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Optimax
22nd July 2008, 07:41 PM
There are so many "Grace" threads.
Reading through them I wonder what some actually believe what the grace of
God includes.
Unmerited Favor NOT ACCEPTED!
Be specific on what God's grace includes.
I start with the grace of healing.
What do you think grace includes?
Imana
22nd July 2008, 08:58 PM
When I think of grace, being spiritually blessed by God comes to mind.
Spiritual blessings are for everyone who comes to God and He's not prejudice or partial about that. So natually, saying that grace is also His unmerited favor makes sense. No matter what race or sex you are what or church affiliation you are apart of, God is for you!
And besides that, He was for all of us when He sent His Son to die for us! Now if that aint unmerited favor then I don't know what is! ^_^
pinetree
22nd July 2008, 09:52 PM
When I think of grace, being spiritually blessed by God comes to mind.
Spiritual blessings are for everyone who comes to God and He's not prejudice or partial about that. So natually, saying that grace is also His unmerited favor makes sense. No matter what race or sex you are what or church affiliation you are apart of, God is for you!
And besides that, He was for all of us when He sent His Son to die for us! Now if that aint unmerited favor then I don't know what is! ^_^
how have you been Imana:wave: hope all is well!:thumbsup:
pinetree
22nd July 2008, 09:54 PM
There are so many "Grace" threads.
Reading through them I wonder what some actually believe what the grace of
God includes.
Unmerited Favor NOT ACCEPTED!
Be specific on what God's grace includes.
I start with the grace of healing.
What do you think grace includes?
Hi enchalada.:wave:
Romans 4:16 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=52&chapter=4&verse=16&version=31&context=verse)
Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham's offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.
seems like faith through grace!
Acts 20:32 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=51&chapter=20&verse=32&version=31&context=verse)
"Now I commit you to God and to the word of his grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.
his word is grace,that means it imparts his laws,will,guidance,on our hearts!
He puts in there,what my human effort,or external rules could not do.
Acts 18:27 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=51&chapter=18&verse=27&version=31&context=verse)
When Apollos wanted to go to Achaia, the brothers encouraged him and wrote to the disciples there to welcome him. On arriving, he was a great help to those who by grace had believed.
Seems like these fellows believed because of grace.
JimfromOhio
22nd July 2008, 10:47 PM
Subcribing :)
FoundInGrace
22nd July 2008, 11:28 PM
I believe grace is an empowering enabling from God given to us to do or be given what we normally would not be able to do in our own strength or be entitled to.
I am still learning though and open to learn on this
Moriah_Conquering_Wind
23rd July 2008, 12:07 AM
Why would unmerited favour not be acceptable? It bes the very first thing that sprang to mind for Moriah, and not because it bes any "buzzword" but because its experience of God's grace can be so concisely summarised by that phrase. He pours out love and kindness and tender ATTENTIONS toward one so wretched and miserable and undeserving, what else should it call this then if not unmerited favour? Psalm 107 for example bes filled with this grace -- that all those in diverse ways what bes wicked and corrupt and through evildoing bring pain and suffering and oppression and hardship upon themselves, the moment they cry out to Him HE hears them in their distress and hastens -- HASTENS!! -- to come to their aid. Truly He treats with us as a father with his most precious and beloved sons. That bes grace indeed.
ARBITER01
23rd July 2008, 12:34 AM
Grace can be seen as a divine gift in the scriptures and also a divine work of GOD. That is just to name a couple descriptions of it.
Jimbeaux
23rd July 2008, 06:58 AM
Grace means that there is nothing I can do to make God love me more and there is nothing I can do to make Him love me less. ~Philip Yancey, What’s So Amazing About Grace?
BTW, This is one of the most life-changing books ever written on how to receive and give grace.
If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong.
~C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain
JimfromOhio
23rd July 2008, 07:10 AM
Grace means that there is nothing I can do to make God love me more and there is nothing I can do to make Him love me less. ~Philip Yancey, What’s So Amazing About Grace?
BTW, This is one of the most life-changing books ever written on how to receive and give grace.
If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong.
~C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain
Yes, it is a GREAT book. I enjoyed reading it myself. :thumbsup:
Optimax
23rd July 2008, 01:27 PM
Grace can be seen as a divine gift in the scriptures and also a divine work of GOD. That is just to name a couple descriptions of it.
What you give here is a general description of grace, just like "unmerited favor".
If I had just heard of God's Grace and someone defined it in such general terms.
