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sk8Joyful
13th May 2008, 08:16 PM
Check out Nexialys' announcement (http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7232968)
on where things stand today and what's coming in the next few days!

Yes, I read that. (I'm leaving for 3-days o/o town for Education-week).

I wonder, upon my return, IF CF :P will continue staying recognizable. :thumbsup: What do you think? ;)

heavensangelwv
13th May 2008, 08:17 PM
No, the background doesn't suit you. It's too dark. The castle has dungeons and murder and evil lurking in every corner. It's not a lady's castle. It's for knights, armed and armoured.

Sometimes, we have to fight flying dragons that come to our castle. So please, for your own safety, go somewhere else!!! The dark background compliments my white outfit... ;) :D

Dungeons... murder... evil... dragons.... Pppssshhhhhh They don't bother me :D :P

loribee59
13th May 2008, 08:25 PM
Noooooo!

Not more blessings bugs, anything but that!

amen, sister!

They got it nipped.


Now it's only a question of what they'll do next :D

I'm SO glad I wasn't here earlier today, otherwise, I'd be on the floor begging to NOT have blessings/reps added to me... that other night was SO fun...wasn't it?? ;)

sk8Joyful
13th May 2008, 08:30 PM
How weird :scratch: Earlier today, after getting repped, it showed: "power 3750"

Now, with the newest-explanation, it says: "Reps: 3737942 (power: 3746)" ^_^
~
on 2nd. thought, WHY have we got that REP-creature at all :confused:

is it for continually-encouraging... :thumbsup:
(some christians ordinarily not so inclined), to *selflessly* Bless their fellow humanity?
What (other than just *fun*) can you think of? :P

pgp_protector
13th May 2008, 08:32 PM
amen, sister!



I'm SO glad I wasn't here earlier today, otherwise, I'd be on the floor begging to NOT have blessings/reps added to me... that other night was SO fun...wasn't it?? ;)

Aww and I gave out too many reps for the day :(

loribee59
13th May 2008, 08:36 PM
Aww and I gave out too many reps for the day :(
neener neener...:P

Bombila
13th May 2008, 08:39 PM
Here, I think, is the original of your background castle:

http://www.gla.ac.uk/medicalgenetics/2003/030419eileandonan2.jpg

It is Eilean Donan castle, a very real, interesting and beautiful place.

tamlis
13th May 2008, 08:43 PM
Hey, how do you get little smilies and such in the repping box?

pgp_protector
13th May 2008, 08:46 PM
Hey, how do you get little smilies and such in the repping box?

Same way you put them in post, just use the : ) = :) or ; ) = ;) ect

pgp_protector
13th May 2008, 08:46 PM
neener neener...:P

There's always tomorrow :ebil:

sk8Joyful
13th May 2008, 08:53 PM
Same way you put them in post, just use the : ) = :) or ; ) = ;) ect


You know, we used to have a "Cheat-sheet" :D, with these things all written out. Where?? is that list now? :thumbsup:

FriendsFellowship
13th May 2008, 08:54 PM
You know, we used to have a "Cheat-sheet" :D, with these things all written out. Where?? is that list now? :thumbsup:

http://christianforums.com/misc.php?do=showsmilies

The link is at the bottom of the page.

heavensangelwv
13th May 2008, 08:59 PM
Here, I think, is the original of your background castle:

http://www.gla.ac.uk/medicalgenetics...leandonan2.jpg (http://www.gla.ac.uk/medicalgenetics/2003/030419eileandonan2.jpg)

It is Eilean Donan castle, a very real, interesting and beautiful place.That is so very pretty!!

tamlis
13th May 2008, 09:03 PM
You know, we used to have a "Cheat-sheet" :D, with these things all written out. Where?? is that list now? :thumbsup:

Hey thanks! I'll use that:thumbsup:

sk8Joyful
13th May 2008, 09:05 PM
http://christianforums.com/misc.php?do=showsmilies

The link is at the bottom of the page.

Thanks!!!
REPS to *you* :hug: for "Smilie-cheat-sheet" :thumbsup: Annie

tamlis
13th May 2008, 09:06 PM
http://christianforums.com/misc.php?do=showsmilies

The link is at the bottom of the page.


Thanks:)

FriendsFellowship
13th May 2008, 09:09 PM
Thanks!!!
REPS to *you* :hug: for "Smilie-cheat-sheet" :thumbsup: Annie

Thanks:)

You're welcome! :)

I'd rep you back, but I'm out for a while! :(

sk8Joyful
13th May 2008, 09:11 PM
Here, I think, is the original of your background castle:

http://www.gla.ac.uk/medicalgenetics/2003/030419eileandonan2.jpg

It is Eilean Donan castle, a very real, interesting and beautiful place.

"medical- :scratch: GENE-TICS" :eek: - creeeeeeepy ^_^

sk8Joyful
13th May 2008, 09:16 PM
You're welcome! :)

I'd rep you back, but I'm out for a while! :(

Hey, I really LIKE your Background :thumbsup: Do you raise :P *cuddly-bears* :hug: to
give away... :D

FriendsFellowship
13th May 2008, 09:17 PM
Hey, I really LIKE your Background :thumbsup: Do you raise :P *cuddly-bears* :hug: to
give away... :D

No, I don't give them away. I keep them! :D My house has cute cuddly bears all over! :)

Lisa0315
13th May 2008, 09:27 PM
Someone has given me 15 or 20K in blessings in the last five hours. Whomever it was, thank you. I didn't get any kind of notification, but I do appreciate it.

Lisa

pgp_protector
13th May 2008, 09:31 PM
Someone has given me 15 or 20K in blessings in the last five hours. Whomever it was, thank you. I didn't get any kind of notification, but I do appreciate it.

Lisa

I'm betting you also got 7 to 10K in rep today also right ? :)

Lisa0315
13th May 2008, 09:34 PM
I'm betting you also got 7 to 10K in rep today also right ? :)

Definitely have more than I had before. I used to keep up pretty good but I haven't been able to since the change. I don't know what the change was though. I had 1 million and some change, and now I have 1.1 million.

Lisa

sk8Joyful
13th May 2008, 09:37 PM
No, I don't give them away. I keep them!
:D My house has cute cuddly bears all over! :)

I C. aka *children* :thumbsup: "Train-UP a child :clap: in the ways... of GOD; so
they live.. Blessed... all their life" :angel: GOOD job! :wave:

pgp_protector
13th May 2008, 09:38 PM
Definitely have more than I had before. I used to keep up pretty good but I haven't been able to since the change. I don't know what the change was though. I had 1 million and some change, and now I have 1.1 million.

Lisa

For a while if you got reps you also got blessings = to 2X the Rep power of the repper.
So if I reped ya with a rep power of 150K you would of also received 300K in blessings.
This bug was fixed in short time though.

Lisa0315
13th May 2008, 09:48 PM
For a while if you got reps you also got blessings = to 2X the Rep power of the repper.
So if I reped ya with a rep power of 150K you would of also received 300K in blessings.
This bug was fixed in short time though.

Aha!!!! Thanks for the explanation!

Lisa

loribee59
13th May 2008, 09:49 PM
There's always tomorrow :ebil:

The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun!

Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs,
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!

When I'm stuck a day
That's gray,
And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh!

The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!

Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

:P;)

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 09:54 PM
Feh... thunderstorms predicted here. Like the pretty little fireshow going on just now. Like has been going on for the past two weeks.

OK, April showers I understand. May flowers and all that.

But what possible good are May thunderstorms? What do they bring?

ETA: I know what May thunderstorms bring--they bring May SINUS HEADACHES!


Hmm... Rep points and Rep power listed now. Cool.

Lisa0315
13th May 2008, 09:55 PM
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun!

Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs,
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!

When I'm stuck a day
That's gray,
And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh!

The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!

Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

:P;)

LOL! May I ask what brought that on?

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 09:57 PM
LOL! May I ask what brought that on?

An Ear Worm. Betcha it was an Ear Worm.

heavensangelwv
13th May 2008, 10:26 PM
I really enjoyed being able to rep at full rep power while it lasted... But, I don't really like it taking us to another page to rep instead of doing the drop down box like before. I really ♥ed that little box....

Does anyone know if it will be coming back?? :D

ravenscape
13th May 2008, 10:27 PM
I really enjoyed being able to rep at full rep power while it lasted... But, I don't really like it taking us to another page to rep instead of doing the drop down box like before. I really ♥ed that little box....

Does anyone know if it will be coming back?? :D
don't know for sure, but I seriously doubt we'll keep it this way if we don't have to.

~free~
13th May 2008, 10:29 PM
How can I disable "find all posts"? It's not uner change options like it used to be.

~free~
13th May 2008, 10:29 PM
How can I disable "find all posts"? It's not uner change options like it used to be.

~free~
13th May 2008, 10:30 PM
How can I disable "find all posts"? It's not uner change options like it used to be.

~free~
13th May 2008, 10:30 PM
How can I disable "find all posts"? It's not under change options like it used to be.

~free~
13th May 2008, 10:30 PM
How can I disable "find all posts"? It's not uner change options like it used to be.

~free~
13th May 2008, 10:31 PM
How can I disable "find all posts"? It's not under change options like it used to be.

Angel4Truth
13th May 2008, 10:31 PM
Hey lindon? Whats a brakeman?

