Inconsistency or misunderstanding or what?

[By Grace]

Gen 6:3 says "ADONAI said, 'My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.'" But later we find out that Noah lived for 950 years (Gen 9:29), and others also lived for hundreds of years (Gen 11:11-24, for example). Why the inconsistency?

[Netzari5730]

Gen 6:3 says "ADONAI said, 'My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.'" But later we find out that Noah lived for 950 years (Gen 9:29), and others also lived for hundreds of years (Gen 11:11-24, for example). Why the inconsistency?
it is said that the 120 years doesn't refer to the lifespan of a human, but the years left before humanity was to be destroyed by the flood at that time...

In Yeshua...
Netzari5730

[mjterry87]

I heard somewhere that the years were conted differently back then and people didn't really live for hundreds of years like the Torah says. Is that true? :scratch:

[Netzari5730]

I heard somewhere that the years were conted differently back then and people didn't really live for hundreds of years like the Torah says. Is that true? :scratch:
I am under the impression that they did actually live for hundreds of years. I have a friend who is into science, real science and not just anything said to be science. He told me that there was an outer atmosphere of water at that time which kept out most of the harmful solar rays which increase aging. also, because of the outer atmosphere, the air-pressure, I think, was greater and it too slowed the aging process, that it had to do with the oxygen content or something to that effect. And it also caused healing to occur more rapidly. He tried to explain it to me, but I didn't quite catch it.

In Yeshua...
Netzari5730

[By Grace]

I am under the impression that they did actually live for hundreds of years. I have a friend who is into science, real science and not just anything said to be science. He told me that there was an outer atmosphere of water at that time which kept out most of the harmful solar rays which increase aging. also, because of the outer atmosphere, the air-pressure, I think, was greater and it too slowed the aging process, that it had to do with the oxygen content or something to that effect. And it also caused healing to occur more rapidly. He tried to explain it to me, but I didn't quite catch it.

In Yeshua...
Netzari5730
That actually makes a lot of sense. That would explain why we feel better when we go to the beach--it's a lower altitude, so has higher air pressure.

I'm still not sure about the 120 years referring to the time until the Flood. I just don't see that in this verse, but maybe it's more obvious in the original language.

[WildCelt]

It has been demonstrated that the sun has a big part to play on aging (you can always tell those who have spent too much time in the sun--they look much older than they are). If there was a filter in the firmament, this would greatly reduce harmful UV rays, thus slowing aging as well.

[CharlesYTK]

A carful study of that passage in Genesis shows that this edict, I shall not contend with man forever for he is flesh, his years shall be 120" this is actually the proclamation of judgment, with Gods 120 year period of grace, time for all to repent. It is exactly 120 years to the day when the fountains of the earth are opened up and the flood takes place. As aside note, Noah's sons were bon after that pronouncement of Judgement, and before the carrying out of that judgment. This means that Noah was the last man to live from before the judment of the first age. From the time of the creation of Adam to the death of Noah, (Noah is the marker for the first age, is 2006 years according to the bible chronology. Next year, it will be 2006 years from the time of the birth of Yeshua, who is called the last Adam.

Another little connection to this. Abraham was born 1,948 years after Adam was created. Modern Israel (modern Abraham) was born 1,948 years after the birth of Yeshua.

Many things point to the beginnig of the Great Tribuation next year. Yeshua was born on the first day of the feast of Tabernales. (Tishri 15) This year on Tishri 15, tutoutalas the largest known near earth object will make its closest pass ever to the earth, apx 1.5 times the distance to the moon. It is 7 miles wide by 15 miles long and made up of toxic metals.

Lets have a great sukkot this year shall we.

Charles

[Yasatora]

A carful study of that passage in Genesis shows that this edict, I shall not contend with man forever for he is flesh, his years shall be 120" this is actually the proclamation of judgment, with Gods 120 year period of grace, time for all to repent. It is exactly 120 years to the day when the fountains of the earth are opened up and the flood takes place. As aside note, Noah's sons were bon after that pronouncement of Judgement, and before the carrying out of that judgment. This means that Noah was the last man to live from before the judment of the first age. From the time of the creation of Adam to the death of Noah, (Noah is the marker for the first age, is 2006 years according to the bible chronology. Next year, it will be 2006 years from the time of the birth of Yeshua, who is called the last Adam.

