The Open Cafe - a thread for everyone to post in.

[Erwin]

The Open Cafe Thread

This is the only thread in this forum where non-Christians can post in. :)

It's a place for non-Christians to fellowship with Liberal Christians. There shall be no debate or discussion in here - please reserve this thread purely for fellowship.

This Cafe is not a permanent thread - at this stage it's being beta-tested. Let's see how things go. :)

Enjoy - may the love of Christ be with you.

[Toney]

Enjoy - may the love of Christ be with you.

And may the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be upon us all.


A very special welcome to People of the Book from Liberal Churches. We are happy you are here.

[Polycarp1]

This is a classic example of Erwin's great Christian compassion and willingness to go to extremes to accommodate all who use CF. And for that, great thanks. I'm PM-ing the thread location to Loki, who was one of the folks who most wanted this sort of thing, and whose integrity in refusing to claim a belief not present deserves honor.

[Loki]

Thank you :)

[Loki]

*puts a pot of water on the stove for tea* Any requests? If not, it's earl grey. And it's lovely to visit your forum. I feel like I do when I visit a church in town, but less awkward and shy.

And thanks again Erwin; I really appreciate this, and promise to use it well and vacuum and dust at least once a week. Would you like tea, or do you take coffee? I'm not great at making coffee, but i can try.

[nyj]

Would you like tea, or do you take coffee? I'm not great at making coffee, but i can try. That's what they have coffee machines for. Making tea however, is an art. :)

[seebs]

... And, of course, there's free ice cream.

[Buttermilk]

Oooh Tea and chocolate cake for me please.

Welcome to our humble abode Loki :D

[Loki]

I'm pretty good at tea making, if I do say so.

So.... anything do/see anything neat lately? I tried the 50+ yr old wheat wine thta's been in my grandparents' cellar for the pst 50+ years. It was surprisingly good. Really smooth and mellow, and not the least bit turpentine-y, like it smelled.

[Im_A]

just wanted to say welcome to any non-Christians in here :) i just recently noticed this thread put up, and greatly pleased with it :)

Waves to Loki, another fellow mid-westerner! haha. welcome :)

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[Loki]

I'm a midwesterner indeed. Seebs is, too, if MN counts as midwest. It does, right? And what does that mean, midwest? We're not really in the middle of the west. We're not west of the middle. And I mean, Michigan... we're almost like our own domain. Michigan's not on the way to anywhere, so anyone in michigan has a reason to be here.

[praying]

The Open Cafe Thread

This is the only thread in this forum where non-Christians can post in. :)

It's a place for non-Christians to fellowship with Liberal Christians. There shall be no debate or discussion in here - please reserve this thread purely for fellowship.

This Cafe is not a permanent thread - at this stage it's being beta-tested. Let's see how things go. :)

Enjoy - may the love of Christ be with you.

Thanks Erwin you are the best!!

[PaladinValer]

**bakes some low carb cinnamin-raisen bread and offers butter, honey, and many gams and gellies as spreads**

[CaDan]

I'm a midwesterner indeed. Seebs is, too, if MN counts as midwest. It does, right? And what does that mean, midwest? We're not really in the middle of the west. We're not west of the middle. And I mean, Michigan... we're almost like our own domain. Michigan's not on the way to anywhere, so anyone in michigan has a reason to be here.

Me three. Lovely Saint Paul, Minnesota.

[Buttermilk]

Wheat Wine??? What is that?

[GreenPartyVoter]

Thanks, Erwin! You rock! :)

[Loki]

Wheat wine is bootleg liquor, moonshine... fermented wine that poor farmers make to make life more amusing. I'm not sure exactly what they do to it, but it's... alcoholic, and they don't call it beer... And it's remarkably good!

[Im_A]

I'm a midwesterner indeed. Seebs is, too, if MN counts as midwest. It does, right? And what does that mean, midwest? We're not really in the middle of the west. We're not west of the middle. And I mean, Michigan... we're almost like our own domain. Michigan's not on the way to anywhere, so anyone in michigan has a reason to be here.
true i agree with you there. i'm from ohio, so, i was just saying "midwesterners" due to the classification this areas gets as the "midwest." but it's all good. :)
Joe
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[September]

Hey, just noticed the new Cafe... this is great! Thanks Erwin!

[McCravey]

Good morning to all. Interesting SS lesson yesterday on how to endure/overcome trials and tribulations. very good lesson. Next week my wife and I are going to attend a Friends meeting near us (thanks Seebs).....looking forward to it. Not quite sure where to settle....in sort of a "anti-organized" mood lately....just staying put until the right door opens.

[wildernesse]

I haven't been in an ice cream mood recently--how about some lime sherbert? MMMmm.

McCravey, what was the text for your SS lesson? What do you mean by anti-organized? I'm feeling what I call "semi-detached", so maybe it's sort of the same thing. (Of course, I also like the oddness of the phrase.)

[CaDan]

I haven't been in an ice cream mood recently--how about some lime sherbert? MMMmm.


You. Are. So. OUT OF THE! CLUB!

And there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth!
Wail! Wail!
Gnash! Gnash!


Just kidding. :)

We are very ecumenical about our frozen confections.

current music: The Waterboys - This Is the Sea

[Talmidah]

just wanted to say welcome to any non-Christians in here i just recently noticed this thread put up, and greatly pleased with it

:wave:
Thank you, Joe. And thank you also for the kind words in your PM

[Loki]

My dentist says I can't gnash my teeth cause they're already pretty flat. I attribute it to eating lots of veggies and grinding them down on hard plant stuffs, rather than chewing on animal flesh. My boyfriend just got the wisdom teeth out, so I could gnash his teeth...

[Im_A]

:wave:
Thank you, Joe. And thank you also for the kind words in your PM
your very welcome talmidah :thumbsup:

May God Bless you <><

[September]

The Cafe is pretty quiet today. ;)

*puts on the kettle to make tea... wonders what kind of ice cream we have today*

[Loki]

Oh, yum! Tea. What type?

I picked up a pint of French Silk ice cream from the local dairy.... *plops half in a bowl for September*

Anyone have any funny anecdotes? Or just anecdotes?

I took my doggie to Lake Superior this summer. She's not seen water beyond the bath tub, but she's a great outdoors dog, so I figured she wouldn't mind. We walked along the beach, and she barked at the gulls and got sand up her nose and got her paws wet in the little waves the lap up on the beach. Well, I waded in a little bit, and encouraged her to follow me. Next thing I know, the dog is up to her chin in the lake, wiht only her head and the tip of her tail sticking out, and has a pathetic, injured look, as if to say "What did you just do to me?!" She bounded out, and ran around on the beach, and if I approached the water again (I never pulled on the leash or anything), she'd just lie down on the beach, facing me, as if to say "Uh uh. That water's too cold, and I don't trust you anymore." She's a lovely dog... 50lbs, black, looks like a border collie, but she's a mutt, and very friendly, but... well, i guess I could see how Lake superior isn't the greatest introduction to swimming for anyone, human or canine.

[UberLutheran]

That's what they have coffee machines for. Making tea however, is an art. :)

I thought it was just assumed that everybody knew that real coffee was made using either a drip pot or using the extraction method!

Seebs, elanor, mhatten -- grab the smelling salts, please: I feel a touch of the vapors coming on... :prayer:

[UberLutheran]

This is an idea whose time has come: the first OPEN CAFE HIGH TEA!

Tea will be this Friday at 3 pm CDT.

I shall bring coffee, cream, sugar, two types of frittata, and clotted cream.

Seebs, loki, September, tattedsaint, talmidah, CaDan, McCravey, GreenPartyVoter, Buttermilk, seebs, Polycarp1, nyj, toney, Erwin -- what shall I put you down as bringing?

[praying]

What is clotted cream? It doesn't sound good.

[Toney]

Brilliant idea!

I shall bring Yorkshire tea and fresh scones for the clotted cream (Cornish, I assume). We'll need strawberry jam for a proper cream tea.

Talmidah has lovely new dishes we might borrow that were recently Mikvehed in the Pacific.

Like the Mad Hatter, I will be late (4 MDT).

[Toney]

What is clotted cream? It doesn't sound good.

It's to die for.

Gotta have a good cow that gives high butter fat! You cook it, according to an old Phoenician recipe that was exported to the Isles in ancient times. Good clotted cream is found only in the West Country -- Cornwall and Devonshire. The Cornish clotted cream is better by far!

[CaDan]

Seebs, loki, September, tattedsaint, talmidah, CaDan, McCravey, GreenPartyVoter, Buttermilk, seebs, Polycarp1, nyj, toney, Erwin -- what shall I put you down as bringing?

Hmm . . . what would I bring . . . ?

Well, since this is a "Church" forum, after all, it would have to be that cheap ice cream that comes in industrial size tubs. Vanilla only. Church ice cream.

Who's bringing Church Cookies? You know, those copies of Oreos that show up at every potluck in the church basement. The ones I will associate my entire life with the phrase, "This is most certainly true!"