How am I to know what God's Grace really is. Not in general but specificly what grace includes.
For instance when Paul was told "My grace is sufficient for thee".
How would Paul or anyone else know what God had provided if the specifics of "Grace" are not known?
JimfromOhio
23rd July 2008, 01:53 PM
What you give here is a general description of grace, just like "unmerited favor".
If I had just heard of God's Grace and someone defined it in such general terms.
How am I to know what God's Grace really is. Not in general but specificly what grace includes.
For instance when Paul was told "My grace is sufficient for thee".
How would Paul or anyone else know what God had provided if the specifics of "Grace" are not known?
Wow... Now, I can see why you like legalism.
Optimax
23rd July 2008, 01:58 PM
Wow... Now, I can see why you like legalism.
Don't know about legalism.
But I do like to understand things.
I believe God wants us to.
Years ago I had that question. What is God's Grace?
If I do not know. What good will it do me or anyone else.
I learned through the word the specifics of what God's Grace is therefore making it possible to do what Rom. 5: 2 says.
JimfromOhio
23rd July 2008, 02:06 PM
Don't know about legalism.
But I do like to understand things.
I believe God wants us to.
Years ago I had that question. What is God's Grace?
If I do not know. What good will it do me or anyone else.
I learned through the word the specifics of what God's Grace is therefore making it possible to do what Rom. 5: 2 says.
The WHOLE New Testament is about GRACE (while the WHOLE Old Testament is about LAW). I guess you don't know God's grace if you say know alot about God.
JCFantasy23
23rd July 2008, 02:07 PM
Before this forum, I never really thought about the word 'grace' so much. I also thought more in terms of God's blessings. One word for another I suppose.
Optimax
23rd July 2008, 02:31 PM
The WHOLE New Testament is about GRACE (while the WHOLE Old Testament is about LAW). I guess you don't know God's grace if you say know alot about God.
God made the specifics of the law known so that people could understand it.
God also made the specifics of "Grace" known so that people can understand it.
Perhaps some of those who use the word "Grace" so much really have no idea about what grace is.
Except in general terms which leaves the hearer with a big question mark.
Like, "OK what is Grace"?
ARBITER01
23rd July 2008, 03:08 PM
What you give here is a general description of grace, just like "unmerited favor".
If I had just heard of God's Grace and someone defined it in such general terms.
How am I to know what God's Grace really is. Not in general but specificly what grace includes.
For instance when Paul was told "My grace is sufficient for thee".
How would Paul or anyone else know what God had provided if the specifics of "Grace" are not known?
7 (NKJV) always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
If my generalized explanation is too hard for you to understand, I don't think expounding on it any further is going to do much but get more questions from you.
Divine gift of GOD and divine work of GOD do quite well to explain grace in the bible. It's not really that hard.
map4
23rd July 2008, 03:34 PM
What you give here is a general description of grace, just like "unmerited favor".
If I had just heard of God's Grace and someone defined it in such general terms.
How am I to know what God's Grace really is. Not in general but specificly what grace includes.
For instance when Paul was told "My grace is sufficient for thee".
How would Paul or anyone else know what God had provided if the specifics of "Grace" are not known?
The WHOLE New Testament is about GRACE (while the WHOLE Old Testament is about LAW). I guess you don't know God's grace if you say know alot about God.
God made the specifics of the law known so that people could understand it.
God also made the specifics of "Grace" known so that people can understand it.
Perhaps some of those who use the word "Grace" so much really have no idea about what grace is.
Except in general terms which leaves the hearer with a big question mark.
Like, "OK what is Grace"?
If my generalized explanation is too hard for you to understand, I don't think expounding on it any further is going to do much but get more questions from you.
Divine gift of GOD and divine work of GOD do quite well to explain grace in the bible. It's not really that hard.
I think the question is...if someone does not know anything about God's grace...how would you explain the terms to them? What do they mean and what does it include?
Unmerited favor?
Divine gift of God?
Divine work of God?
It's easy to say those...but what are the "specifics"?
Pretend you are explaining it to a child :D
Seriosly...some people actually do not understand His grace and all that it entails. This is not a WoF/non WoF only issue.
People reading this need to understand.
Some of you have been wanting to discuss grace...now is the time to get into the specifics so there is no doubt what grace means.
The Lord is my banner
23rd July 2008, 03:41 PM
Mercy is when we don't get the bad stuff we deserve - eg. punishment for sin, death, separation from God.