Another little connection to this. Abraham was born 1,948 years after Adam was created. Modern Israel (modern Abraham) was born 1,948 years after the birth of Yeshua.

Many things point to the beginnig of the Great Tribuation next year. Yeshua was born on the first day of the feast of Tabernales. (Tishri 15) This year on Tishri 15, tutoutalas the largest known near earth object will make its closest pass ever to the earth, apx 1.5 times the distance to the moon. It is 7 miles wide by 15 miles long and made up of toxic metals.

Lets have a great sukkot this year shall we.

Charles
I want to look it up on the internet and learn more about this largest known near earth object.

By the way, I found your tidbits fascinating.

[CharlesYTK]

Sorry,
I mispelled it didn't I . It is Toutatis.

Google it for Near earth Objects, NEO

Here is a link to a JPL site. Notice that they say the orbit is irratic and somewhat unpredictable because of its near passes to the earth. I have ben watching this one for nearly 10 years now because of its near pas on the first day of Sukkot. There is always a chance that this is for a reason. Revelation speaks of what seems to be "as a mountain on fire which is thrown to the earth (sea)" Perhaps? With this alignment of years and such I have thought it worth keeping an eye on. There are many sites on this mini planet now. There wasn't ten years ago. But this sight I believe has 3D models from satalite images.

http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroids/4179_Toutatis/toutatis.html

[Yasatora]

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db_shm?rec=4179

Found it!!!!!!!

[CharlesYTK]

The object that struck the earth in the past (the extinction event) was less than hal the size of this object. As Toutatis passes along its path it makes some near approaches to Jupiter, which disturbs its orbit, as does its near pass to the earth and its greatly oversized moon. These forces might serve to fracture toutatis along its narow mid-section, breaking it into two or three smalled pieces and thousands of small meteors. What then of its near approach? Could it be captured in the earths gravitational well?

Two intersting items intersect here as well. In the writings of the anients of Sumer, there is the belief that a large watery planet in our Solar system had a collision with the moon of another planet, "cleaving the watery serpent in twain" This story sems to be hidden or implied in the scriptures as well" Part of this watery giant took a new orbit and was joined by another smaller planet that became instead its moon. (earth and its moon) This its with the act that in Genesis God creates (out of nothing) all that there is and it becomes void (worthless and destroyed) and dark. The craters on mars and Jupiter and the moons there show that they were all bombarded from one side most likely in a sinle event, like an explosion. This may have been the event that tore the atmosphere away from Mars. Then God creates (renovates, creates from materials already previously make out of nothing) the earth and its atmosphere that we now live in. This explains many things like the antiquity of the earth and its life oms, their extinction and then thee relative recent repopulation by all new species including mankind. Anyway I digress! Sorry! Assume that there was this collision that I mentioned. New scientific models have proven that it the emptiness of space such a collision would create huge amounts of bebrise, which would take on their own orbital paths in and around the solar sytem, and not all in the standard orbital plane. Unlike billiard ball which are held to one plane as they bounce about after a break, these objects exist in a three dimentional system of gravitational forces that is nearly spherical. (Remember that Hale Bopp and many others come up from below our orbital plane and several of the planets themselves are not exactly on the plane. )And the model shows that given enough time nearly all the pieces will come together again in the same place (aproximately) at the same point in time, as all the orbit cycles converge. Before this final reconergence takes place there are cycles of clusters where many or just a few come to a near approximation. Anyway the model is pretty intersting. Where are we on this cycle?

[By Grace]

A carful study of that passage in Genesis shows that this edict, I shall not contend with man forever for he is flesh, his years shall be 120" this is actually the proclamation of judgment, with Gods 120 year period of grace, time for all to repent. It is exactly 120 years to the day when the fountains of the earth are opened up and the flood takes place.Thank you, that makes more sense.

As aside note, Noah's sons were bon after that pronouncement of Judgement, and before the carrying out of that judgment. This means that Noah was the last man to live from before the judment of the first age. From the time of the creation of Adam to the death of Noah, (Noah is the marker for the first age, is 2006 years according to the bible chronology. Next year, it will be 2006 years from the time of the birth of Yeshua, who is called the last Adam.

