Dr Michael Brown on Rabbinic Judaism

[JewishHeart]

http://www.icnministries.org/Articles/rabtrad/rabtrad.doc

[Henaynei]

:) ancient history :) (16 years old - 1988)

Dr Brown has no love for Rabbinic Judaism, messianic or otherwise.......

[simchat_torah]

Doc Brown, while very familiar with Rabbinic Judaism, has removed himself from all forms of Judaism for quite some time. He is a Jewish christian... he does not even adhere to Messianic Judaism. He is probably the worst source to turn to on subjects that are in question within MJ'ism.

-yafet

[simchat_torah]

When Doc Brown makes statements like these:Frankly, when I pray the Siddur during worship services, or when I intensively study the Talmud or the Legal Codes from which many of the traditions come, I am keenly aware of the fact that rabbinic Judaism is a religion alien to the New Covenant faith. I can't help but think he is either 100% ignorant (which to me obviously isn't the case) or is purposefully being deceptive.

makes me sick.

[Talmidah]

Is he the one that debated with Rabbi Singer a few years ago?

[simchat_torah]

Yes.

[simchat_torah]

Actually, I think it was Rabbi David Blumofe

[Talmidah]

Really? OK, I guess I was mistaken, I was thinking I'd heard a debate btwn Michael Brown & Tovia Singer.

[ShirChadash]

I didn't even read it. I just sensed that most likely it was from an unbalanced source. :prayer:

[Henaynei]

Dr Brown did do a debate wit a Rabbinic Rabbi several years ago:
1) Dr Brown was more favorable toward MJism at the time
2) it was on a video
3) I don't *think* it was with Tovia Singer.....

[simchat_torah]

Like I said, it was Rabbi David Blumofe
you can view the video tape for sale at the link here:
http://theolivetree.ieasysite.com/_ihnextras/bvc2/productinfo.aspx?productid=170&categoryid=23&startpage=1

[ShirChadash]

Dr Brown did do a debate wit a Rabbinic Rabbi several years ago:
1) Dr Brown was more favorable toward MJism at the time
2) it was on a video
3) I don't *think* it was with Tovia Singer.....
I saw this when i was looking up more about Michael Brown:


TODAY, JULY 8th, 2004, 2-5pm at www.libertybroadcasting.com

Rabbi Shmuley Broadcasts His Nationally Syndicated Radio Talk Show Live =
from

The Fire School of Ministry in North Carolina

In a history-setting precedent, Rabbi Shmuley becomes one of the first =
orthodox Rabbis ever to lecture to Christian Missionaries as to why it =
is 'immoral' to convert Jews to Christianity

The Show will be Done Live in front of a Missionary Student Audience at =
the Fire School with Dr. Michael Brown as Shmuley's Guest in heated =
debate

Rabbi Shmuley has been an outspoken opponent of Christian proselatizing =
efforts aimed at Jews. He has debated the issue in front of thousands of =
people with Dr. Michael Brown, a scholar and Jewish believer in Jesus =
who is Founder of the Fire School of Ministry in North Carolina. After =
several high-profile and fiery debates in New York and Dallas, Dr. Brown =
graciously invited Rabbi Shmuley to address the 150 students from 15 =
nations at the Fire school who are trained to go out as missionaries all =
over the world. Rabbi Shmuley accepted and said that he would like to =
lecture on the growing political closeness of the Jewish and Christian =
communities, and how such closeness is undermined by what Rabbi Boteach =
refers to as 'immoral and misguided' efforts to target Jews for =
conversion. Dr. Brown agreed for Rabbi Boteach to lecture on that =
controversial issue to his students.

Rabbi Shmuley commented, "Mike Brown and I have gone real hard after =
each other in several public debates. But amazingly, through all these =
exchanges we have become friends, and it is a friendship that I value. =
He is brave indeed to have invited me to address his students about why =
they should spread Christianity only among Christians and never among =
Jews. After all, my message to his students goes against everything he =
is trying to teach them.=20

"I am a well known defender and admirer of evangelical Christians and =
feel greatly inspired by their sincere committment to a G-dly life and =
their love for America. But I object strongly to any efforts whatsoever =
to convert Jews to Christianity. I will be telling Mike's students why =
Jews must find G-d through their own Jewish heritage, just as Christians =
find G-d through their traditions. I respect Mike's courage for giving =
me this opportunity of sharing with his students the Jewish communities =
strong abhorrence of missionary efforts against Jews, and I am very =
grateful for his friendship, even as we continue to argue heatedly over =
this most important issue."

Rabbi Shmuley is currently working on a book exploring the Jewishness of =
Jesus.
Could this be the one you meant, Tal? Or Henny?
from this link:
http://shamash3.shamash.org/tanach/tanach/commentary/oxford-judaism/040708

[Talmidah]

I saw this when i was looking up more about Michael Brown:

Could this be the one you meant, Tal? Or Henny?
from this link:
http://shamash3.shamash.org/tanach/tanach/commentary/oxford-judaism/040708
The one I am thinking about took place on Sid Roth's show. I'm sure S_T is right and I was just mistaken about which rabbi it was...it was quite awhile back that I heard it.

[Henaynei]

The one I am thinking about took place on Sid Roth's show. I'm sure S_T is right and I was just mistaken about which rabbi it was...it was quite awhile back that I heard it. Yes, S_T is right - the video was done some 15+ years ago ;)

[simchat_torah]

I'm sure S_T is right
Yes, S_T is right -
Ahhh... I doubt I'll ever tire of hearing that one ;)

Now, if only I could get my wife to say that once in awhile... hehehe.

jk

[ShirChadash]

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Ahhh... I doubt I'll ever tire of hearing that one ;)

Now, if only I could get my wife to say that once in awhile... hehehe.

jk



buuuuuut, when does she ever call you S_T? ;)

[simchat_torah]

well, its about the same number of times as pigs fly...

so none I suppose ;)

[ShirChadash]

well, its about the same number of times as pigs fly...

so none I suppose ;)
:D