What am I thinking? This is LIBERAL churches!

I'm bringin' . . . .

spumoni!

current music: Lou Reed & John Cale - Images

[CaDan]

What is clotted cream? It doesn't sound good.

It is like cream cheese, but softer and better. I know, the name sounds pretty bad. You have to eat it by mistake the first time and then have someone tell you you just ate clotted cream.

current music: Bruce Springsteen - Jungleland

[Annabel Lee]

Wow!

I'm posting in the CO section again.

Hi everybody :wave:

[CaDan]

Wow!

I'm posting in the CO section again.

Hi everybody :wave:

Uh oh. Trouble. :)

current music: Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train (Ai-ai-ai-ai!!!)

[Loki]

I just finished listening to Jungleland.

I can bring lots of Earl Grey, and I've got about a dozen other teas, including decaffeinated teas. Jasmine, Vanilla Almond, Green, some German fruit tea (literal translation of the name), peach, peppermint, chamomile (but I'll pass on this unless we wanna take naps), plain black tea, raspberry zinger...

I only have soy milk in my fridge, so if someone wants cow milk in their tea, please bring it. Also, if someone has a lemon, that'd be grand.

It's nice to see you 'round, Annabel :)

I've got some rice cakes, too. I'll bring those and a thing of honey.

[Loki]

Wish I could post in your thread about bible background music, mostly because Toney's post there is great. I read in complete silence, though, unless it's just skimming here and there.

And how is it that when i'm here, no one is, and when I'm not here, people are?

[Annabel Lee]

Hello Loki :wave:

How is my favorite Catholic atheist?

[elanor]

Hello and welcome, Annabel! :wave: I was just thinking as I saw your name on the board that I should PM you an invitation. Glad you found your way here. :)

[Talmidah]

Seebs, loki, September, tattedsaint, talmidah, CaDan, McCravey, GreenPartyVoter, Buttermilk, seebs, Polycarp1, nyj, toney, Erwin -- what shall I put you down as bringing?
:scratch: Well, since it is high tea, ya'll probably won't be wanting some lox and bagels...

[Talmidah]

Talmidah has lovely new dishes we might borrow that were recently Mikvehed in the Pacific.
Very true....I shall bring my new dishes to the tea :thumbsup:

[Loki]

I'll take bagels and lox. Despite the huge New York and Jewish population in Ann Arbor, can't find good bagels & lox.

Hey Annabel. Doin' fine over here; just gearing up for school, which starts next Tuesday. Will be on the career path to: PharmD!

How're you doing?

[Loki]

I'm so glad there's this thread, cause I"m getting really riled by LT and GA. Time to cool off. Now where's that lox?

[Annabel Lee]

Hey Annabel. Doin' fine over here; just gearing up for school, which starts next Tuesday. Will be on the career path to: PharmD!

How're you doing?That's great, Loki.
And I am doing fine. :)
Youngest daughter starts school tomorrow. Middle daughter is taking a semester off to 'find herself'. Oldest daughter and I are planning her wedding.

Guess where it will be? Go on guess???
Hawaii. :)

[Loki]

Wow... Hawaii. It sounds so exotic, compared to Michigan. I can't imagine the sun shining reliably, or the warm beaches and nice waves. Does she live out there, or just getting married there?

[nadroj1985]

Hey everybody :wave: I finally noticed this thread. How long's it been here? So anyway, what's up? Is there any ice cream left? I like cookies and cream.

current music: Lou Reed & John Cale - Images

I don't know if I've told you you have great taste in music, but you do. Is that off the "Songs for 'Drella" album?

[nadroj1985]

Oldest daughter and I are planning her wedding.

Cool... congratulations to your daughter.

Guess where it will be? Go on guess???

Hmmm...... *nadroj rubs temples slowly....* Is it... Hawaii??? That would be really cool if it was Hawaii!

Hawaii. :)

Wow, that's great. I just have a sixth sense about these things.

[Loki]

Heya Nadroj.

This thread's only been up a couple of days. Have you been around much? I'm currently trying to avoid wanting to bang my head on the desk, so I'm sticking to this thread and this thread only.

[nadroj1985]

Heya Nadroj.

This thread's only been up a couple of days. Have you been around much? I'm currently trying to avoid wanting to bang my head on the desk, so I'm sticking to this thread and this thread only.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I actually haven't been in the warzone areas for a week or so, so I'm getting back into it a little bit today. I usually just post in the Secular Music forum when I get tired of GA and LT; it's nice to have a safe haven to kick back in... of course most places don't have the extremely high person-to-ice-cream-cone ratio that this one does.

[CaDan]

=
I don't know if I've told you you have great taste in music, but you do. Is that off the "Songs for 'Drella" album?

*blushes* There's some pretty embarrassing stuff in the iTunes mix, too!

/me confesses weakness for early 80s synth-pop.

Yup. Personally, I think it is Lou Reed's best work since "Transformer". Just really excellent songwriting.

[Buttermilk]

of course most places don't have the extremely high person-to-ice-cream-cone ratio that this one does.
Yep plenty ice cream to go round :D

[Loki]

Peanut Gallery Post:

Polycarp's "An Interesting Liturgy" thread is certainly interesting. I don't know that there is any of that in my area, though I'd definitely be interested in seeing it. I really like the liturgy, though I'd have to agree with CaDan's recommendations.

School's going to start now, so time to go "church-hopping" again. I've been to about a dozen houses of worship in town, and have gained quite a bit of insight from visiting around. And for the most part, people are very nice :)

The most unique and beautiful one I went to was at an Episcopal ... gathering. I'm not even quite sure what it is... they call themselves Episcopal, and adhere to the tenets of Progressive Christianity (Not sure if I'm allowed to link to their website for fear of violating Rule 5), and have what they call "Jazz Mass." http://www.canterburyhouse.org is their website. They do "taize chants," and I'm not sure the tradition or origin of this, but it was really neat, and produced the closest thing I've had to a transcendental experience in a service. The only thing is that I'm imtimidated by small groups, and it's a small group, and it's very hard to hide in the shadows when there are 25 other people in the room with you.

Anyone else been to a really cool service lately?

And in case people think I'm going Episcopalean, my heart's still in the Catholic Church, and there's a beautiful one of those in town. It evokes different feelings, but nice, nonetheless.

[McCravey]

Hi guys!

Sorry I've been out of the tea party for a while....been on a ministry. My best friend was running for local judge and was defeated. It was mostly Conservative Christian oposition that beat him. They don't like the fact that he doesn't attend any church, and that he has questions about God.

He is a very real person, loves God very much, even though he can't describe him, and has a real giving heart. He is very crushed by the experience. *sigh*

The problem was....professing Christians not acting Christ-like....you know what I mean.

I'm sorry I didn't bring anything.....how's the tea coming?

[McCravey]

*Darn*

Frances is on the way. She may be here this weekend...may do lots of damage.

I have to go and get ready...people will need shelter, food and faith, (friendship will help too), Father, please grant us plenty of all these and other needs.

Sorry, I have to run.

I'll come back when it's over and have some tea.

Would you like me to bring some Baklava?

[Loki]

Baklava sounds great. Tea's steeping at the moment. Loki's growing more and more frustrated with Micro$oft and is about to throttle the CDs.

[CaDan]

Just dropping in briefly. I'm off dealing with some weird mean heresy in Liberal Theology (and you know it has to be crazy for me to call it heresy!)

But here's the Spumoni! Sorry it took so long. I hope it didn't get too soft . . .

[Toney]

Hi. I think I will have a proper cream tea -- two fresh, warm scones covered with clotted cream and topped with fresh strawberry jam. Yorkshire tea with cream and sugar, please. Proper job!

[CaDan]

Loki's growing more and more frustrated with Micro$oft and is about to throttle the CDs.

Yummy Linux on the back end and Mac OSX on the front end at the CaDan House o' Exegesis.

And, of course, Küng and Crossan on the bookshelves . . .
:)

[Loki]

I don't know enough about computers to make the jump to Linux, yet.

[seebs]

Ugh. I spent six hours last night trying to share a printer from my Mac to my PC. No luck.

I may just give up and plug the printer into thee PC when I want to print from it.

[Annabel Lee]

*Darn*

Frances is on the way. She may be here this weekend...may do lots of damage.

I have to go and get ready...people will need shelter, food and faith, (friendship will help too), Father, please grant us plenty of all these and other needs.

Sorry, I have to run.

I'll come back when it's over and have some tea.

Would you like me to bring some Baklava?
Don't worry about the baklava, just take care of yourself!
I'll serve you tea myself when Frances is over.

[elanor]

Yes, McCravey, do take care! Hope you aren't in the fiercest path of the storm.

I'm restless tonight, and not able to keep my mind off of the hurricane. My brother and sister-in-law are in a shelter in Port St. Lucie, FL, a friend of mine is riding out the storm in her home in Hollywood, FL, and my niece is with her mother-in-law on the west coast of the state. As I just told Uber, who knew a hurricane in Florida could disturb the peace of someone in California? I will be so glad when this is over and power restored so I can just call and hear the voices I want to hear again. :prayer:

[Loki]

I'm still upset at the microsoft CDs, but the Boy introduced me to Warcraft III, so that's another thing to occupy my time...

