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LutheranMafia
25th June 2008, 05:55 PM
I finally had some time this weekend to think without interruptions and the analogy started to dawn on me, given a few tweaks. I’m very cynical of dentists after my 6 years of intense illness (an enormous flare-up of fibromyalgia) as a result of bad dental work that eventually infected my whole jaw. Up until recently they’d been killing people with mercury amalgams for over a century. Also, teeth cleanings use to scrape off almost as much enamels as the plaque would eat, until they invented the sonic plaque removers. So my view of dentistry is by and large rather helpless, you can’t do very much to improve your dental health, but you can destroy it in short order.
I don’t know if that really gets at the heart of the matter, but it did strikes me as a consistent analogy. How good is this at capturing Luther’s meaning about the limitations on free will?
Edial
25th June 2008, 08:53 PM
I do not really get the question, but based on the title alone I would say that people with good teeth are sinless.
One cavity - one becomes predisposed to sin, like Adam and Eve were prior to sinning.
Two cavities - sinner.
Three cavities - dirty rotten sinner.
Root canal - a private talk in Pastor's office.
Extraction - top of the agenda at the Church Council meeting.
Yet on a good note, false dentures - (bodily) resurrection. :)
Ed :)
WildStrawberry
25th June 2008, 09:15 PM
I finally had some time this weekend to think without interruptions and the analogy started to dawn on me, given a few tweaks. I’m very cynical of dentists after my 6 years of intense illness (an enormous flare-up of fibromyalgia) as a result of bad dental work that eventually infected my whole jaw. Up until recently they’d been killing people with mercury amalgams for over a century. Also, teeth cleanings use to scrape off almost as much enamels as the plaque would eat, until they invented the sonic plaque removers. So my view of dentistry is by and large rather helpless, you can’t do very much to improve your dental health, but you can destroy it in short order.
I don’t know if that really gets at the heart of the matter, but it did strikes me as a consistent analogy. How good is this at capturing Luther’s meaning about the limitations on free will?
I think that you're getting pretty close to what I was saying. Especially about the "can't do much to improve <snip> but you can destroy it in short order." That's pretty much on the money with the word changes of "can't do MUCH" to "can't do ANYTHING".
:D
Kae
yeshuaslavejeff
28th June 2008, 03:07 PM
I finally had some time this weekend to think without interruptions and the analogy started to dawn on me, given a few tweaks. I’m very cynical of dentists after my 6 years of intense illness (an enormous flare-up of fibromyalgia) as a result of bad dental work that eventually infected my whole jaw. Up until recently they’d been killing people with mercury amalgams for over a century. Also, teeth cleanings use to scrape off almost as much enamels as the plaque would eat, until they invented the sonic plaque removers. So my view of dentistry is by and large rather helpless, you can’t do very much to improve your dental health, but you can destroy it in short order.
I don’t know if that really gets at the heart of the matter, but it did strikes me as a consistent analogy. How good is this at capturing Luther’s meaning about the limitations on free will?
true, partly, in that mis-information is widespread and used by ALL of the health professions and almost ALL dntsts and dctrs....
however,
at least one honest "pillar of tooth" :) (truth, get it?)
had a web page
last year that described in simple detail how to not have any cavities or oral health troubles... I'll find it if I can, but it might take a while(99 out of 100 websites are lies, and part of the rest are too)....
in short though, if you don't want cavities for you or your family,
get rrid of all fluoride in your house ! (nafl, cafl is okay but who has it?)..
if you knew that already, there's some hope :)
(most people have been duped into thinking toxic nafl in their mouth is not just okay but helps... if you used to think so, go look it up and see the history of fluoride in this country.... it is horrendous what man does for $$)
send me a reminder email at dxuxlxoxs77 (take out the x's) at the
Yahoo! if you want the URL of the webpage for healthy teeth (and bones)
Shalom to all (the few) who love Truth !
yeshuaslavejeff
28th June 2008, 03:47 PM
http://www.ghchealth.com/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all.html
this isn't the one , but it's a start...
Radiata
29th June 2008, 04:28 PM
I do not really get the question, but based on the title alone I would say that people with good teeth are sinless.
One cavity - one becomes predisposed to sin, like Adam and Eve were prior to sinning.
Two cavities - sinner.
Three cavities - dirty rotten sinner.
Root canal - a private talk in Pastor's office.
Extraction - top of the agenda at the Church Council meeting.
Yet on a good note, false dentures - (bodily) resurrection. :)
Ed :)
I've never had a cavity in my life. I'm sinless!!:)
Melethiel
29th June 2008, 05:41 PM
I had a dentist appointment last week, and they found a (small!) cavity. My first ever filling. :(
DaRev
29th June 2008, 06:03 PM
I had a dentist appointment last week, and they found a (small!) cavity. My first ever filling. :(
You heathen!
;) :D
RadMan
29th June 2008, 10:24 PM
I think my sins far exceed my cavities. According to this OP I should be getting 10 or 20 cavities a day.
RadMan
29th June 2008, 10:25 PM
I think my sins far exceed my cavities. According to this OP I should be getting 10 or 20 cavities a day.
yeshuaslavejeff
1st July 2008, 10:36 AM
Ditto....
That's why the Scripture about how often to forgive is so important.
I sin so often, usually unwittingly or unwillingly, that repentance is an ongoing and constant reality - with praying without ceasing with thanksgiving , not just praying 1 or 2 or 7 times a day, but my life becoming a prayer; an abiding and being conscience of Yahweh's presence every moment, He being the author and director of my faith and words and the steps I take.
..
It was heartbreaking to see a P A S T O R say he had no idea why that Scripture was; He was under the FALSE impression that he himself only sinned once or twice a day if that often !!! - NO IDEA of the reality of how wretched he (man) really is. Coinciding with that lack of conviction of his own sin, he had no power to overcome the works of haSatan nor to set anyone else free from the power of sin.
..
So it's refreshing to meet/ see others who realize not just we sin so often, but our freedom in Yahshua the Messiah from the power of sin, a daily strugggle!
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