Oprah corrupting Christianity?

[cool29801]

As some of you may know, Oprah Winfrey is one of the most famous people in the world. The problem that I see with her, is that she believes thats she is way more than she is, and she won't stop doing what she can to get a crowd and cash.

She claims to be christian, but she is WAY wrong in the videos i've seen.

youtube .com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA

Once agian, remove the space between the e and .com to watch, copy and paste it in your URL.

I think its horrible, and worstly that the people who follow this show and have little knowledge on christianity are following what she's saying!

Opinions everyone..?

[dead2self]

I feel confident in emphatically stating she is not a Christian, at least as of the clips of her show I saw. Her ideas on God and Christ are abhorrent.

[Epiphoskei]

I saw a youtube of her denying the necessity of faith in Christ to be saved. She is not a christian.

Is she corrupting christianity? Well, where I come from, christians have been taught better and aren't going to listen to some celebrity teach false doctrine. But in the churches who do not strengthen their members in the truth, any other gospel is dangerously seductive.

[cool29801]

I've seen the video where she denied christ, then another where she called herself a christian, and she supposably has her own religious radio station, but its the things like that that happen to bring the weak believers. Heres a good example.

My mom watches the oprah show every chance she gets, and she never knew much about christianity though she said she was a christian. She told me she was becoming a better christian through what oprah said and I had to talk to her for like an hour and show her parts of the bible to prove where oprah was going wrong. (but I was able to, and now theres one less oprah viewer)

My point is even if oprah obviously isnt christian, shes one of the many out corrupting it.

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[HappyChicken]

What Oprah is doing is very very scary. She has her own brand of religion...she supports something called "The New Earth." I don't know a whole lot about it, but it's becoming very popular. Many souls are going to perish because of what this woman is presenting them...because she has such a strong influence on many, many people. The fame she has today is because people have given it to her. It's really sad. My mom loves her. My mom listens to whatever Dr. Oz (a medical doctor who is regularly on her show) has to say and really buys into it. This week Oprah had a show were they explained how knowing your "past lives" can benefit your current life....now I don't see how she can even claim to be Christian after doing a show like that.

There are not many paths to God. People need to quit turning to popular celebs to gain spiritual wisdom. All people have to do is open their Bibles. I'm sorry that I'm kinda ranting here, but I'm really upset over all of this.

[WarEagle]

As some of you may know, Oprah Winfrey is one of the most famous people in the world. The problem that I see with her, is that she believes thats she is way more than she is, and she won't stop doing what she can to get a crowd and cash.

She claims to be christian, but she is WAY wrong in the videos i've seen.

youtube .com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA

Once agian, remove the space between the e and .com to watch, copy and paste it in your URL.

I think its horrible, and worstly that the people who follow this show and have little knowledge on christianity are following what she's saying!

Opinions everyone..?

No, she's not corrupting Christianity. If the gates of Hell won't prevail, then I find it hard to believe that some obnoxious loudmouth like Oprah Winfrey will.

She may be further corrupting individuals, but the Holy Spirit is going to see that the true Gospel still gets to those who need it.

God just laughs at people like Oprah.

[WarEagle]

There are not many paths to God.

Of course there are many paths to God!

Let's see...

There's Jesus
There's calling out to Jesus
There's putting your faith in Jesus and His atonement on your behalf
There's being crucified with Jesus and raised again with Jesus
There's believing in your heart and confessing with your mouth that Jesus is Lord

That's five paths right there.

[HappyChicken]

Of course there are many paths to God!

Let's see...

There's Jesus
There's calling out to Jesus
There's putting your faith in Jesus and His atonement on your behalf
There's being crucified with Jesus and raised again with Jesus
There's believing in your heart and confessing with your mouth that Jesus is Lord

That's five paths right there.


:thumbsup: Got ya. But you know what I meant. I meant that Jesus is the only path to God.....not Buddah, not Hindu, not Oprah!

[eldermike]

2 Timothy: 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.

Paul could not imagine the TV but he wrote about it.

[brinny]

As some of you may know, Oprah Winfrey is one of the most famous people in the world. The problem that I see with her, is that she believes thats she is way more than she is, and she won't stop doing what she can to get a crowd and cash.

She claims to be christian, but she is WAY wrong in the videos i've seen.

youtube .com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA

Once agian, remove the space between the e and .com to watch, copy and paste it in your URL.

I think its horrible, and worstly that the people who follow this show and have little knowledge on christianity are following what she's saying!

Opinions everyone..?

