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7angel
20th September 2008, 06:57 PM
The question, Who were those who followed Jesus and those who follow him now? - Is something that you have to see with your own eyes.

Previously, those who followed Jesus were great sinners and recognized himself as such, they wanted to change his life and it succeeded because Jesus was with them.,people of all social classes, rich and poor, educated and not educated, but once converted, there were no differences between them, that is, none was considered better than the other, or with more hierarchy. there was no "bosses" - Jesus is the only Lord.

The next reading stresses, whom were follower to Jesus, so we can understand that between them had not privileges, even they came from different social classes.



Luke Chapter 8

1
Afterward he journeyed from one town and village to another, preaching and proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God. Accompanying him were the Twelve
2 and some women who had been cured of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary, called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out, 3 Joanna, the wife of Herod's steward Chuza, Susanna, and many others who provided for them out of their resources.

Is to take into consideration, right?

rob64
20th September 2008, 07:27 PM
The question, Who were those who followed Jesus and those who follow him now? - Is something that you have to see with your own eyes.

Previously, those who followed Jesus were great sinners and recognized himself as such, they wanted to change his life and it succeeded because Jesus was with them.,people of all social classes, rich and poor, educated and not educated, but once converted, there were no differences between them, that is, none was considered better than the other, or with more hierarchy. there was no "bosses" - Jesus is the only Lord.

The next reading stresses, whom were follower to Jesus, so we can understand that between them had not privileges, even they came from different social classes.



Luke Chapter 8

1
Afterward he journeyed from one town and village to another, preaching and proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God. Accompanying him were the Twelve
2 and some women who had been cured of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary, called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out, 3 Joanna, the wife of Herod's steward Chuza, Susanna, and many others who provided for them out of their resources.

Is to take into consideration, right?

I'm sorry, 7angel, but I don't see what you mean to say. I'm pretty dumb tonight!

Grumpy Hillbilly
20th September 2008, 08:18 PM
Mark 10:42

(http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/audio/play.php?aid=1&book=48&chapter=10)


42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.
43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:


I think it's interesting when William Tyndale was translating the New Testament from greek, he didn't use priest and those words that would show the ministry being a heigharchy over the congregation, but used ecclesia, or elders instead. The Anglicans,(and I'll get bashed for this one) are almost as Catholic as the Roman Catholics, no wonder our KJV is full of Bishops and offices, the original language doesn't say this.

7angel
21st September 2008, 09:38 AM
I'm sorry, 7angel, but I don't see what you mean to say. I'm pretty dumb tonight!


In the various churches, people are presumed because of their social class or the title, reading warns against this form of being,
who wants to be first, ask yourself the last

7angel
21st September 2008, 09:47 AM
Mark 10

42 6 (http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/mark/mark10.htm#foot6) Jesus summoned them and said to them, "You know that those who are recognized as rulers over the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones make their authority over them felt. 43 But it shall not be so among you. Rather, whoever wishes to be great among you will be your servant; 44 whoever wishes to be first among you will be the slave of all. 45 For the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many."

rob64
22nd September 2008, 07:13 AM
In the various churches, people are presumed because of their social class or the title, reading warns against this form of being,
who wants to be first, ask yourself the last

I see.

e. barrett
24th September 2008, 11:13 AM
Whenever I read the Bible I tend to identify myself with Moses, David, one of the disciples... I think, "heck yeah, I'm one of the meek. I'm one of the lost." But then I start looking at my life, and all the great things I have, and I have to realize, I often look more like a Pharisee or a rich ruler, than the people who embraced God.

It's easy to think we're the "good guys" in the story of the Bible. But there's probably more Saul in me than David. Which is why I'm glad God loved Saul too! :)