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Greatest I am
11th August 2008, 10:48 AM
Eve, if God were loving, would have been the mother of Jesus.

The Bible would have us believe that a loving God sent a genocidal flood to wipe out most of mankind and then after turning evil again, sent Jesus to forgive.
As a loving parent I forgive completely and immediately.
God, as the epitome of a parent would do the same.
This would mean that Eve would have born Jesus and received forgiveness at that point. The justice of God is swift.
Eve was the sinner and the one in need of forgiveness, No chastisement of many innocents is then required by God and He does not need to break His own law and commandment of not killing humans.
Needless to say that any conflagration between God, as most think of Him, and even modern man, would not be a fair and just encounter, therefore the flood myth is just that, a myth, and is not what a true God would do.
Logically and spiritually, the Bible cannot be seen as advocating genocide. Even if it says God used it.
To think that God would sow many souls and gain only 8 out of millions is to think that God is a poor farmer at best and perhaps crazy to try such a venture again.
We must all pay for our own sins Eve, no different.
To forgive Her is to save God’s reputation as a genocidal maniac.
This makes Eve the most likely person to be the Mother of Jesus and allows for the birth of the trinity.
If not, then how else to explain the Trinity. In the time of Marie, Jesus was yet to be born and could not then be part of the Trinity.

Regards
DL

Jayangel81
11th August 2008, 11:22 AM
edit: message deleted. Im refraining from this thread no matter how I write it it turns into a debate :)

Greatest I am
11th August 2008, 12:06 PM
edit: message deleted. Im refraining from this thread no matter how I write it it turns into a debate :)

It is supposed to.

How quick are you to forgive your children.

Regards
DL

Bellicus
11th August 2008, 12:14 PM
We cant just rewrite the bible because God don't fit into what we can understand with our limited ability of logic and reason.

Greatest I am
11th August 2008, 12:26 PM
We cant just rewrite the bible because God don't fit into what we can understand with our limited ability of logic and reason.

If we are in God's immage and Him in ours, how can you say you cannot understand Him. If we ere because He cannot communicate properly, then He can make no claim on us.

If we cannot understand Him then He creared us badly.

Regards
DL

Bellicus
11th August 2008, 12:37 PM
Isaiah 55,8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.


This "If God is not what I want him to be - then he has to be bad/evil etc" kind of arguments you got will lead you nowhere.


We will never understand God in this life.



1.Corinthians 13,9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.


So if there is anything about God that seems bad, unjust, evil, dumb etc. than this is only your own lack of knowledge about God.


1.John 1,5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.


So if you see darkness in Godyou are just not seeing him clearly


1.Corinthians 13,12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Greatest I am
11th August 2008, 03:50 PM
Bellicus

What was the flood?

Evil, good because God used it, unreal or what?
Are the times that God is shown to use violence against man all wrong because He is a loving God?

Regards
DL

MintyAngel
11th August 2008, 04:07 PM
Greatest I am, this is not the place for Christian debate, my friend. If you wish to do that then you should go here (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=237)

As the title of this forum says
For New Christians Here you can post your questions and talk about issues relating to new believers.It is not a place for debate (however much you might want to). If you were to continue to try and debate this issue here, then Staff on the Edification Team (which is not me, as I'm on the Support Team) will be forced to close this thread, and I would hate to see that happen :(

Jere209
11th August 2008, 04:55 PM
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