[Treasure the Questions]

Peanut Gallery Post:

Polycarp's "An Interesting Liturgy" thread is certainly interesting. I don't know that there is any of that in my area, though I'd definitely be interested in seeing it. I really like the liturgy, though I'd have to agree with CaDan's recommendations.

School's going to start now, so time to go "church-hopping" again. I've been to about a dozen houses of worship in town, and have gained quite a bit of insight from visiting around. And for the most part, people are very nice :)

The most unique and beautiful one I went to was at an Episcopal ... gathering. I'm not even quite sure what it is... they call themselves Episcopal, and adhere to the tenets of Progressive Christianity (Not sure if I'm allowed to link to their website for fear of violating Rule 5), and have what they call "Jazz Mass." http://www.canterburyhouse.org (http://www.canterburyhouse.org/) is their website. They do "taize chants," and I'm not sure the tradition or origin of this, but it was really neat, and produced the closest thing I've had to a transcendental experience in a service. The only thing is that I'm imtimidated by small groups, and it's a small group, and it's very hard to hide in the shadows when there are 25 other people in the room with you.

Anyone else been to a really cool service lately?

And in case people think I'm going Episcopalean, my heart's still in the Catholic Church, and there's a beautiful one of those in town. It evokes different feelings, but nice, nonetheless.
Hi Loki. Taize is an ecumenical Catholic Community in France. It's pretty amazing. I love their chants when I want to be peaceful. They have gatherings for young people mostly, so maybe you can get to one one day. Here is their website http://www.taize.fr/en/index.htm

I think Brother Andrew started it to do some sort of reconciliation work after World War 2.

Karin

[Loki]

I might head back to Canterbury house some; they're nice and welcoming. I like the Progressive christianity bit, and the whole Jazz Mass is amazing. I'm usually all about high rite and ritual, but this almost sold me on contemporary stuff.

Anyone want some tea? It's Jasmine today... heading further east!

[Toney]

Smells and bells are neat, but high tea's a treat.

I'll have some Earl Grey and two of the little Edwardian cucumber finger sandwiches, please.

/me notes that Colorado's own Celestial Seasonings makes a wonderful Earl Grey using Assam and Kenyan teas and natural bergamot flavour. Tip: Never use lemon in Earl Grey tea. It detracts from the bergamot.

[Loki]

I prefer Twinings loose leaf myself, though I should check out that bulk foods store a few miles out, which has leaf teas of more types than I've ever heard of.

Coincidentally, I'm wearing my Celestial Seasoning's t-shirt today.

[McCravey]

Hello everyone:

Well Frances was tough to handle. The edge of the eye wall came over the top of my house. My house is still standing though...(Thank you Lord!)....very little damage.

There were a few trees down in my yard. We had to cut them up to get out of my driveway. We did this while in the middle of the storm....quite messy.

I have learned a new found appreciation for our electric system. We were without power for two days....it was misserable. We used a generator to keep our refrigerator going.....two hours at a time. We cooked on a camp stove, and ate very well, by the way..

We even took the time to bake some baklava.....Please have some.

It's good to be back!

[Toney]

Hello everyone:

Well Frances was tough to handle. The edge of the eye wall came over the top of my house. My house is still standing though...(Thank you Lord!)....very little damage.

There were a few trees down in my yard. We had to cut them up to get out of my driveway. We did this while in the middle of the storm....quite messy.

I have learned a new found appreciation for our electric system. We were without power for two days....it was misserable. We used a generator to keep our refrigerator going.....two hours at a time. We cooked on a camp stove, and ate very well, by the way..

We even took the time to bake some baklava.....Please have some.

It's good to be back!
Good to have you back safe and sound! I noticed that Ivan was upgraded to Category 5 (160+ mph wind) and is bearing down on Jamaica. Looks to be a nasty one, for sure.

[Loki]

Pshaw. 2 days sans electricity? Child's play. After some weird storm that wasn't a tornado, but acted like a bunch of tornadoes, my home... area was without power for about a week, longer further out.

Glad to hear you weathered Frances okay, though. We got a bit of her rain all the way up in Michigan.

Yum, baklava!

What's with all the hurricanes this season?

[Treasure the Questions]

What's with all the hurricanes this season?
A result of global warming?

K

[McCravey]

If I said God's judgement would that be adequate for a liberal forum LOL.

By the way Ivan is headed straight toward us now.

We could all use your prayers.

By the way Loki. What made the loss of power so bad was the 80 plus degree temperatures at night and the high humidity.....impossible to cool off enough to sleep. (Oh how soft I've become compared to my grandparents!) We had a generator but it couldn't run anything more than lights and the refrigerator. Now I know why they built wrap around porches and spent every evening sitting on them.

[Treasure the Questions]

My daughter's friend went on a holiday abroad for the first time in her life, to Florida. She visited the Orlando studios (?) and after just one day they were evacuated. They did have some time at Disney Land/World first. It seems they went to a few more hotels before going home, and their return was delayed for several days.

Of course it's good that they are all safe, but rather ironic all that should happen the first time she ventures out of this country.

Karin

[Loki]

Bloody heat and humidity. Yeah, that'll make things a lot worse. It's like last summer when the power went out for the northeast and midwest. I feel personally responsible for that one, cause I turned on the AC, and then the power went out.

I am posting this here cause there's really no other appropriate place to post it:

Rosary, free to a good home. I'm giving away my rosary, and if someone would like to mention it to the Catholics/Anglicans, perhaps someone would like my slightly used rosary? Oh, and this person also has to be able to tell me how to transfer it to them. This is the CF rosary, btw.

[Loki]

So... it's saturday night, I'm being an anti-social geek, and I have this gmail account and don't know what I'm gonna do with it. Anyone want a beer? Or alcoholic-free beer, or rootbeer?

[CaDan]

So... it's saturday night, I'm being an anti-social geek, and I have this gmail account and don't know what I'm gonna do with it. Anyone want a beer? Or alcoholic-free beer, or rootbeer?

Seebs 'n' I just got back from Denny's. I had mozarella sticks and 'n' a milkshake; he just had an english muffin. We were plottin' the overthrow of Christian Forums usin' a hypertextual golem, but he got distracted inkin' stuff.

I was all like "Seebs! Pay attention, man!" And he was all like "Look at this cool pen!" And I was all like "Dude! That pen will not help us make a hypertextual golem. It is so old technology." And he was all like "This pen is very high tech!" And I was all like "Yeah, but how are we gonna make a hypertext golem out of it?" And he was like "I dunno. You got any ideas?" And I was all like "Man, you're the one with the blog 'n' stuff--you should know how to do this!"

But then he got all busy inkin' panels and wouldn't talk any more.

So I just went back to eatin' my Denny's mozarella sticks. I prob'ly shoulda got the SuperBird, 'cause they were pretty bad mozarella sticks.

[seebs]

Those pens are truly awesome, and your imitation of the style of Fafblog is also pretty impressive.

I have reprinted my panels on non-coated paper, and will now experience the joy of inking and practicing.

[CaDan]

Those pens are truly awesome, and your imitation of the style of Fafblog is also pretty impressive.

I have reprinted my panels on non-coated paper, and will now experience the joy of inking and practicing.

Imitation? Hah!

Note the conversation style. Fafblog uses the "Blah blah blah," says {direct object} construction. CaDan uses the {subject} is [all] like "Blah blah blah" construction.

And we will soon unleash a Hyptertextual Golem o' Super-Powerful Über-Apologitics! Its Eschatological Force Field 'n' Soteriological Lasers will be, like, awesome. And it will have Wing Pods and lots o' other Power-ups.

Really.

[Loki]

You two are great :) You seriously make it worth sticking around this place. I'm sorry that your hypertextual golem plans never came to fruition, but such is the way of most dreams of world domination, or ubb domination.

[CaDan]

You two are great :) You seriously make it worth sticking around this place. I'm sorry that your hypertextual golem plans never came to fruition, but such is the way of most dreams of world domination, or ubb domination.

We just have a few bugs 'n' stuff to work out. Like we fed it Acts 10:9-20 'n' it started rootin' around lookin' for pork sausage screamin' 'bout the new coventant. It wouldn't do nothin' 'cept eat all the Jimmy Dean it could find.

And like we were tryin' to explain the Common Meal Tradition 'n' stuff to it, but it just wasn't gettin' it. It just kept stuffin' itself with the pork sausage.

[Loki]

And I'd just like to say, nice pirate speak in the other threads.

[CaDan]

Arrgghh! 'tis a joy ta speak tha pirate's tongue in tha face o' those scurvy dispensationalists!

And now to a pirate's evening filled wi' Rum, Sodomy an th' Lash!

[Treasure the Questions]

And now to a pirate's evening filled wi' Rum, Sodomy an th' Lash!Not sure I believe what you told me the other day, CaDan. First a pansy, now this!:eek: :D

[Kaonashi]

And a pirate's life it be!!!I need my Turtle Tracks and roasted honey^_^ I survived Ivan along with the rest of our apartment. Flying a kite in 115 mile an hour winds is fun!

[Treasure the Questions]

I see your new strapline sounds a whole lot more macho, CaDan. :cool:

[CaDan]

I see your new strapline sounds a whole lot more macho, CaDan. :cool:

Heh. You said "strap".

I'm not sure anything by David Bowie could really be considered "macho".

[Treasure the Questions]

Heh. You said "strap".

I'm not sure anything by David Bowie could really be considered "macho".
He he :D

I only said more macho.:) I think he seemed fairly macho when I was young, but I was also fairly innocent.

Karin

[Kaonashi]

David Bowie is as macho as Miss Piggy:D KI-AI!!! I built a golem once but it ate all my ice cream so I had to dismantle it by making it watch 3 weeks worth of the 700 Club:preach::D

[CaDan]

I built a golem once but it ate all my ice cream so I had to dismantle it by making it watch 3 weeks worth of the 700 Club:preach::D

:D

I'd be afraid ta let my golem watch the 700 Club!

[CaDan]

With the passing of the equinox, I have changed from free ice cream to free pie! Look for free ice cream to return next spring.

[Toney]

With the passing of the equinox, I have changed from free ice cream to free pie! Look for free ice cream to return next spring.

:clap: :clap: :clap: 'Tis a pagan thing we do. It is said that with the news of the world every morning the Ravens Hugin and Munin brought fresh pie to the Most High (sugar) Odin, who fancied treacle tart.

Mmmmmm. Like Pink Cookies, Nordic pie is good. :P

http://www.msnusers.com/2c19e35eqk4acjg7b8c3th3eu6/Documents/Pictures%2Fpink%20cookie.jpg

[CaDan]

:clap: :clap: :clap: 'Tis a pagan thing we do. It is said that with the news of the world every morning the Ravens Hugin and Munin brought fresh pie to the Most High (sugar) Odin, who fancied treacle tart.


Those pesky ravens! Always after my pie! They said their names meant Thought and Memory, but they were really just Heckle 'n' Jeckle. Just 'cause they hung out wi' ol' One Eye, they thought they were really somethin'.

An' Odin always said he gave up his eye to drink from the sacred well, but I heard he just shot it out messin' around wi' a Red Ryder B-B Gun.

[USincognito]

Don't mind me folks, just subscribing and saying hello. :wave:

[GreenPartyVoter]

Don't mind me folks, just subscribing and saying hello. :wave:
Well hello right back. :wave:

[tulc]

(tulc comes in, looks around, nods his head start setting up some stereo equipment) "I think I'll put the stuff in this corner, so it's sort of out of the way but still close to the rooms flow of traffic!" (puts on "the Waterboys" Fishermans blues) "Thought it went well with the room!"
tulc(I'll bring some couches and chairs next time I come! :wave: )

[CaDan]

(tulc comes in, looks around, nods his head start setting up some stereo equipment) "I think I'll put the stuff in this corner, so it's sort of out of the way but still close to the rooms flow of traffic!" (puts on "the Waterboys" Fishermans blues) "Thought it went well with the room!"
tulc(I'll bring some couches and chairs next time I come! :wave: )

Ya might wanna toe in those speakers a little . . .

:)

"Has anybody here seen Hank?"

:) :)

[tulc]

"Has anybody here seen Hank?""Well he's sure to be wearing his Stetson!"
tulc(love those guys!)

[USincognito]

tulc is a liberal Christian? Wait a minute. He believes in the redemptive sacrifice of Jesus. He believes God created it the Universe. He has experienced Gifts of the Spirit...

Sounds Fundy to me...

Well, there is his haircut...

[tulc]

tulc is a liberal Christian? Wait a minute. He believes in the redemptive sacrifice of Jesus. He believes God created it the Universe. He has experienced Gifts of the Spirit...

Sounds Fundy to me... Yes I believe in that but! I also am reluctant to believe God is so limited that I can know and understand everything about Him. In other words as far as I know I'm right, but then again so can others be right about God. He goes well beyond me. Or as someone else once said (surprise! tulc has a quote!):
When we believe something to be the absolute truth, we are closed. We are no longer open to the understanding and insight of other people, and this is
because the object of our faith is just an idea, not a living thing. But if the object of your faith is your direct experience and your insight, then you can always be open. You can grow everyday in your practice, in sharing the fruit of your practice, and in making your faith, love, and happiness grow.
-Thich Nhat Hanh
tulc(and also there's that wierd haircut!) :eek:

[McCravey]

tulc is a liberal Christian? Wait a minute. He believes in the redemptive sacrifice of Jesus. He believes God created it the Universe. He has experienced Gifts of the Spirit...

Sounds Fundy to me...

Well, there is his haircut...

many of us are fundamental in some areas, but we apply it liberally.

[praying]

Hello All :wave:

[tulc]

Hey Sis! :wave:
tulc(a liberal/fundy with a weird haircut) :)

[freespirit2001]

With the passing of the equinox, I have changed from free ice cream to free pie! Look for free ice cream to return next spring.
I keep reading FAT-free between the lines CaDan..there must be something wrong with me....is it just "free' or do you mean fat-free?

Also...has any ever heard the word modus operandi ? I like its meaning, but its just started to dawn on me today---doesn't this word phrase go back to the Greek tradegy days of outdoor theater?

[USincognito]

Also...has any ever heard the word modus operandi ? I like its meaning, but its just started to dawn on me today---doesn't this word phrase go back to the Greek tradegy days of outdoor theater?

I don't believe so, since it's a Latin phrase.

Are you sure you're not thinking of Deus ex machina?

[freespirit2001]

I don't believe so, since it's a Latin phrase.

Are you sure you're not thinking of Deus ex machina?
LOL!!!!:doh:... it was the Deus ex machina!.....(he-he-he)...thats funny to think of it how I got it confused... Thanks again USincognito!

[USincognito]

LOL!!!!:doh:... it was the Deus ex machina!.....(he-he-he)...thats funny to think of it how I got it confused... Thanks again USincognito!

I've actually used that in context in a post to a television related forum. It was a reality tv show where the "rules" seemed to be arbitrary decisions on the part of the producers as the filming occured. I described them as meddling in the show like a deus ex machina.

[CaDan]

I keep reading FAT-free between the lines CaDan..there must be something wrong with me....is it just "free' or do you mean fat-free?

Fat free?
Fat free?

I will have you know free pies are best made with leaf lard for the crusts!

(although I have some shortening ones for those vegan wiccans!)

Also...has any ever heard the word modus operandi ? I like its meaning, but its just started to dawn on me today---doesn't this word phrase go back to the Greek tradegy days of outdoor theater?

Since the phrase is Latin, I don't think so. I could be wrong . . .

[freespirit2001]

Fat free?
Fat free?

I will have you know free pies are best made with leaf lard for the crusts!

(although I have some shortening ones for those vegan wiccans!)



Since the phrase is Latin, I don't think so. I could be wrong . . .LOL!!! Most men love everything so fattening!!! A connoiseur's knowledge of even wiccan crusts....(?) Leaf lard crust----does it have a leaf impression on it? ( I've seen it on the DIY show with pouring cement on large leaves to make an leaf shaped mold( with a leaf impression) for a birdbath)


I also love soy beans and soy bean products myself, and were harvesting our lima beans now-My fiance has to have a whole stick of butter in every dish, even the Lima Bean Soup....

[McCravey]

Hello all;

With all this cold weather coming I would like a fire?

We have plenty of fire wood from hurricane damage.

A nice old fireplace, some soft arm chairs and hot chocolate, anyone interested?

[freespirit2001]

Lol!!!

I'm supposed to reading The DaVinci Code for my aunt...looks like a beautiful place to have a fire going..the weather has been cool...

[StormeTorque]

Brrr - couldn't believe how cold it was today here - it felt like Greenland.

Anyway, hello folks!

[McCravey]

Lol!!!

I'm supposed to reading The DaVinci Code for my aunt...looks like a beautiful place to have a fire going..the weather has been cool...

Read it this summer. Enjoyed it greatly. I think it is a good lesson on how complicated and controlling religious thinking can get....on any side of the issue.

There's a nice comfy chair right over there...

[freespirit2001]

:confused: .......;) ...Awww...I like your l'ttle goat herders note in your sig!!!!



( Somehow it reminds me of the "Sound of Music!!!")
(....the cute little mountain puppet dance..."High on the Hill lived a lonely goatherd....Oh--dah-ladie-oh-dah-ladie"....)...a wannabe yodel wanderer...

[McCravey]

:confused: .......;) ...Awww...I like your l'ttle goat herders note in your sig!!!!



( Somehow it reminds me of the "Sound of Music!!!")
(....the cute little mountain puppet dance..."High on the Hill lived a lonely goatherd....Oh--dah-ladie-oh-dah-ladie"....)...a wannabe yodel wanderer...