Grace is when we get what we don't deserve - every blessing God possesses and has lavished upon us, eg. life, forgiveness, a restored relationship with Himself, joy, healing and restoration of our lives etc.....
JimfromOhio
23rd July 2008, 03:47 PM
God made the specifics of the law known so that people could understand it.
God also made the specifics of "Grace" known so that people can understand it.
Perhaps some of those who use the word "Grace" so much really have no idea about what grace is.
Except in general terms which leaves the hearer with a big question mark.
Like, "OK what is Grace"?
GRACE is His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue. (2 Peter 1.3)
Reading Peter saying, "His divine power hath given unto us all things" (v. 3). When we became a believer, we gained instant possession of all things that pertain to life and godliness according to God's grace as well as His will. The source of all things pertaining to life and godliness is God's divine power called GRACE which having God's own overwhelming energy that is concentrated on providing all our needs. God gave us our potential in terms that we didn't earn it because it was undeserved and offered by grace according to His Soveriegn Will. Our salvation provides everything necessary to transform us on the inside and the outside that therefore we have no excuse for not living godly lives because of God's sufficient GRACE. God is constantly leading us (Rom. 8:14) and all we need to do is apply our will to HIS will to follow because God has already given us strength beyond our wildest dreams (Phil. 4:13).
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ. (Ephesians 1.3)
In that verse, Paul wrote that we have been blessed "with all spiritual blessings." The Greek word translated "spiritual" (pneumatikos) in the New Testament always refers to the work of the Holy Spirit that ALL God's blessings are given to us through the power and grace of the Holy Spirit. We have to remember that we Christians are not citizens of the earth as we are citizens of heaven. Philippians 3:20 says plainly, "Our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ." Christians have a dual citizenship however earth is a sinful place while Heaven is beautiful and sinless that we are to remember that we are citizens of heaven even though we live in a foreign world. We CAN'T live here on earth as we will in Heaven. we are in Christ His position is our position, His privilege is our privilege, His possessions are our possessions, and His practice our practice. We are significant not because of who we are, but because of who we are in Christ. As Paul said, "By the grace of God I am what I am" (1 Cor. 15:10).
With that in mind, I am reminded that "God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work." (2 Corinthians 9:8). Working on of faith means nothing if you don't act on your faith. If you don't act, then you don't have faith. Through GRACE, "Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything." (James 1:4). Grace of heart is a gift from God and this has nothing to do with the thorns because God change our circumstances by changing us internally, by allowing Him to lift us above our present thorn and He will lead us into His will.
ARBITER01
23rd July 2008, 03:47 PM
I think the question is...if someone does not know anything about God's grace...how would you explain the terms to them? What do they mean and what does it include?
Unmerited favor?
Divine gift of God?
Divine work of God?
It's easy to say those...but what are the "specifics"?
Pretend you are explaining it to a child :D
Seriosly...some people actually do not understand His grace and all that it entails. This is not a WoF/non WoF only issue.
People reading this need to understand.
Some of you have been wanting to discuss grace...now is the time to get into the specifics so there is no doubt what grace means.
As an example, Grace is experienced when we are born again. It is GOD who drawed us, and led us to choose HIM, and gave us the faith inside to ask for forgiveness and overcome the old man not wanting to die.
We experience a divine gift granted unto us that we would feel completely unworthy to receive if we understood it ahead of time, but also we understand that it was a divine work that brought about that gift and the resulting renewed spirit within us.
There is at no point that we did anything in the process of our salvation, it was all GOD. We have no credit in it, hence it is a divine work of GOD. Man has no claim to it.
JimfromOhio
23rd July 2008, 03:48 PM
Understanding Grace when focusing on Faith (http://jimreformedtheology.blogspot.com/2008/07/understanding-grace-when-focusing-on.html)
In the Old Testament, we undertood how powerful God's law was and how to have faith under the law.
In the New Testement, I see that many of us do not fully understand how powerful God's grace is and how to have faith under grace. How much grace can do for us without an ounce of effort from our flesh. 1 Corinthians 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me.
Many of us fail to understand, receive and live out God's conditional grace, forgiveness and practice of faith. At the same time, many of us fail to use grace for unconditional love, forgiveness and grace to other people. 2 Corinthians 8:7 But just as you excel in everything—in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in complete earnestness and in your love for us —see that you also excel in this grace of giving. Colossians 4:6 Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.
