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Erwin
9th December 2003, 05:36 AM
I've added a few new Faith Icons, as requested. If you find a better one, please let me know. :)

Christian http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Christian.gif
Non-Denominational http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Non-Denominational.gif
Protestant http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Protestant.gif
Catholic http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Catholic.gif
Orthodox http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Orthodox.gif
Messianic http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Messianic.gif
Other-Church http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Other-Church.gif
Judaism http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Judaism.gif
Muslim http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Muslim.gif
Pagan http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Pagan.gif
Buddhist http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Buddhist.gif
Hindu http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Hindu.gif
Other-Religion http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Other-Religion.gif
Agnostic http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Agnostic.gif
Atheist http://www.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/Atheist.gif

Erwin
9th December 2003, 05:38 AM
Other-Church is basically for members who belong to churches which do not conform to our Rule 6 definition of a Christian for the purposes of posting in the Christian-only forums. For example, Mormon members.

Erwin
9th December 2003, 05:51 AM
I also did change some of the previous icons, eg. Other-Religion, Agnostic, Atheist... refresh to see the new icons. :)

Shekinahs
9th December 2003, 11:35 AM
Ohhhhhh awesome. http://www.christianforums.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

You know I think you covered all the basis. I think ^_^

~ShekinahMoon~

Phileo
9th December 2003, 11:52 AM
http://kathy.to/emotes/gossip.gifYou are one busy man Erwin! You're doing a great job and a GOOD THING....
(ummm ya didn't hear it from me!
http://kathy.to/emotes/23_5_3.gif

WesleyJohn
9th December 2003, 02:15 PM
Yay! Erwin used my flame...

/me wonders where his 10,000 blessings are

:clap:

Peace,

WJ

Mylinkay Asdara
9th December 2003, 02:26 PM
Awesome job Erwin - YOU ROCK :)

Erwin
9th December 2003, 04:12 PM
Yay! Erwin used my flame...

/me wonders where his 10,000 blessings are

:clap:

Peace,

WJ
Hey, I forgot about that! I will have to remember to bless the others who posted the icons...

Matrona
10th December 2003, 05:22 AM
Hey, I forgot about that! I will have to remember to bless the others who posted the icons...
Dear Erwin,

I don't mean to be pushy about the blessings, but I came up with the Other-Church and Hindu icons. ;)

(Although, if you decide to give blessings for these icons, Nodeity deserves to split the Hindu blessings with me. He altered the Hindu icon I came up with, so that it would be the correct size and of a transparent background, so he deserves half the blessings for it if you ask me.)

Thanks! :)

Erwin
10th December 2003, 07:03 AM
You got 20,000 blessings! :)

Erwin
10th December 2003, 07:35 AM
If I've forgotten anyone, please post here. :)

Matrona
10th December 2003, 09:21 AM
Thanks, Erwin! :clap:

(You brightened my day after that nasty Anthropology exam I just took!)

Colabomb
10th December 2003, 10:27 AM
Would you consider adding another one?

Anglican?

I mean technically it would go under "Protestant" but we really don't fit in with the Rest of Protestantism.

We (most) believe in the episcopate, Church Tradition, etc.

Thanks, and God Bless!:)

Colabomb
10th December 2003, 03:45 PM
Would you consider adding another one?

Anglican?

I mean technically it would go under "Protestant" but we really don't fit in with the Rest of Protestantism.

We (most) believe in the episcopate, Church Tradition, etc.

Thanks, and God Bless!:)
I just had a thought, It could be a celtic Cross! :)

Matrona
10th December 2003, 04:18 PM
I just had a thought, It could be a celtic Cross! :)
Good idea. I tried to do a compass rose and a Canterbury cross this morning but neither turned out very well. I can try to do a Celtic cross, though.

Colabomb
10th December 2003, 04:26 PM
That would be COOL!!!

Is it gonna make it on the site?

(do you have any power? to do that?)

Matrona
10th December 2003, 04:38 PM
That would be COOL!!!

Is it gonna make it on the site?

(do you have any power? to do that?)
Ay, I am but a mere regular member... :) It's all up to Erwin, being as it's his site and he is the capo del tutti capi. (That's it, I've been watching too many mob movies...)

Anyway, here's what I just whipped up a minute ago... I don't know how to do a transparent background, but it is the right size:

http://wheelcheese.sandwich.net/lilceltc.jpg

What do you think?

