Inter-denominational discussion [Archive]

PistGurl

30th December 2003, 11:51 AM

If some people are low enough to create an argument with someoone because of their beliefs then they should be banned from posting at all, at least for a short time, as this is a good forum where people can discuss thoughts, ideas, opinions and beliefs, and if that were taken away, I'm sure I and many others would not return, after all, there are many other places in the world and on the web, where people can talk to people with the same beliefs. Anyway, if we didn't know anything of other beliefs, there would be no chance of peace in the world because countries would be permanently segrigated because of their religion, and this is already bad enough.

Konnie

30th December 2003, 12:22 PM

No, you should be able to post anywhere.

cindylou

30th December 2003, 12:47 PM

Discussing and arguing are two different things. How are we ever to really understand one another if we are not "allowed" to discuss our beliefs with others? Perhaps other's have knowledge that we need but are otherwise unable to get without posting "outside" our denomination. As Christian's we should definitely be allowed to discuss our similiarities and differences. However, I do think moderator's could definitely nip some of the rude, offensive and derogatory people in the bud for awhile anyway.
Just my opinion.

faerieevaH

30th December 2003, 09:39 PM

It's difficult, on any board, to get around the arguments that often sprout from discussing religion and/ or politics. On many forums that causes for these topics to be banned. Of course that is not an option here.
One of the things I like is to browse through threads from different denominations, and here different views. Sometimes they challenge, and sometimes they strengthen my own views, and that to me is growing in faith. So a complete separation would be wrong in my idea. There are denomination specific threads/ fora, so those who prefer not to be confronted with ideas they find offensive, could stay there. And people of other denominations who post in those threads, should do so with the utmost respect, being 'guests' there.
I think it might be a good idea to give members that are posting rude or intentional disrespectful comments a time out, and with the possibility of that time out being doubled when it happens in a thread/ forum of another denomination that was specifically intended for that denomination.

d0c markus

31st December 2003, 01:01 AM

When i post in PRE i am generally not interested to hear a catholic response to my post, no offense but catholics and protestants are never going to agree on specific doctrines so there is no use.

I think questions should be addressed in IDD.

Blessed-one

31st December 2003, 07:08 AM

i agree with d0c, otherwise what is the point of the three forums??

Lizzy16

1st January 2004, 07:21 AM

I am not sure.....I actually don't know. I like it the way it is now thouhg, but I am stil not sure

Terri

8th January 2004, 04:23 PM

I believe that each group should have a forum where only they can post and that any interdenominational questions should be addressed in the IDD forum.

I've heard it said that PRE is suppose to be a safe environment to discuss PRE issues, but it never turns out that way. I certainly don't feel safe in there when members from other belief systems come in there to tell me that I don't show enough reverence to Mary for them or that our views can't be right because we have so many denominations, or that Sola Scriptura is wrong and that we need to prove it is correct.

I would just like to have a place where I can say what I believe without being asked to justify them by groups that I know don't believe them, have a right not to believe them, and I don't go into there specific forum and ask them to justify their beliefs.

I would like to feel safe in PRE! :)

Oblio

8th January 2004, 04:37 PM

I would like to feel safe in PRE!

The same could be said for other Congregational forums.

I believe that each group should have a forum where only they can post and that any interdenominational questions should be addressed in the IDD forum.

Is there a Christian denomination anywhere IRL that you cannot enter the congregation as a guest and ask questions ? If you create a <insert denom> only forum, how do you handle it when someone post something that is blatantly untrue about another denomination.

Example:

I'm glad I'm not a Protestant because they believe that all they have to do to be saved is say the sinners prayer and go on sinning because the Blood of Jesus has saved them from hell.

seebs

8th January 2004, 04:39 PM

Actually, some of that problem may be inherent in rejecting the more orthodox churches (the Orthodox and Catholic branches); without that authority, we may or may not have full agreement on things. For instance, I am assured that my group is probably sort of Protestant, and we're certainly not Catholic, but we also reject sola scriptura. (Not looking for a debate here, thanks.) Other Protestants may disagree on other doctrines, such as the nature or importance of baptism, or whatever... And in the absence of a single recognized hermeneutic authority, there's no easy way to just say "well, this is what we officially believe, even though some Protestants have trouble with it".

