infractions

[seajoy]

When I look at my profile now, or hit user CP, I get to see my past infractions (forever), and so do my friends. I'm wondering if they are going to come up with a sin page for our profile so all of that can be kept track of on a permanent basis too. Not just our sins on here, but all of them. It's hard on one's self esteem around here....guess I had better behave better.

[seajoy]

Question - is it now ok to talk about specifics on our infractions, right here on the board, since they are hanging there for everyone to look at anyway? :confused:

[Melethiel]

Other people can see your infractions? I don't think that's correct...infractions were ALWAYS listed on your profile, but only you and the mods can see them. Infractions also expire after a year. Yes, it's so people can be kept track of...like those troublemakers in GT...

[filosofer]

When I look at my profile now, or hit user CP, I get to see my past infractions (forever), and so do my friends. I'm wondering if they are going to come up with a sin page for our profile so all of that can be kept track of on a permanent basis too. Not just our sins on here, but all of them. It's hard on one's self esteem around here....guess I had better behave better.


Wow! I better never post again! I wonder how they found out about ALL my sins? And is that Christian? :P

[porterross]

Wow! I better never post again! I wonder how they found out about ALL my sins? And is that Christian? :P





Being a smart aleck makes you fair game, Doc. :cool:

[Melethiel]

Hey porterross...long time no see :wave:

[porterross]

Hidey ho there. We iz back from the land of roundabouts.

[filosofer]

Being a smart aleck makes you fair game, Doc. :cool:


Is that PR in (virtual) person?????


:wave::clap::clap:



Boy, are you a sight for sore, ah,... fingers?:D

[RadMan]

Hidey ho there. We iz back from the land of roundabouts...........and greens.

[porterross]

Is that PR in (virtual) person?????


:wave::clap::clap:



Boy, are you a sight for sore, ah,... fingers?:D





Couldn't find anyone else to pick on in my absence, huh? :P

[filosofer]

Oh, I was accused of being "difficult"... Can you imagine? :P


Actually I have been traveling so much that I have spent little time here since the end of March. I have been home a total of 17 days, and I leave again a week from this Friday for 11 days.

[seajoy]

Other people can see your infractions? I don't think that's correct...infractions were ALWAYS listed on your profile, but only you and the mods can see them. Infractions also expire after a year. Yes, it's so people can be kept track of...like those troublemakers in GT...
Well, if you say no one can see it, I believe you. I saw this tab in my profile and thought everyone could click on it. I guess my mouth/fingers overfloweth sometimes. :sorry: Please forgive me yet another infraction. :)

Consider this the welcome back Porter thread. :wave:

[porterross]

Oh, I was accused of being "difficult"... Can you imagine? :P

Uh, huh. The fact that you're really a pushover is safe with me. ;)


Actually I have been traveling so much that I have spent little time here since the end of March. I have been home a total of 17 days, and I leave again a week from this Friday for 11 days.


Look at the bright side. It saves on the grocery bill.


Well, if you say no one can see it, I believe you. I saw this tab in my profile and thought everyone could click on it. I guess my mouth/fingers overfloweth sometimes. :sorry: Please forgive me yet another infraction. :)

Consider this the welcome back Porter thread. :wave:

Thanks! The only reason I haven't been in trouble here is because I've been gone. :D

[Edial]

When I look at my profile now, or hit user CP, I get to see my past infractions (forever), and so do my friends. I'm wondering if they are going to come up with a sin page for our profile so all of that can be kept track of on a permanent basis too. Not just our sins on here, but all of them. It's hard on one's self esteem around here....guess I had better behave better.
No one except yourself and the mods should see this.

This was one of the major objections that some mods presented with the new system of modding.

Do non-mods see this? Anyone?
Please confirm.

Thanks,
Ed

[Edial]

Hidey ho there. We iz back from the land of roundabouts.
It is really good seeing you again. :)

Ed

[LutheranMafia]

Well now I know that at least one other person here besides me has an infraction!

