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Ryan897
14th September 2008, 10:42 PM
ok now i know people have visions that show them something god wants for them. but yesterday my band played at a diffrent church (i cant rember what one right now i will find it later) but any who the person speeking was talking about her visions and such witch was good it was a good sermon.

now what got me is their were 3 girls in front of me and when the speeker started talking about her visions one girl started telling her friend about how she has like 5 visions a day...then she stoped for like 5 seconds and said "OH!..i had another one....."

now is that normal or what? to me i felt she was just trying to "show off" but i dont frequent other churches much so yea...imput would be nice :thumbsup:

JasonX43
15th September 2008, 03:13 AM
I think it depends on how deeply into the Holy Spirit you are. I've had visions during this trying time of my roommates' divorce as well as three visions of Heaven. The Lord also showed me the futility of chasing after fame and fortune in mainstream music.

rob64
15th September 2008, 03:55 PM
ok now i know people have visions that show them something god wants for them. but yesterday my band played at a diffrent church (i cant rember what one right now i will find it later) but any who the person speeking was talking about her visions and such witch was good it was a good sermon.

now what got me is their were 3 girls in front of me and when the speeker started talking about her visions one girl started telling her friend about how she has like 5 visions a day...then she stoped for like 5 seconds and said "OH!..i had another one....."

now is that normal or what? to me i felt she was just trying to "show off" but i dont frequent other churches much so yea...imput would be nice :thumbsup:

Good post! I've had 2 visions, but I'm no pro. There is a forum for dreams and visions. Maybe they can help.

Can I tell you what I really think?
I could be wrong, it's just a thought for you. This aint 'from God', just had a thought;
I think what you experienced in that service might be the gift of discerning spirits. Maybe God is dealing with you about this gift.
Maybe I'm wrong, just a thought
Hey, how have you been?

Ryan897
15th September 2008, 10:49 PM
Good post! I've had 2 visions, but I'm no pro. There is a forum for dreams and visions. Maybe they can help.

Can I tell you what I really think?
I could be wrong, it's just a thought for you. This aint 'from God', just had a thought;
I think what you experienced in that service might be the gift of discerning spirits. Maybe God is dealing with you about this gift.
Maybe I'm wrong, just a thought
Hey, how have you been?

humm never thought of it that way. thanks. i might have to check it out, but what is it under? the dreams and visions forum i meen.

and im good our band has been playing a lil more. we start recording tomarrow(tuesday the 16th) so that is a blessing :amen:. how are you my friend?:thumbsup:

rob64
16th September 2008, 08:57 AM
humm never thought of it that way. thanks. i might have to check it out, but what is it under? the dreams and visions forum i meen.

and im good our band has been playing a lil more. we start recording tomarrow(tuesday the 16th) so that is a blessing :amen:. how are you my friend?:thumbsup:

It's under edification, all the way to the right.
Hey, :D, I'm glad to hear that y'all are moving forward with your band!!!
And that y'all are finally recording. Good things are happening!!!
Oh, please gimme that link again, (for the band), been busy, busy, busy, and forgot all about it. I gotta check it out
Doing good, thanx, gotta go,
Later,...

Ryan897
16th September 2008, 01:14 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/thresh-hold/ is the web site
http://www.myspace.com/threshhold1 is our myspace.

they both are almost 100% the same so its your choice lol.
we will have the new songs up next week

MoNiCa4316
23rd September 2008, 02:31 AM
I believe that many times when people say they had visions..it was more like their imagination.

There are those who have real visions too. It's more than just a visual image or something you saw in your head. It changes you and there is 'good fruit', it helps you love God more and serve Him better.

rob64
23rd September 2008, 08:14 AM
I believe that many times when people say they had visions..it was more like their imagination.

There are those who have real visions too. It's more than just a visual image or something you saw in your head. It changes you and there is 'good fruit', it helps you love God more and serve Him better.

Really? Please explain.

MoNiCa4316
23rd September 2008, 04:57 PM
Really? Please explain.

