Who has read the Book of Concord?

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Please help me out and answer honestly. This is just for my own interest, so let's keep it friendly. If I get a lot of responses, I may tally up the results and post them. Visitors are most welcome to participate.

Thanks all,

Mark



Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession?
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
What edition/translation have you read?
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?
Please add personal comments if you want.

[DaRev]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?

Yes. Required reading at seminary :P

If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?LCMS

What edition/translation have you read?Kolb/Wengert

Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?You betchya!

How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?It is a true exposition of the Scriptures and is thoroughly Scriptural.

I honestly believe that study of the Lutheran Confessions should be done by every Lutheran. Sadly, not enough pastors teach it.

[Radiata]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once? No

If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession? No
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination? LCMS
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation? Uh.. LCMS
What edition/translation have you read? Parts of it on bookofconcord.org
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? No
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? I would say that it accurately supplements scripture, though I cannot say for sure since I have read very little.
Please add personal comments if you want. I started reading the Large Chtechism, Smallclad Articles, the Creeds, but I realized that I need a better understanding of Scripture before I do this. I haven't even read the whole Bible yet. But I'm working on it. I read 4 books in the last week. (Ezra-Job)

EDIT: Oh and of course the small catechism.

[Tofferer]

Please help me out and answer honestly. This is just for my own interest, so let's keep it friendly. If I get a lot of responses, I may tally up the results and post them. Visitors are most welcome to participate.

Thanks all,

Mark



Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?

Yes, at least ten times.


If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?

LCMC


What edition/translation have you read?

Kolb/Wengert and Concordia Readers Edition


Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?

Regular reference


How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth?

Biblically sound and completely thorough in truth.


Please add personal comments if you want.



I think this book should be in the home of everyone who professes themselves to be a christian. It should always be studied with a Bible at hand for cross referencing the scriptures cited.

[Melethiel]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once? Probably, but not in any kind of order, so I'm really not sure.
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession? Yes
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination? Er...kind of in transition.
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
What edition/translation have you read? Whichever one is online. I assume that's the Triglotta.
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? Yes
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? Yes
Please add personal comments if you want.

[RadMan]

I've read some of it but it's archaic language is sometimes confusing. It takes a lot to get the content out of it.

Lifelong LCMS.

Triglota

Definitely reference

Bible first then Luther,Walther and BOC on the same level.

[IowaLutheran]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession?
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
What edition/translation have you read?
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?
Please add personal comments if you want.



1. Yes - most only once, but the Small Catechism, the AC, and parts of the Apology multiple times.
2. N/A
3. ELCA.
4. N/A
5. Kolb/Wengert.
6. The Small Catechism/AC and Apology I consult regularly, occasionally I look at the others.
7. Yes.

[BigNorsk]

Please help me out and answer honestly. This is just for my own interest, so let's keep it friendly. If I get a lot of responses, I may tally up the results and post them. Visitors are most welcome to participate.

Thanks all,

Mark



Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession?
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
What edition/translation have you read?
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?
Please add personal comments if you want.

1. Yes, several times.
2. N/A
3. Lutheran Brethren
4. N/A
5. Kolb/Wengert, Jacob's, Triglotta (English only)
6. Yes
7. Biblical Doctrine and truth.
8. I find the background information quite useful. I have read the Historical Introductions, available on the www.bookofconcord.org (http://www.bookofconcord.org) site. The second volume of Jacobs is all supporting material and Kolb's book, "Sources and Contexts of the Book of Concord".

[Jim47]

Over a year ago my monday night bible class all got the readers version of the BoC. We got though the Augberg's confession, and the large cathesism and someother things, but not the whole book.

While I subscribe to the whole BoC, my heart is in God's word, the bible itself. It was through His gracious word that I was called to faith and it will always have the the shop shelf in my heart.

If The Lord so blesses me I hope to continue to read the whole BoC through again, but better yet I hope that when we recieve our next Pastor that we will continue to study it. Our current Pastor has accepted a call to serve a congregation in Minn. and we helped pack him up last night and sent him off.