Oblio

8th January 2004, 04:46 PM

One could always join a board that bans anyone that does not tow their theological line.

Terri

8th January 2004, 05:02 PM

I really didn't post my response only to get into a debate and told how wrong I am for what I believe about this poll question! :rolleyes:

It reminds me of PRE!! :D

d0c markus

8th January 2004, 05:53 PM

haha.. did the mods ever do anything in response to the thread "shoo fly dont bother me" in the suggestion room

Oblio

8th January 2004, 06:02 PM

I really didn't post my response only to get into a debate and told how wrong I am for what I believe about this poll question! :rolleyes:

It reminds me of PRE!! :D

This is a Discussion forum :)

~Wisdom Seeker~

8th January 2004, 09:11 PM

Someone early in this thread said that "it's human nature" as an excuse for people not doing better to try to get along. And when I read it there was a definate tone of "That's how it is, and there's nothing we can do about it" Which I have to disagree with. Nope. I think if a person can have manners at the grocery store or at school, they sure can have manners here.

The very nature of a good discussion isn't about always seeing eye to eye and agreeing about every doctrinal or other issue. To have a valuable adult conversation, you have to have varrying opinions.

I think when we start locking doors, we start closing off the opportunity to learn things outside of our own experience. And if nothing else, the inter-net should open things up, not shut us off.

The thing I like about C.F. is it isn't like some of the other overly strict rule oriented Christian sites that seem to opporate more like the old time KGB then a Christian discussion board.

If C.F. starts being like a police state...I'm out of here. Thank you Erwin...for making this about the best Christian discussion board on the English speaking Net. There's a reason why there are so many active members. ;)

Terri

8th January 2004, 10:24 PM

The same could be said for other Congregational forums.

Not really, I do not desire to feel safe in the other congregational forums, only my own. ;) Of course changing the rules would make everyone safer in their own forums.

]Is there a Christian denomination anywhere IRL that you cannot enter the congregation as a guest and ask questions ? If you create a <insert denom> only forum, how do you handle it when someone post something that is blatantly untrue about another denomination.

Well, I don't really have a problem with people posting something that they believe to be true even if it isn't. I don't feel a need to always correct people and to always be right. But, if you have that problem I believe you should report the post and if it breaks a rule it will be delt with by the staff.

I've seen much worse than your example and have not felt the need to personally assault the people for saying it because my beliefs do not hinge on what other people think of them.

Why isn't IDD sufficient for asking question? :)

I'm not the type to pick up and leave just because a rule is changed here or there or isn't changed to suit me. ;) And I certainly wouldn't see CF as a police state if the rules were changed Wisdom. ;)

Terri

8th January 2004, 10:27 PM

One could always join a board that bans anyone that does not tow their theological line.

Now that was ugly! Do you know of another board where I would perhaps fit in better! ;)

Terri

8th January 2004, 10:29 PM

haha.. did the mods ever do anything in response to the thread "shoo fly dont bother me" in the suggestion room

Well the thread was locked, so what the results of it were I don't know. I don't think anyone ever said.

Terri

8th January 2004, 10:31 PM

This is a Discussion forum :)

And I thought it was a poll forum! Silly me!! :D

~Wisdom Seeker~

9th January 2004, 12:31 AM

I'm not the type to pick up and leave just because a rule is changed here or there or isn't changed to suit me. And I certainly wouldn't see CF as a police state if the rules were changed Wisdom. I was so busy reading all your posts that it caught me by surprise to see my name at the end of one of them. :D

Well Terri, I used to say that too. Believe me...some things I'll put up with. For instance...I don't leave when someone is overly aggresive, mean spirited or condescending, Those things are basically just bad manners or bad temperment. They're individual. I deal with them and then move on. Like water off a ducks back.

But, when the whole dynamic changes in a place...that's a little different.

I only joined C.F. because it was more member friendly than the harsher "ban happy" Christian sites I've personally been a part of.

Well Terri, that was fun. I've never been challenged by you before. You've got grit girl.

