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secretdawn
24th December 2003, 02:06 PM
Someone posted something here that said Jesus rose from Hell. Is this true? I would appreciate a quick response, as I don't have access to this computer later today or tomorrow and it pains me to think this...

Bonhoffer
24th December 2003, 02:51 PM
I doubt it very much for several reasons.

1: according to traditional Christianity no one can leave Hell once they have been there. (eternal damnation etc...)

2: Jesus was perfect and free from Sin. Only a sinner can go to Hell.

Lyle
24th December 2003, 03:55 PM
There is the belief, I've heard good arguements for it though I cannot remember them as of this moment, they believe Jesus descended to hell and brought those who were there out.. this would be Upper Sheol, or Paradise.. But thinking, in order to overcome something, you have to enter into it....

cyberwing
24th December 2003, 05:21 PM
Dear Secret Dawn,
You will want to study His Word for yourself on all of this, take no man's word for it, always use God's Word as your guide.
I can share my personal understanding after studying for many years. I found it vitally important to understand the Hebrew viewpoint, this to me opened my eyes to many truths that were hidden. Hell was divided. There was a place called by some 'Purgatory', in the Bible it is referred to as 'Abrahams Bosom' this was not in heaven, but neither is it in the place of eternal damnation called Hell. This is the place God's Children's spirits were sent before Jesus came into the world to become their perfect sacrifice. Abraham and all those that followed him awaited their Redeemer whom God had promised to them. The old testament is filled with their anticipation of Jesus!

Do you remember the story of the rich man and the beggar? The rich man walked by the beggar day after day ignoring his pleas. When they both died, the beggar went to Abrahams Bosom and the rich man went to hell. The rich man pleaded with God to send the beggar with water to quench his thirst and then he pleaded that the beggar would be sent back to warn his brothers of the horrors of hell that awaited them. The rich man was told his brothers had the Prophets and the Word, what else could be done to show them the Truth?
Okay, this story talks about that separation. So there is a place that can be viewed from Hell that souls rested in limbo waiting for Jesus. When Jesus came and became the PERFECT sacrifice for our sins, His precious blood was shed and He died. During the three days he was in the tomb, during this time Jesus went and set the captives free who awaited His coming in this 'place' whatever you wish to term it that could be seen from Hell. Jesus released all the saints of old (their spirits anyway) allowing them to join The Father in Heaven. (Their physical bodies still rest in the dust of the earth awaiting the resurrection of the saints.) All this makes perfect sense to me after understanding the Hebrew. This truth is repeated if you understand the Hebrew letter for God's name, which is formed by the topography of Israel! Jesus took the keys of death, hell and the grave away from satan! HE became victorious over ALL!!! So yes, Jesus did descend into hell and on the third day rose again! However the terminology may be the stumbling point here, for the word hell. Since Jesus is the Son of God I believe if He so desired to go into Hell He could!!! Jesus appeared there to show satan he was defeated!!! I think what He did was defeat satan's hold on those who had no perfect sacrifice for their sin until HE shed His blood.
So now the spirits of Abraham, David, Isaiah, all of the saints of old are with Jesus and Father God in Heaven. Awaiting the next step in God's perfect plan. Because we live in the age of Grace, after Jesus' death and sacrifice, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord!!! We don't have to wait for our Redeemer, HE has already paid the price so we get to go immediately to Him!
Secret Dawn, I hope I have helped. I did not understand this for so many years like you the terminology had me concerned. So I understand how you feel. I hope I have helped you understand just how incredible our Jesus is!!! Be blessed dear one and if you have more questions feel free to PM me anytime!
:hug: ~Cyberwing

futureyouthpastor85
25th December 2003, 04:15 AM
According to Christian doctrine, the only way that our sins were forgiven because of His death and resurection. When the sins of the world were put on him (as he was the ultamate sacrifice), God could look no more (this is Biblical - four gospels). Such, with the death of all of our sins, He went to hell. The only thing is (and this is how we can be forgiven), he conquered hell and the grace (due to the fact that He was indeed none other than God in the flesh) - this again is talked about by Paul in one of his epistles.

Youll have to study, but the only way the story of grace works is for Jesus to have died and gone to hell for our sins.

seangoh
25th December 2003, 10:24 AM
Someone posted something here that said Jesus rose from Hell. Is this true? I would appreciate a quick response, as I don't have access to this computer later today or tomorrow and it pains me to think this...
I haven't look at that thread you were talking about but i think you are referring to 1 Peter 3:18-20

"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."
There has been considerable misunderstanding of these verses of Scripture. It has been preached that Christ actually descended into the lower regions of the earth and preached to lost souls who were in prison in some type of purgatory or limbo. This is very far from what the text actually says. Let' s look at it closely now and get the real message of these verses. It says, "Christ also hath once suffered for sins ... that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached."

First of all, notice how Christ preached to those spirits in prison. He did it by the Spirit, and that word is capitalised in your Bible. It actually refers to the Holy Spirit. So whatsoever Christ did in preaching during this period of time, He did it through or by the Holy Spirit.

With that in view, let's ask this: "When was the preaching done?" The answer is plainly given in verse 20: "when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing." So the preaching was actually done while the ark was being built--during the preaching of Noah to that antediluvian world. Now, one more question: "To whom was the preaching done?" The text says here "unto the spirits in prison." Throughout the Bible we find this terminology used in describing those who are bound in the prison house of sin. David prayed, "Bring my soul out of prison." Psalm 142:7. Paul spoke of his experience in these words, "bringing me into captivity to the law of sin." What Peter is telling us here is simply that Christ, through the Holy Spirit, was present while Noah preached; Christ was there through the Holy Spirit to speak conviction to their hearts and appeal to them to come into the ark. There is absolutely nothing in this text to indicate that Jesus left His body during the time He was dead to go to any subterranean place to minister to wicked spirits. The three questions are clearly answered in the text itself: (1) that He preached by the Holy Spirit, (2) He did it while the ark was preparing, and (3) He did it to the spirits in prison, or to those individuals whose sinful lives were bound in the prison house of sin.