The only reason I see of great importance for the BoC was the origional reason for which it was written, to continue to fight against false teaching, but I am greatly comforted in that our Lord has promised to preserve His word for all generations. For this we should all be thankful.

[LilLamb219]

Have you read the Book of Concord? Most probably so...I have read it online, but haven't yet finished the new one I have at home. If so, more than once? Parts of it I have read more than once, but not in its entirety.
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession? Yes, I have read that.
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination? LCMS
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
What edition/translation have you read? The Online version mostly.
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? Yes, it's easier to copy and paste into discussions.
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? It's a true exposition of the Lutheran faith although not exhaustive. I have found it to be completely biblical.
Please add personal comments if you want.

[Zecryphon]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once? No
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession? Yes
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation? LCMS
What edition/translation have you read? Concordia Reader's Edition
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? Yes
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? I view it as an explanation and exposition of the Bible.

[porterross]

Have you read the Book of Concord? Yes.

If so, more than once? Certain parts, yes.

If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination? LCMS :)

What edition/translation have you read? Kolb/Wengert (planning to order the reader's addition very soon)

Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? Oh, my, yes!

How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblical doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? Sums it up and puts it all in proper perspective. Helps me to know that the confessing church is right where I belong. :)

Please add personal comments if you want. It's helped me tremendously to understand what no one here was equipped to teach me.

[RadMan]

Please add personal comments if you want. It's helped me tremendously to understand what no one here was equipped to teach me.Really? Did you ever ask? We have some high mucky-mucks here. :D

[Levahddi]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once? Yes
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession? -
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination? ELCA
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
What edition/translation have you read?Kolbe/Wengert
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? off and on
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? explanation/exposition
Please add personal comments if you want.
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[DaRev]

Really? Did you ever ask? We have some high mucky-mucks here. :D

I think "here" means her home church, not TCL. :)

[synger]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?


Skimmed most of it, read parts in more depth.



If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession?

Definitely



If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?

LCMS



If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?

N/A



What edition/translation have you read?

Reader's Edition



Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?

Yeah, I have it right near my computer for when I'm trying to explain things correctly in discussions in Theology or SFPC



How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?

I use it as a reference to pull together Biblical doctrine into a cohesive answer, especially when it gives me Scriptural references to look up for more information.



Please add personal comments if you want.

I also use the one-volume Dogmatics, but I find the BOC easier to read (though Dogmatics is easier to find things in)

[Till]

Hi Mark,

As your third question specifically allows for non-Lutherans to answer as well, I will do so



Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?

Parts of it I have read several times, the AC and the FC only partly


If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession?

see above


If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?

Officialy I am not member of any church in the moment. I was baptized into the Evangelical Chruch of Germany but left them years ago. I have visited an ELCE congregation recently but I am away from home most of the time for business. In fact I have not spend more than maybe 7 weeks in our in the UK during the last 12 months.


What edition/translation have you read?

Don't need a translation :D


Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?

I am one of the privileged few on this planet who have a copy of the 3 volumes Franz Piper Dogmatics in the original, German version. You cannot buy this one usually, I was really lucky/blessed to get it. I mainly use this as a reference trusting that it is faithful to Scriptures and the BoC


How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?

As an explanation, yes. And of course especially the AC and FC are also very interesting as historical records.

[porterross]

Really? Did you ever ask? We have some high mucky-mucks here. :D

High?
Mucky-mucks?

First, what are they ingesting to reach such heights and second, if they're stuck in the muck, would they even realize it in that state? :P



I think "here" means her home church, not TCL. :)


Yeppers! The mucky-muck in the cassock has it right. :D

[DaRev]

Yeppers! The mucky-muck in the cassock has it right. :D

A mucky-muck who is no longer stuck in the muck. ;)

[MarkRohfrietsch]

A mucky-muck who is no longer stuck in the muck. ;)

But Rev left his feet behind:D

[Zecryphon]

But Rev left his feet behind:D

No pain, no gain. :P

[RevCowboy]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once? Yes, both the translations of the Latin and German. I have read the whole thing a number of times intentionally, and more times unintentionally.
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession? Yes many, many times.