Wisdom Seeker

kwimmer

9th January 2004, 12:34 AM

No, you should be able to post anywhere.

Terri

9th January 2004, 01:12 AM

Well Terri, that was fun. I've never been challenged by you before. You've got grit girl.

Wisdom Seeker

:D

I wasn't challenging you Wisdom. I know better than that! :D

Of course, I do know best since I do post in the forum that I was talking about and I've never seen you post in there! ;) :D :hug:

~Wisdom Seeker~

9th January 2004, 08:36 PM

I wasn't challenging you Wisdom. I know better than that!
Oh, sarcasm. :rolleyes:
CHALLENGE:
NOUN:
1. An act of taunting another. Dare.
2. Behavior or an act that is intentionally provocative in defiance.
3. The act of expressing strong or reasoned opposition, protestation, remonstration.
VERB:
1. To take a stand against: buck, contest, dispute, oppose, resist, traverse.
2. defy.
3. To confront boldly, taunting.
Idioms: fly in the face of, snap one's fingers at, stand up to, thumb one's nose at.
4. To express opposition, often by argument

Of course, I do know best since I do post in the forum that I was talking about and I've never seen you post in there! Oh brother. :rolleyes:

I have posted in there.

Sorry to go :topic:

Terri

9th January 2004, 10:04 PM

:eek: Well Wisdom, I thought you knew me better than that! :sorry:

I won't tease you again! :hug:

Room4all

10th January 2004, 07:34 AM

We need to promote understanding! Each denom is apart of the body of Christ.

Your feet cant go anywhere if the legs dont participate!

Snowy

11th January 2004, 10:06 PM

all Christians need to come together!

Oblio

11th January 2004, 10:19 PM

And I thought it was a poll forum! Silly me!!

When I posted in was in IDD

Oblio

11th January 2004, 10:29 PM

Now that was ugly! Do you know of another board where I would perhaps fit in better! ;)

I was speaking of this quote

I believe that each group should have a forum where only they can post

If you want a members only forum, there are boards who will ban Catholics and Orthodox in a heartbeat. I am sure you know where they are.

Oblio

11th January 2004, 10:38 PM

But, if you have that problem I believe you should report the post and if it breaks a rule it will be delt with by the staff.

The problem is, that there is no rule against lying, misrepresenting anothers faith and erecting strawmen unchallenged. Even if there were, it would be inpossible to enforce, especially if the statements were made against any faith that has no well defined beliefs or beliefs that tend to vary.

Terri

12th January 2004, 12:49 AM

When I posted in was in IDD

Well, you posted after I did in this thread, and at the time I posted it was here in the poll section. So I don't believe what you are saying is true. :)

I do not believe this thread is now, nor ever has been in IDD! ;)

Terri

12th January 2004, 12:56 AM

I was speaking of this quote

If you want a members only forum, there are boards who will ban Catholics and Orthodox in a heartbeat. I am sure you know where they are.

Obviously I was speaking of a forum within this board where I could have a conversation about doctrine without it turning into a debate with catholics or orthodox. It was in reply to the poll question. Obviously the poll wasn't asking about other boards out there on the internet. :)

And, obviously if I wanted to belong to another board, I would. :)

And you are wrong, if you are sure that I know where boards are that would ban catholics and orthodox in a heartbeat. :sigh:

Terri

12th January 2004, 01:04 AM

The problem is, that there is no rule against lying, misrepresenting anothers faith and erecting strawmen unchallenged. Even if there were, it would be inpossible to enforce, especially if the statements were made against any faith that has no well defined beliefs or beliefs that tend to vary.

Well, if there are things that don't break the rules I would suggest that you just learn to deal with it.

I don't go into the catholic nor the orthodox forums to correct the people there when I see things I believe to be a lie, or a misrepresentation of my faith. And I can say I don't believe it to be necessary. People have a right to their view even if you don't like them and know they are wrong! :)

Oblio

12th January 2004, 01:18 AM

People have a right to their view even if you don't like them and know they are wrong!

Since you can't be talking about me not liking someone (as you don't know my heart), I must assume you are saying you don't like Orthodox/Catholics.