Another little connection to this. Abraham was born 1,948 years after Adam was created. Modern Israel (modern Abraham) was born 1,948 years after the birth of Yeshua. Am I reading this right? Was Abraham born before Noah died?

Many things point to the beginnig of the Great Tribuation next year. Yeshua was born on the first day of the feast of Tabernales. (Tishri 15) This year on Tishri 15, tutoutalas the largest known near earth object will make its closest pass ever to the earth, apx 1.5 times the distance to the moon. It is 7 miles wide by 15 miles long and made up of toxic metals.

Lets have a great sukkot this year shall we.

CharlesMaybe I'm reading these charts wrong, but it looks to me like the next close pass will be Sept 29 of THIS year, then not again until Nov 9, 2008.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/neo_ca?type=NEO;hmax=all;sort=name;sdir=ASC;tlim=future;dmax=0.1AU;max_rows=50;action=Display%20Table;show=1&from=100

Maybe you have Y'shua's birth year wrong?

Just curious...

edited to add: Sorry, I just noticed you DID say THIS year for the near pass, but yet you said the Great Trib. could start next year. Can you explain how you think the two might be connected?

[CharlesYTK]

By Grace.

Yes Noah was still alive when Abraham was born. Abraham was 58 years old when Noah died.

Yes I believe that Sept 29th this year is Tishi 15 on the Hebrew Calendar. Remember too that the Jewish day begins at sundown, not at midnight.

Yeshua's birth year was not 7 BC as was thought in the past. It was in 2 BC. Two things play into this. It was thought in the past that he was born about 7 to 4 BC because Herod the king was alive at his birth and then died in the year of an eclipse which is mentioned by Josephus I believe., Other historic records of the east place an eclipse in 4 BC. Only recently through computer technology and the repeating accuracy of the celestial bodies, it has been shown that there was a previously unrecorded full lunar eclipse right over Jerusalem Jan 9th 01 BC. (the year after the bith of Yeshua if I am right)
The second "witness" is that Cyrenius was governor and ordered the census which brought Joseph to Bethlehem. It was known that Cyrenius was governor in 7 BC.- to 4BC. Recent archeological evidence now shows that after a very brief interuption cyrenius was Governor again from 4 BC to 1 BC. All this says is that Yeshua could have been born in 2 BC as I suggest. But lets go further. If we go forward Yeshua would have begun his public ministry at age 30, which is the pattern established by Jewish law. His ministry was 3.5 years long and he was killed.( making him 3.5 yrs old at death) On passover. Almost every scholar places this year to have been either 32 AD or 33 AD. I believe the latter because in that year only (3) Passover, of the 15th was on Friday, the day of preparation and... the feast of first fruits which is on the "morrow after the sabbath in which the passover is killed" (Sunday) is on the third day after this crucificion. I realize that not all agree, because it is not 3 complete 24 hour periods. However in Jewish inclusive reckoning, time is not as fixed as we think, 24 hours is a day. To them, if something happened at the very end of a day, it still counts as a day. The scriptures say that he was raised on the third day, (the first day of the week)

Another look at 2 BC.

The feast of Tabernacles (sukkot) prophetically looks at the time when God dwells with us. Historically in the wilderness after exodus, in the future in the Millenal Kingdom, and in the days of Yeshua, when he dwelled among us and we beheld his glory. To be messiah, he would pretty much HAVE to be born during Tabernacles. In that year Tabernacles began on Sabbath. So you can see a beautiful picture forming here. Mary labors for hours or days, and then makes it to Bethlehem, the house of bread, (yeshua the bread of life?) and then at the close of the day, they need a place to stay, but no room anywhere, but they are given someones Sukkah (Tabernacle) to stay in, and at the very begining of Sabbath Yeshua is born, Lord of the Sabbath, and Mary rests from her Labor. The world travails and gives birth to Messiah.

Back to the interval for Israel. Israel became a nation by declaration of the UN on Nov 11th 1947. This was later ratified in May and Jewish independence declared on May 14th 1948. But Israel was declared a state and nation on Nov 11th 1947, which is before the Jewish New year. Also remember that when counting time from BC to AD there is no year zero. So on the Jewish calendar, which God gave us, it was 1,948 years from the birth of the last Adam, Yeshua, to the birth of Modern Abraham, (modern Israel).