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 10:32 PM
Not like THAT! :P

~free~
13th May 2008, 10:32 PM
wowsers! :eek:

heavensangelwv
13th May 2008, 10:33 PM
don't know for sure, but I seriously doubt we'll keep it this way if we don't have to. I hope not... It will take me forever and three years to rep everyone on dial-up ^_^

heavensangelwv
13th May 2008, 10:33 PM
Lol... I guess you really want that off of your profile huh, ~free~?? ^_^

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 10:33 PM
Hey lindon? Whats a brakeman?

The Brakemen is a political organization. There are exactly 17 of us. Not because 17 is a special number, but becuase we couldn't find anyone else who wanted to join.

~free~
13th May 2008, 10:34 PM
Lol... I guess you really want that off of your profile huh, ~free~?? ^_^
:sorry:

heavensangelwv
13th May 2008, 10:36 PM
The Brakemen is a political organization. There are exactly 17 of us. Not because 17 is a special number, but becuase we couldn't find anyone else who wanted to join. It's a sad, sad world... :P

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 10:43 PM
It's a sad, sad world... :P

Nah, it's probably for the best. Can't have too many Anarchists running about. Doesn't look good.


And now, a case of They Said WHAT?:

Martin Cemetery to hold its annual homecoming

A New Dawn
13th May 2008, 10:46 PM
How can I disable "find all posts"? It's not under change options like it used to be.

In answer to your question, it is already disabled for everyone. The only one who can search your posts is yourself (and maybe the moderators, though that is only a guess.)

loribee59
13th May 2008, 10:55 PM
There's always tomorrow :ebil:

LOL! May I ask what brought that on?

PGP started it! yes, he did! thats what brought it on. Phhhhffftt..:P

An Ear Worm. Betcha it was an Ear Worm.

nahh....it was "The Addressing of Cats" that was my ear worm all morning. And some Celtic fiddling, too.

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 11:00 PM
nahh....it was "The Addressing of Cats" that was my ear worm all morning. And some Celtic fiddling, too.

You read my new sig!

heavensangelwv
13th May 2008, 11:01 PM
Nah, it's probably for the best. Can't have too many Anarchists running about. Doesn't look good.
Indeed.... You do have a point

loribee59
13th May 2008, 11:09 PM
You read my new sig!

looks more of a Rat Pack jazzy song....y'know....Frankie, Sammy, Dean.... :cool:
shoo be do be do be do do do....

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 11:11 PM
looks more of a Rat Pack jazzy song....y'know....Frankie, Sammy, Dean.... :cool:
shoo be do be do be do do do....

I think Eliot liked jazz.

Angel4Truth
13th May 2008, 11:15 PM
checked out your siggy too lindon...

UAW/MF define? Im guessing united auto workers male and female but im guessing im not right - i thought brakeman before i asked you what it was - was someone who put brakes on cars

loribee59
13th May 2008, 11:17 PM
I think Eliot liked jazz.

true that....ALW did inject some jazz into the musical...mostly during the first part of the "Jellicle Ball"

how's things going with the updates on CF 1.999? :P And where's Silent Traveler...? haven't seen her around here lately.

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 11:22 PM
checked out your siggy too lindon...

define? Im guessing united auto workers male and female but im guessing im not right - i thought brakeman before i asked you what it was - was someone who put brakes on cars

Heh, no, nothing to do with autos. Find out who cut the fence at Woodstock, turning it into a free concert, and you'll find out what UAW/MF means.

The Brakemen attempt to act as a brake on runaway government (and governance) by supporting and encouraging Anarchy (first) and Pure Democracy (second). One point worth noting, though, is that should Anarchy actually become a realistic possibility, the Brakemen would quickly reverse direction, because Anarchy would be a nightmare... as such, I suppose we'd still be acting as a brake.

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 11:26 PM
true that....ALW did inject some jazz into the musical...mostly during the first part of the "Jellicle Ball"

how's things going with the updates on CF 1.999? :P And where's Silent Traveler...? haven't seen her around here lately.

Haven't seen ST around in a bit. You might find her in one of the other Support / Assistance categories here (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=879) and here (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=30).


Too bad they didn't have time to put Growltiger's Last Stand into the video version of the musical.

loribee59
13th May 2008, 11:40 PM
Haven't seen ST around in a bit. You might find her in one of the other Support / Assistance categories here (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=879) and here (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=30).


Too bad they didn't have time to put Growltiger's Last Stand into the video version of the musical.

aww...I dunno if ST got my PM...haven't heard back from her. guess she's pretty swamped with all the PM's. LOL

as for the video...I don't mind that Growltiger's been left out, but seeing it on B'way 5 times, it was funny and very elaborate. I got the chance to dance with Rum Tum Tugger and have a "cat" crawl up to me on stage (I had stage seat) during "Naming of the Cats" and I met Michael Gruber (Munkustrap on video) a few times. Good times back then! :cool:

Lindon Tinuviel
13th May 2008, 11:48 PM
Gruber is the best Munkustrap I've seen. :pout: Wish I'd had a stage seat....

JoabAnias
14th May 2008, 03:19 AM
Not meaning to sound crass but this reminds me of the e-mail scams I see in my inbox nearly every day.

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 03:22 AM
[/size]The dark background compliments my white outfit... ;) :D

Dungeons... murder... evil... dragons.... Pppssshhhhhh They don't bother me :D :P

Anyway, it's a British castle. It's in Scotland. You're American. Stick to an American building! Hehe.

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 06:25 AM
Well, wouldn't ya know it... View Forum Leaders isn't working right now....

JoabAnias
14th May 2008, 06:37 AM
Well, wouldn't ya know it... View Forum Leaders isn't working right now....

If you mean to send that post off to a mod of the forum like Bemish asks I already did it last night.

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 06:39 AM
If you mean to send that post off to a mod of the forum like Bemish asks I already did it last night.

I was actually thinking of dragging somebody in by their ear, but yeah, we can do it your way.

JoabAnias
14th May 2008, 06:47 AM
By all means sir feel free.

Here is a list of forum mods.

jessesgirl http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/sup.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=157772) , OddBeani http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/sup.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=75818) , [serious] http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/sup.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=160873) , flyingsum0 http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/sup.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=119220) , Talmidah http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/mod.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=20942)

I sent a PM to flyingsum0 but if you would like to pursue if for expediency sake please feel free.

I monitored over night and he didn't return. He may be legit for all we know but it still needs to be addressed of course and I am heading to beddie bye.

Peace.

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 06:55 AM
By all means sir feel free.

Here is a list of forum mods.

jessesgirl http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/sup.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=157772) , OddBeani http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/sup.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=75818) , [serious] http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/sup.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=160873) , flyingsum0 http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/sup.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=119220) , Talmidah http://www3.christianforums.com/images/userinfo/mod.jpg (http://christianforums.com/member.php?u=20942)

I sent a PM to flyingsum0 but if you would like to pursue if for expediency sake please feel free.

I monitored over night and he didn't return. He may be legit for all we know but it still needs to be addressed of course and I am heading to beddie bye.

Peace.


I don't really know... most... of those people. I was kinda hunting for somebody I know.

Wanna get a kick, Google his name.... ;)

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 06:58 AM
Nighty night.

Ummm... why does this Forum suddenly require authorization to post?

JoabAnias
14th May 2008, 07:12 AM
Nighty night.

Ummm... why does this Forum suddenly require authorization to post?

Must have been a hic-up or they were updating something.

I deleted the posts as spam for now since there has been no reply from forum mods before I sign off.

Night.

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 07:16 AM
Cool, thanks. :)

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 07:23 AM
Anyway, it's a British castle. It's in Scotland. You're American. Stick to an American building! Hehe.

I am purdy sure a castle in Scotland would be a Scottish castle, don't you think? :P

MeekOne
14th May 2008, 09:04 AM
The reps should be back as they were, eventually.
However, there was a major crash earlier today, which has put things back again.
It is being worked on, and we'll get there... just bear with us, please. :)Any word on when we are going to be able to see the reps in posts knowing that they registered when we give them? Seeing the given reps on our User CP page? Thanks :)

Criada
14th May 2008, 09:10 AM
You can already see the given reps on your User CP.... they are beneath the received ones... Keep scrolling down!
Not sure whether the post reps are working... one moment...

ETA: yup... they are!

~StarMaker~
14th May 2008, 09:11 AM
Reps and rep power are both showing in posts currently.

Don't know when they will show on the home page?

Starmaker

MeekOne
14th May 2008, 09:17 AM
You can already see the given reps on your User CP.... they are beneath the received ones... Keep scrolling down!
Not sure whether the post reps are working... one moment...

ETA: yup... they are!Thanks for that, it truly wasn't working just a few minutes ago. At least I could not see them. Glad they are back now! :clap:

Reps and rep power are both showing in posts currently.

Don't know when they will show on the home page?

StarmakerThanks for that response too! :wave:

AniGequoti
14th May 2008, 10:40 AM
I can't get out anymore reps right now. I'm repless. :(

ravenscape
14th May 2008, 10:57 AM
Do we still have a ticker that tells us how many we've given out and when we can give more?

Where -is- it, if so.
We don't have a ticker yet, as far as I know.

youthwalk
14th May 2008, 11:08 AM
The ticker will be helpful...:D I ran out of reps since like 9:30 am ^_^

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 11:10 AM
I am purdy sure a castle in Scotland would be a Scottish castle, don't you think? :P

Sheesh, surely you know that Scotland is British? It's like saying a beach in California is Californian but not American. :doh:

youthwalk
14th May 2008, 11:18 AM
BeamishBoy - your name's from Jabberwocky right?