I'm not sure who scare me more, Oprah or her 'fans'..it reminds me of a 'liitle girls club' when she walks out on stage and they squeal and scream.

Oprah needs a life, a wake up call. She's bored to death and thus her 'seeking' the truth ongoingly in all the wrong places. Her ego is insurmountably humongous and she surrounds herself with 'yes' people. She does not have to think outside the box if she don't wanna. And believing in the One true, living God....well there's just not enough room on the throne, and Oprah gonna sit on the throne. She ain't about to get off fer nobody. She don't share the stage with nobody. Who does God think He is? Don't he know who she is? She's Oprah. And as far as Oprah is concerned, she's already ascended to the highest plane. And it is He Who needs to bow down and worship, just like ev'rybody else (at least in her mind)

Did you see the episode where she 'crashed' weddings of people she didn't even know, as she crossed the country with Gail, to 'surprise' them?

She scares me :eek:

[HappyChicken]

I just wish that there was something we could do about it. It really upsets me that people are being brainwashed.

[brinny]

I just wish that there was something we could do about it. It really upsets me that people are being brainwashed.

So do I. That's one of the reasons I wrestle with God. Well one of the reasons I love my Abba is because He lets me. He knows that injustice, unrighteousness, and oppression sear my soul. I turn to Him more now than i ever have. I gotta. This battle is bigger than me.

[HappyChicken]

Did you see the episode where she 'crashed' weddings of people she didn't even know, as she crossed the country with Gail, to 'surprise' them?

She scares me :eek:


Are you serious?? She actually showed up UNINVITED to peoples weddings to "grace them with her presence?" Thats ate up! If she showed up at my wedding, she would not have been allowed in. Wouldn't that just burst her bubble??

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
Did you see the episode where she 'crashed' weddings of people she didn't even know, as she crossed the country with Gail, to 'surprise' them?

She scares me

Are you serious?? She actually showed up UNINVITED to peoples weddings to "grace them with her presence?" Thats ate up! If she showed up at my wedding, she would not have been allowed in. Wouldn't that just burst her bubble??

She did. And one of the couples had no clue who she was. They just looked at her like she was a crazy person. She's lucky they didn't call the police.

[mlqurgw]

I just wish that there was something we could do about it. It really upsets me that people are being brainwashed.
There is. We can give of ourselves and what we have to see that the Gospel of the Free and Sovereign Grace of God in Christ is preached to as many as the Lord will give opportunity.

[-~Truth_N_Trust~-]

*puts hand up and shakes head* count me in as another truly shocked (though I suppose I shouldn't be) at the rubbish that hungry people will swallow...

This 'A New Earth' mystic religion is based on a book by Eckhart tolle - it's nothing new, just repackaged with a new famous spokesperson...

[HappyChicken]

There is. We can give of ourselves and what we have to see that the Gospel of the Free and Sovereign Grace of God in Christ is preached to as many as the Lord will give opportunity.


Amen!

[ImmersionX]

No, she's not corrupting Christianity. If the gates of Hell won't prevail, then I find it hard to believe that some obnoxious loudmouth like Oprah Winfrey will.

She may be further corrupting individuals, but the Holy Spirit is going to see that the true Gospel still gets to those who need it.

God just laughs at people like Oprah.

She's not corrupting Christianity....she's just misleading gullible bored housewives.
Also, God doesn't laugh at people...sorry that's not what I'm taught.
He grieves or gets very angry with people such as Oprah.

Peace and God Bless.

[HappyChicken]

She's not corrupting Christianity....she's just misleading gullible bored housewives.

Also, God doesn't laugh at people...sorry that's not what I'm taught.
He grieves or gets very angry with people such as Oprah.

Peace and God Bless.


I think she is misleading more than just gullible bored housewives, because she has her own radio station now too.

And I agree, God does not laugh at these matters.

[ImmersionX]

I think she is misleading more than just gullible bored housewives, because she has her own radio station now too.

And I agree, God does not laugh at these matters.

I will concede on that point...there are many more people who take her voice to heart...misleading a LOT more people than "bored housewives".

Peace and God Bless.

[cool29801]

Yeah, I sure wish there was a effective way to get a good message out there. TV is one of the strongest thing we could use, and Oprah has that and more. We should think of a good way to get the message out.

[brinny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NizojZIX7Aw&feature=related

[WarEagle]

Also, God doesn't laugh at people...sorry that's not what I'm taught.

Oh, OK. I guess Psalm 37:13 is wrong then.

