New Forum: Exposition

[Erwin]

Exposition
A new forum for the study and exposition of specific Bible verses.

A new forum in the Theology category for members to post questions and do studies on specific verses of Scripture.

Enjoy! :)

[Pseud]

Cool, thanks Erwin!

[seangoh]

COOL!!

[LightShade007]

Cool, thanks Erwin!

I think I belong in here... I have argued for christ with so many skeptics, I just moved on a now want to experience people in agree with Christ.




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[didaskalos]

Outstanding!

You know why erwin is like an old cow?

Because he is "out standing in the field..." :D
http://students.cs.byu.edu/~laila/Virtual%20zoo/cow.jpg

[James Barnett]

Thank you Erwin!

[Dianne E]

I'm brand new; I browsed for this topic but couldn't find it. The topic is from Matthew 4:1-11 and Luke 4:1-13 - the Temptation of Jesus. Most people seem to want to automatically make everything a "WWJD" moment. Nothing wrong with that, obviously, but I feel that this story is not about how to resist temptation; there are other scriptures that deal with that. I feel that this is about who Jesus is and what kind of Messiah he will be. The Spirit led him into the wilderness after his baptism - he didn't just go there for the heck of it.

Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I feel that we are minimizing the impact of this story by trying to make it about US. We don't use the crucifixion story to remind us to "hang in there when the going gets tough", so why do we make this story about our response to temptation instead of making it a demonstration of what God meant when he said "You are my Son..."

Thanks for any responses...

Dianne

[yeshuasavedme]

I'm brand new; I browsed for this topic but couldn't find it. The topic is from Matthew 4:1-11 and Luke 4:1-13 - the Temptation of Jesus. Most people seem to want to automatically make everything a "WWJD" moment. Nothing wrong with that, obviously, but I feel that this story is not about how to resist temptation; there are other scriptures that deal with that. I feel that this is about who Jesus is and what kind of Messiah he will be. The Spirit led him into the wilderness after his baptism - he didn't just go there for the heck of it.

Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I feel that we are minimizing the impact of this story by trying to make it about US. We don't use the crucifixion story to remind us to "hang in there when the going gets tough", so why do we make this story about our response to temptation instead of making it a demonstration of what God meant when he said "You are my Son..."

Thanks for any responses...

Dianne

As a human being, the Firstborn of the 'New Man' creation who came as Adam's Kinsman to be Adam's Redeemer, He had to be proved to be without spot or blemish or His sacrificial death would not have been accepted by the Presense "behind the veil" on the Day of Atonement.


He was tempted in all points as we are, the Word says, yet without sin; and the temptations we all face are in the categories of the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.
The lust of the flesh does not mean that Jesus had to be tempted to sexual immorality, but to the category of serving the desires of the flesh for self serving reasons. The flesh is never satisfied when it lusts, for it can never have enough.
The lust of the eyes, I think, can be the: see it; want it; grasp to possess it; mentality; and the eye is never satisfied when it lusts, for it can never have enough.
And the pride of life is the power of 'rule' over others, I think, and those with the pride of life can never be satisfied, for they grasp to rule more and more, and finally, grasp to become God, and be worshipped by all, in the end.

As a human being who came without sin, He was tempted in all points as we are and remained without sin.
He already was YHWH of hosts from eternity, the second Person of the Triune God who left His place to lower Himself to become a human being like Adamkind, and the brother of Adam, who is the "Firstborn" who will rule over all His brethren, as a human being: but He did not come into a sin cursed adamic body, but into that New Man human being body made in the likeness (human flesh) of sinful flesh, but without sin.

If He had fallen, as a human, we would be hopelessly, eternally doomed, for no 'Adam' had the power to keep himself alive, because of the curse, much less to deliver his brother. Ecclessiastes 8:8.


To be our Redeemer, Jesus had to be without spot or blemish, He had to be proved, tested -tried, as silver is tried. In all points He was tested and 'proven' to be pure. Sin had nothing in Him and it could never get anything in Him; therefore, He was the spotless, unblemished Lamb, who was our perfect substitute, who took upon Himself the our sins and tasted our spiritual death, which He tasted for us upon the cross when He cried out, "My God!" "My God!" "Why Hast Thou forsaken Me!" and bore that darkness of separation from the Father's Spirit for those three hours of darkness -and then said, "It is finished!" and physically died.

