Personal Relationship

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Even though I believe I accepted Christ two years ago and have been attending church all my life, I feel like a new Christian. Lately, I've been in that state where I'm questioning whether or not I'm really a Christian, whether my belief is more in a God out there that I can just talk to as a friend, or rather I have a real personal relationship with Jesus.

I feel that two years ago, I overcame my first hurdle of the "God" issue: whether he exists or not. I know there's a Creator, I know there is a God, but this Jesus issue now... I feel like I'm going insane trying to find out and search for this and to truly understand what it means to let go of my sins and allow him to forgive me. What I thought to be faith for the past two years I felt was alright, couldn't say it was truly growing or anything, but now, maybe I'm looking for the true piece I'm missing in order to call myself a Christian.

What does it feel like to have a savior, rather than just a God to look after you? Does it mean that whatever sin you have, you tell God, this is what I've done, this is not what I want to do, and I've come to be cleansed so that I can be with you?

[Bellicus]

I think when people talk about "close relationship with Jesus" they didn't really read the bible, cause Jesus is in heaven with God and we can't really have a close relationship with someone that are not here. The close relationship we should have, should be with the Holy Spirit witch were given to us because Jesus was going back to heaven and could not help us anymore here on earth.

So God is the one you should pray to, Jesus is the way to God and the Spirit is what should guide you on this way and comfort you when you get weary.

You got a savior that loves you, that died for you, that is praying for you. This is not a feeling, but a fact. God forgives your sin because of Jesus, and what it means to let go of sins, is to stop doing them and to follow the Spirit instead of the flesh.

Hope this answered some of your question.

[LilLamb219]

You seem very focused on You right now...what you do for God, could be doing for God, etc...

Instead, what it means to be a Christian is to have faith in what our triune God has done for us. He came to earth in the form of man and lived the perfectly obedient life that we never could, He died on the cross in our substitute for the forgiveness of our sins and was resurrected from the dead on the 3rd day to prove that death could not beat Him. If you cling to this Gospel message, then you are indeed a Christian.

[Jayangel81]

I think when people talk about "close relationship with Jesus" they didn't really read the bible, cause Jesus is in heaven with God and we can't really have a close relationship with someone that are not here.

:confused: If my mother lets say moves across the world are you saying I cannot have a relationship with her because she is not in front of me?

While Jesus is not exactly in front of us, I do spent quality time with Him and do indeed have a relationship with Him :thumbsup: I dont see how you can claim not to have one with Him to be honest.

It just bugged me that you said that, I just wanted to say something about it:)

[Bellicus]

Jayangel: I was just pointing out the fact that it is the Spirit we should be following. We can't follow Jesus here on earth, cause he's not here, but in heaven. Many Christians say things like "Jesus is among us" or that they feel the "presence of God", but this is actually the Holy Spirit. And often I think that this is not just innocent mistakes we make or that it don't really matter, it is something to be taken seriously, cause we depend on the Spirit to be able to walk the way that Jesus made for us.

If there is anything you disagree with on this, feel free to send me a pm, cause the rules for this part of the forum is that we should not debate.

I only tried to help anyway.

God bless

[Jayangel81]

Jayangel: I was just pointing out the fact that it is the Spirit we should be following. We can't follow Jesus here on earth, cause he's not here, but in heaven. Many Christians say things like "Jesus is among us" or that they feel the "presence of God", but this is actually the Holy Spirit. And often I think that this is not just innocent mistakes we make or that it don't really matter, it is something to be taken seriously, cause we depend on the Spirit to be able to walk the way that Jesus made for us.

No I understand what your saying and I do agree with you. You just caught me offguard in about not having a relationship with Jesus. But I understand what you were getting at :thumbsup:

If there is anything you disagree with on this, feel free to send me a pm, cause the rules for this part of the forum is that we should not debate.


No, there is no need to debate I was just expressing that to indeed can still have a relationship with Jesus thats all.

I only tried to help anyway.

I know you are :hug:

And you are right it is the Holy Spirit that rgenerates us and it is indeed the Holy Spirit who will lead us:)

Many blessings to you:)

[CindyisHis]

Even though I believe I accepted Christ two years ago and have been attending church all my life, I feel like a new Christian. Lately, I've been in that state where I'm questioning whether or not I'm really a Christian, whether my belief is more in a God out there that I can just talk to as a friend, or rather I have a real personal relationship with Jesus.

I feel that two years ago, I overcame my first hurdle of the "God" issue: whether he exists or not. I know there's a Creator, I know there is a God, but this Jesus issue now... I feel like I'm going insane trying to find out and search for this and to truly understand what it means to let go of my sins and allow him to forgive me. What I thought to be faith for the past two years I felt was alright, couldn't say it was truly growing or anything, but now, maybe I'm looking for the true piece I'm missing in order to call myself a Christian.

What does it feel like to have a savior, rather than just a God to look after you? Does it mean that whatever sin you have, you tell God, this is what I've done, this is not what I want to do, and I've come to be cleansed so that I can be with you?
There's so much that can be said in answer to your many questions, but the most important question for all of us is, what have we done with Jesus? What I mean is this. The Lord sent Him from heaven to save us and there is no other way to heaven than Jesus. There is no other name given by which men can be saved. To understand that Jesus already bore your sins is essential. To tell God every sin you ever committed would be impossible. Which one of us could remember that? No, it is the confessing "Jesus is Lord" that is the confession unto salvation. It is understanding that He died, was buried and rose again so you could have eternal life. It is to understand we are all utterly destitute of saving ourselves, and that salvation is the gift of God. Would you like to see a few scriptures on this?

[twistedsketch]

I would say pray about it, first off.

Second, you asked what it's like to have a Savior. Well, it's a good thing for God the Son to be our advocate before God the Father. That really sums up all I can put to words right now. See Romans 8:31-39 and 1 John 2:1-2.

[heymikey80]

I know there's a Creator, I know there is a God, but this Jesus issue now... I feel like I'm going insane trying to find out and search for this and to truly understand what it means to let go of my sins and allow him to forgive me. What I thought to be faith for the past two years I felt was alright, couldn't say it was truly growing or anything, but now, maybe I'm looking for the true piece I'm missing in order to call myself a Christian.
Can I suggest a couple of chapters to a book that's online? I wish the whole book were available:

These are PDF downloads:
http://www.seejesus.net/lwau_intro.pdf?PHPSESSID=0641086a10fb9d7c6d8bb70073f9c99f

http://www.seejesus.net/lwau_ch1.pdf?PHPSESSID=0641086a10fb9d7c6d8bb70073f9c99f

The issue is personally relying on Jesus, yes.