[Edial]

Oh, I was accused of being "difficult"... Can you imagine? :P


Actually I have been traveling so much that I have spent little time here since the end of March. I have been home a total of 17 days, and I leave again a week from this Friday for 11 days.


I find this to be an unbelievably hard schedule.

In the Gideons organization where I volunteer we have a Trustee for several states who travels 50 out of 52 weekends often sandwiched with Mondays and Fridays.

One of our international level Gideon big boys commented on this schedule.

He said when he looked at this schedule lately he said to himself: "This is impossible!".
Yet when he himself was a Trustee some years back and was given this schedule, he just looked at it and said: "No problem".

He was reflecting on different reactions he had towards a same schedule in different points of his life.
He figured it out this way. When he was a Trustee and was given this schedule, he saw no problem with it, ... because he was called. :):):)

Good for you, filo. :)

Ed

[Edial]

Well now I know that at least one other person here besides me has an infraction!
:D:)

[DaRev]

..........and greens.

...and mushy peas.

:P

[RadMan]

...and mushy peas.

:P
The "greens" I was referring to was what we call a park. Well at least it was when I was there. :)

[DaRev]

The "greens" I was referring to was what we call a park. Well at least it was when I was there. :)

I assumed that. I'm not completely daft as some around here suppose.

[WildStrawberry]

Seajoy,

I thought the same thing but Zec and I tested it out. You can't see them if you're not the person or a mod.

MY infraction/notice/whatever doesn't EVER go away. *pout*

Kae

[seajoy]

Well now I know that at least one other person here besides me has an infraction!
Guess we finally have something in common. :)

[dinkime]

when i went to check it out, seajoy, i could see no infractions on you -- you are sinless to me!! (and Jesus thinks your a swell one as well!)

[Edial]

Seajoy,

I thought the same thing but Zec and I tested it out. You can't see them if you're not the person or a mod.

MY infraction/notice/whatever doesn't EVER go away. *pout*

Kae
:preach: ... :liturgy: ... :priest: ... :groupray:

REV 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Since your name is found in the Book of Life, my guess would be the CF "notices" that might be found in these other books would be just ... history. :)

Thanks, :)
Ed

[dinkime]

kae, now you're making me wonder about your true behaviors, lol

[QuiltAngel]

At the risk of having something thrown at me, I am going to ask anyway, where do you see the infractions in the profile?

[Edial]

At the risk of having something thrown at me, I am going to ask anyway, where do you see the infractions in the profile?
Under Staff Contacts, oh ye the sinless one.

[QuiltAngel]

I am sure that is not true at all. I know I have ticked many people off on this site.

[Nadiine]

Seajoy,

I thought the same thing but Zec and I tested it out. You can't see them if you're not the person or a mod.

MY infraction/notice/whatever doesn't EVER go away. *pout*

Kae
I'm sure glad God wipes the slate clean at some point!

Infractions aren't even a point against you, why they're permanent is beyond me, I don't think that's right at all.

(and zecky got an infraction?? how can that be? perish the thought!)
:holy:

[Nadiine]

when i went to check it out, seajoy, i could see no infractions on you -- you are sinless to me!! (and Jesus thinks your a swell one as well!)
^_^:P

[LilLamb219]

Infractions/notices shouldn't be seen by anyone other than staff...but you know, glitches happen. Especially on this board ;)

Notices are NOT punishments, guys. They are just notes for staff to know that a rule violation has occurred and THAT IS IT.

I was just informed recently by a friend, that notices were coming under the section called Infraction, so no wonder people were freaking out about them. Apparently complaining works because they should be changing the infraction word under that section to staff contact or something like that. Try to think of the notices as a formal PM.

We all make mistakes here on the boards. I know I've made my share of them...and I'd be embarrassed for everyone to see them! Yikes.

[Zecryphon]

kae, now you're making me wonder about your true behaviors, lol

So my true behaviors are such an established fact no one has to wonder about them? Ah, my work here is done. ^_^

[Zecryphon]

I'm sure glad God wipes the slate clean at some point!

Infractions aren't even a point against you, why they're permanent is beyond me, I don't think that's right at all.