Ariel
14th May 2008, 11:18 AM
Sheesh, surely you know that Scotland is British? It's like saying a beach in California is Californian but not American. :doh:

A beach can be Californian but not American? Yup, sounds about right. Some of those Californians are mighty strange, you know. I'm not sure WHAT they are :D

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 11:21 AM
BeamishBoy - your name's from Jabberwocky right?

Howdy!!! Yes, it is. I'm the one with the vorpal sword and I slew the Jabberwock.

Criada
14th May 2008, 11:26 AM
However, the bandersnatch is still out there!

Can we make a token attempt to keep to the topic, please?
People come here looking for news, not Lewis Carroll!

youthwalk
14th May 2008, 11:32 AM
:sorry: apologies!

O frabjous day! Callooh Callay!
gonna go galumph back now. :)

Back to updates!

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 11:58 AM
Sheesh, surely you know that Scotland is British? It's like saying a beach in California is Californian but not American. :doh:

I thought Scotland was independent. I was wrong. LOL!

MN John
14th May 2008, 12:16 PM
Sheesh, surely you know that Scotland is British? It's like saying a beach in California is Californian but not American. :doh:
California is partly in USA and partly in Mexico. But both Mexico and USA are in North America.

bill16652
14th May 2008, 12:57 PM
Wondering when reps will come back no time like there used to be

MeekOne
14th May 2008, 01:37 PM
Wondering when reps will come back no time like there used to beI agree. :)

What's with the you can only give 40 reps at a time thing? What's the purpose of having rep power if you can't use it? Absolutely no time like the present. Also, why is it turning to a new page instead of opening to a new window when you hit the reps button??

Please please look into this...its kind of important to some of us. Thanks.

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 01:39 PM
I agree. :)

What's with the you can only give 40 reps at a time thing? What's the purpose of having rep power if you can't use it? Absolutely no time like the present. Also, why is it turning to a new page instead of opening to a new window when you hit the reps button??

Please please look into this...its kind of important to some of us. Thanks.
:thumbsup:

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 03:31 PM
I thought Scotland was independent. I was wrong. LOL!

Haha, did you think Wales was independent too? This is the first time I've ever heard that anyone thought Scotland was independent. Scotland has been the same as England since King James ruled Britain. This is the same King James as the KJV (of AV1611VET's fame; hehe). I wonder if AV1611VET is aware that King James was a practising homosexual. I wonder if all proponents of KJV are aware of that. Hehe.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 03:34 PM
Haha, did you think Wales was independent too? This is the first time I've ever heard that anyone thought Scotland was independent. Scotland has been the same as England since King James ruled Britain. This is the same King James as the KJV (of AV1611VET's fame; hehe). I wonder if AV1611VET is aware that King James was a practising homosexual. I wonder if all proponents of KJV are aware of that. Hehe.

King James funded the research. He did not do the research himself. As for his sexual orientation, I have no idea. I do know that God will use sinful men to accomplish many things. We are all sinners afterall.

Lisa

IamRedeemed
14th May 2008, 03:39 PM
Even if that were true,(which I have no such knowledge of), it is apparent that King James
was interested in having a copy of the Bible that he could read and understand and he
did not order that the Scriptures against any particular sins that he was or was not
committing were removed, but received it as was written, so, other than a noteworthy
attempt to cause divisions, your point would be? :confused:


Haha, did you think Wales was independent too? This is the first time I've ever heard that anyone thought Scotland was independent. Scotland has been the same as England since King James ruled Britain. This is the same King James as the KJV (of AV1611VET's fame; hehe). I wonder if AV1611VET is aware that King James was a practising homosexual. I wonder if all proponents of KJV are aware of that. Hehe.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 03:45 PM
Personal relationships
Main article: Personal relationships of James I of England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_relationships_of_James_I_of_England)
Throughout his life James had close relationships with male courtiers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtier), in particular Esmé Stewart, 6th Lord d'Aubigny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esm%C3%A9_Stewart%2C_1st_Duke_of_Lennox) (later 1st Duke of Lennox); Robert Carr, 1st Earl of Somerset (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Carr%2C_1st_Earl_of_Somerset); and George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Villiers%2C_1st_Duke_of_Buckingham). There has been debate among historians about the nature of these relationships: "The evidence of his correspondence and contemporary accounts have led some historians to conclude that the king was homosexual or bisexual. In fact, the issue is murky." (Bucholz, 2004)[106] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_I_of_England#cite_note-105) In Basilikon Doron, James lists sodomy among crimes "ye are bound in conscience never to forgive". At age twenty-three, James and three hundred of his men performed a dramatic rescue of Anne of Denmark when she was stranded on the coast of Norway. They married and bore seven children, some sources say nine children, only three of whom survived. James also had a documented two year affair with Anne Murray, later Lady Glamis, to whom he wrote poetry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_I_of_England

ravenscape
14th May 2008, 03:46 PM
:eek:

Getting a little off the topic of the upgrade here. I'm guessing this discussion should probably transplant over to Church History, maybe?

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 03:48 PM
:eek:

Getting a little off the topic of the upgrade here. I'm guessing this discussion should probably transplant over to Church History, maybe?

Nah...We are done. Besides, I am sorta hoping this will become one of those Infinite Threads.

krstlros
14th May 2008, 03:48 PM
Perhaps a thread cleanup is in order?

ravenscape
14th May 2008, 03:50 PM
Nah...We are done. Besides, I am sorta hoping this will become one of those Infinite Threads.
This is the thread that never ends,
Yes it goes on and on my friend.
Some people started posting it,
not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue posting it forever just because —>

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 03:52 PM
This is the thread that never ends,
Yes it goes on and on my friend.
Some people started posting it,
not knowing what it was,
And they'll continue posting it forever just because —>

Or...
DIS AR TEH TEH THREAD DAT NEVR ENDZ,
YEZ IT GOEZ ON AN ON MAH FREND.
SUM PEEPS STARTD POSTIN IT,
NOT KNOWIN WUT IT WUZ,
AN THEYLL CONTINUE POSTIN IT FOREVR JUS CUZ

ravenscape
14th May 2008, 03:53 PM
Perhaps a thread cleanup is in order?
I'd have to split half the thread out to make it completely on topic.

We're letting this thread drift a little here and there. There is a more focused thread with lots of links and Q&A here (http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7231670). It may not be a perfect solution, but the two threads meet the needs of a diverse population to some extent.

ravenscape
14th May 2008, 03:54 PM
Or...
DIS AR TEH TEH THREAD DAT NEVR ENDZ,
YEZ IT GOEZ ON AN ON MAH FREND.
SUM PEEPS STARTD POSTIN IT,
NOT KNOWIN WUT IT WUZ,
AN THEYLL CONTINUE POSTIN IT FOREVR JUS CUZ
I can haz lambchopz naow?

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 03:58 PM
I can haz lambchopz naow?

:clap: I MADE U COOKY 4 DESERT BUT I EATD IT

ravenscape
14th May 2008, 04:02 PM
Would you believe, "Our intentions are good" as an excuse? :D
Hee...my hands are hardly clean here, ya know! ^_^

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 04:04 PM
Hee...my hands are hardly clean here, ya know! ^_^

That's what happens when Uncle H. gets ahold of you.

ravenscape
14th May 2008, 04:23 PM
fair enough :D

Just out of curiosity, do we have even a -guesstimate- on when Blessings will come back up?

~ Lynn
My guestimate (which has been off a few times in the last two weeks) would be sometime next week.

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 04:26 PM
My guestimate (which has been off a few times in the last two weeks) would be sometime next week.

But I do have my blessings on the top right of my posts.

pgp_protector
14th May 2008, 04:30 PM
Everyone does.

But can you see anyone -else's- blessings :D

The answer is no, because it's been mostly disabled. The bank savings account is also completely offline.

The only person's blessings you can see is your own.

~ Lynn

I actually like that :D

ravenscape
14th May 2008, 04:33 PM
I actually like that :D
Yah, me too until we can deposit them again.

bill16652
14th May 2008, 04:38 PM
I do to except it does hide those that may need blessed

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 04:40 PM
Yah, me too until we can deposit them again.

You guys don't like people to know how wealthy you are? Afraid of being kidnapped? Hehe. But ravenscape, it's OK. I will always bear testimony to how generous you've been to me with your blessings.

Anyone else wants to make me grateful? You know what to do with some of your blessings. Hehe. Just kidding.

Actually, there are some people who are disgruntled about many things in CF (you know how discontent people can be?) and they've gone over to another forum. They vow not to return to CF. I asked them to give me their blessings cos they weren't ever returning to CF anyway. But so far, they haven't given me any. Hehe. But most of the people who've gone out of CF are atheists and the Satanist sort of religions and these people hate me. Hehe.

Tychicus2
14th May 2008, 05:05 PM
There is currently no way that I know of to share blessings with others or I would gladly share some.. :wave:

Ty

Tychicus2
14th May 2008, 05:08 PM
I like the way CF was in terms of blessings... you can see what you have on hand but no one can see what you have in the bank...

Ty

pgp_protector
14th May 2008, 05:09 PM
There is currently no way that I know of to share blessings with others or I would gladly share some.. :wave:

Ty

You're just looking forward to the first auction aren't ya :D

Tychicus2
14th May 2008, 05:16 PM
You're just looking forward to the first auction aren't ya :D

Not really...

I'm more the surprise peeps with anonamous blessings in their inbox kind of guy...;):D:P So hopefully they bring back the anonamous part with the bank... but I do hope they do the bank first...:cool:

Ty

pgp_protector
14th May 2008, 05:35 PM
Not really...