There is so much focus on the merit of faith but not enough of grace of faith. There's lack of full understanding of the true meaning of: Theology of Grace
Acts 15:11
No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."
Acts 20:32
"Now I commit you to God and to the word of his grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.
Romans 3:24
and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Romans 5:2
through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God.
Romans 5:15
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
Romans 5:17
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
Romans 6:14
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Romans 11:6
And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
Ephesians 1:7
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace
Ephesians 2:5
made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.
Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
Ephesians 3:7
I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God's grace given me through the working of his power.
Romans 12:3
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you.
2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.
2 Corinthians 12:9 (My personal favorite)
But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me.
Ephesians 6:24
Grace to all who love our Lord Jesus Christ with an undying love.
2 Thessalonians 2:16
May our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who loved us and by his grace gave us eternal encouragement and good hope
JimfromOhio
23rd July 2008, 03:49 PM
Strong's # 5486 xa/risma Charisma (i.e. gift of divine GRACE)
a favour with which one receives without any merit of his own
the gift of divine grace
the gift of faith, knowledge, holiness, virtue
the economy of divine grace, by which the pardon of sin and eternal salvation is appointed to sinners in consideration of the merits of Christ laid hold of by faith
grace or gifts denoting extraordinary powers, distinguishing certain Christians and enabling them to serve the church of Christ, the reception of which is due to the power of divine grace operating on their souls by the Holy Spirit
KJV (17) - free gift, 2; gift, 15;
NAS (17) - favor, 1; free gift, 3; gift, 5; gifts, 7; spiritual gift, 1;
ARBITER01
23rd July 2008, 04:12 PM
Additionally, grace is absolutely intertwined with GOD's decisions and will. GOD's power and grace will not be bought onto the scene to perform anything unless GOD decides to do such. We are merely instruments of HIS righteousness, we do not make the decisions nor have the power to perform the results, we are to be obediant sons exactly like Jesus gave us as an example to be.
We can seek GOD's action in a situation, but it remains HIS decision to perform, we shall have no credit in it if HE does. We do not take glory over GOD's decisions and actions. That is a part of understanding grace and working with GOD.
Optimax
23rd July 2008, 05:43 PM
Faith in the OT under the law operates, works the same, is the same, and was/is done on purpose the same as faith in the NT under grace.
Grace includes everything that God has provided for man.
Salvation, healing, deliverance, life, relationships, security/safety, protection, comfort, success, prosperity(not speaking of just money), ability, knowledge, understanding, wisdom, gifts of the spirit, ministry gifts, and anything else we need or desire.
Key to experiencing God's grace is through faith we access it.
pinetree
23rd July 2008, 06:27 PM
Faith in the OT under the law operates, works the same, is the same, and was/is done on purpose the same as faith in the NT under grace.
Grace includes everything that God has provided for man.
Salvation, healing, deliverance, life, relationships, security/safety, protection, comfort, success, prosperity(not speaking of just money), ability, knowledge, understanding, wisdom, gifts of the spirit, ministry gifts, and anything else we need or desire.
Key to experiencing God's grace is through faith we access it.
I agree,we see grace in the ot.:)
But surely more stressed in the nt, as a new and better way,a change happened on the cross,a new covenant.
John 1:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=50&chapter=1&verse=17&version=31&context=verse)
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
Romans 5:15 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=52&chapter=5&verse=15&version=31&context=verse)
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
Seems like the advent of grace came by jesus Christ.
Romans 5:15 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=52&chapter=5&verse=15&version=31&context=verse)
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
Romans 8:3 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=52&chapter=8&verse=3&version=31&context=verse)
For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man,
The new covenant of grace,means no more of my righteousness,but His laws written in my heart.:clap:
Romans 5:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=52&chapter=5&verse=17&version=31&context=verse)
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
Jesus is our grace provision.:)
We access it by a simple task,,we go to the throne.
Hebrews 4:16 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=65&chapter=4&verse=16&version=31&context=verse)
Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
Optimax
24th July 2008, 02:48 PM
Jesus is our grace provision.:)
We access it by a simple task,,we go to the throne.
Hebrews 4:16 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=65&chapter=4&verse=16&version=31&context=verse)
Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
OK. Now you are at the throne.
How do you access it.
What is the simple task?
Can't be just going to the throne.
Has something to do with when you get there.
What are you going to do to access it?
pinetree
24th July 2008, 06:57 PM
OK. Now you are at the throne.
How do you access it.
What is the simple task?
Can't be just going to the throne.
Has something to do with when you get there.
What are you going to do to access it?
ask.:)
JimfromOhio
24th July 2008, 07:10 PM
OK. Now you are at the throne.
How do you access it.
What is the simple task?
Can't be just going to the throne.
Has something to do with when you get there.
What are you going to do to access it?
This is the package of spiritual resources we have received in salvation which enables us to do everything in which we are strengthened unto all things in Christ as long as we keep legalism out of grace. When Paul said, "Our sufficiency is from God" , we have all the grace we need. In 2 Corinthians 3:5, "Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves but our adequacy is from God who also made us adequate"
Optimax
24th July 2008, 07:16 PM
ask.:)
OK.
What if you don't receive what you ask for?
pinetree
24th July 2008, 08:02 PM
This is the package of spiritual resources we have received in salvation which enables us to do everything in which we are strengthened unto all things in Christ as long as we keep legalism out of grace. When Paul said, "Our sufficiency is from God" , we have all the grace we need. In 2 Corinthians 3:5, "Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves but our adequacy is from God who also made us adequate"
:thumbsup:
JimfromOhio
24th July 2008, 08:03 PM
OK.
What if you don't receive what you ask for?
Are you talking about grace?
Or
Or you asking what would grace do if one did not get what asked for (i.e. healing)?
pinetree
24th July 2008, 08:06 PM
OK.
What if you don't receive what you ask for?
what if i asked for grace,it is the throne of grace.:)
That is why it is in scripture.
pinetree
24th July 2008, 08:07 PM
Are you talking about grace?
Or
Or you asking what would grace do if one did not get what asked for (i.e. healing)?
Thanks Jim,exactly! I just ate,my mind is groggy.:D
Optimax
24th July 2008, 08:16 PM
what if i asked for grace,it is the throne of grace.:)
That is why it is in scripture.
What grace are you going to ask for?
Grace to do?
Or grace to accomplish?
grace to ?
The grace ask for should help a need.
What need would you ask grace for(an example would be good)?
Heb 4:16-5:1
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace , that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
KJV
JimfromOhio
24th July 2008, 08:38 PM
What grace are you going to ask for?
Grace to do?
Or grace to accomplish?
grace to ?
The grace ask for should help a need.
What need would you ask grace for(an example would be good)?
Heb 4:16-5:1
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace , that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
KJV
We are "a people for God's own possession" (1 Pet. 2:9) which means under the New Covenant every believer enjoys intimacy and access to God under God's wonderful grace. That's why the writer of Hebrews says, "Let us therefore draw near with confidence to the throne of grace" (Heb. 4:16). that He will provide the necessary grace, that is the necessary favor in spite of our iniquities that we need, the necessary mercy, the withholding of judgment and we will find from Him mercy and grace. This is just a tremendous, tremendous promise. In Christ we have all the power of grace we will ever need. When you are filled with the Holy Spirit, then Jesus through His GRACE just flows out of you.
Many Christians seem to understand the concept of being saved by grace, but they have missed the concept of being sustained by grace. James D. Mallory, Jr.
pinetree
24th July 2008, 08:39 PM
What grace are you going to ask for?
Grace to do?
Or grace to accomplish?
grace to ?
The grace ask for should help a need.
What need would you ask grace for(an example would be good)?
Heb 4:16-5:1
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace , that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
KJV
14Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin. 16Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
In context of hebrews 4.
The begining of the chapter talks about entering into rest.
Down around verse 16,seems to indicate that mercy and grace are found at the throne,and it also mentions sin.
So as an example in my life.I go to the throne to receive mercy,and reasurrance of Gods love for me,even when I blow it.
Also,I have struggled with fear from time to time.I go to the throne and ask,and over the years I have alot less fear.
I go to the throne and find rest,when my natural man cant rest.
I have had times of going to the throne for grace to love more in my life.
Optimax
24th July 2008, 08:46 PM
14Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin. 16Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
In context of hebrews 4.
The begining of the chapter talks about entering into rest.
Down around verse 16,seems to indicate that mercy and grace are found at the throne,and it also mentions sin.
So as an example in my life.I go to the throne to receive mercy,and reasurrance of Gods love for me,even when I blow it.
Also,I have struggled with fear from time to time.I go to the throne and ask,and over the years I have alot less fear.
I go to the throne and find rest,when my natural man cant rest.
I have had times of going to the throne for grace to love more in my life.
Thanks for your honest answer.
Helps me better understand where you are "coming from".:)
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