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txchristian04
28th January 2004, 09:19 PM
Hey, I just recently converted to christianity from neo-paganism, and my girlfriend is still a pagan. We're both seniors in high school, and it looks like we're going to the same college, so things are starting to get a little serious between us. How do I go about dealing with the different religions? Aside from that she is perfect for me. btw, forcing her to convert will not work, she would have to do it on her own accord.

cyberwing
28th January 2004, 10:00 PM
txchristian04,
Use the same technique as all Christians are to use; love her, pray for her and let The Holy Spirit change you and make you a better person. Your change and the love you have for others will be a greater testimony to the power of our Jesus than any amount of words....:hug:
~Cyberwing

txchristian04
28th January 2004, 10:10 PM
Isn't praying for her a contradiction of the whole free will thing?

cyberwing
28th January 2004, 10:38 PM
No, we are told to pray for others. It is one of the things Jesus told us to do. What kind of love do I have if I see someone running for a cliff and do nothing? My humble suggestion is, use your time to draw close to Jesus, learn of Him. Let The Holy Spirit draw her heart. Your prayers are not interfering with her free will. She still has the right reject, but YOU have done the right thing. :hug:
~Cyberwing

cyberwing
28th January 2004, 10:39 PM
No, we are told to pray for others. It is one of the things Jesus told us to do. What kind of love do I have if I see someone running for a cliff and do nothing? My humble suggestion is, use your time to draw close to Jesus, learn of Him. Let The Holy Spirit draw her heart. Your prayers are not interfering with her free will. She still has the right reject, but YOU have done the right thing. :hug: It can do her no harm to pray for her to be blessed and pray for wonderful things to happen for her!
~Cyberwing

New Creation
29th January 2004, 06:15 PM
Hi tx Christian, congratulations on coming to Jesus.
I am an ex pagan also; I practiced 10 years and became Christian 1 year ago this week. I still have a friend who is pagan, she was my closest friend for several years but I moved and I now live 3000 miles away; it feels like our values are even further apart than that. I love her very much and I even want her at my wedding this year but she does not have the place in my life she once had. I pray for her a lot. I would suggest you do the same thing for your girlfriend. I would also recommend that you pray to God and ask Him what you should do.

Do you have a church yet? Talking to your pastor might be helpful.

Let me just say that WOW you must really love the LORD!!! Good for you. Can I ask you a personal question? How did you come to know Jesus?

God bless brother!!

theseed
29th January 2004, 09:23 PM
If you are serious about your beliefs and they contradict hers, then it is only a matter of time before that bomb explodes. That is what is known as a compatibility time-bomb, (by marriage and family counselors). The bible tells us not be unequally yoked with unbelievers, it is like to mules that are yoked together and they pull in different directions. Everytime I say this, someone does not want to hear that a Christian should not date a Non-Christian, but it the long run they will run into problems. So take this as you will.


1 Corinthians 6

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial[2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=2COR+6&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on#footnote_854534052_2)] ? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

marc
31st January 2004, 11:24 PM
If you are serious about your beliefs and they contradict hers, then it is only a matter of time before that bomb explodes. That is what is known as a compatibility time-bomb, (by marriage and family counselors). The bible tells us not be unequally yoked with unbelievers, it is like to mules that are yoked together and they pull in different directions. Everytime I say this, someone does not want to hear that a Christian should not date a Non-Christian, but it the long run they will run into problems. So take this as you will.


1 Corinthians 6

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial[2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=2COR+6&language=english&version=NIV&showfn=on&showxref=on#footnote_854534052_2)] ? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?
You are absolutely 100% correct, and please say it everytime you see a believer dating a nonbeliever, it is definitely for there own good.
If anyone disagrees with this, just find a christian married to a nonbeliever and ask them about there difficulties.

Marc

JMRE5150
31st January 2004, 11:32 PM
Pardon my ignorance...but could someone be so kind as to explain what neo-paganism is? I know what Paganism is, but not sure about NEO-Paganism.


Thanks in advance.

marc
31st January 2004, 11:44 PM
Pardon my ignorance...but could someone be so kind as to explain what neo-paganism is? I know what Paganism is, but not sure about NEO-Paganism.


Thanks in advance.
It just like Neo-nazi's. That clears it up right?

I'm not for sure, but I believe it just means modern day followers of whatever Neo is used before.

Marc

txchristian04
1st February 2004, 02:39 AM
Pardon my ignorance...but could someone be so kind as to explain what neo-paganism is? I know what Paganism is, but not sure about NEO-Paganism.


