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th1bill
5th June 2008, 05:29 PM
In chapter six, Jesus has just finished teaching us how to pray and that we must learn to rely upon God for our every need. Now the LORD, our God, is about to instruct us in the use of the wisdom God has imparted to us.


Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me cast out the mote out of thine eye; and lo, the beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


The lost man will often stop with the first verse, after all, you don't want to ruin your life, filled with sin, and most, even the Christian, will stop at the end of verse 2. As Jesus has stated in the second verse, we must never judge a person by stricter standards than we will want to be judged by. At the same time we are given the Ten Commandments (Exo. 20) and the first five books of the Old Testament are known as the Books of the Law because we are shown, down to the last detail, how to obey them.


Jesus is teaching us, verses 3 through 5, that when we judge that we must first make ourselves right with God. That does not mean that we can sin the same sin if we keep our mouths shut to the sins of another. We are taught, through out the Bible, that God seeks after a righteous people to call His own. We are also taught, through out the scriptures that we are to grow in His grace every day of our lives here on this Earth. As His servants we are to be examples and to never lead, even a child into sin. If we do not do our very best to live a righteous life and others see us claiming the name of Christ, they will follow our example and we will be guilty of leading them into sin, just as surely as if we have driven them there at the point of a gun.

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast your pearls before the swine, lest haply they trample them under their feet, and turn and rend you.


In verse 6 we learn that we are to judge. Without judging the circumstances and the mettle of the person we are in danger of making ourselves and the Gospel into Canon Fodder to the lost man. In another verse of scripture, Jesus taught us to be ready to kick the dust off our feet and to seek the person that is ready to hear the truth. Without judgment, one will stand there for all eternity, witnessing to the same lost man and thereby make him or herself useless to the work of the Kingdom.


Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Mat 7:8 for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


Not only does Jesus teach us to pray, He is now teaching us to be proactive in our prayers. At some point in the Christians life he or she must learn to seek after God to do for them the things that they are not able to do without Him.


Mat 7:9 Or what man is there of you, who, if his son shall ask him for a loaf, will give him a stone;
Mat 7:10 or if he shall ask for a fish, will give him a serpent?
Mat 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father who is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?


God has opened His vault to us and to access it we need only to live our lives in service to Him. If we are going to serve God we must learn to follow His directions. In the Great Commission we are instructed to make desciples of men, everywher. If I walk up to a Muslim and begin to witness to him I must first judge him as being wrong and unsaved. If we are going to help the protitute break free of her sin, we must judge her as an unrepentent sinner before we can minister to her.


Mat 7:12 All things therefore whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you, even so do ye also unto them: for this is the law and the prophets.


When you see that eighteen year old getting drunk every night and putting notches on his belt to record his sexual adventures, will you just e silent, and allow him to work his way into Hell or will you judge his sin and seek to plant a seed that might, one day germinate and be harvested, later, by another Christian?

ImmersionX
5th June 2008, 05:51 PM
When you see that eighteen year old getting drunk every night and putting notches on his belt to record his sexual adventures, will you just e silent, and allow him to work his way into Hell or will you judge his sin and seek to plant a seed that might, one day germinate and be harvested, later, by another Christian?


I wouldn't be "judgeing" the child's sin...but I would be seeing/noticing said sins. God judges, we bear witness to the sinning, and should do as our Lord commanded....and plant that seed quickly.


Peace and God Bless.

PaladinGirl
5th June 2008, 09:37 PM
I wouldn't be "judgeing" the child's sin...but I would be seeing/noticing said sins. God judges, we bear witness to the sinning, and should do as our Lord commanded....and plant that seed quickly.


Peace and God Bless.



I totally agree ImmersionX. We are not the ones to judge, God is. However, we should still plant that seed of the Gospel and hope and pray that that 18 year old may one day be saved if he hasn't been saved already. :)

arunma
6th June 2008, 01:57 AM
I totally agree ImmersionX. We are not the ones to judge, God is. However, we should still plant that seed of the Gospel and hope and pray that that 18 year old may one day be saved if he hasn't been saved already. :)

At this point, though, the argument really becomes semantic. Yes, God alone is the ultimate judge of souls. But if a person is ouside of Christ, then he is already condemned, and we are required to make people aware of their condemnation apart from Christ. Whether we call this "judgment," or not, the point is that it must be done from a position of humility and complete reliance on Christ for our own justification. We must never be haughty when we judge others, but we must point out their sin out of genuine concern for their souls.