I'm more the surprise peeps with anonamous blessings in their inbox kind of guy...;):D:P So hopefully they bring back the anonamous part with the bank... but I do hope they do the bank first...:cool:

Ty

Well if they don't allow anonymous blessings you can always create a blessing sock :D

Angel4Truth
14th May 2008, 05:54 PM
what happened to that blessing game in our user cp - did someone win? I entered 10 times and now the thing about it is missing

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 06:02 PM
what happened to that blessing game in our user cp - did someone win? I entered 10 times and now the thing about it is missing

I know we can buy things with blessings but what can one do with reps?

pgp_protector
14th May 2008, 06:06 PM
I know we can buy things with blessings but what can one do with reps?

Rep Others :)

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 06:17 PM
Rep Others :)

But you can rep others without having or using up any reps. They're independent of each other.

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 07:34 PM
:eek:

I thought this was the "Announcement: Welcome to CF2 Answers" thread ;)

Yesterday I posted there many times; so now WHERE :confused: is it???

:eek:
Personal relationships
Main article: Personal relationships of James I of England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_relationships_of_James_I_of_England)
Throughout his life James had close relationships with male courtiers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtier), in particular Esmé Stewart, 6th Lord d'Aubigny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esm%C3%A9_Stewart%2C_1st_Duke_of_Lennox) (later 1st Duke of Lennox); Robert Carr, 1st Earl of Somerset (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Carr%2C_1st_Earl_of_Somerset); and George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Villiers%2C_1st_Duke_of_Buckingham). There has been debate among historians about the nature of these relationships: "The evidence of his correspondence and contemporary accounts have led some historians to conclude that the king was homosexual or bisexual. In fact, the issue is murky." (Bucholz, 2004)[106] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_I_of_England#cite_note-105) In Basilikon Doron, James lists sodomy among crimes "ye are bound in conscience never to forgive". At age twenty-three, James and three hundred of his men performed a dramatic rescue of Anne of Denmark when she was stranded on the coast of Norway. They married and bore seven children, some sources say nine children, only three of whom survived. James also had a documented two year affair with Anne Murray, later Lady Glamis, to whom he wrote poetry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_I_of_England

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 07:47 PM
But most of the people who've gone out of CF are atheists
and the Satanist sort of religions and these people hate me. Hehe.

Really? - Well, that could be a Blessings, eh? -

Nothing like sharing one's Testimony, only to be called "a completely selfish b*stard" (spelled-out, no less).
To get that merely deleted (mods took an entire week to do that), I had to "report" ^_^ it. ~
So, having that sort of riff-raff gone, is no loss.

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 08:00 PM
Really? - Well, that could be a Blessings, eh? -

Nothing like sharing one's Testimony, only to be called "a completely selfish b*stard" (spelled-out, no less).
To get that merely deleted (mods took an entire week to do that), I had to "report" ^_^ it. ~
So, having that sort of riff-raff gone, is no loss.

They keep complaining that the rules don't allow for blasphemy, etc but I keep telling them this is CHRISTIAN forums. I invite people who like to exercise their free speech to go to a mosque preferably in a Muslim country and declare that Muhammad, by having sex with a 9-year-old, was a paedophile.

But these people always seem to target Christians only I suppose because we are taught to turn the other cheek and not cut off the heads of those who blaspheme God.

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 08:02 PM
I have a question, re "thread-Order"; messing-up occasionally,
like here for instance: "http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7198436&page=3 ";
and there it really doesn't matter, it's just a silly Word-game; (I usually prefer participating in Substantial topics).

But anyway on page 3, you can see that words didn't POST "alphabetically";
or in the ORDER that they were sent yesterday.
Is that another BUG?; or was that just some sort of fluke?? :confused:

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 08:15 PM
They keep complaining that the rules don't allow for blasphemy, etc but I keep telling them this is CHRISTIAN forums. I invite people who like to exercise their free speech to go to a mosque preferably in a Muslim country and declare that Muhammad, by having sex with a 9-year-old, was a paedophile.

But these people always seem to target Christians only I suppose because we are taught to turn the other cheek and not cut off the heads of those who blaspheme God.


This hijack brought to you by beamishboy, the letter "T", and the number 13.

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 08:19 PM
They keep complaining that ... Muhammad, by having sex with a 9-year-old, was a paedophile.

Aah, I'm sorry to tell you this, but THIS here thread is not for "pedophiles", or related similar atrocities :eek:.
And then, earlier today I got here, and people were clowning-around over World-history :scratch: subjects...

Where?? is Raven ;); usually she keeps things "on track" :thumbsup: of this
here thread, discussing "Announcements: Welcome to CF2 - answers"

Thanks for your understanding :thumbsup: beamishboy :)

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 08:22 PM
You may be happier with the CF Upgrade Q&A (http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7231670) thread, sk8. No horsing around allowed there.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:23 PM
Aah, I'm sorry to tell you this, but THIS here thread is not for "pedophiles", or related similar atrocities :eek:.
And then, earlier today I got here, and people were clowning-around over World-history :scratch: subjects...

Where?? is Raven ;); usually she keeps things "on track" :thumbsup: of this
here thread, discussing "Announcements: Welcome to CF2 - answers"

Thanks for your understanding :thumbsup: beamishboy :)

Why can't we have fun while we are waiting on the bugs to be ironed out? Has there been a single question that has not been answered? I don't understand why anyone has to be annoyed just because we have a little fun here and there. Geesh!

Lisa

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:23 PM
Aah, I'm sorry to tell you this, but THIS here thread is not for "pedophiles", or related similar atrocities :eek:.
And then, earlier today I got here, and people were clowning-around over World-history :scratch: subjects...

Where?? is Raven ;); usually she keeps things "on track" :thumbsup: of this
here thread, discussing "Announcements: Welcome to CF2 - answers"

Thanks for your understanding :thumbsup: beamishboy :) The thread for Q&A only is here (http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7231670) ;)

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 08:24 PM
I have a question, re "thread-Order"; messing-up occasionally,
like here for instance: "http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7198436&page=3 ";
and there it really doesn't matter, it's just a silly Word-game; (I usually prefer participating in Substantial topics).

But anyway on page 3, you can see that words didn't POST "alphabetically";
or in the ORDER that they were sent yesterday.
Is that another BUG?; or was that just some sort of fluke?? :confused:

bump :)

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:24 PM
Question... Is beamishboy really 13??? :scratch:

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:25 PM
Question... Is beamishboy really 13??? :scratch:

That question has been going around the internet for the last six months. I am dead serious. Not just here but all OVER.

Lisa

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 08:26 PM
Posts generally appear at the time they reach the server. Sometimes, due to myriad reasons, Post B will arrive before Post A, even if they're sent from the same machine at about the same time.

Of course, it could be a fluke.

Or a bug.

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 08:29 PM
Question... Is beamishboy really 13??? :scratch:

Oh, I love you for this. Pray tell, how old you think I am. Please be honest. I've received so many nasty comments from people in many threads who accuse me of being "childish" and I don't mind a booster from you. Go ahead and say how old you think I sound. Be realistic. 30? 40? 50?

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:29 PM
That question has been going around the internet for the last six months. I am dead serious. Not just here but all OVER.

Lisa^_^ I'm glad I'm not the only one who was wondering...

In my opinion, his 'speech' and choice of topics is not that of a thirteen year old boy... But, who knows... Lol

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:31 PM
Oh, I love you for this. Pray tell, how old you think I am. Please be honest. I've received so many nasty comments from people in many threads who accuse me of being "childish" and I don't mind a booster from you. Go ahead and say how old you think I sound. Be realistic. 30? 40? 50?
I don't recall saying you were childish... I just believe you may be older than 13 :)

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 08:31 PM
That question has been going around the internet for the last six months. I am dead serious. Not just here but all OVER.

Lisa

Lisa, do you go to a certain music forum based in the UK? You must mean that if you say "the last 6 months" because I've only joined CF early January.

And what is the verdict? I am _____ years old. Please say it.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:32 PM
^_^ I'm glad I'm not the only one who was wondering...

In my opinion, his 'speech' and choice of topics is not that of a thirteen year old boy... But, who knows... Lol

I have met others that were like that. Kids today, I really think are smarter than ever. I chat with a group of 10-12 year olds who are writing fanatics. They love Shakespeare for goodness sake. I showed one of their poems to my English Professor and he thought I was making fun of him. He did not believe that the poem was from an 11 year old boy.

So, I believe he is really 13. If he is not, then, I guess he has made a great joke on all of us. Whatever...

Lisa

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:33 PM
Lisa, do you go to a certain music forum based in the UK? You must mean that if you say "the last 6 months" because I've only joined CF early January.

And what is the verdict? I am _____ years old. Please say it.


Okay, maybe 6 months is stretching it. (shrug) I have seen your name on two other forums and the question of if you are really 13. Neither were a UK music forum.

CF is very large and folks here go other places and talk. No one has come up with a verdict yet. I think you are 13.

Lisa

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:35 PM
I do agree that kids are very intelligent today. However .... most teens wud typ like this

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:35 PM
Lisa, do you go to a certain music forum based in the UK? You must mean that if you say "the last 6 months" because I've only joined CF early January.

And what is the verdict? I am _____ years old. Please say it.


I would take it as a compliment...