:wave:well what I mean is that sometimes people get a little obsessed about having visions and spiritual experiences, and forget that these things are not an end to themselves..and they start seeking these experiences more than God. This really opens doors to deception.. (I'm not saying ALL of these people are deceived, but some might be)
However people who seek God above everything, even above consolations and 'feelings', they care more about growing in love and obedience. And if they receive a vision, it would probably be really from God, for that reason.. and it would be something that is beneficial to them spiritually. :)

rob64
23rd September 2008, 06:59 PM
:wave:well what I mean is that sometimes people get a little obsessed about having visions and spiritual experiences, and forget that these things are not an end to themselves..and they start seeking these experiences more than God. This really opens doors to deception.. (I'm not saying ALL of these people are deceived, but some might be)
However people who seek God above everything, even above consolations and 'feelings', they care more about growing in love and obedience. And if they receive a vision, it would probably be really from God, for that reason.. and it would be something that is beneficial to them spiritually. :)

:thumbsup: Wow, that was deep! I totally understand. Upon recieving Christ, I checked into a Teen Challenge, a Dave Wilkerson ministry. I was 19 at the time. Those people totally let the Holy Ghost have the reigns, If you know what I mean. They tought us to make praise and worship personal to God. This one service started out like normal, we were singing, and praising, people were really into it. I had my eyes closed, and my hands raised up. You could almost feel the Holy Spirit, He was so thick in there! We must have just kept singing the same thing. We sang alot of scripture, such as Psalms. Anyway, after a while, my mind went from being blank, to a very strange image. I say strange because it had never happened before; All I saw was the earth, like you would see it from outer space. Everything around it was dark. And slowly, the earth was getting farther and farther away. I didn't "feel" anything. I could hear the rest of the members still singing. The image never stopped, till I opened my eyes. And as soon as I did the singing came to an end, and the service was over. It seemed like a matter of seconds. But we had been there for at least an hour. That was the service. Sometimes, when the Spirit was in there thick, all we did was praise and worship. I saw demons cast out, junkies delivered, people healed. And I have felt the Holy Ghost in those services. Someone told me that was God, showing me how "the world" was being driven out of me.
All I know, it made a serious impression on me.
That vision was for rob64. God made himself so real to me after that!
He gave me another one about 2 years ago. It was concerning the church I attended, while I was homeless. They had been praying for the new church to get aproval from the city. A gravel parking lot was needed, as well as the funds. They had been praying for a year. A YEAR !
I went and layed on my bunk in the mens dorm, and closed my eyes. I saw four pillars. At first I was confused, but, I felt an urge to go look up four pillars, or four corners-cant remember, in a concordance. It was a reference to the temple having four pillars. So, I saw four people laying hands on the four corners of the new church. After I told the prayer leader about it, he conveyed to the pastor. The pastor told him to get three other people together, and do it. Of course we did, and that was that. THE NEXT DAY, I was in the kitchen helping with dishes. Everyone had went through the line, and I heard "Robert", so I turned my head, and nobody was there. I was seriously thinking I was loosing it! I turned back around to continue the dishes, and heard it again. This time, I looked out to the guys who were eating, thinking someone was calling me. But no one was. I just happened to look out the window, just past where the guys were eating, and saw the first semi load of gravel rolling down the dirt path to the new church!!! I couldn't believe it!!
Both times, the word vision wasn't even in my mind. And, I was at the lowest places in my life, a drug rehab, and a homeless shelter. But it was when I was the most in tune with God. Spiritually, I was on a sumit!
I agree with you 100%
Peace

Grumpy Hillbilly
23rd September 2008, 08:07 PM
What I read about the apostles and the prophets, they had visions, but I don't think they were constantly having visions just from how the Word is written. Some people do like to show off and make people think they are ultra-spiritual, or sometimes, like it's already been stated, it's their imagination. I've had visions myself, and they are real and for our day and hour "your young men shall have visions and your old men will dream dreams" in Joel. That's why John said to not believe every spirit, weigh it with scripture.

Grumpy Hillbilly
23rd September 2008, 08:14 PM
Hey, I like the NANA song! You guys sound good.