I do need to apologize to you, I presumed that you came from an anti-Apostolic board, forgive my mistake.

Terri

12th January 2004, 02:20 AM

Since you can't be talking about me not liking someone (as you don't know my heart), I must assume you are saying you don't like Orthodox/Catholics.

I do need to apologize to you, I presumed that you came from an anti-Apostolic board, forgive my mistake.

People have a right to their view even if you don't like them and know they are wrong!

In the above sentence "don't like them" goes with the word "view" not with the word "People" if you diagram the sentence! ;)

So I was saying People have a right to their view even if you don't like them(their view) and know they(their view) are wrong!

But, since you are free to have your own view, feel free to believe that I don't like anyone you want! :D Of course, you don't know my heart either! ;)

And, I didn't come from any other board. This is the first board I ever joined! ;)

Terri

12th January 2004, 01:03 PM

I do need to apologize to you, I presumed that you came from an anti-Apostolic board, forgive my mistake.

I don't even know what anti-Apostolic means. Do you mean by anti-Apostolic boards, boards where people believe something other than what you believe. :sigh:

See that is another difference between us. I am sure there are boards where people from the orthodox or catholic persuasion can discuss what they believe and they won't tolerate others with different beliefs on their boards for the sake of peace. I have no problem with that. And, it would never occur to me to call them anti-protestant. Again I believe that everyone has a right to their own view, and they are free to discuss it anywhere they want without being accused of anti-something or other just because someone else doesn't believe what they do. :)

And as I said I didn't come from another board. My attitude toward people that call be anti-this or anti-that just because my beliefs are different from theirs and I dare to state them, or people that say I don't have the "fullness of the faith", or people that call me heretic because I don't believe what they do, or people that call me ignorant because I don't believe what they do, or people that say my Lord's Supper isn't real because I don't belong to their church and yes people that won't let me express my opinion on a poll without being accused of things: It's these people on THIS board that have formed my attitude. ;)

But, my attitude about what these people say about me does not mean that I don't like the people. I think they are overly aggressive and do more harm than good, but I still respect their right to have the beliefs they do even if I disagree with them--or I wouldn't be here. I just wish the accusing and name-calling would cease and people would stop being so aggressive.

I however have my doubts that it will stop and thus my belief that a forum on this board where I could discuss my beliefs without these accusations I noted above would be great. Don't worry, I have little belief that it will actually happen. ;)

GodlyWarrior

12th January 2004, 01:35 PM

2 Timothy 3:16
16.All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

How can we accomplish this with our brothers and sisters in Christ if not allowed to post outside out denominations. I fear the world would be a cold place if all Christians thought along these lines of keeping doctrinal differences on a back burner somewhere.

SolomonVII

12th January 2004, 03:13 PM

As I see it, Cf seems to be well planned. There are forums that are specific to particular denominations, or to Christians in general, in which members to the specific congregation or belief system are free to discuss their ideas with other like-minded people.I find this type of segregation useful, because it save the threads from being bogged down by input of people who are outside of the belief system, which is often not of any real interest for some topics. For example, there are times when I am not really intested in hearing about why someone doesn't believe, but am more intested in finding out why they do believe, or what they believe in.
And there are many other free forums where we all can post and discuss, argue, or harangue on virtually any topic to our hearts content.

There are rules posted for any particular forum, and there are moderators there to ensure that things are being posted into the appropriate forum. I do notice that some threads get moved, although it would be nice to be let know where they are getting moved to. As well, although I have never really felt the need to use it, I have noticed there is a report button. I presume one of the reasons for this is to let the moderators know when the rules, as you perceive them, are being violated.

CF works best for me when people show at least some respect for the rules. Before I post, I like to have at least a rough idea of what kind of discussion I am getting myself into.

Glorianna

30th March 2004, 06:07 PM

We should be united together as believers so we should be able to post anywhere! It's valuable to hear people from other denominations' opinions on things.

mle

21st April 2004, 07:29 PM

Members should be able to post everywhere respecting what other peoples views are. As Christians we should be kind and thoughtful to others.