Colabomb
10th December 2003, 05:06 PM
Ay, I am but a mere regular member... It's all up to Erwin, being as it's his site and he is the capo del tutti capi. (That's it, I've been watching too many mob movies...)

Anyway, here's what I just whipped up a minute ago... I don't know how to do a transparent background, but it is the right size:



What do you think?I think it is cool!

It would be rude to ask anything else! :)

Well, maybe darker? (I feel bad asking :( ) Sorry:( (don't go to too much trouble)

Now, Erwin, can we?

I would be thankful! :)

Matrona
10th December 2003, 05:34 PM
Well, maybe darker? (I feel bad asking :( ) Sorry:( (don't go to too much trouble)
No problem. Is this better? I used darker greys.

http://wheelcheese.sandwich.net/lilcelt2.jpg

Colabomb
10th December 2003, 05:40 PM
No problem. Is this better? I used darker greys.


Yep! :)

Thank you very much!!!!

You shall be repped! :)

Erwin, can we do it please? I would be Thrilled!!

Colabomb
10th December 2003, 05:45 PM
Yep! :)

Thank you very much!!!!

You shall be repped! :)

Erwin, can we do it please? I would be Thrilled!!
Unfortunately I gotta spread around first...

Erwin
11th December 2003, 06:16 AM
No problem. Is this better? I used darker greys.

http://wheelcheese.sandwich.net/lilcelt2.jpg
Looks awesome! :) Can you make it a transparent gif instead? ;)

Colabomb
11th December 2003, 10:36 AM
Looks awesome! :) Can you make it a transparent gif instead? ;)
Are you gonna do it Erwin???

Pretty Please! :)

Matrona
11th December 2003, 01:48 PM
Can you make it a transparent gif instead? ;)
Done and done! :) Finally figured out how to do transparent backgrounds.

http://wheelcheese.sandwich.net/lilcelt2.gif

agirlforechrist
11th December 2003, 02:29 PM
hi people um um do u guys know how too get in the chats i lost all of my favrites last week

emerald Dragon
11th December 2003, 03:32 PM
Since Mormonism seems to be such a large contention on this site, and many people seem to be discussing it, why make an icon for them? I mean, you have one for Catholic, which is one division of the Christian faith.

Just a thought.

WesleyJohn
11th December 2003, 03:44 PM
Mormonism and Jehovah's Witness would fall under Other-Church, as they are not part of Orthodox Christianity and are considered by many to be a cult. As such, they are not allowed to post in Christian-Only fora, but may participate in any of the Open fora.

Peace,

WJ

Matrona
11th December 2003, 04:12 PM
Mormonism and Jehovah's Witness would fall under Other-Church, as they are not part of Orthodox Christianity
Eh, you might want to change that to "orthodox Christianity". Big-O Orthodox refers to the specific Orthodox Church, sometimes called the Eastern Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, or Antiochian Orthodox. Little-o "orthodox" simply refers to mainstream Christianity in general. :)

I think that the reason LDS and JW are regarded as being outside orthodox Christianity is not so much about their perceived "cult-like" properties, but because they do not accept the Trinity, along with other teachings considered basic by other Christian traditions. For instance, LDS and JW baptisms are not recognized as valid by any mainstream Christian church. LDS only baptises in the name of Jesus Christ instead of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which is the only valid Christian baptism.

Colabomb
11th December 2003, 04:31 PM
Done and done! :) Finally figured out how to do transparent backgrounds.

YAY!!!!

THANKS!!!

Would Erwin be so kind to do it?

Thank you!

WesleyJohn
11th December 2003, 04:52 PM
I apologize if my usage of capital letters offended you. I do however stand by my usage of a capital O to refer to Orthodox Christianity--which I believe is MUCH larger than Eastern Orthodoxy or Roman Catholocism or Protestantism.

Also, when I refer to something as a cult, I am referring to its rejection of Orthodoxy. For instance, I would consider Unitarians a cult not because they are cult-like, but because they reject the Trinity.

I'm sure that made it as clear as mud for all who might read... :clap:

May the Peace of Christ be with you,

WJ

emerald Dragon
11th December 2003, 05:42 PM
LDS only baptises in the name of Jesus Christ instead of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, which is the only valid Christian baptism.
Sadly, you are grossly misinformed. Their is a set prayer that LDS priesthood holders have to say when baptizing soemone, and it states "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."

LDS baptisms are with the names of all three.

