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Jayangel81
19th July 2008, 10:45 PM
I was thinking to myself tonight, what scares me about the bible the most, not just for my sake but for the peoples sake..
Im wondering what part of the bible scares you the most, what passages.
These two verses scare me the most:
Revelations 3:14-22 Christ warns us about Lukewarm believers, and how He will spew them out of His mouth. There are quite a few. I used to be one.
lets just say God took care of that one heh..the hard way ;)
(Im difficult what can I say:))
And the second :
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
(This is every preachers nightmare) To be honest? It is very easy to take Gods Word out of context. I see it on this site all the time. I do not believe we should be preaching unless we fully know that the Holy Ghost is guiding us completely.
So what part of the bible concerns you? Maybe not for your sake but your brothers and sisters out there? :)
heymikey80
19th July 2008, 11:04 PM
Matthew 23.
I wonder what we're shutting out, that should be humbly considered as seeking the Kingdom.
I wonder what our "tithe of mint and cumin" are.
I wonder what we consider more valuable than its creator.
I wonder what we think we're hiding from God.
I wonder what people God is sending to us, that we're persecuting.
Light So Shine
20th July 2008, 12:07 AM
Generally speaking, I think a lot of people become fixated on the 'damage' and woe that God is capable of inflicting upon us. The consequences of living a wayward life cannot be denied; but they can definitely be overstated.
It never ceases to amaze me, the degree to which some people of faith, become wrapped up in the reality of their own damnation. Specifically, the book of Revelations. They cannot think about anything, other than their own potentiality for sin. It is more than a little scary.:eek::(
Sure, there is that element to the scripture, but there's so much love, too. :holy::prayer:
paperneck
20th July 2008, 01:33 AM
personally i fear that i haven't given up enough of wat i have.
i don't think i cling particuraly tightly to the things i own, but i still hold onto them.
sometimes i think in order to follow christ i have to give up absolutly everything. maybe that is where the following is supposed to begin, maybe that is true faith; that like John the Baptist and Elijah God will provide for us because we know him.
Jayangel81
20th July 2008, 01:52 AM
personally i fear that i haven't given up enough of wat i have.
i don't think i cling particuraly tightly to the things i own, but i still hold onto them.
sometimes i think in order to follow christ i have to give up absolutly everything. maybe that is where the following is supposed to begin, maybe that is true faith; that like John the Baptist and Elijah God will provide for us because we know him.
Sometimes it is hard to let go of the things we own. Alot of times we do need to. Before I had a tug (more like a yank:)) to let things I own go, God taught me to give Him my time. Once you do that, you would be suprised on how easy it is to let the things you have go as well as the things you normally want but they just dont seem to matter anymore.
heyheyletsgo
20th July 2008, 01:55 AM
the part where jesus eats all the humans up i hope he doesn't eat me :(((((
paperneck
20th July 2008, 11:22 AM
sometimes i think i should get to the point where i only own the clothes on my back.
i know most things are easy to let go of. i still get nervous at the thought of not having food or shelter, if those things are to be given up.
Criada
20th July 2008, 02:47 PM
I am not afraid of anything that comes from God.
Yes, there are things that may not be comfortable, but, His plans for us are good.
Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
What He plans is more than good enough for me.:)
The only things that can harm us are the consequences of our own sin... and even in that, God is faithful, and if we repent, He will restore us.
suzybeezy
20th July 2008, 05:58 PM
I've always found these scriptures concerning:
Luke 13
22 Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?" He said to them, 24 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.'
"But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.'
26 "Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.'
27 "But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!' 28 "There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
When I'm doubting myself, these words come to mind. When I get that feeling, I pray to God that he will continue to help me grow so that he will know me.
Jayangel81
20th July 2008, 08:02 PM
I've always found these scriptures concerning:
Luke 13
22 Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?" He said to them, 24 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.'
"But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.'
26 "Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.'
27 "But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!' 28 "There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
When I'm doubting myself, these words come to mind. When I get that feeling, I pray to God that he will continue to help me grow so that he will know me.
