How to keep kosher

[Henaynei]

Very neat site

http://www.shemayisrael.com/j/keepingkosher/chap1.html#4

[By Grace]

Wow, that's a lot of rules!

[Henaynei]

Wow, that's a lot of rules! True - it is the "HOW to do" of the "What to do" that Torah gives us.

This is not your beginners level kashrut and observance LOL - but it is handy for those who are more advanced and gives beginners an idea of what "really " keeping kosher is like ;) Will encourage and challenge some, will wave others off from delving into that which would frustrate and burn them out ;)

[Talmidah]

Also, Rabbi Wolff was leading a class on Kashrut on Pal Talk Sunday mornings. I'm not sure if he is still doing it, but he would talk about the different aspect of kashrut as well as answer specific questions people would type in text.

[schwartmrs]

A quick question.....I do not keep kosher, but I have been considering it. I have been told that rare beef is not kosher because it "bleeds" when it's cut...but, on this site, it says that "raw" meat is permitted. So what is *your* take? Is rare beef kosher?

[Henaynei]

We eat rare also - the kashrut of the matter is, as far as I know, that if the meat has been kashered (gone through the kashering process where it was slaughtered properly and salted and rinsed according to halakah all of which removed the blood) that cooking and eating it rare is ok. Remember, ever well done meat has "juices" - these, while not red any longer because of the prolonged cooking, are still the blood of the meat. Halakah recognizes the only way to remove ALL the blood is to turn the meat into dust :)

[mjterry87]

Wow, those are really strict rules! I thought keeping kosher from the facts at Judaismfaq.com were tough! LOL I guess this means I don't keep Kosher. Wow, if someboady actully followed this, then they could never eat out. Question. Why is it so hard to eat this way? Society has just gone against these rules som much. :scratch:

[Talmidah]

Wow, if someboady actully followed this, then they could never eat out. LOL....We eat out probably a little too much. We just only go to kosher restaurants.

[By Grace]

How do you know if a restaurant is kosher? Will they advertise that?

[Talmidah]

How do you know if a restaurant is kosher? Will they advertise that?
They would display the certificate given to them by the Rabbinic authority which certified that restaurant as kosher.

[mjterry87]

I live in Florida which has a pretty big Jewish population, and I have never seen a Kosher restarunt.

[Talmidah]

You may want to call a local synagogue and ask them if they know of any Kosher restaurants in the area. I live near Los Angeles so there are plenty to choose from, but I know this is definitely not the case everywhere.

[Henaynei]

I live in Florida which has a pretty big Jewish population, and I have never seen a Kosher restarunt. You generally have to live in South West FL. - basically the Boca Raton/Miami - they are everywhere down there.

I live in the Tampa Bay area - also a large Jewish community - but a non-observant populaton by and large - only one truly kosher resource - Jo-El's Kosher warehouse/Market - also have a kosher deli and lunch bar.... fresh and frozen kosher meats and kosher cheeses (VERY hare to find) - I either have them deliver ( during the winter when they come this far south) or go up there on Sundays 1-2x/month to get our foods.

No, kosher resturants around here -- we had one - but the one man operation closed when the owner/chef has an auto accident...... he is ok, was 2 years ago, but not able to re-open due to start up cost.....

[mjterry87]

We used to have a Kosher market here in Melbourne, but they closed down.

[CelineDion]

As a christian I would love to go Kosher also...it is much healthier. So I commend all of you who do this. God Bless you

[Bon]

As far as I have gone with Kosher is clean and unclean animals.

That site is very comprehensive and WOW! very strict.

Henaynei, is all the information on the site biblically based?

And do you keep kosher as strictly as that?

Here in Melbourne, Australia, you'd have to move into the Jewish suburb of Balaclava to be near kosher restaurants, delis, and butchers, etc.

Unfortunately, we cannot afford to live in this suburb as it is for the wealthy folk! ;)

I do, however, have a 'Halal' butcher around the corner and they have strict guidelines on how they kill their animals (different or the same as the Jew, I don't know)...no pork either.

Shalom from Bon

[chanahs]

Henaynei, is all the information on the site biblically based?

And do you keep kosher as strictly as that?

Here in Melbourne, Australia, you'd have to move into the Jewish suburb of Balaclava to be near kosher restaurants, delis, and butchers, etc.

Of course, it is biblically based. I keep strict kosher. The point of kashrut and all the laws incumbent on Jews is to make them a separate people, a holy nation, through which God can display Himself to the rest of the world nationally. These laws have preserved the Jewish people through the almost 1900 years that they traversed throughout the world. So if you have to move into a Jewish suburb in order to keep kashrut, then that is a good sign. The laws are doing their job.

[Talmidah]

So if you have to move into a Jewish suburb in order to keep kashrut, then that is a good sign. The laws are doing their job.I agree with everything you say in this post. The difficult part comes in when one cannot afford to move into a Jewish area. I'm fortunate enough in that I live close enough to go every week or 2 and buy all I need, but its difficult to fully keep all the laws and not have enough money to move.

[Bon]

I agree with everything you say in this post. The difficult part comes in when one cannot afford to move into a Jewish area. I'm fortunate enough in that I live close enough to go every week or 2 and buy all I need, but its difficult to fully keep all the laws and not have enough money to move.

Thank you!...We can only afford to live in a suburb 28km from the CBD. The Jewish suburb is about 2km from the CBD.

Sorry chanahs, I'm not going to get the guilts from your post message.
(By the way, I'm not a Jew, I am a Gentile, and I am travelling my spiritual path in the best way I know how and learning and growing as I go, one step at a time.)

Shalom from Bon

[Bon]

I agree with everything you say in this post. The difficult part comes in when one cannot afford to move into a Jewish area. I'm fortunate enough in that I live close enough to go every week or 2 and buy all I need, but its difficult to fully keep all the laws and not have enough money to move.

Thank you!...We can only afford to live in a suburb 28km from the CBD. The Jewish suburb is about 2km from the CBD.

Sorry chanahs, I'm not going to get the guilts from your post message.
(By the way, I'm not a Jew, I am a Gentile, and I am travelling my spiritual path in the best way I know how and learning and growing as I go, one step at a time.)

Shalom from Bon (OOOPS!, Accidently posted twice......see chanahs, you've upset me now :) )

[Bon]

Of course, it is biblically based. I keep strict kosher. The point of kashrut and all the laws incumbent on Jews is to make them a separate people, a holy nation, through which God can display Himself to the rest of the world nationally. These laws have preserved the Jewish people through the almost 1900 years that they traversed throughout the world. So if you have to move into a Jewish suburb in order to keep kashrut, then that is a good sign. The laws are doing their job.This is one of the questions from the site henaynei posted:

Q: Must bread have strict Orthodox Rabbinical supervision even if it is baked by Jews?

A: Yes. However, in France, certain types of commercial bread do not need supervision.

Doesn't sound biblcally based to me. :)

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[Henaynei]

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[Bon]

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OK, understood.:)
I'm new around these parts.

Think I'll keep away, cause I don't know enough about it and I'll have to find my answers elsewhere...right?

[Henaynei]

OK, understood.:)
I'm new around these parts.

Think I'll keep away, cause I don't know enough about it and I'll have to find my answers elsewhere...right? Not at all!! you are welcome, even invited, to start a thread in the main MJ forum and ask for all the answers for which you have questions!!! Jump in and go for it!! :)

The Halakah sub-forum is not the place to discuss the pros and cons of accpeting the Rabbinic Halakah - but out in the main MJ forum it is welcome!:thumbsup: