Only in Canada Eh?

[MarkRohfrietsch]

July 2, 2008

Lutherans denounce Morgentaler recognition

WINNIPEG - In a strongly worded statement, Rev. Dr. Ralph Mayan, president of Lutheran Church-Canada (LCC) called awarding the country's highest honour, the Order of Canada, to Dr. Henry Morgentaler an "insult to Canada and all who respect the sanctity of life."

He noted that the country presented the same award to Senator Romeo D'Allaire for his efforts to save the lives of thousands in Rwanda amidst a genocide but noted ironically that "the one whose life's work has resulted in deaths of hundreds of thousands of unborn children is given the same recognition."

Revoking an Order of Canada award is not without precedent. Hockey entrepreneur Alan Eagleson's award was revoked and currently there is talk of the same action for Conrad Black. "Dr. Morgentaler has not yet received the award, and so we believe the committee responsible should reconsider its decision," President Mayan added.

The president also noted that the Order of Canada recognizes and celebrates "those whose exemplary efforts reflect the value of life for Canadians and peoples of the world."

Lutheran Church-Canada holds a strong pro-life position based on the teachings of the Bible. In 2002 it encouraged the formation of a Lutheran-based agency to provide information on life issues to LCC congregations. So far, Canada Customs and Revenue Agency has refused to grant the organization non-profit charitable status.

Winnipeg-based Lutheran Church-Canada was established in 1988 and has almost 320 congregations from Nova Scotia to B.C. and more than 75,000 members.

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A statement on awarding the Order of Canada to Dr. Henry Morgentaler from Rev. Dr. Ralph Mayan, president of Lutheran Church-Canada.

"Awarding the Order of Canada to Dr. Henry Morgentaler whose actions in the name of 'health' and 'choice' are responsible for the slaughter of more than 100,000 unborn children each year is an insult to Canada and all who respect the sanctity of life.

"It is a sad irony that the Order of Canada was presented to Senator Romeo D'Allaire for his noble work in preventing the deaths of some 20,000 people in Rwanda amidst a genocide of more than a million, yet the one whose life's work has resulted in deaths of hundreds of thousands of unborn children is given the same recognition.

"We believe all life is a gift from God and as a country our citizens should recognize and celebrate those whose exemplary efforts reflect the value of life for Canadians and peoples of the world."

Further information
Rev. Dr. Ralph Mayan
1-800-588-4226 ex 2212

[LilLamb219]

Henry Morgentaler CM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Canada) (born March 19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_19), 1923 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923), in Łódź (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%81%C3%B3d%C5%BA), Poland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland)) is a controversial Canadian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada) physician (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician) who performs abortions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion) and has been a long time activist who has fought numerous legal battles for the right of women to obtain the procedure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgentaler

I had to look him up as I didn't know who he was. I don't feel he deserves any award either!

[seajoy]

Celebrating the murder of the most helpless of all God's creation....what is happening in our world? Thanks for sharing this, Mark.

We have a friend from Canada, and he tells us that young people there are falling away from Christianity at an alarming rate, and that there are no young people in his church at all (he is Lutheran). Is this really the trend there?

[Mary of Bethany]

Good for the Lutheran Church in Canada for speaking up!


Mary

[RadMan]

Yep and look at all the other advancements they hail in CA like hate crimes, gun control, socailized medicine etc. 'Course we're running a close second in the US. I guess I shouldn't point out socialized medicine. From what I've heard it's a far cry from what they have in the UK. UK's plan is atrocious and I've had experience with it second hand.

[RevCowboy]

July 2, 2008

Lutherans denounce Morgentaler recognition

WINNIPEG - In a strongly worded statement, Rev. Dr. Ralph Mayan, president of Lutheran Church-Canada (LCC) called awarding the country's highest honour, the Order of Canada, to Dr. Henry Morgentaler an "insult to Canada and all who respect the sanctity of life."



I just heard on the new yesterday that this was going to happen, so I applaud President Mayan for responding so quickly! I hope our Bishop Mayan also responds (the Bishop of the Alberta Synod, Bishop Ronald B. Mayan, is President Mayan's cousin).

I am also glad that federal government has also spoken out against the nomination of Dr. Morgentaler. I should read up on who gives out the Order of Canada, I think they had too much Maple Syrup or something, because up until now the Order of Canada has been a distinguished award that recognized deserving citizens.

Lt. Gen. Dallaire was a deserving recipient and if anyone wants to know more about him, there is a great film, and book by the same name, called "Shake hands with the Devil (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472562/)". Giving the Order of Canada to Dr. Mogentaler tarnishes the award and diminshes the recognition that is given to everyone who has ever received it! I hope some previous recipients give theirs back in protest.