I think our enemy absolutly love verses like this, how easy it is to twist it and make us doubt.
It is true tho theyre are many false converts out there. This is why we need to reach out to believers more than ever. You cant pofess Christ and continue in your wickedness. Just dont work that way
paperneck
21st July 2008, 03:08 AM
I think our enemy absolutly love verses like this, how easy it is to twist it and make us doubt.
It is true tho theyre are many false converts out there. This is why we need to reach out to believers more than ever. You cant pofess Christ and continue in your wickedness. Just dont work that way
i understand what you're saying., but can you honestly say that you have been without sin since you came to christ.
i think some people haven gotten very close to living without sin, and some may have actually done it, but i know since accepting Christ i have stumbled often.
it makes me wonder who we may consider wicked. Right now i don't feel i have the right to consider anyone wicked, nor do i think myself less wicked than any other. Perhaps i am more wicked and low than those you refer to.If we are going to discuss what it means to continue in your wickedness after accepting Christ how can you point your finger outward before at yourself. How then do you set a standard of what is stumbling and what is living in old wickedness.
God can call one man bad and another good. I don't have that right so i bite my tongue instead. I still fear that salvation requires more than the blood of christ. i fear the blood of christ is an invitation to redemption and we must go further. i pray often "what more? what more?"
Benjamin1981
21st July 2008, 03:36 AM
Bible scares me, But God doesn't. :D
FrederickM
21st July 2008, 04:32 AM
It scares me god has killed even the sinners in the past. I do not believe that wholly though.
Nadiine
21st July 2008, 06:56 AM
Bible scares me, But God doesn't. :D
so in other words, you create the God you want instead of what's defined for Christianity from the Bible? I'd like to know what you base your faith on if the bible is all wrong about who God is from people who testify as eyewitnesses who were with Jesus personally or experienced His workings in humanity over a span of thousands of years.
& did they LIE about the cross and atonement thru His blood too?
Anyways, to the OP.... =)
A few things scare me... what scares me [when comparing things I see in this life to scripture] is US.
how righteous we think we are when we actually are not - how we think we don't deserve judgment or punishment for the horrible nasty things we do, say and think,
that we think we can judge God based upon our own intellect & feelings as if He's wrong & He should learn from us what's right & best....
How we change God; lowering Him to our standards and understanding instead of letting scripture define who He is,
How we refuse to obey the things He tells us and then blame HIm for all the evil and trouble in the world today that causes suffering, pain & death...
When I read the bible, it's my own sinful nature that scares me when compared to a holy God who wants a pure creation who loves and recognizes Him as their creator. (Dad).
Who is trying to reach down and rescue us, but we're too stubborn, selfish, in love with our sin and self righteous to see that.
What scares me the most is an eternity without Him (final judgment). But thankfully, He's provided an escape from that separation which I gladly accept!
:clap: :bow: :holy: :angel:
Jayangel81
21st July 2008, 12:08 PM
i understand what you're saying., but can you honestly say that you have been without sin since you came to christ.
i think some people haven gotten very close to living without sin, and some may have actually done it, but i know since accepting Christ i have stumbled often.
it makes me wonder who we may consider wicked. Right now i don't feel i have the right to consider anyone wicked, nor do i think myself less wicked than any other. Perhaps i am more wicked and low than those you refer to.If we are going to discuss what it means to continue in your wickedness after accepting Christ how can you point your finger outward before at yourself. How then do you set a standard of what is stumbling and what is living in old wickedness.
God can call one man bad and another good. I don't have that right so i bite my tongue instead. I still fear that salvation requires more than the blood of christ. i fear the blood of christ is an invitation to redemption and we must go further. i pray often "what more? what more?"
I want to appologize I probably should have been more clear. There is a difference in stumbling(and trying not to Sin) in Sin and continuing(its when you practice it) in Sin.
We are always going to screw up, its the way it is, Paul knew that check out Romans7:9-25) But if we were truly from God we would not continuously practice sin day in and day out. We now have the Seed of God. How do you know when you stumble in Sin and practice it?