Big C

22nd April 2004, 09:04 PM

"I exhort you brethren, by the name of JESUS, that you all agree, and there be no divisions among you, but you be made complete in the same mind amd in the same judgement...Has Christ been divided?" (Paul in First Corinthians)
Denominations suck in my opinion! Why is it that you can open a phone book and find 4 pages of separated faith denominations? "I'm a baptist...I'm a penticostal..I'm a methodist" We're like a bunch of gangbangers claiming sets! We tell the world that Christ is the ONLY way to salvation, yet we have mulitudes of seperated denominations within a faith which is supposed to believe in "1 GOD, 1 FAITH, 1 BAPTISM"... Huuuum.

SolomonVII

22nd April 2004, 09:36 PM

Bulldog

22nd April 2004, 09:44 PM

Keep it how it is, whatever option that is.

Victrixa

22nd April 2004, 11:14 PM

I believe that we should be able to post anywhere.

I think that, as Christians, we must learn to communicate with each other. I think most of the time, that Christians fight with each other because they don't know how to really communicate their beliefs and feelings.

I believe that we must learn to share our beliefs with one another with the greatest respect for one another. Christians must learn to be loving with one another.

I am fully convinced of my faith but I have much to learn from Christians from other faiths than mine. I have learned a lot already and have been tremendously blessed and for that I am grateful! God brings His blessings to all Christians everywhere!

I look at the world and see how it is lost without Christ. My heart breaks continuously over this. We really need to unite in Christ! Jesus is the One Who unites us and we must bring Him, His wonderful love and Gospel to the lost world so that as many as possible will come to know Him. This is my greatest concern... the salvation of the world.

God bless everyone here!!!! :hug:

Caroline

jeshohaia

22nd April 2004, 11:35 PM

I have had questions of differing faiths and how would I be able to ask them of those faiths to answer?

ridesawhitehorse

27th April 2004, 08:38 PM

Free discussion should be preserved... but if some posters are simply a trouble-makers, they should be shown the door to the proper forum for that discussion.

ridesawhitehorse

27th April 2004, 08:40 PM

..... and I am never afraid to listen to a different persons viewpoint, regardless of what kind of church they are from.

kerux

30th April 2004, 07:42 PM

I believe that all Christians are part of God's family, no matter what denomination we are.

Angeldove97

1st May 2004, 04:11 PM

We are all Brothers and Sisters under Christ. Jesus NEVER wanted us to have our own denominations and to decide that we should not be able to share our opinions and words with fellow Christians based on a few simple differences is against what I have in my heart. I attend every kind of denominational Christian church there is because I see each one as worshipping the Lord. I really don't believe that the little things, like how to pray, or babtizing or Bible translations, really matter to our Lord. Jesus taught us to love one another...even to love our enemies. If we are to love our enemies, how much more love must we show to those who follow Jehovah??? I'm happy that I can share my words with my people regardless of what they label themselves. Jesus has taught me to love and that is what I want to spread here. Love.

rubberduckie

25th May 2004, 07:54 PM

Agreed AngelDove. He prayed for us, that we would be one through him and through his Father. "Te church is one foundation....."

TheMainException

16th June 2004, 03:27 PM

I think that there should be some places for certain denominations to speak openly without other denominations to butt in and start saying that something they believe is wrong. If someone wants to have a discussion about it, go to an open denomination forum.

PaladinGirl

28th June 2004, 07:18 PM

No, I definitely don't think we should be banned from posting outside of our denomination. I like to go to the other denomination's forums and learn more about what they believe. However, I do feel like it'd be nice to have some more specific debate forums.

CZzyzx41

29th June 2004, 10:12 AM

While I think that each denomination or religion should have it's own place to go so they can fellowship with those who believe as they do, I think everyone should be allowed to post in these "all members" sections. While some conversations get out of hand, I think that general debate and conversation is healthy.

Telrunya

1st July 2004, 05:39 PM

I think it's a great thing to able able to talk to denominational Christians of every walk.

Texas Lynn

2nd July 2004, 01:12 AM

Doctrinal debate is possible in a civil manner. Failure to act civilly should be addressed on an individual basis.