If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination? ELCIC
What edition/translation have you read? Kolb/ Wengert, Triglotta Concordia. I am hoping that Libronix finishes making their softward Mac compatiable soon, because my electronic version of the Kolb/Wengert is useless to me right now...

Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? Yes, all the time. Almost once a day on average.

How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? Yes. However, I do (as does the ELCIC) see the the Augusburg Confession and Small Catechism as the primary documents of the BoC, while the others reflect more contextual issues that the church of Germany was dealing with at the time. For example, most German Bishops did not convert to Lutheranism, while most Scandinavian Bishops did. Thus some of the issues that the other symbols speak about in regards to Bishops (see the Treatise on the Power and Primacy of the Pope) did not apply. I come from a Norwegian Lutheran tradition that upheld the AC and SC right from the get go. This does not mean that the other symbols of the BoC are unimportant or are not faithful (they are indeed important and faithful expositions of scripture), it simply points to the fact to that Scandinavian Lutherans felt that the AC and SC were the most important documents for them at time when the reformation reached Scandinavia.

[DaRev]

How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? Yes. However, I do (as does the ELCIC) see the the Augusburg Confession and Small Catechism as the primary documents of the BoC, while the others reflect more contextual issues that the church of Germany was dealing with at the time. For example, most German Bishops did not convert to Lutheranism, while most Scandinavian Bishops did. Thus some of the issues that the other symbols speak about in regards to Bishops (see the Treatise on the Power and Primacy of the Pope) did not apply. I come from a Norwegian Lutheran tradition that upheld the AC and SC right from the get go. This does not mean that the other symbols of the BoC are unimportant or are not faithful (they are indeed important and faithful expositions of scripture), it simply points to the fact to that Scandinavian Lutherans felt that the AC and SC were the most important documents for them at time when the reformation reached Scandinavia.




Interesting history here that I was not aware of concerning the Scandinavian church. It helps explain a lot of things. Thanks for that. :)

[Protoevangel]

1. Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?
Yes. Yes.

2. If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession?
See above.

3. If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?
Orthodox (I was ELCA, then LCMS when I read it)

4. If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
N/A

5. What edition/translation have you read?
Concordia Triglotta (http://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/LCMS/TrigBOC.pdf), bookofconcord.org, Reader's Edition, an English translation from the Greek (http://www.acta-et-scriptura.dk/Engl-transl.htm) of the Augsburg Confession

6. Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?
Not anymore.

7. How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?
Considering the time and circumstances, I can think of no better or more pious book of Theology that could be written by man.

8. Please add personal comments if you want.

[RadMan]

1. Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?
Yes. Yes.

2. If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession?
See above.

3. If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?
Orthodox (I was ELCA, then LCMS when I read it)

4. If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
N/A

5. What edition/translation have you read?
Concordia Triglotta (http://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/LCMS/TrigBOC.pdf), bookofconcord.org, Reader's Edition, an English translation from the Greek (http://www.acta-et-scriptura.dk/Engl-transl.htm) of the Augsburg Confession

6. Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?
Not anymore.

7. How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?
Considering the time and circumstances, I can think of no better or more pious book of Theology that could be written by man.

8. Please add personal comments if you want.Nice beard Dan :)

[Protoevangel]

Nice beard Dan :)
Thanks, ...but... :confused: How did you know?


Edit: Duh! lol!!!

That's Father Seraphim Rose.

[RevCowboy]

Interesting history here that I was not aware of concerning the Scandinavian church. It helps explain a lot of things. Thanks for that. :)

No problem! Sometimes it comes in handy to be church history nerd and a quietly proud Norwegian Lutheran.