Matrona
11th December 2003, 05:49 PM
I apologize if my usage of capital letters offended you. I do however stand by my usage of a capital O to refer to Orthodox Christianity--which I believe is MUCH larger than Eastern Orthodoxy or Roman Catholocism or Protestantism.
We Orthodox refer to what I think is a similar concept to what you refer to(since we believe salvation is not wholly restricted to Orthodoxy), but we usually just call it "the Body of Christ" to avoid confusion.

The reason we try to get people to be careful with the word "orthodox" is because we have enough trouble with our name as it is. Call us Eastern Orthodox, people think we're a bunch of Asians. Call us Greek Orthodox, people think we're only for Greeks. Call us Orthodox, people think we're Jewish. After all of that, you can just call me frustrated! (Or call me Ishmael. :))

Also, when I refer to something as a cult, I am referring to its rejection of Orthodoxy. For instance, I would consider Unitarians a cult not because they are cult-like, but because they reject the Trinity.
Unitarians would be included under "other-church" as well, I think.

Still, it's better to use language that makes yourself clearly understood the first time so you don't have the Orthodox Church's problem--constantly having to explain who you are!

Matrona
11th December 2003, 05:52 PM
Sadly, you are grossly misinformed. Their is a set prayer that LDS priesthood holders have to say when baptizing soemone, and it states "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."
My sister was baptized Mormon as an adult, and that is NOT what she told me.

She has since left LDS so I can't exactly ask her about what you said, though.

emerald Dragon
12th December 2003, 10:11 AM
I apologize for this-I do not mean to offend.

But, I am a priest in the Church (16 to 18 years old hold this office), and I have attended several baptisms, and have the authority to baptize, and have learned that the prayer for baptism is as follows:

"[baptizee's full name], having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize thee in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, amen."

If it is not said like this completely, or if the person is not FULLY submerged in the water, they have to be re-baptized, right there. There are two witnesses to ensure that this occurs correctly.

Colabomb
12th December 2003, 10:20 AM
I apologize for this-I do not mean to offend.

But, I am a priest in the Church (16 to 18 years old hold this office), and I have attended several baptisms, and have the authority to baptize, and have learned that the prayer for baptism is as follows:

"[baptizee's full name], having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize thee in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, amen."

If it is not said like this completely, or if the person is not FULLY submerged in the water, they have to be re-baptized, right there. There are two witnesses to ensure that this occurs correctly.
You are a mormon Priest?

emerald Dragon
12th December 2003, 10:36 AM
A priest in the Mormon Church is a member of the Aaronic priesthood, and is bestowed on worthy males between the ages of 16 and 18, and their duties are to help out the Melchiezedic Priesthood, bless and pass the Sacrament (the bread and water representing the body and blood of Christ), and to baptize.

I am 17, and have the authority to do such acts, but only with proper worthiness, and permission.

Colabomb
12th December 2003, 01:08 PM
Erwin, you gonna do the Anglican Icon?

Blessedone_74
12th December 2003, 01:27 PM
if the person is not FULLY submerged in the water, they have to be re-baptized, right there. There are two witnesses to ensure that this occurs correctly.
This happend to me!! My elbow was sticking out and I had to go under again. :) It was kinda funny, some one at my church even took a photo of me with my elbow sticking out of the water :D
But the second time around I went all the way under!!!

Matrona
12th December 2003, 01:37 PM
Erwin, you gonna do the Anglican Icon?
You might want to wait for him to get around to reading this thread again. :)

JeffreyLloyd
12th December 2003, 01:48 PM
Erwin, you gonna do the Anglican Icon?

Anglican is covered with Protestant or Christian icon. :)

Colabomb
12th December 2003, 03:37 PM
Anglican is covered with Protestant or Christian icon. :)
Technically, but we are different from most protestants.

We believe (most anyway) in the Episcopate, the Real Presence in the Eucharist, and in Church Tradition.

We stand alone in Protestantism.

DJ B.K.
12th December 2003, 06:09 PM
This is only going to lead to every denomination wanting their own icon. I personally don't see why Anglicans need their own icon, but whatever. :|

Colabomb
12th December 2003, 08:03 PM
This is only going to lead to every denomination wanting their own icon. I personally don't see why Anglicans need their own icon, but whatever. :|Baptists and Pentecostals agree that The Eucharist is only Symbolic.

Most Anglicans believe that the Eucharist is Christ.

Baptists and Pentecostals agree that the Episcopate is not a biblical form of Church government.

Most Anglicans believe that Bishops are the Successors of the Apostles. We also believe that this is taught clearly in Scripture and practiced in the Church since the beginning.

