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GBTWC
5th September 2008, 07:52 AM
why did Jesus ascend up into the clouds is heaven up this never made sense to me Ive always percieved heaven to be other dimensional perhaps but not really up ?

Kristos
5th September 2008, 09:16 AM
Maybe so those who witnessed it would understand what was happening?

I don't know for sure, but I don't think they had any concepts of other dimensions. Heaven was up in the sky, hell was below the earth...

rusmeister
5th September 2008, 09:23 PM
Some things in the Bible aren't necessarily to be taken literally. The Bible was written by fallible men inspired by the Holy Spirit, so they described things in ways that they understood - thus, Jesus' Ascension was "up" (and maybe it really, really was - symbolically, it fits...), Joshua told the sun to stop and it did ( - the sun stopped?? Wouldn't it really be the earth that stopped? Etc.) So the actual explanation for the phenomenon might be explained in different terms today - but those terms could prove just as inadequate to describe what they really saw. Geordi of Star Trek:TNG would use the best multi-hyper-spatial language available - and it still might not be completely accurate. Who could describe the Transfiguration?

I think it would take a heavenly language in perfected bodies/minds to really fully understand "what happened". The languages we read the Bible in are decidedly not quite there.