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Orthodox Andrew
28th November 2003, 05:52 PM
I use the New International Version, and I have the Orthodox Study Bible coming soon, which will be a great help for understanding scripture.:)

Photini
28th November 2003, 05:58 PM
RIght now I use the Orthodox Study Bible (which is the NKJV). I hope to purchase the Orthodox New Testament when I've saved up enough.
For the OT, I have the LXX (Brenton).

Oblio
28th November 2003, 06:16 PM
ONT

MariaRegina
28th November 2003, 06:43 PM
Photini,

Is your LXX a good English translation or is it in Greek?

P.S. I have The Orthodox Study Bible from Conciliar Press as well as both volumes 1 and 2 of The Orthodox New Testament from Holy Apostles Convent, Buena Vista, Colorado.

I enjoy looking at the footnotes from both. Very interesting.

Photini
28th November 2003, 06:53 PM
Photini,

Is your LXX a good English translation or is it in Greek?

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It is in both English and Greek. I am looking forward to the LXX project that is currently taking place to finally be complete and available. I believe this should happen next year?

MariaRegina
28th November 2003, 07:07 PM
It is in both English and Greek. I am looking forward to the LXX project that is currently taking place to finally be complete and available. I believe this should happen next year?

The translation of the Greek Septuagint by the Orthodox (under SCOBA) should be completed either in 2004 or 2005. They originally had hoped to complete it in 2003.

Philip
28th November 2003, 07:38 PM
ONT and RSV-CE.

I too am eagerly awaiting the completion of the LXX Project (www.lxx.org).

Reader Nilus
28th November 2003, 10:52 PM
I use the New English Bible, I also have most of the others. I use for reference Brenton, I would use it more but the readability of it is terrible, because the print of the English is to small.
Jeff the Finn

Photini
28th November 2003, 11:14 PM
, I would use it more but the readability of it is terrible, because the print of the English is to small.
Jeff the Finn
I agree. And my poor eyesight only makes it worse.
I very much like the Psalms from this version. Very beautiful.

TWells
29th November 2003, 11:51 AM
I use mostly the New Jerusalem Bible and the RSV. I have the NKJV study Bible but havent really used it much.

by the way whats the ONT and RSV-CE?

Oblio
29th November 2003, 11:57 AM
ONT == Orthodox New Testament (Holy Apostles Convent) (http://www.buenavistaco.com/GOC/HRDPUB.HTM)

Even though it is printed with the blessing of the GOC, it is a wonderful Bible with extensive endnotes of the Fathers and embedded icons. Check around (light-n-life et. al.) for the best price for a set.

Suzannah
29th November 2003, 11:57 AM
Hello....(waving to all my brothers and sisters in Christ here!)

I hope you don't mind me popping in ...I am always wanting to increase my understanding of scripture and so I was very curious which editions you use...thank you for posting. I really look forward to checking out the Orthodox translation that you all mentioned, to help me with some things. I use the New American Standard and I'm hoping to find even more understanding. Thanks for letting me pop in and say hello!

:)

TWells
29th November 2003, 12:01 PM
ONT == Orthodox New Testament (Holy Apostles Convent)

I see...thanks

Oblio
29th November 2003, 12:06 PM
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I see...thanks

See my post above for a link that I added. The Convent that publishes it is part of ROAC (not in communion with most of Orthodoxy) so you might ask your preist if it is OK to use it.

Oblio
29th November 2003, 12:11 PM
Hello....(waving to all my brothers and sisters in Christ here!)

I hope you don't mind me popping in ...I am always wanting to increase my understanding of scripture and so I was very curious which editions you use...thank you for posting. I really look forward to checking out the Orthodox translation that you all mentioned, to help me with some things. I use the New American Standard and I'm hoping to find even more understanding. Thanks for letting me pop in and say hello!

:)

:)

Visitors are always welcome ! As our Lord said Come and see !

The ONT is a bit expensive (it is a two vol set) but is worth owning if you like to see what the Church Fathers believed about the Gospel. If you have a specific verse, I'm sure those of us that have a copy can post the commentary so you can get a flavor of the content.

Suzannah
29th November 2003, 12:18 PM
Thank you! I really appreciate your welcome. I am having trouble with a verse and I don't understand it. I need help with it. Please, if you could help me understand it I will be so grateful.

It is Luke 8:18 "So take care how you listen; (2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=LUKE%2B8%3A17-19&showfn=on&showxref=on&language=english&version=NASB&x=18&y=9#crossref_77440980_2)) for whoever has, to him more shall be given; and whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has shall be taken away from him."

Is Jesus speaking of knowledge or something else? If it is knowledge how can it be subtracted if a person doesn't have it? I am really struggling to understand this. Thank you for anything you might offer!
:)

Oblio
29th November 2003, 12:53 PM
Unfortunately there are no notes on the verses you have asked about :( This often happens, and there would be many more volumes if each verse had commentary. There is another wonderful compilation that I recommend to all (Prot/Cath/Ortho alike), The Explanation by Blessed Theophylact of the Gospel According to St. Luke that speaks to this verse:

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Luke 8:16-18

Here begins another teaching. The Lord addresses these words to the disciples, urging them on to a strict way of life and teaching them to be strugglers in virtue, because they will be seen by all. He who teaches and preaches is indeed seen by all, for all examine him to see if he is good or not, and nothing about him remains hidden. Therefore, O disciples, if you have dillegence and zeal, you will be given greater grace from God. But he who has neither dillegence nor zeal, by his negligence will extinguish and lose that grace which he seems to have from God.

Oblio
29th November 2003, 01:01 PM
Bl. Theophylact is quoted often in the ONT and the explanations read well with one volume each per Gospel. Unfortunately, the Gospel According to St. John has not yet been translated.

The Explanation of the New Testament by Blessed Theophylact, Archbishop of Ochrid and Bulgaria (http://www.chrysostompress.org/catalog/explanation/)


This classic Orthodox commentary of the New Testament was written about the year 1100 A.D. by a brilliant and saintly Byzantine Churchman. His commentary has remained a primary text of New Testament interpretation throughout the Orthodox world of Greece, Russia, Serbia, Bulgaria, and Romania. Blessed Theophylact distills the teaching of the earlier Church Fathers, especially Saint John Chrysostom, in language that is profound, powerful and direct.

Suzannah
29th November 2003, 01:12 PM
Thank you so much for your time and energy on this! I greatly appreciate you sharing with me. I am assuming the commentary you posted is from early church fathers. So it would seem, that it was their opinion, that Jesus was speaking of salvation, perhaps?
That if they really had it, they would be blessed, and if they only thought they had it, they would lose it? Am I understanding it aright?

I dont' want to hijack your thread so if you want to pm or email, that's great too!

Oblio
29th November 2003, 01:29 PM
Blessed Theopylact of Serbia wrote in the 1100's so he would not be considered an 'Early' Church Father.

He seems to be talking about grace and how the dispensation of grace is part of a relationship that is formed between God and his disciples. Man having free will cooperates with God, and those with zeal and love for Him will be blessed with even more grace, those that reject and neglect His gifts will see His grace diminish and eventually be lost. Salvation and deification is by grace from God, so one could probably see this passage as applying to the process of salvation. IMO anyway :)

MattMMMan17
29th November 2003, 01:36 PM
Douay-Reims / New American Bible

Suzannah
29th November 2003, 01:41 PM
Dear Oblio,
Thank you so much for sharing with me. I think I understand more now! I will definitely check out these books you mention. There is an Orthodox bookstore in my town and I will go this week. But I just wanted to thank you for your patience and your help!

Oblio
29th November 2003, 01:43 PM
Glad to be of help ! :)