LOL. Thanks, I enjoy them very much. For some reason shepherding appeals to me, I could spend all day watching a herd grazing on the hillside. (if there were any hillsides in Florida)

[elanor]

Just stumbling through to say hello everyone. :wave: It's too early here to form much more in the way of thought. Morning's are hard on night owls.

[McCravey]

Brrr - couldn't believe how cold it was today here - it felt like Greenland.

Anyway, hello folks!

Hi Storme Torque.

Where did you get a picture of me dancing at my High School prom?

[freespirit2001]

Just stumbling through to say hello everyone. :wave: It's too early here to form much more in the way of thought. Morning's are hard on night owls.Hey elanor...:wave: !!! Just saying Hi again!...?

I over-heard two women Methodist ministers speaking of ideas for sermons in the Chinese Bouffet Restaurant this afternoon, where I had lunch with a senior friend ....You know I never really personally met any women ministers, and we have three Methodist Churches in our small waterfront town all run by one methodist woman minister. It was a kind of coincidence meeting them. I did glance over, and later introduced myself, and asked where their churches were located....I mentioned Christian Forums to them (they hadn't heard of CF before) and the other liberals here. It was a good feeling...

I like those night owl or night hawk evenings myself...(?)


Some picture StormeTorque!!! Can you share it (here for us all to see) outside your avatar?

[StormeTorque]

Hi Storme Torque.

Where did you get a picture of me dancing at my High School prom?
Haha! I decided to make a funny gif of myself, cutting my head from a photo and adding cartoon style arms and legs.

You should see what my dancing is like, no really, nobody's could be worse than mine :)

[Iggster]

Hello everyone.....:wave:

Just noticed this thread......All this talk of tea and coffee is making me crave for breakfast at 3pm PST...........Anyone for corned beef hash, toast, eggs, and hashbrowns?

I'll take my mocha with a shot of rum razz (raspberry rum) please.........mmmmmmm :thumbsup:

[USincognito]

Just noticed this thread......All this talk of tea and coffee is making me crave for breakfast at 3pm PST...........Anyone for corned beef hash, toast, eggs, and hashbrowns?

We're on! Meet you at IHOP. :yum:

[Crazy Liz]

It's funny how much of the "pub" or "fellowship" threads focus on food and beverages. It's really too cool this afternoon to have the windows open here in Southern California. But I don't want to close them. Think I'll put on a sweatshirt and make some hot cider and keep them open.

Anybody else want a cup? http://www.iangilman.com/germany/img/cider.jpg

[Crazy Liz]

USI, I notice you've changed your avatar. I've been curious about it for a long time. Could you tell us a little about it?

[tulc]

Well if we are ordering I'll take a Denver omelet with some whole wheat toast (no butter) and some hashbrowns, with a glass of milk! ;)
tulc(and a side of spam please!)

[USincognito]

USI, I notice you've changed your avatar. I've been curious about it for a long time. Could you tell us a little about it?

I guess about ten years ago some scientists did an experiment where they inserted a ear shaped matrix on the back of a mouse and grew cartillage on it. There was hope that they could grow replacement ears and noses (the cartillage at least) for people who lost them due to cancer or burns. I remembered the image and while posting to a message forum where another member would post particularly incoherent ramblings I decided to post a photo of earmouse with the caption "HUH?"

It sorta became my avatar mascot, and I've had a few different types including one with a hoop earring through the ear. A few days ago in other threads there was some conspiracy kook posts and that got me and a couple of other people talking about tin foil hats. I said if anyone would photoshop a tinfoil hat onto earmouse I'd use it for my avatar. Thus the change. :)

[Crazy Liz]

I see.... Thanks for the explanation.

It seems like about a year ago it was masks people were putting on their avatars. I never figured out why. Now I'll understand when I see a tinfoil hat.

[USincognito]

I see.... Thanks for the explanation.

It seems like about a year ago it was masks people were putting on their avatars. I never figured out why. Now I'll understand when I see a tinfoil hat.

The masks are mostly non-believers (and a few Christians playing along) to symbolize the Evil Atheist ConspriacyTM. I've thought the whole EAC garbage was stupid years ago, but I did put a mask on earmouse for a couple of weeks just to play along. I also put pink bunny ears on him for Easter and horns for Halloween.

I don't know if you know the details, but the tinfoil hat is a mockery of anti-government, anti-New World Order, etc. etc. conspiracy kooks who think "they" can send mind control waves or read your thoughts, and a tinfoil hat will protect you - but only if it's shiny side out. ^_^

[Crazy Liz]

One of my daughter's favorite movies is "Signs," so I'm familiar with the tinfoil hats. ^_^

http://www.film.it/fnts/film/immagini/278x182/signs03.jpg

[tulc]

Gooooooood Morning Cafe!
tulc(sets out some scones, puts on some hot water for coffee and tea, starts dusting)

[USincognito]

Gooooooood Morning Cafe!
tulc(sets out some scones, puts on some hot water for coffee and tea, starts dusting)

Ahem... Some of us work nights, and are winding down for bed. How about some brewskies and a nice turkey and swiss sandwich?

Oh man... must raid fridge... :yum:

[tulc]

US, you have to remember I drink coffee right up until I go to bed. :eek:
(tulc wheels in a huge refridgerator and sets it up in the kitchen) "Feel free to stock what you like in here!" (tulc stocks shelves with lunchmeat and bread) "The spam is mine, but if you ask nicely I'll fry up some spam and eggs later!" ;)
tulc(sets up a diet pepsi machine off to one side) :cool:

[freespirit2001]

Where do you keep your george foreman grill, tulc?

Any Taylor Pork Roll in the fridge or frozen mini Chung King Egg Rolls in the freezer? Hard rolls?

LIGHT Spam .... or the late late Friday night fried Canned Hash...?

[StormeTorque]

[QUOTE=tulc]US, you have to remember I drink coffee right up until I go to bed. :eek:

I had coffee right before I went to bed in my student days, when I frequently stayed awake until 3am. It actually helped me to wake up in the morning. My theory was that as I was so tired, I went to sleep before the caffiene kicked in, but when I woke 5 hours later for my 9am lecture, the caffiene was still in my system and so I didn't feel as zombified as I would have normally.:eek:

[Garnet2727]

*strolls in, waves to everyone and drops a bag of Hershey's kisses on the nearest table*

Anyone else need a chocolate fix?

[Loki]

Bwaah. Stupid student groups out to destroy me. Bwaah.

Must keep from slumping into depression. Getting cynical's okay, cause I can control that, but going into "slothmode" is not okay.

How's everyone else?

[seebs]

Everyone else is rolling in work, but has to run out to the store to buy a NEW PRINTER because everyone else's roommate is buying his old printer.

BTW, did you know that psychologists suggest that we often tend to assume other people are more like ourselves than they really are? Apropos of nothing.

[tulc]

I had coffee right before I went to bed in my student days, when I frequently stayed awake until 3am. It actually helped me to wake up in the morning. My theory was that as I was so tired, I went to sleep before the caffiene kicked in, but when I woke 5 hours later for my 9am lecture, the caffiene was still in my system and so I didn't feel as zombified as I would have normally
Nice theory! ;)
tulc(who gets up not for school but because he's old!) :sigh:

[Annabel Lee]

Tulc..another coffee aficianado here!
(if I spelled aficianado correctly I will be very surprised)

[tulc]

(if I spelled aficianado correctly I will be very surprised)
Close enough Sis! ;)
tulc(going on vacation starting tommorow!) :cool:

[Crazy Liz]

Tulc..another coffee aficianado here!
(if I spelled aficianado correctly I will be very surprised)

http://tubes.ominix.com/art/food/coffee-cup-steaming-black-outline.jpg

Liz hands Annable Lee a cup of raktajino.

[Crazy Liz]

Where do you keep your george foreman grill, tulc?

http://www.zzz.com.ru/zzz_original_site/igrill.jpg

Check his USB port, FS2.

[Annabel Lee]

http://tubes.ominix.com/art/food/coffee-cup-steaming-black-outline.jpg

Liz hands Annable Lee a cup of raktajino.
Thank you.
(Klingon coffee will grow hair on your chest!!):thumbsup:

[CaDan]

Thank you.
(Klingon coffee will grow hair on your chest!!):thumbsup:

And apparently remove it from your scalp!

After 3 p.m. - no more coffee for me unless I want to be up all night reading theology and playing PlayStation! Not a good idea since I'm helping a friend edit a Supreme Court petition for review.

[freespirit2001]

http://www.zzz.com.ru/zzz_original_site/igrill.jpg

Check his USB port, FS2.What have I missed?

I was worried about all this talk about rich heavy food...

I may have needed to take a few days sabbantical ...to digest this all....Awww cool grill Crazy Liz!!!

Well tulc, I'm going to miss you...:wave:for the while you're gone... Do you need anything done while you're away---like feeding any pets, or checking on the lights anywhere....? bringing in the paper....?