Grace_of_God

5th July 2004, 06:59 PM

I picked "only in specific denomination forums". This site does exist to provide fellowship so we should be able to post pretty much anywhere in order to speak with one another. However those specific denomination forums are necessary I think, because there really aren't any safe havens from everyone and we do need places where we can talk to others who share the same beliefs, with out worrying about being attacked by "outsiders" (I can't think of a better word...). However, making the entire website for only one denomination here and only one there, that is going to take away from the purpose of creating unity among us.

Teacher

6th July 2004, 11:33 AM

I don't have any frustration when it comes to discussing Christian subjects among sisters and brothers of other denominations. What frustrates me is a Christian forum which is composed primarily of non-Christians. I'm glad I found this one.

Moros

6th October 2004, 06:28 AM

No, I think the non-debates outside of your own denomination forums work fine.

Neal

8th October 2004, 03:27 PM

We ought to post wisely... like, sure, we should be able to post anywhere, but you can't post with malicious intent at the start. Maybe curiosity in the beginning, and then you can bring evidence against what they're saying or for what you're saying. Just remain objective and calm about it.

jcright

22nd November 2004, 06:53 PM

I think you shoudl be able to post anywhere...how else are you going to learn?

faith renewal

22nd November 2004, 07:14 PM

Yes, we should definitely be allowed to post anywhere. It's important to be able to have discussions about our differences, although they should be kept respectful.

kissybug27

23rd November 2004, 02:05 PM

We should respect each other. I really don't think God wants us to argue over Him anyway. If we have differences of beliefs then we should share them with each other and then agree to disagree but never argue over them.

Caprice

23rd November 2004, 07:43 PM

A house divided cannot stand.
(Not sure if this has been posted before hehe)

chosen_boss

23rd November 2004, 08:33 PM

Our world is segragated enough, why do the same thing on a christian website? If a forum is specified for one denomination or the other, that is different. But not letting anyone post out of their own little corner of the church is going overboard

draconus71

23rd November 2004, 09:12 PM

We are all supposed to be universal anyone all together anyways doesnt matter what denomination you are as long as you believe in God

mrguitarporsche5

24th November 2004, 08:53 PM

I think we should just post anywhere we want as long as we don't bash other people beacause of their beliefs

okiemommy26

25th November 2004, 01:02 AM

only in denomation forums

draconus71

27th November 2004, 05:53 PM

ascribe2thelord

28th November 2004, 12:20 AM

Jesus taught that religion should be universal meaning include everyone under one religion. I believe we should not be segregated from each other I believe we should be under one religion one church and one God the father.
Now, if we could only have that religion be true to what God says in His Word ... now that would be awesome.;)

GodFlute2

29th November 2004, 10:06 PM

It really depends on what they're posting. If they're giving advise, I say don't stop them. If they're completely puting down that denomination yeah, go ahead & ban them.

indeep

30th November 2004, 03:58 AM

Well... I think you should be able to post where ever you want to (within reason)... for instance, while I identify myself as being a Christian/Non-denominational, I attend a lutheran church, and I also have interests in the charismatic movement, and I like to browse these kinds of forums, even though I don't always post in them. I respect the beliefs of the residents publically anyway :D and keep my nose out of things I disagree with, on their turf anyway. :)

newyorknewyork

7th April 2006, 07:10 AM

wats a sticky?

handmaiden97

7th April 2006, 05:01 PM

I think we as bleiver aought ot be able to discuss differences and value similariteis. no one denomination has all the answers so we need to be able to hear and understand differign view points.

I know peoples opinions differ, but we are all stil one family in Christ

SpiritualPilgrim

7th April 2006, 05:13 PM

For my two cents worth, I would say that we should be allowed to post anywhere.

I admit that flaming on others either cross-denominationally or within one's own denomination just isn't right, but thought provoking discussion is a good thing. I know that I can sometimes ask some very tough questions that could make people feel as though I'm questioning their faith, but it's not meant to be in a negative fashion. Even when I don't agree with someone's stance on something, I don't question in order to argue, but rather to find out what the thinking is behind someone's belief, so that I can further grow through trying to see something through someone else's eyes.