[usafbrat64]

Hi Mark!
Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once? I haven't read the entire thing. I've read the large and small catechisms, and the Smalcald articles, and the just bits and pieces of the rest.
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession? Sadly, no.
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination? LCMS, currently worshipping with the ELCE (they share full pulpit fellowship).
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
What edition/translation have you read? CPH and online.
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? Yes, I do. I've discovered that the more I learn the less I know.
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? Definitely explanation of Biblical Doctrine.
Please add personal comments if you want. Prior to arriving at our current church, our pastor had done a study of the Augsburg confessions. And those that were here said it was so helpful to go through them with that guidance and with someone who could answer questions and clarify things. I wish more churches would offer studies like that!
Yvonne

[WildStrawberry]

Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once? Most of it. Mainly out of order so, I could have read it all and just don't realize it right now. :D
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession? Yep over and over again. Like it bunches.
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination? LCMS
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation? N/A
What edition/translation have you read? Kolb/Wengert and I'm working on the Reader's Edition. LOVE the Reader's Edition. All Lutherans should have a copy of this!
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference? Pretty much. Mostly while teaching Sunday School.
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise? The former. Most definitely the former.
Please add personal comments if you want.

[MarkRohfrietsch]

:clap:

Thanks for contributing. Everyone here, as I had assumed, is more up on the confessions than the average member of our Parish, and most likely the majority of our parishes.

It is a comfort to know that the Lutheran Pastors who responded have skimmed the BOC at least once:D^_^.

There were even some non Lutherans who have read at least some parts. I'm impressed.

It would be interesting to have a parish as well read as my dear friends here at TC. So many of the problems that my parish has faced over the last 41 years of it's existence could have been avoided. We would still have "problems" but I believe that they would be of a less serious nature.

Thank you again,

Blessings and Peace to all!

Mark

[Protoevangel]

:clap:

Thanks for contributing. Everyone here, as I had assumed, is more up on the confessions than the average member of our Parish, and most likely the majority of our parishes.

It is a comfort to know that the Lutheran Pastors who responded have skimmed the BOC at least once:D^_^.

There were even some non Lutherans who have read at least some parts. I'm impressed.

It would be interesting to have a parish as well read as my dear friends here at TC. So many of the problems that my parish has faced over the last 41 years of it's existence could have been avoided. We would still have "problems" but I believe that they would be of a less serious nature.

Thank you again,

Blessings and Peace to all!

Mark
I'm currently reading a book called "Augsburg and Constantinople (http://www.amazon.com/Augsburg-Constantinople-Correspondence-Theologians-Ecclesiastical/dp/0916586820): The Correspondence between the Tubingen Theologians and Patriarch Jeremiah II of Constantinople on the Augsburg Confession". It's very interesting. It is a great dialog between Martin Crusius, Jakob Andreae (contributor to the Formula of Concord), and other Lutheran Theologians of the University of Tubingen, with Patriarch Jeremiah II. In a few letters sent back and forth, they discuss the articles of the Augsburg Confession. I can't recommend it highly enough.

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Please help me out and answer honestly. This is just for my own interest, so let's keep it friendly. If I get a lot of responses, I may tally up the results and post them. Visitors are most welcome to participate.

Thanks all,

Mark



Have you read the Book of Concord? If so, more than once?
If not the whole BOC, how about the Augsburg Confession?
If you have read the BOC, what is your Synodical affiliation if Lutheran; if not what is your denomination?
If you are Lutheran and have not read the BOC, what is your synod affiliation?
What edition/translation have you read?
Do you use it as a regular or "standard" reference?
How do you view the BOC; as an explanation/exposition of Biblicial doctrine and truth? Or otherwise?
Please add personal comments if you want.



I have read most of the Book of Concord, though never in order, but I have read through the whole of the Augsburg Confession, as well as the Small Catechism. I'm also much more familiar with the Apology, the Large Catechism, and the Formula of Concord than I am will the Smalcald Articles and the Treatise.

I am a member of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.

Personally, I've been using the new Concordia reader's edition, although I intend to pick up the Triglotta for comparison (and use in my Confessions I and II classes) sometime soon- you know, once I learn Latin and German (and, er, Greek and Hebrew...).