[Garnet2727]

Thank you.
(Klingon coffee will grow hair on your chest!!):thumbsup:*swears off Klingon coffee...don't need no hair on the chest..nope, nope*

[elanor]

Nice theory! ;)
tulc(who gets up not for school but because he's old!) :sigh:
You are two days older than me. You are NOT old. Got that? http://www.ringbearer.org/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif ;)

Have a great vacation, bro! :)

Liz, I want that grill!! :D

[Crazy Liz]

Liz, I want that grill!! :D

You can get it the same place (http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/looflirpa/igrill.shtml) where my son gets all his clothes.

[Loki]

Bleech. Coffee.

Tea's where it's at. Breakfast tea anyone? It's gonna be a loooong night...

[elanor]

I'm with you, Loki! No coffee: tea! But I like mine iced, weak, and sweet. Or, on a cold night, hot tea--Good Earth Original Blend, please.

[Garnet2727]

:doh: Any tranquilizers in here??? Gack. I need to take a break from all forums...or at least be drugged to where nothing matters.

Oblivion...yeah...that's it. :sleep:

[Treasure the Questions]

Just thought I'd mention that I've started a blog to sort of explore what I think it means to be a Christian in every day terms. Maybe someone here will want to read it and maybe even want to respond to something I say. It's just getting started at the moment, mind.

Living Faith http://living-faith.blogspot.com/


Karin

[freespirit2001]

Just thought I'd mention that I've started a blog to sort of explore what I think it means to be a Christian in every day terms. Maybe someone here will want to read it and maybe even want to respond to something I say. It's just getting started at the moment, mind.

Living Faith http://living-faith.blogspot.com/


Karin
I like your blog Treasure the Questions! Maybe you can incorporate your blog in a creative way to your posts here, in the cafe, by leaving a message at the bottom of your posts here....or put quotes around your "thought" and entitle it with your personal thought for the day...

For example: Freespirit's thought of the day:Freespirit's Thought of the Day: :prayer: ^_^ :eek: Try to make one new friend a day:idea: !!!

[CaDan]

Our thermostat isn't working quite right, so it's a little cool tonight. A good night for cocoa.

[Loki]

Weak tea is fine by me. I'm sort of ashamed to admit it, but I prefer it weak to strong.

Mmm.... cocoa. Not so good at thirst quenching, though, so I dont' think I'll get a cup right now.

Got to meet a childhood idol today, and gave him a miraculous medal. I feel somewhat fan-girlish, but hey, it's sort of a catharsis. And it's a better use of my time than playing warcraft.

[Garnet2727]

*bursts in and proceeds to clean everthing in reach in a fit of frenetic insomniac activity*

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*falls down in a slobbering heap on the floor*

:sleep:

[Loki]

At least you got some sleep, dear.

[CaDan]

*bursts in and proceeds to clean everthing in reach in a fit of frenetic insomniac activity*

..........................................................................................................
..........................................................................................................

*falls down in a slobbering heap on the floor*

:sleep:

Whoa. What just happened?

/me gets a blanket out of the cupboard and puts it over Garnet.

Night-night.

Shhh.....

[seebs]

Whee! It's 3AM in Chicago, and I'm nearly ready to sell UNTOLD QUANTITIES OF STICKERS at Anime Reactor.

[freespirit2001]

Whee! It's 3AM in Chicago, and I'm nearly ready to sell UNTOLD QUANTITIES OF STICKERS at Anime Reactor.
Maybe you should be checking the extent of the areas that certain electrical codes may or may not allow Anime Reactors concerning the energy and electrical outputs of your local energy companies at 3AM....

[Garnet2727]

*roll over, opens her eyes, stretches and yawns* Kewl..a blanket! *gets up, folds the blanket and puts it away, heads out the door*

[CaDan]

Y'all c'mon back real soon, now!

[CaDan]

I just baked up some bread and the whole CaDan House o' Liberal Theology smells yeasty 'n' yummy.

There's plenty t'share, but y'all are jus' gonna haveta wait 'til it cools a little. :)

[Crazy Liz]

:yum:

[Loki]

Ooh, I'll whip up some Tortellini soup to go with the bread!

I typically cook a pot enough to feed 10-13 people, so I think I'll make a double batch, just so no one goes hungry....

4 lbs tortellini, about 2 gal vegetable stock, spinach, red bell pepper, lots o' onion & garlic sauteed in olive oil, navy beans, artichoke hearts, fresh basil, fresh ground black pepper, some tomatoes.... it's simmering on the stove and help yourself to as much or as little as you'd like. There's some fresh grated parmesan in the fridge if you're so inclined.

[Loki]

I'm gonna hang out here for awhile, since LT is driving me nuts. Anyone like a cup of chocolate?

[CaDan]

Yummy chocolate!

[Garnet2727]

*strolls in*

Hi everyone :) I think I'm over my bout of insomnia....FINALLY.

*sniffs the air* Oooooooo...that all smells so good.

*pulls up a chair and settles in*

[CaDan]

Soup and bread--the classics!

[Garnet2727]

Particularly soup like that and fresh bread. NUMMY.

[Loki]

http://www.christianforums.com/t1034442-imagine.html


There is not a greater atheistic commie song :) But the intention behind it is pure, I think.

On an unrelated note, there's a poster on these boards whose avatar is "Imagine No Liberals," with a smiley face. I reported it, but I don't know if anything ever came of it. It seems like it's in very poor taste; imagine if one of us sported an avatar that was "Imagine no Conservatives/fundamentalists/republicans/Baptists...."

[Crazy Liz]

Loki, I was just trying to decide what to fix for a quick dinner. I think I'll have a bowl of your virtual soup and a piece of CaDan's virtual bread, and call that dinner. :yum:

[Garnet2727]

I hear ya Loki. But I've got to say, I've been enjoying my time here. I was concerned that my hot temper and tendency towards occassional snarkyness would get me kicked off quickly. But I've been treated fairly, met some good folks and am generally having a good time.

[CaDan]

As long as we're making trouble, how about this:

For we each of us deserve everything, every luxury that was piled in the tombs of the dead kings, and we each of us deserve nothing, not a mouthful of bread in hunger. Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think.

Ursual LeGuin, The Dispossessed.

[CaDan]

In 1649
To St George's Hill
A ragged band they called the Diggers
Come to show the people's will
They defied the landlords
They defied the law
They were the dispossessed
Reclaiming what was theirs


'We come in peace' they said
'To dig and sow
We come to work the land in common
And to make the waste land grow
This earth divided
We will make whole
So it can be
A common treasury for all


The sin of property
We do disdain
No one has any right to buy and sell
The earth for private gain
By theft and murder
They took the land
Now everywhere the walls
Rise up at their command


They make the laws
To chain us well
The clergy dazzle us with heaven
Or they damn us into hell
We will not worship
The God they serve
The God of greed who feeds the rich
While poor men starve


We work, we eat together
We need no swords
We will not bow to masters
Or pay rent to the lords
We are free men
Though we are poor
You Diggers all stand up for glory
Stand up now


From the men of property
The orders came
They sent the hired men and troopers
To wipe out the Diggers' claim
Tear down their cottages
Destroy their corn
They were dispersed
But still the vision lingers on


You poor take courage
You rich take care
This earth was made a common treasury
For everyone to share
All things in common
Al people one
We come in peace -
The order came to cut them down

Leon Rosselman, The World Turned Upside Down (best known for the Billy Bragg cover)

[Garnet2727]

*her brain implodes* CaDan! No fair trying to get me to think on a Friday night!!!!!! :sigh:

[Loki]

Blah.

[CaDan]

I'm baking more bread and I'm gonna make cookies later!

[Loki]

Blah

[Garnet2727]

Anyone watching CNN? The Fight for Faith?

[CaDan]

Anyone watching CNN? The Fight for Faith?

Is it any good? I'm baking (the computer room adjoins the kitchen).

[Garnet2727]

It's over now...I didn't catch it all...but I thought they did a good job. Parts of it scared me spitless though.

[Loki]

Oh, and what's with the whole end times bit in the profile now? Am I supposed to know what all those words mean? I know what historical means, but not in context with endtimes. I think I have a decent vocabulary; I even know some pretty obscure words, like antepenultimate. But I don't know what pretribulation means. I mean, in context of the endtimes stuff.

[CaDan]

Oh, and what's with the whole end times bit in the profile now? Am I supposed to know what all those words mean? I know what historical means, but not in context with endtimes. I think I have a decent vocabulary; I even know some pretty obscure words, like antepenultimate. But I don't know what pretribulation means. I mean, in context of the endtimes stuff.

Hmmmm......

Silliness. More things to divide us. Great, just great. :(

I noticed the endtimes one doesn't have a fill-in-the-blank option.

*knock* *knock*

Some of us aren't evangelicals. Some of us don't buy into Darby's revenge fantasies. Some of us believe in non-apocalyptic eschatology.

Well, I'm happy to say the pumpkin bread is now baking.

[CaDan]

Check it out!

You can check EVERY SINGLE ONE of the boxes!