Celebrating the murder of the most helpless of all God's creation....what is happening in our world? Thanks for sharing this, Mark.

We have a friend from Canada, and he tells us that young people there are falling away from Christianity at an alarming rate, and that there are no young people in his church at all (he is Lutheran). Is this really the trend there?

It is the trend in some Lutherans churches. One of the problems in Canada is that we too many Lutherans churches. After all the mergers over the years, there are simply too many congregations and many of them are rural. Rural populations are in decline in general, so there are not many young people in small towns, let alone the churches. But it is not the case with all Lutherans churches and especially not with Christianity. Many Lutheran young adults drift over to evangelical churches for the music for a few years and then tend to come back once they are married and/or are starting a family.

Sometimes I wonder if my experience is too farm from the norm though. I grew up in a congregation that had a strong youth group, and then a College and Careers group of about 80 people in a 350 member church (unique in Lutheran churches in Canada). Then I went to seminary with a bunch of friends my age (many from that College and Career group) and now I am doing my internship at a congregation made up primarily of young families. Some of my friends that just graduated seminary are going to congregation where they are the youngest adult though. The good thing is that many they are attracting new young members. One my recently graduated friends started in a congregation of very stodgy Germans, but in a year and half several young families have started attending. I think one of the big problems is that our old pastors in the Lutherans are good at being pastors to folks their age, so hopefully with an injection of youth in the clergy, some young people will be able to identify with church better.

[Edial]

Good for them.

On an unrelated topic, I lately wondered how strategically well Canada is positioned on this globe.

There is no threat from the North except from some curious polar bears. :)
Alaska and the ocean on the left.
Greenland and the ocean on the right.
U.S. below them, and they certainly would not cause a threat to Canada.

It's location is probably an envy of the entire world.

Thanks, :)
Ed

[RevCowboy]

Yep and look at all the other advancements they hail in CA like hate crimes, gun control, socailized medicine etc. 'Course we're running a close second in the US. I guess I shouldn't point out socialized medicine. From what I've heard it's a far cry from what they have in the UK. UK's plan is atrocious and I've had experience with it second hand.


What is this about hate crimes?

While gun control is somewhat of a government initiative, I think read or heard somewhere that Canadians own just as many guns per capita as folks do in the US, we just don't kill each other with them as often. I do think that registering guns in Canada is a good thing, that is probably because when we separated ourselves from the British we simply sent them a letter, instead of a war. So if there was pen and paper control, then I would be worried;).

The reason Canada has a good health care system is largely function of size. With only 30 million people it would be harder for California to run something similar let alone the entire US. I also think that Canada has a larger middle class, which makes the tax hit easier to take. In recent polls health care was one of the top five values of Canadians, and the politician/baptist minister Tommy Douglas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas) who is considered the father of health care was recently voted the greatest Canadian ahead of all our prime ministers and even Wayne Gretzky.



Good for them.

On an unrelated topic, I lately wondered how strategically well Canada is positioned on this globe.

There is no threat from the North except from some curious polar bears. :)
Alaska and the ocean on the left.
Greenland and the ocean on the right.
U.S. below them, and they certainly would not cause a threat to Canada.

It's location is probably an envy of the entire world.

Thanks, :)
Ed

Actually, the real threat from the north is winter. Canada is strategically well placed, but even if someone did invade us, they would probably give up once winter arrived, or would put their guns down when we arrive to fight with Tim Horton's Coffee (http://www.timhortons.com/en/index.html) for all and extra mittens.

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Celebrating the murder of the most helpless of all God's creation....what is happening in our world? Thanks for sharing this, Mark.

We have a friend from Canada, and he tells us that young people there are falling away from Christianity at an alarming rate, and that there are no young people in his church at all (he is Lutheran). Is this really the trend there?

Yes it is.

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Regarding Morgantaler;

Canada has a bill of rights and freedoms. It is a firmly entrenched part of our society.

Problem is... those who have access to these rights and freedoms as those who are most adamant about obtaining them. Those who have no voice do not get heard. Neither do those with no vote. The unborn therefore have no entitlement to receive their rights and freedoms. Those same freedoms that the abortionists, homosexuals, aboriginals and socialists so freely partake of.:sigh::mad:

Canada day was July 1st., 141 years old. I'm ashamed. My ancestors would be ashamed. Our founding fathers would be ashamed.

I'm praying that God deliver us however He sees fit.

Mark, no longer a proud Canadian.

[RadMan]

What is this about hate crimes?

I posted an article on here about a month ago where a minister (Lutheran?) was arrested for hate crimes and fined 7000 dollars for preaching against homosexuality. I'll try and find it if I can.

Edited
Ok this isn't the exact article but it still tells the story. Guess he wasn't Lutheran
http://www.catholicexchange.com/2008/06/04/112780/