I cannot find salvation (in print)

[NHB_MMA]

I am sure I once read a simple explanation of salvation on the OCA web site, where I have gathered much of what I know about Orthodoxy. I believe it broke it down into:

1. faith/acceptance
2. baptism
3. receiving of the Spirit

I cannot locate it, or any other good explanation. Any help?

[Dorothea]

There's a good book on salvation by Barbara Pappas. It's called something like "Am I Saved?" It explains all about the process of salvation. I hope that helps.

[Xpycoctomos]

For us salvation is a process that never really ends. It does happen to us, it is something that we participate in. Salvation is our walk with Christ. It is always dynamic, never stagnant. We are either moving towards God or away from him. Salvation in this lifetime is not understood in binary terms (saved or not saved) but in constant terms (running the race).

We could sat that race beginswith baptism, nut quite honestly it begins at the moment of our creation.

Even in heaven we continue to move eternally toward God, so in a very real way, salvation contiunes, albeit differently as we are no longer in danger of falling away.

Sorry for being so esoteric or whatever. Hopefully that gives you something to chew on. But in the end, Google theosis and read some articles by Orthodox authors. That may give you the best (free) start :)

Xpy

[Protoevangel]

I am sure I once read a simple explanation of salvation on the OCA web site, where I have gathered much of what I know about Orthodoxy. I believe it broke it down into:

1. faith/acceptance
2. baptism
3. receiving of the Spirit

I cannot locate it, or any other good explanation. Any help?
Is this (http://www.oca.org/QA.asp?ID=36&SID=) the one you were looking for?

[NHB_MMA]

For us salvation is a process that never really ends. It does happen to us, it is something that we participate in. Salvation is our walk with Christ. It is always dynamic, never stagnant. We are either moving towards God or away from him. Salvation in this lifetime is not understood in binary terms (saved or not saved) but in constant terms (running the race).

We could sat that race beginswith baptism, nut quite honestly it begins at the moment of our creation.

Even in heaven we continue to move eternally toward God, so in a very real way, salvation contiunes, albeit differently as we are no longer in danger of falling away.

Sorry for being so esoteric or whatever. Hopefully that gives you something to chew on. But in the end, Google theosis and read some articles by Orthodox authors. That may give you the best (free) start :)

Xpy

That wouldn't make sense in and of itself without further elaboration.

There has to be a beginning. There has to be a point at which a person accepts the faith and willingly decides it is something he wishes to follow. I would suspect that Catholics and Orthodox would term that a sacrament of Confirmation, whereas Protestants basically believe in the same thing through an individual act of prayer...IMO.

I do believe in the necessity of baptism for salvation. I myself an NOT baptized, as I was raised in a Protestant upbringing I now believe to teach (a commonly accepted) heresy on this particular issue. In this stage of searching in my life, I am not yet a member of a congregation and therefore remain unbaptized. I have to admit I have a fear of baptism within a church such as the OC because, with most baptized as infants, I think I'll look absolutely ridiculous. Back to the matter at hand, baptism in a faith you really don't follow and believe much in (such as a non-devout that was baptized then never pursued the faith) has to be worthless.

I would argue that the process would begin in an adult when he so much as expresses interest in the faith, pursuing baptism, etc. I would argue that the process begins when an infant is baptized, but really takes roots at a confirmation or later acceptance of the faith in that person's own life.

[Dorothea]

That wouldn't make sense in and of itself without further elaboration.

There has to be a beginning. There has to be a point at which a person accepts the faith and willingly decides it is something he wishes to follow. I would suspect that Catholics and Orthodox would term that a sacrament of Confirmation, whereas Protestants basically believe in the same thing through an individual act of prayer...IMO.

I do believe in the necessity of baptism for salvation. I myself an NOT baptized, as I was raised in a Protestant upbringing I now believe to teach (a commonly accepted) heresy on this particular issue. In this stage of searching in my life, I am not yet a member of a congregation and therefore remain unbaptized. I have to admit I have a fear of baptism within a church such as the OC because, with most baptized as infants, I think I'll look absolutely ridiculous. Back to the matter at hand, baptism in a faith you really don't follow and believe much in (such as a non-devout that was baptized then never pursued the faith) has to be worthless.

I would argue that the process would begin in an adult when he so much as expresses interest in the faith, pursuing baptism, etc. I would argue that the process begins when an infant is baptized, but really takes roots at a confirmation or later acceptance of the faith in that person's own life.
Yes, but baptism and chrismation are done one right after each other in one ceremony, basically. Just like they did from the beginning (it is in the Bible). Here's something Macarius explained to a friend of mine on baptism and chrismation (that would be confirmation to the Protestants):

The sacrament of confirmation is the same as the sacrament we call "Chrismation." In the ancient church, it was never separated from baptism. That is to say, if you were baptized, you were immediately chrismated. To separate them by so many years is to alter the meaning of the sacrament.

If it is sacramentally valid to baptize an infant, then they can recieve ANY sacrament (excepting those they are physically unable to recieve, like confession [since they can't talk] or marriage). If an infant can put on Christ then they can recieve the Holy Spirit in chrismation and the Body of Christ in eucharist.