(and zecky got an infraction?? how can that be? perish the thought!)
:holy:

An infraction? Try like 3 infractions and 2 notices. LOL You do remember the real reason I left ND right? And one of those things carries a one point penalty.

[RadMan]

An infraction? Try like 3 infractions and 2 notices. LOL You do remember the real reason I left ND right? And one of those things carries a one point penalty.I managed to get permanently banned from Wittenburg Trail in only 2 months. :P

[Nadiine]

An infraction? Try like 3 infractions and 2 notices. LOL You do remember the real reason I left ND right? And one of those things carries a one point penalty.
oh dear.....
I remember alot of things I wish I didn't. lol
Not much of anything has changed there except fewer make posts.

It's just that in this forum you guys are alot more open to ad hom than other forums are =)~

To Lamb - ya, mine was notice but it reads as an infraction and I was furious about that at first. I'm ok now tho (and it's ok too, becuz it was worth it).

[Zecryphon]

I managed to get permanently banned from Wittenburg Trail in only 2 months. :P

How? Are you secretly masquerading as a Godless heretic? ;)

[Zecryphon]

oh dear.....
I remember alot of things I wish I didn't. lol
Not much of anything has changed there except fewer make posts.

It's just that in this forum you guys are alot more open to ad hom than other forums are =)~

To Lamb - ya, mine was notice but it reads as an infraction and I was furious about that at first. I'm ok now tho (and it's ok too, becuz it was worth it).

In retrospect, I really should have fought the first infraction I received. All I did was state the truth about a certain professor from Ohio who posts predominately in CP&E Debates on Homosexuality and denies the central tenets of the Christian faith. Never state a conclusion about a person who does that. You'll get in trouble every time. :sigh: The amount of ad hom I see in this forum pales in comparison to what I've seen in other forums. CP&E Debates on Homosexuality is nothing but ad hom. Take that away and that forum would see a lot less activity, because no one would be able to "express" themselves.

[Nadiine]

In retrospect, I really should have fought the first infraction I received. All I did was state the truth about a certain professor from Ohio who posts predominately in CP&E Debates on Homosexuality and denies the central tenets of the Christian faith. Never state a conclusion about a person who does that. You'll get in trouble every time. :sigh: The amount of ad hom I see in this forum pales in comparison to what I've seen in other forums. CP&E Debates on Homosexuality is nothing but ad hom. Take that away and that forum would see a lot less activity, because no one would be able to "express" themselves.
I don't see any point in even discussing homosexuality on this site - and I mean any thread with a specifical aspect about it - every single one of them heads right to the source of "it's sin/it's not sin"... comes to an impass...... implodes...... move to next thread & start all over again.

Why bother making any topic names - just say "this is another gay thread to fight about it being right or wrong" & get it over with already lol
:doh: :swoon:

Gosh I'm sick of those topics. I just left the only 2 I had posted in from another area. The human brain can only take so much.

[LilLamb219]

As fun as it might be to discuss our sinful infractions, we don't want to stray into the rule violation of Issues with staff decisions should be taken to the staff member, then the reconciliation team, period. Don't post them, don't PM them to others, don't take them to Lee. . So, how about we not go there?

[RadMan]

How? Are you secretly masquerading as a Godless heretic? ;)
Nope--it just doesn't take much to get banned from there. I disagreed with some of their icons and they took offense to it.

[seajoy]

At the risk of having something thrown at me, I am going to ask anyway, where do you see the infractions in the profile?It's one of the tabs. Also, mine is listed as an infraction, but it really was a notice. Guess they are one in the same now.

[seajoy]

Hmmm, it's been changed to "staff contacts" instead of infractions. I wonder if this "mistake" is listed somewhere permanently. ^_^

[RadMan]

This is only a forum. The police won't come to your door and arrest you. :P

[Nadiine]

As fun as it might be to discuss our sinful infractions, we don't want to stray into the rule violation of . So, how about we not go there?
Ya we don't need to know everybody's stank laundry lists and extensive rap sheets. LOL
*cough*



zec


*cough*

^_^

[Zecryphon]

As fun as it might be to discuss our sinful infractions, we don't want to stray into the rule violation of . So, how about we not go there?