[arunma]

I think we can all agree that the doctrines Oprah preaches are false, abhorrent, contrary to the very spirit of the Bible, and sure roads to condemnation for anyone who chooses to believe them. But is she corrupting Christianity? First I think we need to ask what people mean when they say "Christianity."

Most people on this forum love God's word and are dedicated to understanding its truths and applying them to our lives. To us Christianity does not consist of outward religious rituals, but in an active relationship with the living God through faith in his Son Jesus Christ. This is not what American culture means when they are talking about Christianity. If you ask the average American what Christianity is, they'll probably suggests that Christianity consists of going to church, participating in various Christian programs, and otherwise doing things. Most Americans (75-80% last time I checked) are "Christians" by this definition, though you'd never know it by interacting with our culture. As Tim Keller of Redeemer Presbyterian Church (New York City) puts it, most Americans are inoculated against Christianity. Just as one gains immunity to a disease by limited exposure to it, Americans have a sort of cultural memory of Christianity due to the potent influence it had on earlier European and American civilization. Not to compare the Gospel of our Lord to a disease, but this cultural memory does serve as a sort of vaccine against the Gospel. Our culture has been greatly affected by Christianity, but is not Christian. In France nearly every street is named after a Saint, yet most French people are atheists. Likewise, most Americans have some history of going to church as children and hearing the Gospel preached (in some form or another), but they reject Christianity. Yet unlike the French, Americans tend to embrace some form of spirituality. And this spirituality is permeated with pseudo-Christian imagery.

This seems to be precisely the playing field in which Oprah is operating. She talks about how you can tap spiritual powers outside of God, but refers to this as communication with angels. She believes in a spiritual realm, and even calls it God. But it doesn't resemble the God of Israel. In other words she uses Christian language, but her beliefs can hardly be called Christian. It seems to me that Oprah should be regarded as like all the other false religions out there. She's leading people into hell, but she's not a Christian heretic. Heretics can be corrected with sound Biblical preaching, people of other religions are a bit harder to deal with.

[mlqurgw]

I think we can all agree that the doctrines Oprah preaches are false, abhorrent, contrary to the very spirit of the Bible, and sure roads to condemnation for anyone who chooses to believe them. But is she corrupting Christianity? First I think we need to ask what people mean when they say "Christianity."

Most people on this forum love God's word and are dedicated to understanding its truths and applying them to our lives. To us Christianity does not consist of outward religious rituals, but in an active relationship with the living God through faith in his Son Jesus Christ. This is not what American culture means when they are talking about Christianity. If you ask the average American what Christianity is, they'll probably suggests that Christianity consists of going to church, participating in various Christian programs, and otherwise doing things. Most Americans (75-80% last time I checked) are "Christians" by this definition, though you'd never know it by interacting with our culture. As Tim Keller of Redeemer Presbyterian Church (New York City) puts it, most Americans are inoculated against Christianity. Just as one gains immunity to a disease by limited exposure to it, Americans have a sort of cultural memory of Christianity due to the potent influence it had on earlier European and American civilization. Not to compare the Gospel of our Lord to a disease, but this cultural memory does serve as a sort of vaccine against the Gospel. Our culture has been greatly affected by Christianity, but is not Christian. In France nearly every street is named after a Saint, yet most French people are atheists. Likewise, most Americans have some history of going to church as children and hearing the Gospel preached (in some form or another), but they reject Christianity. Yet unlike the French, Americans tend to embrace some form of spirituality. And this spirituality is permeated with pseudo-Christian imagery.

This seems to be precisely the playing field in which Oprah is operating. She talks about how you can tap spiritual powers outside of God, but refers to this as communication with angels. She believes in a spiritual realm, and even calls it God. But it doesn't resemble the God of Israel. In other words she uses Christian language, but her beliefs can hardly be called Christian. It seems to me that Oprah should be regarded as like all the other false religions out there. She's leading people into hell, but she's not a Christian heretic. Heretics can be corrected with sound Biblical preaching, people of other religions are a bit harder to deal with.That is precisely the reason my burden isn't so much for a lost world as much as it is for those in my generation among whom I may have influence. Far too many in this country, the U.S., among whom I deal with consider themselves "Christian" who are deceived and it breaks my heart. You may go in any direction from my home, and even across the street from my own church, and find competing churches that are seeking members. It is a phenomenon that is unusual in the world but common in the U.S. It reminds me of Israel and their bent toward taking any and all god's when the Lord prospered them. Oprah is only a symptom, she is not the disease.

