Moses & The Torah.

[CatholicSoldier]

Shalom Aleichem. I need some help badly! ASAP!!!!

im rebuking a Muslim tract against Moses and the torah, he is claiming that the torah was never made until 700-800 years after Moses. Now ive heard of multiple Jewish traditions, such as the oral tradition, handing down laws by mouth. I was wondering if you could answer this muslim guys rebuke against the torah:

The torah wasnt penned at least five hundred and as many as seven hundred years after his death.

Could you give me as much evidence as possible, I need dates, environments of why it took so long etc. Ive looked on the net for 2 hours, there nothing solid just hearsay.

THX!!

Can you email me the info at: am_hasefer@hotmailc.om
thx!!! Abrahamic bro! Paul

[simchat_torah]

im rebuking a Muslim tract against Moses and the torah, he is claiming that the torah was never made until 700-800 years after Moses.

While I do intend on coming back and showing evidence contrary to this statement... I first must make the following observation:

There is absolutely no evidence for his case. Therefore, the burden of proof falls upon this particular muslim making this claim. The time frame he lays out is completely random and anyone could have made up any number of centuries in which the Torah was written. It is blazingly obvious he pulled this figure out of the air. Because there is absolutely NO evidence for his case, the burden of proof rests soley upon him.

Shalom,
Yafet.

p.s. I appologize to the MJ community for my lack of involvement over the past week. I've been out of town, working like a dog, and having friends/family staying at our place. Please forgive me for my absence lately.

[simchat_torah]

Quick question Catholic Soldier...

Could you provide the link for this website or where this claim is made?

Just curious.

[Henaynei]

p.s. I appologize to the MJ community for my lack of involvement over the past week. I've been out of town, working like a dog, and having friends/family staying at our place. Please forgive me for my absence lately.Forgiveness requested and given... ;)


(blast!! :( now what am I going to do with all these wet noodles I was going to lash S_T with?? :idea: Noodle Kugel anyone!!) ^_^



There have been several times that I desired your input!! Just about any place I said in a post that some one smarter and more informed would surely have more to offer!! L'hitriot! :wave:

[simchat_torah]

Just about any place I said in a post that some one smarter and more informed would surely have more to offer!!


bah humbug.












I wish I was as smart and as well informed as everyone makes me out to be :rolleyes:

[simchat_torah]

Though I do love Kugel with rasins and cinnamon!

p.p.s. I probably won't be back in full swing till either this coming weekend, or mid week next week. :(
But I'll try to be here a bit more.

[Henaynei]

bah humbug :P

And, now, back to your regularly scheduled topic; Moshe & Torah!!:)

[sojeru]

if it was a moslem that said the such then what he does is contradict his own religion.
His religion says that Moses is the one that gave the Torah, and he had an involvement in writting it. However, if he says otherwise to undermine the bible saying, "The Torah was written after Moses' death" then this moslem is not consistent in their "islamology" and therefore he denounces or speaks against his religion of Islam.
This man has a problem.

And now, for you, the dates are secondary; however, rather insightful.

shalom

[BenTsion]

Sojeru has a good point! Prove it from his own scriptures. Here's what I found when
searching through an electronic Koran:

And when We gave Moses the Book and the distinction that you might walk aright.
Chapter 2:53 (I wish the search engine had told what book within the Koran it comes from, but I guess he won't have trouble locating it)

Now what book was that? It surely wasn't the Koran, since Mohammed wasn't
around to plagiarize scripture yet :D

In Messiah,
Ben Tsion