I do use it as a standard reference, although I try not to accept each word uncritically and do try to consult other sources and more robust theological works as often as possible. That said, I've found nothing objectionable in the documents with which I am familiar (see above). I just want to reserve judgment until I've exampled the whole of the confessions.

In any case, it is certainly a very fine exposition of biblical truth, and without question the best of all the various confessions (e.g., Thirty-Nine Articles, Westminster Confession, documents of the Roman Catholic church councils) Christendom has produced.

I think we would do well, however, to remember the multiple purposes of the confessions: to convict Christians outside the Lutheran movement, especially Catholics, of the truth of the Gospel, as well as to regulate and govern out congregations. I think one of the great tragedies of the Lutheran movement and the Reformation as a whole is that we have forgotten that Lutheranism is a movement, not a sect or denomination, that rose up to witness to the rest of the church, and the whole of the church, and not to establish a mighty fortress in St. Louis or Minneapolis. To be sure, we cannot reach out without having our house in order (and that's the great mistake of the ELCA), but we must always remember that our church practices and exercises in doctrine do not end with getting them theoretically right, but with proclaiming them to the rest of the church in order to aid in God's work of bringing all Christians together under the gospel.

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I think one of the great tragedies of the Lutheran movement and the Reformation as a whole is that we have forgotten that Lutheranism is a movement, not a sect or denomination, that rose up to witness to the rest of the church, and the whole of the church, and not to establish a mighty fortress in St. Louis or Minneapolis. To be sure, we cannot reach out without having our house in order (and that's the great mistake of the ELCA), but we must always remember that our church practices and exercises in doctrine do not end with getting them theoretically right, but with proclaiming them to the rest of the church in order to aid in God's work of bringing all Christians together under the gospel.

Thanks for the comments!

At the bottom of page 51 of Concordia; "The Augsburg Confession was presented as a statement of Biblical truth and a proposal for true unity in the Christian faith. It has never been withdrawn."

Mark

[IowaLutheran]

I think we would do well, however, to remember the multiple purposes of the confessions: to convict Christians outside the Lutheran movement, especially Catholics, of the truth of the Gospel, as well as to regulate and govern out congregations. I think one of the great tragedies of the Lutheran movement and the Reformation as a whole is that we have forgotten that Lutheranism is a movement, not a sect or denomination, that rose up to witness to the rest of the church, and the whole of the church, and not to establish a mighty fortress in St. Louis or Minneapolis. To be sure, we cannot reach out without having our house in order (and that's the great mistake of the ELCA), but we must always remember that our church practices and exercises in doctrine do not end with getting them theoretically right, but with proclaiming them to the rest of the church in order to aid in God's work of bringing all Christians together under the gospel.

This is most certainly true!

[DaRev]

Personally, I've been using the new Concordia reader's edition, although I intend to pick up the Triglotta for comparison (and use in my Confessions I and II classes) sometime soon- you know, once I learn Latin and German (and, er, Greek and Hebrew...).

You'll also need the Kolb/Wengert for sem classes.

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

This is most certainly true!

Can you tell I've read Gerhard Forde?

You'll also need the Kolb/Wengert for sem classes.


Oh joy, more books! No, seriously! :wave:

[Melethiel]

Oh joy, more books! No, seriously! :wave:
Started a third row on your bookshelf yet? :P

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Started a third row on your bookshelf yet? :P

Fourth. ;)

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Gerhard Forde?



Didn't he used to be your President?..:confused:. Oops, that was Gerry Ford^_^:D.

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Didn't he used to be your President?..:confused:. Oops, that was Gerry Ford^_^:D.

Ah, Ford.. if he accomplished anything, it was giving the country a good, hearty laugh when it really needed one... *trips off Air Force One*

[Tofferer]

Started a third row on your bookshelf yet? :P

Fifteenth

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Fifteenth

Ah, well, if you want to get into how many I have at home.... 31.

[BigNorsk]

Oops meant to start new thread.