MoNiCa4316
23rd September 2008, 09:03 PM
:thumbsup: Wow, that was deep! I totally understand. Upon recieving Christ, I checked into a Teen Challenge, a Dave Wilkerson ministry. I was 19 at the time. Those people totally let the Holy Ghost have the reigns, If you know what I mean. They tought us to make praise and worship personal to God. This one service started out like normal, we were singing, and praising, people were really into it. I had my eyes closed, and my hands raised up. You could almost feel the Holy Spirit, He was so thick in there! We must have just kept singing the same thing. We sang alot of scripture, such as Psalms. Anyway, after a while, my mind went from being blank, to a very strange image. I say strange because it had never happened before; All I saw was the earth, like you would see it from outer space. Everything around it was dark. And slowly, the earth was getting farther and farther away. I didn't "feel" anything. I could hear the rest of the members still singing. The image never stopped, till I opened my eyes. And as soon as I did the singing came to an end, and the service was over. It seemed like a matter of seconds. But we had been there for at least an hour. That was the service. Sometimes, when the Spirit was in there thick, all we did was praise and worship. I saw demons cast out, junkies delivered, people healed. And I have felt the Holy Ghost in those services. Someone told me that was God, showing me how "the world" was being driven out of me.
All I know, it made a serious impression on me.
That vision was for rob64. God made himself so real to me after that!
He gave me another one about 2 years ago. It was concerning the church I attended, while I was homeless. They had been praying for the new church to get aproval from the city. A gravel parking lot was needed, as well as the funds. They had been praying for a year. A YEAR !
I went and layed on my bunk in the mens dorm, and closed my eyes. I saw four pillars. At first I was confused, but, I felt an urge to go look up four pillars, or four corners-cant remember, in a concordance. It was a reference to the temple having four pillars. So, I saw four people laying hands on the four corners of the new church. After I told the prayer leader about it, he conveyed to the pastor. The pastor told him to get three other people together, and do it. Of course we did, and that was that. THE NEXT DAY, I was in the kitchen helping with dishes. Everyone had went through the line, and I heard "Robert", so I turned my head, and nobody was there. I was seriously thinking I was loosing it! I turned back around to continue the dishes, and heard it again. This time, I looked out to the guys who were eating, thinking someone was calling me. But no one was. I just happened to look out the window, just past where the guys were eating, and saw the first semi load of gravel rolling down the dirt path to the new church!!! I couldn't believe it!!
Both times, the word vision wasn't even in my mind. And, I was at the lowest places in my life, a drug rehab, and a homeless shelter. But it was when I was the most in tune with God. Spiritually, I was on a sumit!
I agree with you 100%
Peace

:hug:thanks for sharing that. that's so awesome! :clap:I think that God really gives us what we need, you needed Him to guide you in this way, during those times of your life.. and He did. :)
I've had both real and false spiritual experiences in my life. When I first became a Christian I think I sought 'feelings' way too much and got discouraged when I didn't feel near to God..? This messed me up a little. And I think a couple of times I even was deceived, for real. But God didn't give up on me, He helped me understand, when we don't feel anything yet still obey, still pray, still love Him.. this pleases Him a lot. If we put obedience to God's will at the top priority; not what we think God's will is but being open to whatever it is, we would grow spiritually and also grow in love and humility. And what we experience would be genuine and spiritual, and result in real change in our lives. The key is always keeping focus on Jesus and not putting anything above Him, not just sin but good things too.

just my two cents ;)


God bless:hug:

rob64
24th September 2008, 07:07 PM
:hug:thanks for sharing that. that's so awesome! :clap:I think that God really gives us what we need, you needed Him to guide you in this way, during those times of your life.. and He did. :)
I've had both real and false spiritual experiences in my life. When I first became a Christian I think I sought 'feelings' way too much and got discouraged when I didn't feel near to God..? This messed me up a little. And I think a couple of times I even was deceived, for real. But God didn't give up on me, He helped me understand, when we don't feel anything yet still obey, still pray, still love Him.. this pleases Him a lot. If we put obedience to God's will at the top priority; not what we think God's will is but being open to whatever it is, we would grow spiritually and also grow in love and humility. And what we experience would be genuine and spiritual, and result in real change in our lives. The key is always keeping focus on Jesus and not putting anything above Him, not just sin but good things too.

just my two cents ;)


God bless:hug:

Thank you sis, for the encouragement. You are very bright! I agree with everything you've said.
Today, my job allowed me to go inside a Jewish synagogue! It was the first time for me. I love our Jewish brothers and sisters.
I repair restaurant equipment, as well as move the equipment. The synagogue was a victim of Katrina. After we removed the kitchen stuff, the board member from the synagogue asked my opinion about removing the wood mantle that is in the back of the stage. (it looked much like any other church) Open door! I came down here origionally to do some volunteer work for churches. I've only had my hands on one church to work on it, that being the one mentioned in my prior post. But all of a sudden, God opens a door for a jewish church! This is huge for me. I told the man I would gladly vounteer to help in anyway with their demo work. So he took my ph. no. The Lord only knows how I feel about His chosen people. I told him that I was a believer, and he said that we are brothers!
Hallelluya! Man I'm excited about this. They are building a new building, and I'm gonna beg and plead with him to let me help with it.
Ooops, I got carried away again, I strayed from the OP.
Sorry, mister/misses moderator.
Peace