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ShirChadash
21st September 2004, 10:47 AM
For context,

Mark 10:1-31
1 Then Yeshua left that place and went into the regions of Y'hudah and the territory beyond the Yarden. Again crowds gathered around him; and again, as usual, he taught them. 2 Some P'rushim came up and tried to trap him by asking him, "Does the Torah permit a man to divorce his wife?" 3 He replied, "What did Moshe command you?" 4 They said, "Moshe allowed a man to hand his wife a get and divorce her." 5 But Yeshua said to them, "He wrote this commandment for you because of your hardheartedness. 6 However, at the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. 7 For this reason, a man should leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, 8 and the two are to become one flesh. Thus they are no longer two, but one. 9 So then, no one should break apart what God has joined together." 10 When they were indoors once more, the talmidim asked him about this. 11 He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against his wife; 12 and if a wife divorces her husband and marries another man, she too commits adultery."

13 People were bringing children to him so that he might touch them, but the talmidim rebuked those people. 14 However, when Yeshua saw it, he became indignant and said to them, "Let the children come to me, don't stop them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 15 Yes! I tell you, whoever does not receive the Kingdom of God like a child will not enter it!" 16 And he took them in his arms, laid his hands on them, and made a b'rakhah over them.

17 As he was starting on his way, a man ran up, kneeled down in front of him and asked, "Good rabbi, what should I do to obtain eternal life?" 18 Yeshua said to him, "Why are you calling me good? No one is good except God! 19 You know the mitzvot -- `Don't murder, don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't give false testimony, don't defraud, honor your father and mother, . .'" 20 "Rabbi," he said, "I have kept all these since I was a boy." 21 Yeshua, looking at him, felt love for him and said to him, "You're missing one thing. Go, sell whatever you own, give to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come, follow me!" 22 Shocked by this word, he went away sad; because he was a wealthy man. 23 Yeshua looked around and said to his talmidim, "How hard it is going to be for people with wealth to enter the Kingdom of God!" 24 The talmidim were astounded at these words; but Yeshua said to them again, "My friends, how hard it is to enter the Kingdom of God! 25 It's easier for a camel to pass through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God." 26 They were utterly amazed and said to him, "Then who can be saved?" 27 Yeshua looked at them and said, "Humanly, it is impossible, but not with God; with God, every thing is possible." 28 Kefa began saying to him, "Look, we have left everything and followed you." 29 Yeshua said, "Yes! I tell you that there is no one who has left house, brothers, sisters, mother, father, children or fields, for my sake and for the sake of the Good News, 30 who will not receive a hundred times over, now, in the `olam hazeh, homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and lands -- with persecutions! -- and in the `olam haba, eternal life. 31 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first!"

Hi, all. Since so many of Yeshua's teachings were in the idiomatic style, I wanted to ask whether this particular teaching (verses 29-31) stem from any other Jewish teachings/Scripture/sayings. If so, would you point me to them so we can study on this more. please? What would be the Jewish understanding here of what Yeshua was saying and meaning?

:) TIA,
~Z~

koilias
21st September 2004, 11:13 AM
29 Yeshua said, "Yes! I tell you that there is no one who has left house, brothers, sisters, mother, father, children or fields, for my sake and for the sake of the Good News, 30 who will not receive a hundred times over, now, in the `olam hazeh, homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and lands -- with persecutions! -- and in the `olam haba, eternal life. 31 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first!"

Hi, all. Since so many of Yeshua's teachings were in the idiomatic style, I wanted to ask whether this particular teaching (verses 29-31) stem from any other Jewish teachings/Scripture/sayings. If so, would you point me to them so we can study on this more. please? What would be the Jewish understanding here of what Yeshua was saying and meaning?

:) TIA,
~Z~

Yes, your honor for your Rabbi was considered more important than your honor for your own father. If your Rabbi and your father were imprisoned, you were supposed to make sure your Rabbi was bailed out first, before your own father! Why? Because your father brought you into the 'olam hazeh, but your Rabbi brings you into the 'olam haba.

This is the spirit of Yeshua's teachings regarding the difference between serving one's earthly family and serving one's family in the World to Come. That is why it was considered more important than anything on earth to sit at the feet of Yeshua, who taught the nation and all people about the Kingdom of G-d.

ShirChadash
21st September 2004, 11:46 AM
WOW... very interesting, Koilias! Thankie for sharing your thoughts, Achi!

Shalom :)

ShirChadash
21st September 2004, 12:17 PM
31 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first!"


HM, my TorahLover hubby asked me if anyone could address this portion in specific. We were discussing this, just now, and this is the part that he personally wants to ask about (he is on the road LOL). Does the above portion in particular have any connection to other specifically Jewish teachings/writings or TaNaCh?

Thanks :)

koilias
21st September 2004, 10:26 PM
HM, my TorahLover hubby asked me if anyone could address this portion in specific. We were discussing this, just now, and this is the part that he personally wants to ask about (he is on the road LOL). Does the above portion in particular have any connection to other specifically Jewish teachings/writings or TaNaCh?

Thanks :)
Hmm...I think I did hear something about this, but I forgot the scriptural reference. It had something to do with a wordplay on "Rosh" (head/first) and "Rash" (a pauper or nobody). It might have been brought up on this forum a while back...