Just about all pagans today are "neo-pagans" meaning they participate in a recreated faith based on older ones, or a completely new one that resembles older religions. Wicca is the most common form of neo-paganism.

As for the whole non-believer compatability, I don't think it will be much of an issue, yes it will be a sore spot though. Her beliefs don't contradict mine, nor are they in any way related to Satan, and if we were to get married and have kids(we're still a long, long way from that) she said she'd want them sent through catholic training anyway.

What I am really worried about is getting her into heaven, she lived a pretty fast paced life which could end at any moment for a number of reasons. So, basically, it's not as much as faith conflict as it is me worrying about her.

marc
1st February 2004, 10:32 PM
Just about all pagans today are "neo-pagans" meaning they participate in a recreated faith based on older ones, or a completely new one that resembles older religions. Wicca is the most common form of neo-paganism.

As for the whole non-believer compatability, I don't think it will be much of an issue, yes it will be a sore spot though. Her beliefs don't contradict mine, nor are they in any way related to Satan, and if we were to get married and have kids(we're still a long, long way from that) she said she'd want them sent through catholic training anyway.

What I am really worried about is getting her into heaven, she lived a pretty fast paced life which could end at any moment for a number of reasons. So, basically, it's not as much as faith conflict as it is me worrying about her.
I was a hard core new ager for 7 years before I came to Jesus. New age and wicca etc is just another example of satan coming as an angel of light. I was there, I used all the "so-called biblical terminology", but denied Jesus.
You have been warned, I know it is not good news, but take it very serious.

Marc

Bonhoffer
2nd February 2004, 08:05 AM
Hey, I just recently converted to christianity from neo-paganism, Thank the Lord :clap: and my girlfriend is still a pagan. We're both seniors in high school, and it looks like we're going to the same college, so things are starting to get a little serious between us. How do I go about dealing with the different religions? Aside from that she is perfect for me. btw, forcing her to convert will not work, she would have to do it on her own accord.

I think you have got the right attitude! Of course you shouldnt force her to convert. If anything pressure only puts people off, and we have to remember that its Jesus who does the converting (conversion of the heart) and not us. In this sense even the likes of Billy Graham have not converted a single soul !

The trick is to be patient and wait. Pray for opportunities to speak to her about it and pray that you will have the right words. One huge advantage you have is the fact that you were a pagan yourself once and so you will know exactly where shes coming from and what buttons to press. She will also be more likely to take notice of you than of someone who has been Christian all there lives. If someone she knows well such as yourself was formerly a pagan and now a Christian then shes more likely to think theres something in this. "why would a pagan become christian?" she will be asking.

You could also point of the dangers of paganism but from the perspective of someone who understands the pagan and not one of ignorance.

Just keeping praying and keep loving her my friend. If its Gods Will it will come.

BTW I dont know if shes into mediumship and talking to dead spirits etc..... but if she is then ask her to do this the next time she is 'talking to the dead'.

Ask the Spirit to say "Jesus is Lord of All" and ask her to wait for an answer. The chances are that the Spirit wont say it or will give a negative response.

Mr.Cheese
2nd February 2004, 12:47 PM
Forcing or pressuring someone to convert usually has disastrous results. You're in a tricky spot. Eventually, this difference is one that will grow and grow to a point beyond reconciliation, even though both of you can't see that right now, or see it very well.
What to do is tricky. Be a good example. See what college brings.

txchristian04
2nd February 2004, 08:49 PM
New age and wicca etc is just another example of satan coming as an angel of light.

Coming from a very theologically intensive pagan path requiring much study, thinking for one's self, etc, I can say very definitively that Satan is in no way involved, if you(or anyone else) wishes to discuss the whole satan thing with me, PM and don't get this debate started in here, there are other forums for it.

Mrs K 2004
2nd February 2004, 09:34 PM
Forcing or pressuring someone to convert usually has disastrous results. You're in a tricky spot. Eventually, this difference is one that will grow and grow to a point beyond reconciliation, even though both of you can't see that right now, or see it very well.
What to do is tricky. Be a good example. See what college brings.
Fabulous advice Mr. Cheese!

When I was in my rebellion phase (which wasn't too extreme; but still enough to be thought of as rebellious!) everytime someone tried to pull me back to God I would stray further! It's annoying and difficult!

When I am around my "non christian" friends, I usually just lead by example! Several of them eventually noticed that I am always more at ease with things than they are, and have asked me why and I explain that I have an amazing relationship with Christ!

Besides that' college usually brings changes in the thought process; and will help you both grow!