Unbelievers grossly misinterpret Matthew 7:1 because they hate for anyone to say "you have sin." Most importantly, they hate for Christians to point to their ultimate sin of rejection of the Gospel and practice of false religion, because no one wants to give up his false religion to become a believer in Jesus Christ. Alas, we must assert the truth of the Gospel over all other gods or religions, no matter how offensive this is.

WarEagle
6th June 2008, 07:06 AM
Unbelievers grossly misinterpret Matthew 7:1 because they hate for anyone to say "you have sin."

You almost never hear Matthew 7:1 quoted in context.

Any time I hear Matthew 7:1 or "you're just putting God in a box", that's a red flag to me that the person I'm talking to has some sort of sin going on that they're trying to deflect attention from.

mlqurgw
6th June 2008, 03:15 PM
Matt. 7 is a part of the whole of a message given by the Master that begins in chapter 5 and goes through chapter 7. The message has 4 parts: 5:1-12 the first part, 5:13-48 the second, 6:1-7:14 the third and 7:15-23 the fourth. 7:24-29 is the conclusion of the whole. 7:1 simply cannot be understood except in the context of the whole message and the 3rd part in particular. Christ is not telling us how to live but showing that none do live as required. He is dealing in particular with religious practice and self-righteousness in the 3 part. 7:1 is explained by verses 3-5.

eldermike
6th June 2008, 03:45 PM
Matt. 7 is a part of the whole of a message given by the Master that begins in chapter 5 and goes through chapter 7. The message has 4 parts: 5:1-12 the first part, 5:13-48 the second, 6:1-7:14 the third and 7:15-23 the fourth. 7:24-29 is the conclusion of the whole. 7:1 simply cannot be understood except in the context of the whole message and the 3rd part in particular. Christ is not telling us how to live but showing that none do live as required. He is dealing in particular with religious practice and self-righteousness in the 3 part. 7:1 is explained by verses 3-5.

Amen! I can add nothing to this.

th1bill
6th June 2008, 05:15 PM
At this point, though, the argument really becomes semantic. Yes, God alone is the ultimate judge of souls. But if a person is ouside of Christ, then he is already condemned, and we are required to make people aware of their condemnation apart from Christ. Whether we call this "judgment," or not, the point is that it must be done from a position of humility and complete reliance on Christ for our own justification. We must never be haughty when we judge others, but we must point out their sin out of genuine concern for their souls.

Unbelievers grossly misinterpret Matthew 7:1 because they hate for anyone to say "you have sin." Most importantly, they hate for Christians to point to their ultimate sin of rejection of the Gospel and practice of false religion, because no one wants to give up his false religion to become a believer in Jesus Christ. Alas, we must assert the truth of the Gospel over all other gods or religions, no matter how offensive this is.
... Well stated! I suppose I need to attend some college classes so that I can dumb myself down and cease to rely on other folks ability to understand the context of that, which they are reading. Apparently, a man that finished the eighth grade, almost, will speak with far to much intelligence for the average reader today. In he short preparation for taking my GED I was assured, by the instructor that I needed to never write, or speak to people in a style that a fifth grader could understand. But while you have understood what I have written, you appear to one of the very few that "got it."

mlqurgw
6th June 2008, 05:56 PM
... Well stated! I suppose I need to attend some college classes so that I can dumb myself down and cease to rely on other folks ability to understand the context of that, which they are reading. Apparently, a man that finished the eighth grade, almost, will speak with far to much intelligence for the average reader today. In he short preparation for taking my GED I was assured, by the instructor that I needed to never write, or speak to people in a style that a fifth grader could understand. But while you have understood what I have written, you appear to one of the very few that "got it."
I got what you were saying I just happened to believe that your exposition of the passage was as much out of context with the whole as those you were railing against. If you think you have to dumb yourself down to my level then you have got a long way to go.

LivingWorshipper
6th June 2008, 06:56 PM
Exactly. And that's why immorality has progressed so much within many churches: because of a misinterpreted text. It's sad how us Christians have become "sin-tolerant". It is not that we must be: "You are a sinner! I am holier than thou!" However, we must call things by their name: bread, bread; wine, wine; and sin, sin, but always knowing that we must be humble when doing it, because we can likewise fall in the same sins. That's why Galatians 6:1 teaches us. As well, other verses tells us to rebuke, correct, teach, etcetera.