Is this a good beginning?
Yes-savedme

[chedzoyjulie]

anyone can help me, please. i get realy imbarresesd when im in church. the reason for this is when people ask questions about the bible readings and i cant answer them. I honestly can say that i do not read the bible verry often atall. I dont mind saying that i have a learning dissability and i am not able to answer questions even though i have listened verry carefully. I get so imbaressed and get so scared to talk. I wish i wassent like this. I went to a speacial school and worked individually. I would not beable to work with others. still have the problem at 23 years. i get verry confussed and i cant take in too much information. I get told off for giving in work and exams in late. too much for me to handle. Please give me advice anyone. I dont mind saying this as i rather people ask then not say at all.

[gbear]

anyone can help me, please. i get realy imbarresesd when im in church. the reason for this is when people ask questions about the bible readings and i cant answer them. I honestly can say that i do not read the bible verry often atall. I dont mind saying that i have a learning dissability and i am not able to answer questions even though i have listened verry carefully. I get so imbaressed and get so scared to talk. I wish i wassent like this. I went to a speacial school and worked individually. I would not beable to work with others. still have the problem at 23 years. i get verry confussed and i cant take in too much information. I get told off for giving in work and exams in late. too much for me to handle. Please give me advice anyone. I dont mind saying this as i rather people ask then not say at all.
perhaps you will do much better with audio... listening to the Bible ... there are many resources online and Bibles on tape and CD I'm sure.

And another thing... it is ok to say I do not know, write down or take note of the question and then find it out and bring back the answer the next time you see a person. If you truly know the Lord then you are a princess in His kingdom, hold your head high and boast in Him as being your King and you being His child... just be careful to give glory to Him

[gbear]

I'm brand new; I browsed for this topic but couldn't find it. The topic is from Matthew 4:1-11 and Luke 4:1-13 - the Temptation of Jesus. Most people seem to want to automatically make everything a "WWJD" moment. Nothing wrong with that, obviously, but I feel that this story is not about how to resist temptation; there are other scriptures that deal with that. I feel that this is about who Jesus is and what kind of Messiah he will be. The Spirit led him into the wilderness after his baptism - he didn't just go there for the heck of it.

Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I feel that we are minimizing the impact of this story by trying to make it about US. We don't use the crucifixion story to remind us to "hang in there when the going gets tough", so why do we make this story about our response to temptation instead of making it a demonstration of what God meant when he said "You are my Son..."

Thanks for any responses...

Dianne
I think you make a good point! Its about Him first, our relationship to Him second, about each other third, then about ourselves.

Simplifying this passage...
James 4:7- Submit therefore to God, resist the devil and he will flee from you.

But then looking at it your way... Jesus went into the wilderness to submit to God, knowing that He would be tempted and tried... but He is our perfect sacrifice without spot or blemish. The Levites used to inspect and examine the livestock before sacrifice to make sure there was no blemish... I believe this was the beginning of that process for our Lord.

[keeptrying]

anyone can help me, please. i get realy imbarresesd when im in church. the reason for this is when people ask questions about the bible readings and i cant answer them. I honestly can say that i do not read the bible verry often atall. I dont mind saying that i have a learning dissability and i am not able to answer questions even though i have listened verry carefully. I get so imbaressed and get so scared to talk. I wish i wassent like this. I went to a speacial school and worked individually. I would not beable to work with others. still have the problem at 23 years. i get verry confussed and i cant take in too much information. I get told off for giving in work and exams in late. too much for me to handle. Please give me advice anyone. I dont mind saying this as i rather people ask then not say at all.
If I were you I would go to my paster and explain my situation to him. He could then pass this information on to others in a discreet manner so that you could enjoy your bible study classes. God bless, bible study is for learning if we knew it all we would not go. :preach: I don't know it all.:)

[meganahan]

A couple of people in my Sunday school class are uncomfortable reading out loud. Quite often we all take a turn reading a passage from our bible study book or the Bible. Once we figured out that some people really didn't like reading out loud, we stopped doing the "around the circle" kind of reading order. We skip around more and ask for volunteers instead of putting people on the spot.

[Daniels]

God bless you.