Baptists and Pentecostals agree that Scripture is the Sole Rule of Faith and Doctrine.

Most Anglicans believe that Church Tradition is authoritative as long as it does not counter Scripture.

Baptists and Pentecostals (most) agree that Paedobaptism is wrong.

Most Anglicans believe that Children are to be Baptized. (Presbetyrians also believe this as well)

Most Baptists and Pentecostals agree that Baptism is not Necessary for Salvation.

Most Anglicans believe that Baptism is Clearly taught as necessary for Salvation in the Holy Scriptures.


Although we are called "protestant" we stand alone in the group.

There are a few Minor differences in the other groups (no offense intended) but the differences between Anglicanism and other protestants are very Large, and very outstanding.


We are more Catholic/Orthodox than Protestant, but we do not fit completely with Catholics or Orthodox.


(I used Baptist and Pentecostals because they are a good representative.)

God Bless! :)

Annabel Lee
12th December 2003, 08:11 PM
I agree Colabomb,
Also they broke away from the Catholic Church for entirely different reasons.
They were never a part of the Luther Protestant movement, as far I know.

Colabomb
12th December 2003, 08:16 PM
Cramner may have been influenced some by Luther's teachings (I am not a huge fan of Luther by the way), but yes, Anglicanism is its own movement.

Colabomb
12th December 2003, 08:19 PM
It could also be argued (and I agree) that Anglicanism can be traced to the 300's.

The Church was in England in the 300's. The Church in England was not under Rome's Authority until the 600's. I believe that Modern Anglicanism was a return to the English Church of the 300's.

BUT, that is contested by some, including other Anglicans.

Matrona
12th December 2003, 08:57 PM
I don't think it would get out of hand if just a few of the major Protestant denominations had their own icons. As long as Erwin doesn't mind and CF's software can handle it, I don't see why not. After all, some 85% of Protestants belong to a certain 12 denominations (can't remember which ones they are, but I'd wager Anglican is one of them).

christian mormon
13th December 2003, 01:15 AM
I wish there was a mormon icon-it would say

LDS

Matrona
13th December 2003, 02:00 AM
I wish there was a mormon icon-it would say

LDS
There's already an icon for mormons; it's the Other-Church icon. This icon is basically for religions that are "Christian" in something of an academic sense, in that they are oriented around the teachings of Jesus Christ, but are not orthodox in belief, doctrine, or practice, at least not to the point where they can affirm belief in the Nicene Creed.

christian mormon
13th December 2003, 12:30 PM
may be you can go to the websites:

www dot lds dot org
www dot mormon dot com

and point out where we teach about jesus being the savior

JeffreyLloyd
13th December 2003, 01:33 PM
[noco]

Matrona
13th December 2003, 05:01 PM
may be you can go to the websites:

www dot lds dot org
www dot mormon dot com

and point out where we teach about jesus being the savior
LDS does not believe in the Nicene Creed, with or without the filioque, and therefore is not Christian. You can even invoke "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" as much as you want but that doesn't change the fact that LDS does not recognize the holy, eternal, consubstantial and life-creating Trinity, three Persons of one Essence, and is therefore not properly called Christian.

I know good and well what LDS teaches, my sister was one and she tried to convert me with some of her missionary friends. I was a weak Christian at the time but the Lord gave me strength. :prayer:

Shekinahs
13th December 2003, 05:03 PM
Most Anglicans believe that Baptism is Clearly taught as necessary for Salvation in the Holy Scriptures.



Where in the scriptures?

Matrona
13th December 2003, 05:06 PM
Where in the scriptures?John 3:5.

To be clear, I must mention that I am Orthodox, and that while we believe that baptism is necessary for salvation, our church has always taken the view that God's mercy and grace extends to those who did not get a chance to be baptised.

Colabomb
13th December 2003, 06:32 PM
Where in the scriptures?
For one Acts 2:38

Shekinahs
13th December 2003, 07:21 PM
For one Acts 2:38
Blessings,

Well JESUS said in LUke 24:45-17 He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

All one needs for their forgiveness is to repent of their sins.

Acts 10:43
All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

Acts 13:38-39
Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses.