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 08:35 PM
People in this thread have said nasty things about my age:

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7230160&page=16

I'm going to draw them to this thread. Keep saying how old I am. Come on, don't just say "older than 13". Be specific.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:36 PM
I do agree that kids are very intelligent today. However .... most teens wud typ like this

Yeah, thats true, but BB goes an exclusive private school in England. Of course, he may be one of the professors there conducting a sociology experiment on all of us...:D

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 08:36 PM
You may be happier with the CF Upgrade Q&A (http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7231670) thread, sk8. No horsing around allowed there.

Lordy, how many of these sorts of threads are there?? ^_^ - and
please don't tell me I'll have to wade-thru another TEN-pages. :D

(I am supposed to be mowing the weeds, & other yardwork ^_^ as we speak)

Anyway, Thanks for your suggestion. :)

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:38 PM
Why are you getting so upset that people think you may be older than 13 because you use proper grammar and talk about things that most teenagers do not? I would have taken that as a compliment at 13... :)

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:40 PM
People in this thread have said nasty things about my age:

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7230160&page=16

I'm going to draw them to this thread. Keep saying how old I am. Come on, don't just say "older than 13". Be specific.


I honestly think you are 13. I did wonder when I first met you. The reason I decided that you really are 13 is because of how you react to some things. You have an enormous amount of knowledge but at times you are very defensive. I can see you struggle against it as if you intellectually know you are doing it but it still comes across. That is quite normal for your age so don't sweat it. I happen to like you even though I rarely agree with anything you say.

Lisa

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 08:40 PM
Yeah, thats true, but BB goes an exclusive private school in England. Of course, he may be one of the professors there conducting a sociology experiment on all of us...:D

Wow, thanks!! I'm going to quote this post for as long as I live. Hehe.

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 08:40 PM
Lordy, how many of these sorts of threads are there?? ^_^ - and
please don't tell me I'll have to wade-thru another TEN-pages. :D

(I am supposed to be mowing the weeds, & other yardwork ^_^ as we speak)

Anyway, Thanks for your suggestion. :)

Well, this thread (and it's original) was started and contributed to before anybody had any clear idea of what was what. It's largely about reaction and "best guesses". The Q&A thread was started and monitored by those who were actually making the changes, so it gives concrete answers.

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:41 PM
Yeah, thats true, but BB goes an exclusive private school in England. Of course, he may be one of the professors there conducting a sociology experiment on all of us...:D There is always the possibility... I have signed on to Yahoo Chat under different ages to see if I would be treated differently. My own mini experiment. Lol

Lindon Tinuviel
14th May 2008, 08:43 PM
People in this thread have said nasty things about my age:

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7230160&page=16

I'm going to draw them to this thread. Keep saying how old I am. Come on, don't just say "older than 13". Be specific.


No you don't, Junior. The last thing we need here is another thread all about you.

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 08:43 PM
Why are you getting so upset that people think you may be older than 13 because you use proper grammar and talk about things that most teenagers do not? I would have taken that as a compliment at 13... :)

My dear lady,

I'm not upset in the least. Please say more. I'm over the moon. I'm going to save everything in pdf format as proof.

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:45 PM
My dear lady,

I'm not upset in the least. Please say more. I'm over the moon. I'm going to save everything in pdf format as proof.
It was not coming across as such.... :) But, that is ok. I often misinterpret my best friend online as well and get quite angry at him. Needless to say we no longer talk to each other online. Tone of voice does indeed play a very important role in our conversations... :)

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 08:45 PM
I do agree that kids are very intelligent today.
However .... most teens wud typ like this

I dunno what "teens" you are familiar with.

Just for the record: The delightful teens :thumbsup: I have had the pleasure of knowing,
98% of them "graduate", from college, with Honors ;) no less. And yes, this is AS "teenagers", typically age 17.

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:48 PM
Next question... what does GA stand for?? :confused:

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:49 PM
My dear lady,

I'm not upset in the least. Please say more. I'm over the moon. I'm going to save everything in pdf format as proof.


...And there would be the 13 year old boy rearing his head.

Okay, I will bite. Proof of what?

Lisa

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:50 PM
I dunno what "teens" you are familiar with.

Just for the record: The delightful teens :thumbsup: I have had the pleasure of knowing,
98% of them "graduate", from college, with Honors ;) no less. And yes, this is AS "teenagers", typically age 17. I am a high school teacher; therefore I am familiar with many different types of 'teens.' And let me assure you, most do not type or even write in pencil with proper grammar.

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:50 PM
I do see your point, Lisa. He does tend to get a little excited at times like someone who is thirteen would, but it was the grammar and use of words that made me wonder.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:51 PM
Next question... what does GA stand for?? :confused:

General Apologetics, fondly known as the Ghetto.

Lisa

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:52 PM
General Apologetics, fondly known as the Ghetto.

Lisa ^_^ That bad?

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 08:53 PM
Well, this thread (and it's original) was started and contributed to
before anybody had any clear idea of what was what. It's largely about reaction and "best guesses".

The Q&A thread was started and monitored by those who were actually making the changes, so
it gives concrete answers.

Oh, that sound like a winner! :thumbsup: Thanks for the further explanation. :)

(she says, heading off to REP :D Lindon Tinuviel, a few times, Cheers!! :))

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 08:53 PM
...And there would be the 13 year old boy rearing his head.

Okay, I will bite. Proof of what?

Lisa

I need proof for my arguments with atheists in GA. Whenever I trounce them, they will say I am an immature child. You know how they're like when they're defeated in an argument. So this is proof that I'm quite mature. So mature that people think I'm a professor doing a social test on people in the forum. I love that.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:56 PM
^_^ That bad?

No, not bad at all. It is a wonderful group.

See what happened was...During the 7-7-07 change, some mod wanted to move GA to another forum so that they would have jurisdiction over it. It upset alot of people. That mod, or someone else who wanted GA moved, compared it to an inner city ghetto. So, some of us dressed our characters up like gangstas. It was hilarious and the name stuck.

GA is unique. It has a culture, a flavor, hard to explain, but those of us who have been there awhile understand what that means, I guess. Like, in Congregation or even here, people report other people over really stupid things, but in the ghetto, you are expected to be tough and not report every little thing.

Lisa

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:57 PM
I need proof for my arguments with atheists in GA. Whenever I trounce them, they will say I am an immature child. You know how they're like when they're defeated in an argument. So this is proof that I'm quite mature. So mature that people think I'm a professor doing a social test on people in the forum. I love that.

I have not wandered around the 'ghetto' much, but I can agree with you. On most of the 'debate' threads I have posted on, atheists were very defensive and rude. I was actually very shocked at some of the topics I encounted a few nights ago. Not only were the comments being said very hostile, but they were pretty much simply making fun of Christians. I was extremely disappointed for the first time in this site.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 08:59 PM
I need proof for my arguments with atheists in GA. Whenever I trounce them, they will say I am an immature child. You know how they're like when they're defeated in an argument. So this is proof that I'm quite mature. So mature that people think I'm a professor doing a social test on people in the forum. I love that.

Oh, I see. That's cool. Like I said, there have been a few others. I can think of two off the top of my head. One was 15 and a militant atheist. He pushed my buttons worse than anyone EVER has on here. The other was 16 and he was a prolific writer. He is banned from CF I think, but I still talk to him via e-mail. He sends me his stories to read.

Lisa

heavensangelwv
14th May 2008, 08:59 PM
I have only had one thread of mine reported, and I am not really sure why it was even reported. It was a thank you thread to my Secret Buddy in the BE!!

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 09:01 PM
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I have not wandered around the 'ghetto' much, but I can agree with you. On most of the 'debate' threads I have posted on, atheists were very defensive and rude. I was actually very shocked at some of the topics I encounted a few nights ago. Not only were the comments being said very hostile, but they were pretty much simply making fun of Christians. I was extremely disappointed for the first time in this site.

I actually thought when I first entered GA that it was owned and operated by atheists. I was warned not to enter GA when I newly joined CF but as soon as I accumulated the requisite 100 posts, I started posting there and have stayed there all this while.

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 09:02 PM
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I have not wandered around the 'ghetto' much, but I can agree with you. On most of the 'debate' threads I have posted on, atheists were very defensive and rude. I was actually very shocked at some of the topics I encounted a few nights ago. Not only were the comments being said very hostile, but they were pretty much simply making fun of Christians. I was extremely disappointed for the first time in this site.

Well...some can get that way. I cannot complain. They treat me respectfully most of the time. When they cross the line with me, I tell them and 95% of the time, they will apologize.

Lisa

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 09:05 PM
I actually thought when I first entered GA that it was owned and operated by atheists. I was warned not to enter GA when I newly joined CF but as soon as I accumulated the requisite 100 posts, I started posting there and have stayed there all this while.

LOL! There are more atheists there than Christians, very true. Most Christians will go once or twice and run away screaming. Faith is something that should withstand the toughest questions and comments. That is my opinion anyway.

Lisa

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 09:06 PM
Hey, what do y'all think of my Avatar? Is it too much?

IamRedeemed
14th May 2008, 09:09 PM
Dusting your feet off and running away screaming are
two very different things. I guess it is all in perception.



LOL! There are more atheists there than Christians, very true. Most Christians will go once or twice and run away screaming. Faith is something that should withstand the toughest questions and comments. That is my opinion anyway.

Lisa

beamishboy
14th May 2008, 09:10 PM
Hey, what do y'all think of my Avatar? Is it too much?


Is it a family picture with a departed great grandmother on the far left?

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 09:11 PM
Dusting your feet off and running away screaming are
two very different things. I guess it is all in perception.