Its simple lets take fornication for example. You know its a Sin BUT....you have a girlfriend you know sex before marriage is wrong but you ignore that completly and practice sex every day. Maybe Im not explaining this right but you know what I mean right?
stumbling would be me doing Sin on accident. We all Sin its the way it is but we should be doing our best not to, thats the point.
There are many people who profess Christ, but they stay in the world. they are part of the world. They keep in fornication,adultry theyre mouths are with complete filth they dont listen to Gods teaching, they are completly disobedient. they care more about material items more than they care about Jesus. List goes on.
They dont even know what the true meaning of Romans 3:23
For all have sinned. And have fallen Short of the Glory of God.
If they truly knew what God thought about our Sins..If they knew what theyre Sin really does...lets just say they would be trembling.
There is only one reason why you were made right. And that was because Jesus 2000 years ago took the cup of Gods wrath for you. Which was saved for you. That is why you can be right with God. Its by Grace through Faith that you recieve salvation. Your faith is credited to you for righteousness, Jesus's Righteousness. Thing is Jesus calls us to repentence, we are supposed to forsake our sins.
Jayangel81
21st July 2008, 12:12 PM
double post >.>
Jayangel81
21st July 2008, 12:15 PM
Anyways, to the OP.... =)
A few things scare me... what scares me [when comparing things I see in this life to scripture] is US.
how righteous we think we are when we actually are not - how we think we don't deserve judgment or punishment for the horrible nasty things we do, say and think,
that we think we can judge God based upon our own intellect & feelings as if He's wrong & He should learn from us what's right & best....
How we change God; lowering Him to our standards and understanding instead of letting scripture define who He is,
How we refuse to obey the things He tells us and then blame HIm for all the evil and trouble in the world today that causes suffering, pain & death...
When I read the bible, it's my own sinful nature that scares me when compared to a holy God who wants a pure creation who loves and recognizes Him as their creator. (Dad).
Who is trying to reach down and rescue us, but we're too stubborn, selfish, in love with our sin and self righteous to see that.
What scares me the most is an eternity without Him (final judgment). But thankfully, He's provided an escape from that separation which I gladly accept!
:clap: :bow: :holy: :angel:
Well said, I agree with you :hug:
dead2self
21st July 2008, 12:32 PM
The things that probably scares me the most is Jesus saying depart from me you workers of iniquity. Those to whom this is said are going to be people who claim Christ as Lord and are still lost. I grieves me that there will be many at the final judgement who will find out their profession of faith was not enough.
LilLamb219
21st July 2008, 01:48 PM
Fear not...applies to all of us Christians :)
Jayangel81
21st July 2008, 04:04 PM
Fear not...applies to all of us Christians :)
Your right we shouldnt be afraid, but remember not everyone who says they are one, really are one;)
That scares me, and the bible warns us of false converts quite a few times.
Nadiine
21st July 2008, 04:34 PM
Your right we shouldnt be afraid, but remember not everyone who says they are one, really are one;)
That scares me, and the bible warns us of false converts quite a few times.
Um ya - like Matthew 7 has some warnings.
Here's how I view it, even IF I think I was a wonderful, self sacrificing Christian who had works behind me like Mother Theresa, I'd STILL be scared to death standing in front of God face to face -
as He goes over my entire life of works and motives.
*FAINT*
To me, it's a matter of how much I haven't done that I could have done or should have done. Will I barely make it in the gates smelling like a BBQ pit??
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I get nervous just going to a Dr. for a checkup - imagine God for eternal judgment.
*faints again* lol
Bellicus
21st July 2008, 05:30 PM
Where the bible says that anyone that have gotten a taste of what that comes (or something similar) can't come back to the faith if they turn away from it, cause they will be mocking and crucifying Jesus again. And I've been off and on Christianity some times now and I have no idea if I've had that taste of heaven or not. But the last time i left faith it was because i had nothing good from it, no peace, no joy, nothing. I felt better by not being a christian then.