Belief in Christ and the repenting of sins is all we need for the forgiveness of sins. Baptizing (as least a water baptism) is a physical ritual. It is an important Christian ritual this is true but being dunked under water or sprinkled with water can not get your sins forgiven. It is a testament of your commitment to Christ. But belief and confession is of the heart which is what God is concerned about. God did away with the necessary of ritual for atonement. Rituals are wonderful and I believe in the beauty of them and I LOVE them and I believe they help the Christian in their walk but I understand very well they are not NEEDED for the atonement of sins. Christ died on the cross. He did all the work for us so to say we can not have the forgiveness of our sins unless we do a ritual of our own denouces the work of the cross. We do not need a baptism for our atonement any more than we need to make a grain offering. But if we did want to have a grain offering (which is perfectly fine) it would only be symbolic. Not having one would not cause your sins to not be forgiven any more than not being baptized.

~ShekinahMoon~

Shekinahs
13th December 2003, 07:24 PM
As the old deacons would say about baptism.

"If you go down a sinner you just come up a wet sinner".

^_^ ^_^ ^_^

DJ B.K.
13th December 2003, 07:39 PM
:topic:

This is not the place for a debate!

Colabomb
13th December 2003, 08:04 PM
Blessings,

Well JESUS said in LUke 24:45-17
All one needs for their forgiveness is to repent of their sins.

Acts 10:43

Acts 13:38-39

Belief in Christ and the repenting of sins is all we need for the forgiveness of sins. Baptizing (as least a water baptism) is a physical ritual. It is an important Christian ritual this is true but being dunked under water or sprinkled with water can not get your sins forgiven. It is a testament of your commitment to Christ. But belief and confession is of the heart which is what God is concerned about. God did away with the necessary of ritual for atonement. Rituals are wonderful and I believe in the beauty of them and I LOVE them and I believe they help the Christian in their walk but I understand very well they are not NEEDED for the atonement of sins. Christ died on the cross. He did all the work for us so to say we can not have the forgiveness of our sins unless we do a ritual of our own denouces the work of the cross. We do not need a baptism for our atonement any more than we need to make a grain offering. But if we did want to have a grain offering (which is perfectly fine) it would only be symbolic. Not having one would not cause your sins to not be forgiven any more than not being baptized.

~ShekinahMoon~
Cincy is right. This is not a place for debate.

I will respond once and then leave the Baptism discussion alone for now. Perhaps it can be discussed at a different place, but this is not the place.

We don't believe that the water is magic, the water does not wash away our sins. Baptism without faith in the Work of Christ is Worthless.

But how are we to throw away a commandment of Christ?

He did not say "Baptise them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, if they want to be Baptised and think it is a good Idea".

No, He made His intentions clear.

Acts 2:38 is clear, I will let it speak for itself.

Also, I would like to know how Baptism is anymore of a work, than Repentance, confession of Christ as Saviour, Confession of Sin, "The Sinner's Prayer" etc.

God Bless!

ps139
13th December 2003, 08:28 PM
Ive been following this thread, and if my opinion matters Id like to throw it out there - I see no reason why Anglicans cannot have their own icon, and seeing that one is already made it is a good idea, also because they are much much different than most other Protestant churches.

freespirit2001
13th December 2003, 08:36 PM
Thank you Shekinahs!

In every church the "Procedures of Salvation" and the "Substance of Doctrine" may be different but the Lord will work with us in other ways to keep us close with those we love---its God's plan by grace and its His gift of faith to us....I also think of the Lord moving others we care for through "synergism" ---the active motivating force of Holy Spirit.

I realize this is an announcement forum...I just wanted to thank Shekinahs again for her note about other faiths in general...and that I can continue this discussion in other forums.... freespirit

AngelAmidala
13th December 2003, 09:16 PM
Admin Hat On

Okay folks...threads in this forum are started mainly to annouce new changes and/or features to Christian Forums.

They are not threads started by Erwin just for fun to debate or have any other sort of discussion (except maybe further suggestions to make it better and/or messages about bugs in changes he's made).

A lot of what I have seen in this thread are theological discussions that do NOT belong in an Annoucements thread and would be best suited for a discussion in any of our forums.

So here's the deal.

If you want to further discuss something someone posted in this thread, feel free to start a new thread somewhere more appropriate.

If you want to suggest additional faith icons, there is a thread in the Suggestions forum. You could probably search for "icons" or "faith icons" and find it. It's got at least 60 posts in it. Post there. It'll keep all the suggestions in one area.

Erwin has asked that the debate and theological discussion stay out of this thread as it is not the appropriate place. I am asking this again. I am choosing at this time NOT to shut down this thread, but will if the request continues to go ignored.