Well, you and I have been down this road before and I don't think it is a good idea to revisit. As you say, perception...Lets leave it there.

Lisa

Lisa0315
14th May 2008, 09:15 PM
Is it a family picture with a departed great grandmother on the far left?

No...^_^

I definitely need to change it. I appreciate your honesty.

It is SUPPOSED to be Jesus. See?

Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 09:24 PM
I am a high school teacher;
therefore I am familiar with many different types of 'teens.'
And let me assure you, most do not type or even write in pencil with proper grammar.

Given my previous post on this subject, it's hardly surprising that I am actually Biting, on this one -
but what you said, makes for a VERY-interesting Topic (somewhere else); you agree?

One of my sisters worked as a "High-school English" teacher, plus (substituting in classes she remains fairly clueless about). She has gone round-about (in neverending circles) ^_^ this subject of WHY increasingly many PUBLIC-schooled students, when they manage to get themselves graduated from that System at all - yet FAIL to "read" even their Diploma. :eek: Don't you find that just beyond TRAGIC!!! :eek:
~~

So, maybe I should Clarify: that the "delightful teens" :thumbsup: I referred to earlier,
were, and are, each *Home-(or more aptly said) UN-schooled*. And
for the record, the best universities - snap these right up,
because these students were *empowered* to RETAIN their ability to learn... easily & quickly.

What has been your own professional experience with this :thumbsup:, I wonder ;)

Bombila
14th May 2008, 10:18 PM
In defense of at least Canadian public schools, at least the ones my myriad neices, nephews and cousins attend, not too many graduate without receiving a good basic education. These children/teens excel at many things, writing, languages, maths, arts, music, media - almost all will attend university or other post high school education. And most of them would consider beamishboy to be another kid like themselves, if a little boastful.

Lisa, thanks for defending the outcasts in Discussion and Debate. Note they have divided our territories, dissolved D&D, moved GA, and hidden C&E inside another forum with this upgrade.

sk8Joyful
14th May 2008, 11:05 PM
In defense of at least Canadian public schools,
not too many graduate without receiving a good basic education.
These children/teens excel at many things, writing, languages, maths, arts, music, media - almost all will attend university or other post high school education.
And most of them would consider beamishboy to be another kid like themselves, if a little boastful.

You bring up another good :) point:
Yes sadly, it's a well-known fact that many countries' *Public-educations* far surpass the USA :blush:;
which tells you that "INcreasing teacher's salaries" :scratch: is obviously not the answer.

I wonder ;) how Canada is successfully different :thumbsup:, from say any of the European countries, one of which I came from as a teenager. For example, in 7th. grade: we were fluent in a 2nd. language, writing formal essays, doing geometry, cellular experiments under the microscope, building furniture... complete with scroll-work, excelling also in music, as well as sports :)

And the "drug/crime-Rates"?? - what is that :scratch: (instead of the USA-m.o.
of dumbing-down, while drugging-UP the kids at the same time, via therapists, teachers, & m.d.'s)

In Educationally-successful :thumbsup: countries, as well as families, students are (like I said previously) *empowered* to learn... and - as is the case with UNschooling families I have had the pleasure of associating with - easily & quickly.

Bombila
14th May 2008, 11:52 PM
Sk8Joyful, I don't know. I'm pretty sure, though, that we do pay our teachers better than most US schools do. It's considered a very good profession to have here. Teachers are encouraged to continually educate themselves as well. We complain about all the professional days when they are workshopping or conferencing, but perhaps it really works. I know the schools my relatives attend are not in wealthy areas, but the kids are given great opportunities to learn - practicums with local employers, French immersion trips to Quebec, opportunities to take classes in other institutions, media access, etc. My neices are constantly busy with school activities, and they love it. My oldest neice is graduating with a 98.9 average for every year in high school (yes, I'm bragging!), and had stiff competition to retain her place at the top. She's been offered very significant scholarships by eight or nine universities, and so have many of her friends.

OTOH, I have relations in Florida who graduated ten years or so ago, and they seemed to regard school as a depressing and stressful experience. Something seems to be going wrong.

Before someone brings it up - our larger cities have plenty minority immigrants, but the schools seem to be managing that with only minor difficulties.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 12:33 AM
Aah, I'm sorry to tell you this, but THIS here thread is not for "pedophiles", or related similar atrocities :eek:.
And then, earlier today I got here, and people were clowning-around over World-history :scratch: subjects...

Where?? is Raven ;); usually she keeps things "on track" :thumbsup: of this
here thread, discussing "Announcements: Welcome to CF2 - answers"

Thanks for your understanding :thumbsup: beamishboy :)

Sorry, been sick today. I'm trying to catch up on the Q&A threads now...will be back soon.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 12:47 AM
They keep complaining that the rules don't allow for blasphemy, etc but I keep telling them this is CHRISTIAN forums. I invite people who like to exercise their free speech to go to a mosque preferably in a Muslim country and declare that Muhammad, by having sex with a 9-year-old, was a paedophile.

But these people always seem to target Christians only I suppose because we are taught to turn the other cheek and not cut off the heads of those who blaspheme God.

This is better discussed in the NCR Forum. I'm pretty sure you know where that one is ;).

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 12:49 AM
I have a question, re "thread-Order"; messing-up occasionally,
like here for instance: "http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7198436&page=3 ";
and there it really doesn't matter, it's just a silly Word-game; (I usually prefer participating in Substantial topics).

But anyway on page 3, you can see that words didn't POST "alphabetically";
or in the ORDER that they were sent yesterday.
Is that another BUG?; or was that just some sort of fluke?? :confused:
I'm not sure. I know there are a couple of fluke-ish things going on. I'll post a bug report about this so the programmer guys can take a look.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 12:52 AM
People in this thread have said nasty things about my age:

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7230160&page=16

I'm going to draw them to this thread. Keep saying how old I am. Come on, don't just say "older than 13". Be specific.


Don't please. Although we let this thread veer a bit here and there, there comes a point where the derails detract, and make the thread troublesome and annoying both for people looking for answers and people trying to provide them.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 12:55 AM
Ok...there were a bunch of new posts, but most of them weren't questions. If I missed something, let me know!

sk8Joyful
15th May 2008, 01:06 AM
Sorry, been sick today.
I'm trying to catch up on the Q&A threads now...will be back soon.

I'm sorry you were sick :sick: (been there, done that for 10-days recently) :sigh:

Here, have some Reps! :P; will that help... ;)

sk8Joyful
15th May 2008, 01:18 AM
I'm not sure. I know there are a couple of fluke-ish things going on.
I'll post a bug report about this so the programmer guys can take a look.

Hi Raven :wave:

One reason I hesitate, rushing to start another BUG-report..., is that
those poor "programmer" guys are up past their eyeballs ^_^, in current BUG-reports, have you noticed ;)

And what I brought to Attention here, seems like such a minor :) Issue
(unlike the one where I chimed in: because 2-inches of the Right-side of each screen was entirely missing, making it impossible to figger out, what the heck was being said.)

But THANKS! for caring :hug: to do that :hug: Annie

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 01:20 AM
Hi Raven :wave:

One reason I hesitate, rushing to start another BUG-report..., is that
those poor "programmer" guys are up past their eyeballs ^_^, in current BUG-reports, have you noticed ;)

And what I brought to Attention here, seems like such a minor :) Issue
(unlike the one where I chimed in: because 2-inches of the Right-side of each screen was entirely missing, making it impossible to figger out, what the heck was being said.)

But THANKS! for caring :hug: to do that :hug: Annie

I've learned that it's a bug, not a fluke, and the programmers have been informed.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 01:22 AM
thanks for the reps! I'm feeling better tonight. Most likely I'll head off to the salt mines tomorrow morning!

I dragged myself off to a jazz concert my son was playing in tonight. I was afraid I'd snore through it, but I actually felt better when I got home!

sk8Joyful
15th May 2008, 01:35 AM
another question: I was looking for "CREATION and evolution Forum", when
I happened across this: Creationism The subforum for young-earth and other creationist members.

What about us, Believing (because of actual Evidence :thumbsup:) this is "OLD-earth,
with humanity a rather recent & young creation".

So, what does it matter?? - whether "old", or "young"; the point is: We are Divinely :angel: *created*, eh? ;) Annie

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 01:42 AM
another question: I was looking for "CREATION and evolution Forum", when
I happened across this: Creationism The subforum for young-earth and other creationist members.

What about us, Believing (because of actual Evidence :thumbsup:) this is "OLD-earth,
with humanity a rather recent & young creation".

So, what does it matter?? - whether "old", or "young"; the point is: We are Divinely :angel: *created*, eh? ;) Annie
There are 3 or 4 different evolution/creation discussion/debate forums.

Origins Theology (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=143) is in the General Theology area, and includes subforums for both Creationism and Evolution oriented discussions.

The Creation and Evolution (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=70) forum is in the Society area under Physical and Life Sciences. This forum is open for discussion by both Christians and Non-Christians.

sk8Joyful
15th May 2008, 01:43 AM
thanks for the reps! I'm feeling better tonight.
Most likely I'll head off to the salt mines tomorrow morning!

I dragged myself off to a jazz concert my son was playing in tonight.
I was afraid I'd snore through it, but I actually felt better when I got home!