Sorry this is so long.

[CharlesYTK]

edited to add: Sorry, I just noticed you DID say THIS year for the near pass, but yet you said the Great Trib. could start next year. Can you explain how you think the two might be connected?




First remember that the Jewish year begins in Sept-Oct, and not in January as the west recognises it. So I am saying after the beginning of the next Jewish year. Which will really be before Jan 1. However the efects of this tribulation may not be easily reognised in the beginning.

I believe that Noah stands as a marker for the length of the first age, as he is the last man to live from the age before the flood. From the creation of Adam to the death of Noah is 2006 years. As one age is ended another one is ushered in. Abraham markes this in part, because he begins the separation of a special nation of people. They overlap 58 years, rather than one ending and another beginning on the same day. Just as Messiah came and the Temple system stood another 37 years beore being torn down. They overlap a bit.

Since Yeshua is the last Adam, and modern Israel coming into existance ater 200 years of absence, at the same point in time as Abraham was born, they perhaps the overall 2006 year frame is also repeated. If so, that 2006 years runs out at the end of the feast days 2005. completing 2006 years of Jewish time. Concider also that Noah (the first age) died, 58 years after Abraham was born. If Israel is like modern Abraham, adding 58 years to this date brings you to the exact same date at the conlusion of the all feast days in 2005, as counting 2006 years from the birth of Yeshua. Too many things I think to be dismissed as coincidence.

Every thing is ripe or the tribulation. The correct nations are alligned and powers in place for this event. However it might take a single earth shaking event to kick it off. Toutatis may just be a celestial sign, like the star of Bethlehem, or it might be a world shaking event. I believe there are many things that indicate we are on borrowed time and Judgment is near. We should kep our eyes open and not fall asleep or turn away from what we are supposed to be doing.

[By Grace]

On passover. Almost every scholar places this year to have been either 32 AD or 33 AD. I believe the latter because in that year only (3) Passover, of the 15th was on Friday, the day of preparation and... the feast of first fruits which is on the "morrow after the sabbath in which the passover is killed" (Sunday) is on the third day after this crucificion. I realize that not all agree, because it is not 3 complete 24 hour periods. However in Jewish inclusive reckoning, time is not as fixed as we think, 24 hours is a day. To them, if something happened at the very end of a day, it still counts as a day. The scriptures say that he was raised on the third day, (the first day of the week)
But doesn't it say 3 days AND 3 nights? (Matt 12:40) Where is the 3rd night?

Another look at 2 BC.

The feast of Tabernacles (sukkot) prophetically looks at the time when God dwells with us. Historically in the wilderness after exodus, in the future in the Millenal Kingdom, and in the days of Yeshua, when he dwelled among us and we beheld his glory. To be messiah, he would pretty much HAVE to be born during Tabernacles. In that year Tabernacles began on Sabbath. So you can see a beautiful picture forming here. Mary labors for hours or days, and then makes it to Bethlehem, the house of bread, (yeshua the bread of life?) and then at the close of the day, they need a place to stay, but no room anywhere, but they are given someones Sukkah (Tabernacle) to stay in, and at the very begining of Sabbath Yeshua is born, Lord of the Sabbath, and Mary rests from her Labor. The world travails and gives birth to Messiah.

Not only that, but wouldn't He, the Light of the world, have been conceived around Hannukah, the Festival of Lights? (Unless that was one of the longer years?) If I counted right, the 1st day of Tabernacles is exactly 40 weeks after the 7th day of Hannukah. (However, it's 38 weeks from the point of conception for a normal pregnancy, since conception is when the egg is actually fertilized. So if you go by those dates, Y'shua wouldn't have actually been conceived until 2 weeks later.)

Very interesting...

[Yasatora]

Let's take your thinking one step further into the land of supposition.

Suppose

The catastrophe happens "stone made without hands" on the Feast of Tabernacles lands on earth. Being 15 x 8 approx miles would make a crater about 40 miles around. It would create an earthquake...ripple effect... for hundreds of miles around. If it also lands on or close to one of the earthquake faults lines then it could set in motion further earthquakes and aftershocks.