I think it's possible to discuss our past sinful infractions with each other without judging whether or not the mod's actions were right or wrong in giving us that infraction. That's the rule violation right? Debating whether or not a mod's actions were correct? People second guessing your actions is what you guys hate right? And for the record, telling people not to discuss what happens to them in PM with other members, I think is overstepping the boundaries of your job.

[Nadiine]

I think it's possible to discuss our past sinful infractions with each other without judging whether or not the mod's actions were right or wrong in giving us that infraction. That's the rule violation right? Debating whether or not a mod's actions were correct? People second guessing your actions is what you guys hate right? And for the record, telling people not to discuss what happens to them in PM with other members, I think is overstepping the boundaries of your job.
You can't pm it either???

See that's like secret service stuff... that means there's no checks & balances or power to the members in their own affairs. It's their account - they should be able to tell anyone they want.

This is especially bad with perma bans - they're silenced immediately & their pm's shut off. kinda creepy. "the man". LOL

ok, done ranting. time to put groceries away

[Zecryphon]

You can't pm it either???

See that's like secret service stuff... that means there's no checks & balances or power to the members in their own affairs. It's their account - they should be able to tell anyone they want.

This is especially bad with perma bans - they're silenced immediately & their pm's shut off. kinda creepy. "the man". LOL

ok, done ranting. time to put groceries away

According to the rule you can't PM it to other members. That's what the rule says. However, the reality is that people do PM each other about infractions. I've done it, never been caught. Because in order to be caught a mod would have to be policing the PMs. Since they don't police the threads, I'm certain they're not policing the PMs either. They can only act after a report has been filed. If someone reports a PM you've sent them, then there's a chance you might get into trouble.

[LutheranMafia]

This is only a forum. The police won't come to your door and arrest you. :PJust wait till the CF police show up at your door too!

Ya we don't need to know everybody's stank laundry lists and extensive rap sheets. LOL
*cough*



zec


*cough*

^_^Especially if we’ve broken out of CF prison and are actually living on the lamb…! (*ssshhhh* don't tell anyone! It was one of those Lutheran mafia things ya know, felony tickle torture…)

[LilLamb219]

Living on the "lamb"? What a very Christian thing to say.

Edited to say...Lamb...Christ...get it?

[LilLamb219]

Zec, I'm not sure why this was directed toward me: And for the record, telling people not to discuss what happens to them in PM with other members, I think is overstepping the boundaries of your job.

[Nadiine]

Just wait till the CF police show up at your door too!

Especially if we’ve broken out of CF prison and are actually living on the lamb…! (*ssshhhh* don't tell anyone! It was one of those Lutheran mafia things ya know, felony tickle torture…)
^_^:P

[Nadiine]

Living on the "lamb"? What a very Christian thing to say.

Edited to say...Lamb...Christ...get it?
^_^:P

[LutheranMafia]

Living on the "lamb"? What a very Christian thing to say.

Edited to say...Lamb...Christ...get it?Like a Thief in the Night. :preach:

^_^

[Zecryphon]

Zec, I'm not sure why this was directed toward me:

It's not directed towards you, it's directed towards that part of the rules that you cited. Since you cited the rules in your post that say we can not discuss mod actions in our private messages, I just wanted people to know that I think such a rule goes too far.

[seajoy]

May I ask a mod to please close this thread? I wasn't in such a good mood yesterday when I started it, and it got a bit out of hand. Thanks :sorry:

[RadMan]

It's not directed towards you, it's directed towards that part of the rules that you cited. Since you cited the rules in your post that say we can not discuss mod actions in our private messages, I just wanted people to know that I think such a rule goes too far. If you have any complaints then you have to post them in the appropriate forums. It's a way of controlling what is being said and discussed. They can segregate you away from others and control the discussion to their ends. It's called "divide and conquer"

[LilLamb219]

Closing Thread at OP's request...thank you, Seajoy :)