*Giving your children POSITIVE-attention* is much, much MUCH more important, than (cf) anyday.
GOOD for the both of you! :clap:
~
re "the Salt mines"??: what sort ^_^ of work do you do, Raven? ;)

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 01:47 AM
*Giving your children POSITIVE-attention* is much, much MUCH more important, than (cf) anyday.
GOOD for the both of you! :clap:
~
re "the Salt mines"??: what sort ^_^ of work do you do, Raven? ;)
I do computer geek type stuff.

sk8Joyful
15th May 2008, 01:53 AM
There are 3 or 4 different evolution/creation discussion/debate forums.

Origins Theology (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=143) is in the General Theology area, and includes subforums for both Creationism and Evolution oriented discussions.

The Creation and Evolution (http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=70) forum is in the Society area under Physical and Life Sciences. This forum is open for discussion by both Christians and Non-Christians.

THANKS!! for this Info :)

sk8Joyful
15th May 2008, 02:00 AM
I do computer geek type stuff.

re "computer" geek type schtuff - ^_^ which reminds me:

1. Where can I find those Olympic-*rings*?? (I mentioned the other day); and
2. HOW is the *ice-arena* coming along... :P - Honestly,
this is no attempt to drive you buggy ;) - I just wanna avoid "CF-Inflationary prices",
sure to hit ^_^ when all the present FREEbees :D get yanked, LOL

lovesblessing
15th May 2008, 02:38 AM
Hello again! :wave:

I'm enjoying reading this thread when I get home from work each night......ya'll are having fun and frolic in the midst of "newness" here! Very cool! :thumbsup: Thank you for making me smile!:D

Keep up the excellent work!

lovesblessing;)

PS. My guestimate for the age of BeamishBoy is 903 years!:D I just wonder where he left the TARDIS at? ^_^

Lindon Tinuviel
15th May 2008, 03:00 AM
Copied this here both for its informational value, and for "entirely too much levity":

1. I'm not sure exactly when jobs are coming back, my best guess would be sometime next week.

2. The blessings system is partially up. We can't bank our blessings yet, but we can donate again. I think you'll see a "Donate" link in the information portion of other members' posts, up where their post count is listed.

3. No news on SS benefits except that they'll come back when the programmers can get it ironed out (along with all the other stuff they need to iron out). Info about Site Supporters was postedin in this announcemen thread (http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7232968) yesterday.

4. I'm not sure of the status of show all threads. A lot of people wanted that to go away permanently, so I'm not sure if it's a glitch or a feature, so to speak. Some of the other profile options will come back; it's just a matter of time to code and configure them.

5. I think the option to look at older reps is permanent, if it's not too much of a load on the server.


This is one of the things that the programmers will have to code; vbulletin doesn't come with that as an option. It's not a difficult thing to code, but there's a lot of code work ahead, and I don't know where on the list this one falls.



Guestbooks are replaced with the new Visitor Messages on our profiles.

The pets are coming back, just a matter of time. I don't think we'll have them back until next week at the earliest. I miss my Lenore, too!


Raven named her pet "Lenore"?

If you like Poe's work, check out a fellow named Edogawa Rampo. Go 'head... say that name five times really fast. Sound familiar? :)

beamishboy
15th May 2008, 03:51 AM
thanks for the reps! I'm feeling better tonight. Most likely I'll head off to the salt mines tomorrow morning!

I dragged myself off to a jazz concert my son was playing in tonight. I was afraid I'd snore through it, but I actually felt better when I got home!

If it's not too intrusive, what instrument does your son play and how old is he? I play the clarinet and I'm very much in love with it. I play in school orchestra but we play mainly music from the Classical/Romantic periods.

sk8Joyful
15th May 2008, 05:49 AM
Sk8Joyful, I don't know.
I know the schools my relatives attend are not in wealthy areas, but the kids are given great opportunities to learn - practicums with local employers, French immersion trips to Quebec, opportunities to take classes in other institutions, media access, etc.

My neices are constantly busy with school activities, and they love it. My oldest neice is graduating with a 98.9 average for every year in high school (yes, I'm bragging!), and had stiff competition to retain her place at the top. She's been offered very significant scholarships by eight or nine universities, and so have many of her friends.

(OTOH, I have relations in Florida who graduated ten years or so ago, and they seemed to regard school as a depressing and stressful experience. Something seems to be going wrong.)

Before someone brings it up - our larger cities have plenty minority immigrants, but the schools seem to be managing that with only minor difficulties.

Thank you! :)
Excellent report!!, about Canada :thumbsup: - sounds just like
what we've been doing, with kids & students *LOVING in fun... to learn...*

Lisa0315
15th May 2008, 07:34 AM
Copied this here both for its informational value, and for "entirely too much levity":




Raven named her pet "Lenore"?

If you like Poe's work, check out a fellow named Edogawa Rampo. Go 'head... say that name five times really fast. Sound familiar? :)

I got it!!! How fun!

youthwalk
15th May 2008, 07:44 AM
Good day all :wave:

any more updates?

Tychicus2
15th May 2008, 07:49 AM
Where is Nex ??? :scratch:

According to his profile he has not been on since 6:11 AM yesterday?

Ty

youthwalk
15th May 2008, 07:57 AM
Morning Ty...:)

Who's Nex?

Tychicus2
15th May 2008, 08:29 AM
Nex is the guy leading the work on the site

:wave: Good Morning

Ty

youthwalk
15th May 2008, 08:37 AM
Oh...yes...I see why he'd be of concern ^_^ Obviously :D

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 08:53 AM
re "computer" geek type schtuff - ^_^ which reminds me:

1. Where can I find those Olympic-*rings*?? (I mentioned the other day); and
2. HOW is the *ice-arena* coming along... :P - Honestly,
this is no attempt to drive you buggy ;) - I just wanna avoid "CF-Inflationary prices",
sure to hit ^_^ when all the present FREEbees :D get yanked, LOL
I'm not sure what Olympic rings you are talking about, but I assume it's something either in the chibi folder or the background folder, since the CFCs didn't have one. We're going to have to go through those folders carefully, because we've found some inappropriate items in use. Anyway, those are the places I would look.

The ice arena is ready to upload, when the tech folks get time.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 08:57 AM
If it's not too intrusive, what instrument does your son play and how old is he? I play the clarinet and I'm very much in love with it. I play in school orchestra but we play mainly music from the Classical/Romantic periods.
Both my sons play instruments. Older son plays saxophone and anything else that will hold still (guitar, bass, mandolin, flute, clarinet...). He's in a jazz big band, a jazz combo, and also plays in a rock band. Younger son plays trombone, bass, and is learning piano. He's in the high school jazz band and wind ensemble.

meh
15th May 2008, 09:35 AM
Where is Nex ??? :scratch:

According to his profile he has not been on since 6:11 AM yesterday?

Ty

No he hasn't. Although I assure you Lee has a team of people who are continuing to work on these things :)

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 09:47 AM
Copied this here both for its informational value, and for "entirely too much levity":




Raven named her pet "Lenore"?

If you like Poe's work, check out a fellow named Edogawa Rampo. Go 'head... say that name five times really fast. Sound familiar? :)
Heh!

beamishboy
15th May 2008, 10:36 AM
PS. My guestimate for the age of BeamishBoy is 903 years!:D I just wonder where he left the TARDIS at? ^_^


You think I'm William the Conqueror? Hehe.

beamishboy
15th May 2008, 10:43 AM
Both my sons play instruments. Older son plays saxophone and anything else that will hold still (guitar, bass, mandolin, flute, clarinet...). He's in a jazz big band, a jazz combo, and also plays in a rock band. Younger son plays trombone, bass, and is learning piano. He's in the high school jazz band and wind ensemble.

Wow, you have talented sons. I've been working very hard for my ABRSM clarinet exam that's just round the corner. I can't imagine doing flute or oboe on top of the clarinet.

Do Americans do the ABRSM exam or is that only a British thing? I know it's done worldwide. Everyone I know has heard of or has taken the ABRSM exam. Is it as popular in America or do people actually go "What on earth is ABRSM?"

The ABRSM must be the single most established music examination in the whole world. I'm now in another country and every year, tens of thousands of candidates take the exams. And they're not even anywhere near England. I hear Canadians do it too. But then, from my experience, America seems not to want to do anything that's British. Could it be that the revolution against Britain in the 18th century still rankles?

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 10:47 AM
I've never heard of ABRSM, it's not a California thing at least. Nor was it known in Florida back when I was a high school musician.

Music runs in the family. My FIL is a retired high school band director. All of his children play instruments, and now all of his grandchildren do, as well. My husband played tuba in a university band, and made his way as a professional bass guitar player for a few years. He still plays in bands, but these days it's for grins. My older son's rock band goes on a couple of tours this summer. They'll be playing in small venues mostly in Southern California. The band formed in January, so things are moving along pretty well for them.

beamishboy
15th May 2008, 11:05 AM
I've never heard of ABRSM, it's not a California thing at least. Nor was it known in Florida back when I was a high school musician.

Music runs in the family. My FIL is a retired high school band director. All of his children play instruments, and now all of his grandchildren do, as well. My husband played tuba in a university band, and made his way as a professional bass guitar player for a few years. He still plays in bands, but these days it's for grins. My older son's rock band goes on a couple of tours this summer. They'll be playing in small venues mostly in Southern California. The band formed in January, so things are moving along pretty well for them.

Music is hereditary. I think it's in the genes.

Just as I thought - Americans don't do the ABRSM. It stands for the Associated Board of the Royal Schools of Music. It's very systematic and it has a very comprehensive syllabus. It's from Grades 1 to 8, after which one takes a Diploma. It's divided into Practical and Theory. For Practical, it goes according to the instrument played. It's got an awesome syllabus for every single instrument. I saw the syllabus for the harpsichord. The syllabus usually requires the candidate to cover a wide array of music from Baroque to modern. But for the harpsichord, it's all Baroque only, for obvious reasons.