Now back to the prophecy of the "stone made without hands". It is to land at the feet of the image. Just for poetic imagery, let's say that it lands on the land shaped like a foot. Wipes out a serious portion, especially if there is a religious gathering, where you have believers gather from all over the world like Jubilee '84. Not that any of this is going to happen, but it would change the face of prophecy and we would have to go back and "prophecy again" with a new understanding of prophecy.

Let's imagine because of the toxic effect that comes with this asteroid, there is over one third of the population wiped out.

By the spring of the next year, from Jerusalem come two witnesses who are preaching a new understanding of prophecy in light of scripture and how the face of the world and man has changed.

Now you can see the end events come rapidly and within three and one-half years, since there is only one Holy place left standing, it is the truly one place where the world of religions focus.

Good for the makings of a movie.

[Yasatora]

I heard somewhere that the years were conted differently back then and people didn't really live for hundreds of years like the Torah says. Is that true? :scratch:
By faith, we can trust God and His Word. I beleive people lived that long back then before sin and it's distructive forces ate away at our life forces.

[Yasatora]

I calculated that astroid is moving aprox 27,360 miles/hr. We would definitely feel that impact.

[CharlesYTK]

Grace: But doesn't it say 3 days AND 3 nights? (Matt 12:40) Where is the 3rd night?

Charles :Lets look first at these:

LK 24:45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. [46] He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, [47] and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

AC 10:39 "We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a tree, [40] but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen.

1CO 15:3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance*: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, [4] that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, [5] and that he appeared to Peter,* and then to the Twelve.

In Jewish inclusive reckoning a part of a thing counts as the entire thing. If I take a bite out of an apple, then I ate the apple. A Child who is 18 months old is said to be in his second year. (we would say they are one year old because he has not yet completed the entire 365 days of the fist year.

So here are the days of the death. Killed on Friday at 3pm, leaving only three hours before the beginning of Sabbath. Was he dead on Friday? Yes, not for the whole day, but by Hebraic understanding yes, he was dead on Friday. And also on Sabbath. At the close of Sabbath he was still in the grave, 6pm started the next day, Sunday. He remained in the tomb until about the break of day and then rose.

So the days look like this
Friday from 3pm to 6 Pm = the first day

Sabbath all day = the second day

Sunday 6 Pm till dawn = the third day. He rose on the third day. Not after three days, not after 72 hours. Just on the third day. Why three days?

The one verse that sems diferent was before the event when Yeshua said [40] For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

This is a figurative comparison, drawing a similarity by example of one dead and then alive again, a sign of Gods redemptive power. It is not neccessary to think it to be a litteral prophecy.

Grace: Not only that, but wouldn't He, the Light of the world, have been conceived around Hannukah, the Festival of Lights? (Unless that was one of the longer years?) If I counted right, the 1st day of Tabernacles is exactly 40 weeks after the 7th day of Hannukah. (However, it's 38 weeks from the point of conception for a normal pregnancy, since conception is when the egg is actually fertilized. So if you go by those dates, Y'shua wouldn't have actually been conceived until 2 weeks later.)

Very interesting.

Charles: The connection of the conception to Channukah just the result of looking for Christ in everything. Channukah is not one of the Moedim, (appointed feasts or messiainic feasts) of Leviticus. It is a historical feast connected only to the delivereance of Israel from their mortal enemy of that time. It might be true that the conception took place about that time, but this in not founded in the prophetic meaning of the feast daysin any way.

Here is another pointer to the time of the birth. As I pointed out a Jewish Rabbi would train and then begin his public ministry at age 30. You can be sure that Yeshua was anxious to begin his ministry. The last thing that happens is the Mikvah and anointing. Yeshua was baptised at the time of his 30th birthday. And then anointed immediately by the spirit. We know that it was the season as John had been preaching the very message of repentence that is prescribed for Yom Kippur. Even the ery scriptures "Prepare ye a path in the wilderness, make straight paths for him for the ay of the Lord is at hand. After this Mikvah Yeshua goes into the desert for 40 days and then upon returning goes to his local synagogue to preach his first sermon. He is honored by being called on to read, a typical honor for a mans birthday and espeially for the launch of a new ministry. The verse that he reads is not an abitrary choice, it is the prescibed reading for that Shabbat as the Jews then used the triennial Torah cycle of readings. The reading for that year which is 40 days after the Tabernacles is Is 61. Behold the spirit of the Lord is upon me... to bind up them that are bruised... to declare the the year of the Lords favor... This descibes his ministry. He leaves off the very last verse of this passage, "And to proclaim the day of Gods vengence" This is for his second coming.