[cool29801]

Odd story last night, I was at my friends house, stayed over and when I walked through the living room with him, his mom was on the couch watching TV. (Shes a jesus freak just like us) And as I passed by, i asked, "Whatcha watching?" She said "Oprah" then just my quick reply "Ahh i hate oprah!" this is what disapointed me.. "Why? Shes a good christian woman!"

That set me off in my mind, but i emailed her a link to the video and she said she's never felt the same about Oprah. I hear that more people are starting to not like her, and its not that I actually hate Oprah, I hate the idea in her mind and what she's trying to push for.

[chi_cchick]

I used to have alot of respect for Oprah, but I agree what she is doing is scary and brainwashing. I think she has done alot of good in the world, but of she's preaching against God and saying there are more than one ways to get to heaven she's doing a million times more damage than good. I hope someone points her in the right direction so that she sees God is the way, the truth and the life and the only permanent way to happiness, although Christians are called to suffer too, until we are in heaven with our father.

[ladyt28]

I have no faith in her turning herself back to God as it isn't as profitable as the way she does things now. And I am certain she 'justifies' herself and what she preaches on her charity efforts.

I think more and more of us can share things like that video with others to help point out her true self. I wish the AFA would target efforts like Oprah more than try to ban McDonalds. We need to tell people WHY we don't watch her show/buy her mag/listen to her radio station. We need to let people know exactly HOW she acts against the word of God.

I am SO GLAD someone else brought this up - O has been bothering me for awhile now and she is so popular that I felt like the only leaf floating in the river!

[cool29801]

This put a smile on my face. I sure wish Oprah watches this.

youtube.c om/watch?v=NMy7fPRoTAI

This preacher made tons of great points, its definantly worth watching.

[NavyChristian]

I can't believe what I heard in that video. She is completely and totally blasphemous towards God by claiming He doesn't even exist as a being but as a figment of our sub-conscience. I can't believe she believes such nonsense that has no biblical evidence to support it.

It was funny seeing her owned by the Christian in the audience in the first clip, though. :D

[HappyChicken]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, i have dial up and i cant get any of these clips to download in a timely fashion.

[NavyChristian]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, i have dial up and i cant get any of these clips to download in a timely fashion.

There's not much to see in the clip, just Oprah getting owned by a Christian in the audience and Oprah spouting off all these obscenities about the bible and God. She sees an author of a book getting attention and she suddenly believes what he believes to get higher ratings. On the day of judgement she is going to be so upset to find she was wrong and has to spend an eternity in a place of torment and pain.

[Sheeple]

As some of you may know, Oprah Winfrey is one of the most famous people in the world. The problem that I see with her, is that she believes thats she is way more than she is, and she won't stop doing what she can to get a crowd and cash.

She claims to be christian, but she is WAY wrong in the videos i've seen.

youtube .com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA

Once agian, remove the space between the e and .com to watch, copy and paste it in your URL.

I think its horrible, and worstly that the people who follow this show and have little knowledge on christianity are following what she's saying!

Opinions everyone..?

She probably is having an impact among those in churchianity, however those of the true Ecclesia Jesus is building will know her fruits. In other words when Jesus made the comment "My sheep know my voice." real disciples have the spirit of God helping them to discern what is true and false.

I definitely think it is worth our while to examine her doctrine and refute it, but in the spiritual arena, she is just one of a long line of "false prophets" spreading her new age nonsense. I look at it this way, when Oprahism comes up in conversation, it's a great opportunity to share the true gospel.

[SWigton87]

The way I see it: All roads lead to one place - Judgement.

I'm on Jesus' side, and I know there's only one other. I'll boldly approach that throne, what will Oprah Winfrey do?

[JCFantasy23]

From the video I'm gathering she's reducing God to being no longer the God any of us know and love. I couldn't help but be amazed and laugh when she took her the sermon "I am a Jealous God" and then said to herself, God is jealous of me? http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/hahaha-024.gif I don't know about anyone else, but I NEVER took that to be what God meant in the bible. It's just a shame, and people are right on her having immense power over the masses (sigh) I always thought some of her stuff before with Dr Phil was a bit scary. The man has cool qualities, but speaking from experience of seeing those I've loved and mental illness, some of his suggestions on his show seemed downright dangerous.

[Natural1]

Only people buying this are also the types to buy into Scientology and the like. A shame people who are spiritually lost would buy into it, but it's a sign of the times and we're in a culture which worships celebrity.