I am now officially a :
Historical Preteral Future
A- Pre- and Postmillennial
Pre- Mid- and Posttribulationist!

Although I am really a Hypertextual Dispensationalist. I am made entirely of the Internet. The future cannot touch me. When the endtimes come, I'll be playing Stratego with my cats!

[Loki]

I checked them all too, because there was no "other" box. I think the world will end in heat death. But before that, we'll be fried alive when our sun goes through the red giant phase. But only if we survive a cataclysmic asteroid impact. Or if aliens come and blow up our planet cause all aliens are evil and bent on destroying the earth.

[Garnet2727]

Looks at the above posts. Meh..I'd rather have some pumpkin bread. :D

[Garnet2727]

OK...just saw this joke on another board and I've GOT to share.

And Jesus said unto them, "And whom do you say that I am?" They replied, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the ontological foundation of the context of our very selfhood revealed." And Jesus replied, "What?"

;)

[Loki]

*mindvomits on keyboard* eianvoieha;lml;fho;ihdab kdflkajdikuehibclksdiqpwjpqojcn

That could almost pass as a Polish word :)

I think that life is conspiring to do me in again.

[freespirit2001]

I JUST HAD TO POST THIS KEYBOARD...LOLXOXLOL!!! Your post reminded me of this pic!!!;) :D

(Sorry, the pic isn't as clear as I had hoped!...)

[Loki]

<rant>

I'm sick of people posting $0.05 answers to $5.00 questions. I take the time to write out what I feel is a fairly complex question, and get some cocky, pithy answer dumbing down the question. Rar.

</rant>

[Crazy Liz]

<rant>

I'm sick of people posting $0.05 answers to $5.00 questions. I take the time to write out what I feel is a fairly complex question, and get some cocky, pithy answer dumbing down the question. Rar.

</rant> :amen:

[Loki]

And I lost my bloody wallet. No weird charges on my cards yet, so I'll wait till the Boy comes home and see if he picked it up this morning or has any idea where I might've left it.

[Garnet2727]

Dang Loki...you're just not having a good day. Hope things get better for you.

[freespirit2001]

In 1649

To St George's Hill
A ragged band they called the Diggers
Come to show the people's will
They defied the landlords
They defied the law
They were the dispossessed
Reclaiming what was theirs


'We come in peace' they said
'To dig and sow
We come to work the land in common
And to make the waste land grow
This earth divided
We will make whole
So it can be
A common treasury for all


The sin of property
We do disdain
No one has any right to buy and sell
The earth for private gain
By theft and murder
They took the land
Now everywhere the walls
Rise up at their command


They make the laws
To chain us well
The clergy dazzle us with heaven
Or they damn us into hell
We will not worship
The God they serve
The God of greed who feeds the rich
While poor men starve


We work, we eat together
We need no swords
We will not bow to masters
Or pay rent to the lords
We are free men
Though we are poor
You Diggers all stand up for glory
Stand up now


From the men of property
The orders came
They sent the hired men and troopers
To wipe out the Diggers' claim
Tear down their cottages
Destroy their corn
They were dispersed
But still the vision lingers on


You poor take courage
You rich take care
This earth was made a common treasury
For everyone to share
All things in common
Al people one
We come in peace -
The order came to cut them down


Leon Rosselman, The World Turned Upside Down (best known for the Billy Bragg cover)
Well since no on has mentioned anything...(freespirit...aside....a slight shift in her glance)....:yum:

CaDan this is an excellent piece you contributed to this forum that no one commented on yet. I guess it was made while the cookies were baking while the spice was being added to the pumpkin bread which was being prepared to go in the oven after the cookies baked??? That was three days ago...he-he-he...I can still smell the mmmm spices.....

I love english literature and humanities courses in college, but hadn't read any of the work of the author from above. I did get through some of Machiavelli's The Prince, and I do honor his perspective of what the animus lokus or animus loki is and was during his time---(not quite a Freudian term...)

In my opinion it resembles what the Lord was sketching for us in the parable:
Matthew 21:33-41


Matthew 10:39
"He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find it..."RSV

[CaDan]

OK...just saw this joke on another board and I've GOT to share.

And Jesus said unto them, "And whom do you say that I am?" They replied, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the ontological foundation of the context of our very selfhood revealed." And Jesus replied, "What?"

;)

*shnort*

:D

[StormeTorque]

As long as we're making trouble, how about this:


For we each of us deserve everything, every luxury that was piled in the tombs of the dead kings, and we each of us deserve nothing, not a mouthful of bread in hunger. Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think.

Ursual LeGuin, The Dispossessed.
Just finished the "birthday of the world" and other short stories by Ursula Le Guin. The dispossesed was pretty good too - notice how she never includes hyperspacial travel in her novels, but there are brief glimpses of possible breakthroughs in the matter?

[CaDan]

Just finished the "birthday of the world" and other short stories by Ursula Le Guin. The dispossesed was pretty good too - notice how she never includes hyperspacial travel in her novels, but there are brief glimpses of possible breakthroughs in the matter?

The Ekumen has been a very fruitful universe for her writing.

I especially liked reading "The Day Before the Revolution" after reading "The Dispossessed".

[freespirit2001]

"Many promising reconciliations have broken down, while both parties came prepared to forgive, neither party came prepared to be forgiven."

---Charles William

"Ex umbris ei imagininibus in veritatem"---"From shadows to images of truth"

"Bebe legere saecia vincere"---"To read well is to master the ages"

"Ubi amor, ibi oculus"---"Where love is, there is insight"

"Vita brevis, ars lunga"---"Life is short, art is long"

"Vita sine libris mors est"---"Life without books is death"

"Ecclesia semper reformada est"---The church must always be reformed"*

*(from tulc's post #1290:http://www.christianforums.com/t47347&page=129)

[CaDan]

Extremely weird thoughts on extremely weird pie (http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2004_10_24_fafblog_archive.html#109896698911062567).

[McCravey]

Extremely weird thoughts on extremely weird pie (http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2004_10_24_fafblog_archive.html#109896698911062567).

he he. CaDan, where do you find such stuff?

mmf mmf (McCravey's mouth stuffed with goat meat and mountain oyster pie)

[CaDan]

he he. CaDan, where do you find such stuff?

mmf mmf (McCravey's mouth stuffed with goat meat and mountain oyster pie)

I am full of pie (http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/pie.htm) knowledge!

[freespirit2001]

The higher the pie, the longer it has to bake CaDan....sometimes a slighter lower oven temp helps....:cool:

[CaDan]

Corn starch is a better thickener than flour. :)

[McCravey]

I am full of pie (http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/pie.htm) knowledge!

I think Lo Bob needs to bring some pie with him the next time. :bow:

[apenman]

And I lost my bloody wallet. No weird charges on my cards yet, so I'll wait till the Boy comes home and see if he picked it up this morning or has any idea where I might've left it.
So, did you find your wallet?? I'm glad to see you replaced the frustrated icon with the stressed icon, I didn't like the image of you beating your head up against a wall. You doin OK????

[Crazy Liz]

Yes, did you find your wallet, brother Loki? ^_^

[Loki]

I've been better. Haven't found the wallet, no bloody clue where it is, though there was approximately 15 minutes where it could've gone missing, and I still can't find it. All credit cards have been replaced, am getting a new insurance card, need to get a new voter registration card (thankfully voting absentee this time), and only lost $14, which is annoying, but not life-threatening. Overall, it's just a very stressful time, and I have a headache, which may or may not be related to the stress. But technically it's not a migraine! It just has about 3/4th the symptoms of a migraine.

But I think I'm going to make a pumpkin pie this weekend, so that'll make things better. Eventhough I don't like pumpkin pie. I'll just give it away to friends.

How's everyone else? :P

[Loki]

Brother Loki?

[Crazy Liz]

Brother Loki?
Oh. I see you haven't checked the Liberal Theology forum yet. :blush:

[apenman]

But I think I'm going to make a pumpkin pie this weekend, so that'll make things better. Eventhough I don't like pumpkin pie. I'll just give it away to friends.

I love pumpkin pie! They had them on at safeway for 2.50 each, so I bought three in a row, then my wife said I couldn't have anymore. That wasn't very nice. Sniff. :P

[Garnet2727]

Job sucks. Life sucks in general. But I'm hanging in and hanging on.

[CaDan]

I love pumpkin pie! They had them on at safeway for 2.50 each, so I bought three in a row, then my wife said I couldn't have anymore. That wasn't very nice. Sniff. :P

Is that $2.50 Canadian? Isn't that like 67¢ US? :)

[apenman]

Is that $2.50 Canadian? Isn't that like 67¢ US? :)
Hey, our dollars not doing too bad these days. We might even catch you guys in a year or two. Hope your election goes OK CaDan, allot of us are pretty worried up here. Hope there isn't too much violence, etc. Really hoping that Kerry gets elected, he'll govern more like Clinton did, then maybe the world can be the world again, more, or less.

