Ever hear of AIM?

[Sephania]

Association of Independant Messianics

http://www.aim-messianics.org/

[Sephania]

Anyone know what the "Two houses of Israel" is ?

[Henaynei]

yes, they are Sacred Namers and "Ephriamites"

[Henaynei]

Anyone know what the "Two houses of Israel" is ? Also known as Ephriamites - see info here (http://www.mjaa.org/biblicaljudaism/EphraimiteError.pdf)- or shorter version here (http://www.mjaa.org/biblicaljudaism/EphraimiteErrorSummary.html)

[Sephania]

Hmm, so much, ah , refuge, I have to get my waders out me thinks!

[PaladinGirl]

LOL! I thought you was talking about AOL Instant Messenger when I saw your post! Sorry!

[Sephania]

:)

[Sephania]

So, Henaynei, everything they have to say shouldn't be believed or only where it shows blatant replacement theology ( I think that is what they are known for). ?

[Henaynei]

So, Henaynei, everything they have to say shouldn't be believed or only where it shows blatant replacement theology ( I think that is what they are known for). ? The premise of their union is the commonality of their unity in believing replacement theology doctrine. *Personally* I eschew any teachings from sites and organizations whose foundation is in such error. How can you build truth on the basis of error?? They, because they so believe and see no error in it, can not help but have this doctrine influence their teachings, however obliquely.....

There are numreous sites and sources from which to learn truth without having to wade through aggregious error to find it.

[Sephania]

I guess it all depends on if you are a sheep or goat! :)

[gomer II]

Actually the "Two House Movement" rejects Replacement Theology unequivocally. They maintain that since the time of Yeshua, Israel is made up of both Jew and Gentile believers. See Ephesians chapter 2.

[Peguero]

hello brethens?

[debi b]

Statement of Belief

GUIDING PRINCIPLES
The guiding principles of our Biblical faith, practice, and walk are found in the Shema of Devarim/Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and the Lord’s Prayer of Mattityahu/Matthew 6:9-13

THE HOLY SCRIPTURES
The Holy Scriptures or Bible, Genesis-Revelation, comprises the inspired, infallible, Word of God as revealed in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts. The Bible must be our final authority for faith, doctrine, and practice. While the Bible has been traditionally divided into what are commonly known as the Old and New Testaments, or the Tanakh/Old Covenant and Renewed Covenant/B’rit Chadashah, we do not believe that the New Testament replaces the Old Testament or that the Old Testament is “superior” to the New Testament.

THE ELECT
Yahweh has only one chosen people or group of elect, known as the Body of Messiah or kahal/ekklesia. This assembly/congregation is the Israel of God composed of all who are of faith in Messiah Yeshua, both the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and those who are not. All are citizens of our Heavenly Father’s Commonwealth of Israel.
We totally disavow the widespread notion that God has two groups of elect: Israel and “the Church.” We believe that Messiah’s mission was to come and restore the people of Israel, and all who might enjoin Israel, not “build” a separate “Church.” We believe that the teaching which says that Yahweh has two groups of elect has done considerable damage today and it is something we dedicate ourselves to repairing. In saying this, we denounce all forms of dispensational and replacement theology.

THE TORAH
All Believers are called to uphold Yahweh’s Eternal Torah or “Teaching” contained in the five Books of Moses: Bereisheet/Genesis, Shemot/Exodus, Vayikra/Leviticus, Bamidbar/Numbers, Devarim/Deuteronomy. These five books of Scripture give us the foundation for the rest of Scripture. By not understanding God’s fundamental guidelines contained in the Torah, we run the risk of misinterpreting many parts of the Bible, especially parts of the Renewed Covenant/New Testament where the Law is commented on.
Insomuch that we believe that the Torah is an eternal document, we do not believe that Messiah Yeshua came to abolish or do away with it. On the contrary, as the Living Word of God, Yeshua came to show us how to live Torah, as He was sinless and lived it without error, and He came in fulfillment of its sacrificial requirements. Yeshua is our example of how to properly follow God’s commandments. Disobedience to Torah is sin and is Yahweh’s holy standard for living.

THE MESSIANIC LIFESTYLE
We believe that all who know Messiah Yeshua as Lord are called to emulate His Torah-obedient lifestyle. We do not follow the Torah or observe Biblical commandments for salvation, but rather to be part of the holy and set-apart people that our Heavenly Father desires. While each Believer must be led of the Holy Spirit in his individual life, critical components of the Messianic lifestyle consistent with the life of Messiah are honoring the Sabbath/Shabbat, the Biblical feasts/appointed times/moedim, and eating Biblically kosher.

taken in part from http://www.aim-messianics.org/statementofbelief.html

[Henaynei]

It is true that the Ephriamites stoutly deny that their belief is replacement theology.

However, it is and it is know to be by mainstream MJism.