Light So Shine
21st July 2008, 09:19 PM
Um ya - like Matthew 7 has some warnings.
Here's how I view it, even IF I think I was a wonderful, self sacrificing Christian who had works behind me like Mother Theresa, I'd STILL be scared to death standing in front of God face to face -
as He goes over my entire life of works and motives.
*FAINT*
To me, it's a matter of how much I haven't done that I could have done or should have done. Will I barely make it in the gates smelling like a BBQ pit??
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I get nervous just going to a Dr. for a checkup - imagine God for eternal judgment.
*faints again* lolI do see what you are saying. At the same time, though, we cannot spend our whole lives, constantly worried about what we have done or not done to gain God's love.
We are human; He knows and understands that we, as people, and don't always behave as kindly, or generously, as we should. I don't think humans were designed to meet God's every expectation -- only to try to do so. Jesus understands our shortcomings, and he will forgive us for them if we are sincere, in trying to do good.:pray: I really do hope that is true.:groupray:
20MoreMiles
26th July 2008, 06:12 AM
True, God is very violent and doesn't mind topping a few people to show them. Look how he killed Job's entire family of loved ones, destroyed his farm and all that, to convince him that He exists. I hope he doesn't do that anymore.
Also took a look at this graph i ran into... google for images named "God satan killed".
Nadiine
26th July 2008, 07:57 AM
True, God is very violent and doesn't mind topping a few people to show them. Look how he killed Job's entire family of loved ones, destroyed his farm and all that, to convince him that He exists. I hope he doesn't do that anymore.
Also took a look at this graph i ran into... google for images named "God satan killed".
Man's FIRST problem is that He thinks God should think and operate like he does.
As if man's ideal of "Love and goodness" are supreme, and God's is lacking and God needs to consult us to know how to behave lovingly.
I'd point out that Jesus came and suffered at man's hands and was put to death when He did nothing wrong - all for our benefit.
Greater love has no man than to LAY DOWN HIS LIFE for a friend.
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I'd also point out that God didn't have to do that for us at all.
Unfortunately in many instances of God's harsh judgments, people are utterly ignoring what the people were doing (for hundreds of years) to deserve that hostile punishment they got.
Take a read of Jeremiah & Ezekiel... most also ignore how many years God waited to do deliver those punishments; giving them plenty of time to repent as He worked with them in mercy.
& when God would send His prophets that He raised up to go warn the people of His impending judgment to come, they'de persecute them & kill them to shut them up instead of repent!
:doh: :o
People only read the bits & pieces that they want to read, yet ignore or skip over all the things the people did to deserve them.
Let's acknowledge something important here:
ALL PEOPLE DESERVE GOD'S WRATH. They are not good, they do evil, they are rebellious and are prone to this by nature. Once we figure our true condition, we can start seeing who God is and that He isn't being mean or evil when He decides to take action against someone.
Then we can't ignore the issue of "the greater good". God WILL use a harsh action to produce an important outcome for whatever His purpose. His goal and purpose are to bring those who will repent to repentance.
If He has to make something happen for that to occur when the time is right, He will do it.
One example I use is a real-life story where a herd of horses was found to have a serious disease... authorities had to cull a large amount of them to protect the ones who weren't sick yet.. so they had to kill foals & pregnant mares, just terrible.
But it was for the greater good of all of them, otherwise the entire herd would most likely die.
Lastly, ALL LIFE IS HIS to take. Our life is a temporary gift, it isn't our own. He can take us back to Himself whenever He decides. He may have created someone to live just 5 years or 15 years or 25 years or 90 years.
That's His sovereignty.
The NT tells us that a man was born blind just for the purpose of God proving Himself true by way of miracle in healing him.
Jayangel81
27th July 2008, 12:40 AM
well said Nadiine :thumbsup:
Look how he killed Job's entire family of loved ones, destroyed his farm and all that, to convince him that He exists.
You need to reread the book of Job :)
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