Anyway, the scripture he reads is proof of when that took place and following the Gospel accounts we find it is exactly the right number of days following the first day of the feast of Tabernacles Tishri 15.

Intersting? Yes. You see, if we set aside mans traditions and just look at the recorded truth of scripture, everything begins to ring true.

[CharlesYTK]

I calculated that astroid is moving aprox 27,360 miles/hr. We would definitely feel that impact.
If the entire asteroid hit us without breaking up, there would be no life left on earth in a very short while. The heat alone in the atmosphere in the path of this thing would be several thousands of degrees with the equivelant of 100,000 atomic bombs. Once it impacts the ground or the ocean (more likely by simple odds) much of the ocean would be evaporated and between the dust and the water vapor no sunshire would make it through for years. All plant life would die within a few weeks and all animal life that need those plants in a few months after. With no sun geting through, the temperature of the earth would take a nose dive creating another ice age. Only man with some food storage might survive, but it would be like the stone age. For these reasons I do not expect a direct hit, but I am concerned about some large pieces breaking of and impacting the earth. If they fracture on the near pass, and are then caught in the Gravity well, their new orbit might take a few short passes at a short interval, not 4 years,maybe 1 year and then impact would occur. You see the velocity combined with the mass is what saves us. If the mass is reduced by fracturing, the velocity will not be enough to escape the gravity and it gets pulled in. I believe it runs as you say 27,000 plus MPH which is just above escape velocity.

[Yasatora]

[QUOTE=CharlesYTK]

Charles: The connection of the conception to Channukah just the result of looking for Christ in everything. Channukah is not one of the Moedim, (appointed feasts or messiainic feasts) of Leviticus. It is a historical feast connected only to the delivereance of Israel from their mortal enemy of that time. It might be true that the conception took place about that time, but this in not founded in the prophetic meaning of the feast daysin any way.

QUOTE]

Due to the laws of separation (Leviticus 12:5 15:19,25), two additional weeks have to be counted. Allowing for this and going forward a normal pregnancy, the time of Yochanan’s birth (if this is the first half of the year) would be approximately Pesach [Passover], when it is expected that Elijah will appear.

Now the reason that the information about John is important, is because according to Luke, Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the sixth month of Elisabeth's pregnancy:

Luke 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,25 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

Note that verse 26 above refers to the sixth month of Elisabeth's pregnancy, not Elul, the sixth month of the Hebrew calendar, and this is made plain by the context of verse 24 and again in verse 36:

Luke 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
Now working from the information about John's conception late in the third month, Sivan, and advancing six months, we arrive late in the 9th month of Kislev (Nov-Dec) for the time frame for the conception of Jesus. It is notable here that the first day of the Jewish festival of Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights, is celebrated on the 25th day of Kislev, and Jesus is called the light of the world. (John 8:12, 9:5, 12:46)

This does not appear to be a mere coincidence. In the book of John, Hanukkah is called the feast of dedication (John 10:22). Hanukkah is an eight day festival, celebrating the relighting of the menorah in the rededicated Temple, which according to the story, stayed lit miraculously for eight days on only one day's supply of oil. Which would also place Yeshua's circumcision on the eighth day.

[CharlesYTK]

Yes, the eighth day of the feast of Tabernacles is Simchat Torah, Rejoicing in Torah. Yeshua was circumised on that day, and he is the living Torah, the Torah made flesh, the living word of God. And we rejoiced in his coming. Yeshua becomes a son of the covenant on that day. The eighth day is also the "day of lingering" an extension to the feast that calls on God to remain with us, to continue on with us forever.

[Yasatora]

Now that is circumcision, cutting to the quick, like a two-edged sword, our wonderful Simchat Torah.

Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.