[CaDan]

Hey, our dollars not doing too bad these days. We might even catch you guys in a year or two. Hope your election goes OK CaDan, allot of us are pretty worried up here. Hope there isn't too much violence, etc. Really hoping that Kerry gets elected, he'll govern more like Clinton did, then maybe the world can be the world again, more, or less.

Remember folks: Vote early, vote often!
:)

I have decided I am conservative about one thing: voting technology! I want to go back to circling names on a piece of paper with a pencil. None of this optical scan or computerized polling junk. I don't see any problem with it taking a day or two to count the votes.

[CaDan]

Job sucks. Life sucks in general. But I'm hanging in and hanging on.

Have some pie! Alex sez they're only $US2.50 at Safeway!

Or you could wait for Brother Loki :) to cook hers.

[CaDan]

Brother Loki?

If you can be an atheist Christian, you can be a female brother! :D

/me gets out big stick and applies big ol' WHOMP! to gender roles

[Garnet2727]

Have some pie! Alex sez they're only $US2.50 at Safeway!

Or you could wait for Brother Loki :) to cook hers.
*looks up from her Dairy Queen butterfinger blizzard, grins*

Eh thanks...but I've ice cream now. Life ain't so bad. ;)

[apenman]

Remember folks: Vote early, vote often!
:)

I have decided I am conservative about one thing: voting technology! I want to go back to circling names on a piece of paper with a pencil. None of this optical scan or computerized polling junk. I don't see any problem with it taking a day or two to count the votes.
We still vote by puting an X in the box with a pen. So simple, even I can figure it out.

[CaDan]

Pie Philosophy (http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/art.htm).

O! The despair!

[Garnet2727]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhhhhhhhh!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!


*BRAAAAPPPPP*

*pie is gone*

[Crazy Liz]

I have decided I am conservative about one thing: voting technology! I want to go back to circling names on a piece of paper with a pencil. None of this optical scan or computerized polling junk. I don't see any problem with it taking a day or two to count the votes.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaDan again.

[Kaonashi]

Florida doesn't find it simple. :D

[CaDan]

Florida doesn't find it simple. :D

I'm so tired of Florida. Let's sell it to somebody and make a tidy profit!

[apenman]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaDan again.
Giving what??

[Crazy Liz]

:eek: ?

A piece of pie?

[Loki]

Oh. I see you haven't checked the Liberal Theology forum yet. :blush:
I think I'm still missing something.

I have no problem being a brother, though. I think I was a Jesuit in a previous life, except I don't believe in reincarnation... :P

[Loki]

Finally found the post. Posted back sort of sarcastically, cause I'm in no mood to be polite. Maybe i'll regret it tomorrow, but the way he's acting, I don't foresee him being open to the idea of a charitable atheist, or an atheist who thinks Christianity's swell, and thinks she has faith despite lack of belief.

And I informed him of my female genitalia.

[CaDan]

Finally found the post. Posted back sort of sarcastically, cause I'm in no mood to be polite. Maybe i'll regret it tomorrow, but the way he's acting, I don't foresee him being open to the idea of a charitable atheist, or an atheist who thinks Christianity's swell, and thinks she has faith despite lack of belief.

And I informed him of my female genitalia.

You didn't presume to actually teach him, did you? You know that's unscriptural! :)

[Swart]

We still vote by puting an X in the box with a pen. So simple, even I can figure it out.
I'm surprised that you North Americans haven't learnt about preferential voting yet.

[Swart]

I'm so tired of Florida. Let's sell it to somebody and make a tidy profit!
Maybe Cuba will buy it?

[CaDan]

I'm surprised that you North Americans haven't learnt about preferential voting yet.

Some local governments are experimenting with it. City Councils and the like.

[CaDan]

I love pumpkin pie! They had them on at safeway for 2.50 each, so I bought three in a row, then my wife said I couldn't have anymore. That wasn't very nice. Sniff. :P

Was that 2.50 in dollars or 2.50 in Canadian Tire Money? :D

[apenman]

Was that 2.50 in dollars or 2.50 in Canadian Tire Money? :D
Canadian tire doesn't sell pies!! But we do have Canadian Tire money, haven't counted it in awhile.

[Loki]

And I'm an ignorant fool or something like that, and have been deemed unworthy of participating in high brow discussions. And I said "bloody." Or maybe it was genitalia that he was offended by. *shrug*

Anyway, I'm posting this to tell you that I'm going to go on a self-imposed hiatus from CF for a variety of reasons. I'll be at Cross & Flame and that other unmentionable board. If you want to find me and don't know how, check Cross & Flame or ask Seebs.

Later y'all.

[apenman]

OK, what the heck is going on???

[freespirit2001]

You've had some excellent posts Loki!...I've felt the same as you at times, though, myself...I'm still new to this forum here, so I'm not sure how creative and giftedly inspired people are over here, but sometimes the more we are given by the Lord in life---well the more we are given--the more will be expected of us.....

Also---the harvest full Moon and the eclipse of this moon has had a strong pull also at our reasoning and our sometimes emotional outlook---it actually does make our feelings and judgemental sense seem totally eclipsed at times...like these....Hugs anyway!!! Hoping for more good spirit and good faith in the days ahead!...and not to be too overly hard on our own selves...!

[CaDan]

OK, what the heck is going on???

Julius Caesar, Act III, Sc. 1., lines 274-295.

[freespirit2001]

:sigh: XOXLOLXOX---AHHHAHAHEHE!!!

[USincognito]

And I'm an ignorant fool or something like that, and have been deemed unworthy of participating in high brow discussions. And I said "bloody." Or maybe it was genitalia that he was offended by. *shrug*

Anyway, I'm posting this to tell you that I'm going to go on a self-imposed hiatus from CF for a variety of reasons. I'll be at Cross & Flame and that other unmentionable board. If you want to find me and don't know how, check Cross & Flame or ask Seebs.

Later y'all.

:mad: :sick:

Come back soon Loki. I imposed a self-imposed exile for a self-imposed time period. I lasted about a week.

I might have received official warnings for what I consider the most capricious of rationales, but that doesn't fully destroy my reasons for enjoying CF. I've had people I respect suspended/banned recently, but that still doesn't quite end it for me. I'm going to stick it out... for a little while longer.

[Crazy Liz]

Kinda quiet around here today.

Are we all boycotting?

[apenman]

Kinda quiet around here today.

Are we all boycotting?
I'm trying to use the avatar instead of completely boycotting, but I'm have a problem, keep getting an error message.

[CaDan]

I'm still around. A little busy today, that's all.

[CaDan]

I'll probably make a batch of cookies later tonight. I have a hankerin' for some plain old sugar cookies.

[Crazy Liz]

I'm trying to use the avatar instead of completely boycotting, but I'm have a problem, keep getting an error message.

Your new avatar shows up fine on my computer.

[Crazy Liz]

For anyone else who wants to join:

The avatar!
http://www.seebs.net/images/avatar.gif
http://www.seebs.net/images/avatar.gif
http://www.seebs.net/images/avatar.jpg
http://www.seebs.net/images/avatar.png

Your choice of formats.

[apenman]

Your new avatar shows up fine on my computer.
Yep!! I got it working!

[freespirit2001]

Well, I'd like to consider projecting some thought and some pragmatic affirmation--- into the present moment in this post. Erwin opened this for us as a bridge for both non-christians and christians to post in.

I like the priveleges that a Christian Forum opens to us here for sharing knowledge and global cultural interests and networking with non-christians openly...

The global cultural and global spiritual differences.....

I don't like to think this forum here is limited by a situation of "groupthink" and politics that is motivated by a majority of over "Americanized" Christian behaviors. I think we, in America here, can be pretty divided ourselves as a God-fearing people...has anyone seen why we are sometimes known as the 12 tribes of American Politics---instead of the twelve religious ones----here in this country?(http://www.beliefnet.com/story/153/story_15355.html). Its a shame to see what we do with all the freedom we have in this country---the freedom of religion, the freedom of speech, the freedom of press, the freedom to do that we have here, without thinking of the cultural and spiritual divisions that we project on and at each other. If we ever have the good thought or the good thinking habits to consider what the global dimensions can offer us here--- what we are doing to them here?

I could consider sharing some quotes from Hemingway, Tom Peters, or Oscar Wilde, but I'm thinking more of the dimensions of what uncertainty orientations are, what power orientations are, what social orientations are, what time and efforts and goal orientations are in the movement of the Spirit in this forum, maybe even later here...

[Garnet2727]

*peeks in, waves, looks at a post that requires thinking...runs away*

[CaDan]

I could consider sharing some quotes from Hemingway, Tom Peters, or Oscar Wilde, but I'm thinking more of the dimensions of what uncertainty orientations are, what power orientations are, what social orientations are, what time and efforts and goal orientations are in the movement of the Spirit in this forum, maybe even later here...

The wind blows where it wills, and you hear the sound of it, but you do not know whence it comes or whither it goes . . . .

:)

[Swart]

Some local governments are experimenting with it. City Councils and the like.
Sounds great! Now all you need is some proportional representation.