Thank you for your time. :)

Admin Hat Off

Colabomb
14th December 2003, 08:56 AM
Could you direct me to the correct forum? To request an Anglican Icon?

d0c markus
14th December 2003, 03:16 PM
mormon icons: though i dont subscribe to mormonism.

http://members.shaw.ca/gwhamon/icons/angel.ico the angel macaroni rather moroni to big or no? you Like?

:rolleyes:

Matrona
14th December 2003, 04:08 PM
mormon icons: though i dont subscribe to mormonism.The icons need to be 16 x 16.

Also, LDS already has its own icon, the one for Other-Church, which is for all people belonging to churches which do not adhere to the Nicene Creed and are therefore not Christian.

Edited to add: I believe I can say Mormons are not Christian because they're NOT Christian according to Rule 6, which establishes the Nicene Creed as the criterion for being called a Christian here. So unless you want to also accuse Rule 6 of breaking Rule 1... ;) ...I'm not doing anything wrong.

d0c markus
14th December 2003, 04:52 PM
The icons need to be 16 x 16.

Also, LDS already has its own icon, the one for Other-Church, which is for all people belonging to churches which do not adhere to the Nicene Creed and are therefore not Christian.
i just saw that and posted it here.. i dunno how to measure if its 16x16, i just think it would be better to make an icon for mormons, "other-church" is to general i like to know where someone is coming from, but thats myself.

WesleyJohn
14th December 2003, 06:23 PM
If you would like to make a suggestion, I think you should post in the "Suggestions, Bugs, and Help" forum.

Peace,

WJ

d0c markus
14th December 2003, 06:24 PM
why? this thread is already on the subject.

WesleyJohn
14th December 2003, 06:27 PM
Please go back and read AngelAmidala's post above. This is an announcements forum for Erwin to post announcements to us, not a suggestions forum for us to discuss how the site is run. Those posts should go in the "Suggestions, Bugs, and Help" forum.

Colabomb asked what the appropriate forum would be, and I answered his question.

I even did a little more research for you and found the appropriate thread...it's titled "huh?..." and is located here: www.christianforums.com/t69807

Peace,

WJ

Annabel Lee
14th December 2003, 06:55 PM
The icons need to be 16 x 16.

Also, LDS already has its own icon, the one for Other-Church, which is for all people belonging to churches which do not adhere to the Nicene Creed and are therefore not Christian.

According to YOU, they are not Christian. THEY call themselves Christian.

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WesleyJohn
14th December 2003, 07:05 PM
/me starts a countdown to see how long until the padlock appears...

Can't we all just follow instructions? Please read AngelAmidala's post above...this is NOT a debate thread.

Peace,

WJ

d0c markus
14th December 2003, 07:10 PM
whose debating?

d0c markus
14th December 2003, 07:12 PM
According to YOU, they are not Christian. THEY call themselves Christian.

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hmm. Nicene creed in accordance to forum rules. :wave: peace

kyteroo
14th December 2003, 09:04 PM
According to the Holy Bible, a believer is one who believes that Jesus died on the Cross for their sins. A believer has a relationship with Jesus Christ. It does not say anywhere's that to be a believer or a christian, one has to believe in the Nicene creed. Furthermore, the Nicene Creed is not even bible verses taken out of the bible. It is theology that man has decided that the bible says. It is a debatable theology because it's wording is not G-d breathed words - it is not words that can be added to the bible. Those words weren't written by the original authors of the bible is what I mean.

AngelAmidala
14th December 2003, 10:58 PM
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Thank you WesleyJohn for trying to keep the continued theological discussion and stuff from progressing. And thank you also for posting a link to the specific thread where others could post their suggestions about the faith icons.

Thank you to those who refrained from continuing the debating after I asked. I am glad to know to get people to listen, I don't always have to type in size 7 font.

Thank you to those who shared with members the rules of Christian Forums...to remind people what is right and what is not in here and other areas of CF. I am happy that we have such rule-minded members who also take the time to report posts that break those forum rules.

Thank you to all those who are continually open about their thoughts about the forum in general and any forum changes Erwin makes.

And even though you may not think it, I do thank you for the theological discussions that have been almost flame-free...even though they don't exactly belong here.

With all that said, I'm now temporarily closing this thread...pending review by TheBear (my co-forum moderator here) and Erwin (who's currently doing his final exams).

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Erwin
15th December 2003, 06:33 PM
I will make an icon for Anglicans once I find time. :)

I will keep this thread closed - feel free to open another one in the Suggestions forum for suggestions.