Most people in the UK and the Commonwealth take these exams from childhood onwards. But most people drop out at Grade 5. To go above Grade 5, you have to pass at least Grade 5 in the Theory exams first. Anything above Grade 5 becomes increasingly tough. It's very difficult to get the Diploma. In the UK, a Diploma from the ABRSM is accredited as a university degree.

The ABRSM flies examiners from Britain all over the world to examine candidates for the exams. I know people in India, Japan, Singapore and Hong Kong who are taking the exams.

I suppose the ABRSM is attractive because it's very structured and standardised. If someone says he's got a Grade 6 clarinet, we can immediately tell that he can play the second movement of most clarinet quintets including Mozart's Clarinet Quintet but not the other movements. At Grade 8, he should be able to play all the movements. The ABRSM syllabus also helps us to gauge the level of difficulty of many pieces of classical music.

Is there something similar in America? You're not the first who's told me that she's not heard of the ABRSM.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 11:14 AM
I'm afraid it's just not that organized in the US. Serious instrumental music instruction in the schools usually starts in 4th or 5th grade (ages 9-10). Prior to that, sometimes music is taught in school on instruments like xylophones and recorders, which young and short arms can handle easily. The emphasis in school is on ensemble skills. Many, if not most, students take private lessons to learn advanced skills and techniques for their instruments. My sons have taken private piano, guitar, saxophone and trombone lessons. They've both been studying saxophone and trombone respectively with private instructors for about 4 years each.

But, their earliest musical instruction was provided by their grandfather. He starts every grandkid off with their chosen instrument at age 9 or so (earlier for the piano folks!).

Ariel
15th May 2008, 11:18 AM
Music is hereditary. I think it's in the genes.

Just as I thought - Americans don't do the ABRSM. It stands for the Associated Board of the Royal Schools of Music. It's very systematic and it has a very comprehensive syllabus. It's from Grades 1 to 8, after which one takes a Diploma. It's divided into Practical and Theory. For Practical, it goes according to the instrument played. It's got an awesome syllabus for every single instrument. I saw the syllabus for the harpsichord. The syllabus usually requires the candidate to cover a wide array of music from Baroque to modern. But for the harpsichord, it's all Baroque only, for obvious reasons.

Most people in the UK and the Commonwealth take these exams from childhood onwards. But most people drop out at Grade 5. To go above Grade 5, you have to pass at least Grade 5 in the Theory exams first. Anything above Grade 5 becomes increasingly tough. It's very difficult to get the Diploma. In the UK, a Diploma from the ABRSM is accredited as a university degree.

The ABRSM flies examiners from Britain all over the world to examine candidates for the exams. I know people in India, Japan, Singapore and Hong Kong who are taking the exams.

I suppose the ABRSM is attractive because it's very structured and standardised. If someone says he's got a Grade 6 clarinet, we can immediately tell that he can play the second movement of most clarinet quintets including Mozart's Clarinet Quintet but not the other movements. At Grade 8, he should be able to play all the movements. The ABRSM syllabus also helps us to gauge the level of difficulty of many pieces of classical music.

Is there something similar in America? You're not the first who's told me that she's not heard of the ABRSM.



Beamish, how interesting!

The closest we have that I know of is the "Suzuki" method for strings. The books are graded, and the kids advance through the books with the help of private instruction. Both of my youngest sons have learned violin this way.

Btw--everytime I see your name those words go through my head, "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves/ Did gyre and gimble in the wabe/ All mimsy were the borogroves, and the momewraths outgrabe..."

A New Dawn
15th May 2008, 11:28 AM
PS. My guestimate for the age of BeamishBoy is 903 years!:D I just wonder where he left the TARDIS at? ^_^

For any Dr. Who fans here, we have a Dr. Who social group (http://christianforums.com/group.php?groupid=78).

And a Dr. Who club thread. (http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=5144516)

beamishboy
15th May 2008, 11:31 AM
I'm afraid it's just not that organized in the US. Serious instrumental music instruction in the schools usually starts in 4th or 5th grade (ages 9-10). Prior to that, sometimes music is taught in school on instruments like xylophones and recorders, which young and short arms can handle easily. The emphasis in school is on ensemble skills. Many, if not most, students take private lessons to learn advanced skills and techniques for their instruments. My sons have taken private piano, guitar, saxophone and trombone lessons. They've both been studying saxophone and trombone respectively with private instructors for about 4 years each.

But, their earliest musical instruction was provided by their grandfather. He starts every grandkid off with their chosen instrument at age 9 or so (earlier for the piano folks!).

It's the same for us. We go for private lessons. I'm very lucky because my teacher is the Principal Clarinettist in the Orchestra. But instructions and lessons are not the same as Grades. What I'm curious about is what exams do your sons take after they've gone for lessons. Is there a goal that the music instructor is targeting for?

The ABRSM exams are very good. They identify your areas of weakness. The practical examination is divided into different components. You play three pieces from different periods, one of which is a technical piece. Students prepare very hard for these three pieces. It's like a performance: you have to perform in front of the examiner. Unless you are graded for the piano, you will need a piano accompanist for the other instruments. Then, there is the aural part to test your hearing and your ability to sing, count beats, rhythm, etc. After that, the examiner will play a piece and you have to answer questions about that piece - genre, identify cadences, etc. The final part is the sight-reading. You are given a music sheet that you've never seen before and you have to play it for the examiner. It's very harrowing and I've seen young children leaving the exam studio in tears. But it's a good practice for the student.

One important lesson I learnt from the ABRSM exams is that if you make a mistake while playing a piece, just go on and continue to keep time. Never stop because you fail when you stop. It's a good training for actual performance on stage.

beamishboy
15th May 2008, 11:35 AM
Beamish, how interesting!

The closest we have that I know of is the "Suzuki" method for strings. The books are graded, and the kids advance through the books with the help of private instruction. Both of my youngest sons have learned violin this way.

Btw--everytime I see your name those words go through my head, "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves/ Did gyre and gimble in the wabe/ All mimsy were the borogroves, and the momewraths outgrabe..."

I've heard of the Suzuki method. But that is just a method for simplifying the teaching of an instrument. You are right - I've only heard of it in relation to the violin and the cello. But what about exams? Is there a standard exam for all Americans? I hear from a Candian that Canadians do the ABRSM exams too. Why not America?

beamishboy
15th May 2008, 11:39 AM
Beamish, how interesting!

The closest we have that I know of is the "Suzuki" method for strings. The books are graded, and the kids advance through the books with the help of private instruction. Both of my youngest sons have learned violin this way.

Btw--everytime I see your name those words go through my head, "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves/ Did gyre and gimble in the wabe/ All mimsy were the borogroves, and the momewraths outgrabe..."

Yes, so many words were coined in that poem and got accepted into the OED.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 11:41 AM
It's the same for us. We go for private lessons. I'm very lucky because my teacher is the Principal Clarinettist in the Orchestra. But instructions and lessons are not the same as Grades. What I'm curious about is what exams do your sons take after they've gone for lessons. Is there a goal that the music instructor is targeting for?

The ABRSM exams are very good. They identify your areas of weakness. The practical examination is divided into different components. You play three pieces from different periods, one of which is a technical piece. Students prepare very hard for these three pieces. It's like a performance: you have to perform in front of the examiner. Unless you are graded for the piano, you will need a piano accompanist for the other instruments. Then, there is the aural part to test your hearing and your ability to sing, count beats, rhythm, etc. After that, the examiner will play a piece and you have to answer questions about that piece - genre, identify cadences, etc. The final part is the sight-reading. You are given a music sheet that you've never seen before and you have to play it for the examiner. It's very harrowing and I've seen young children leaving the exam studio in tears. But it's a good practice for the student.

One important lesson I learnt from the ABRSM exams is that if you make a mistake while playing a piece, just go on and continue to keep timing. Never stop because you fail when you stop. It's a good training for actual performance on stage.


Tests...another can o' worms. To my knowledge there is little standardization in the test realm.

In high school, tests are usually divided into written (mostly theory) and performance. The students get some feedback on their performances, but it's not stringently graded.

For students in private music schools and at university, we have juried performances. Usually the jury is comprised of 3 music professors, and 2 or 3 pieces of music are performed. Music students do a great deal of preparation for the jury pieces.

In our area, there are a number of summer and after-school schools/camps/regional honor bands for musicians. To get into a top notch school, camp or honor band, the student goes through a rigorious audition process.

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 11:52 AM
Hey raven, do you happen to know when we'll get forum customization back, like name changes? Or -if- we will get it back?

Someone was asking elsewhere how we can change our usernames now. I assume that, right now, we can't?

~ Lynn
I don't know exactly when, but the plan is to have customization back as part of the complete upgrade.

Daffodilly
15th May 2008, 04:09 PM
I'm so glad to be able to see who's online in each forum again! :thumbsup:

Thanks. :)

FriendsFellowship
15th May 2008, 04:16 PM
I'm so glad to be able to see who's online in each forum again! :thumbsup:

Thanks. :)

Zoinks? I don't see that! :confused:

Where are you seeing that D?

pgp_protector
15th May 2008, 04:16 PM
I'm so glad to be able to see who's online in each forum again! :thumbsup:

Thanks. :)

Zoinks? I don't see that! :confused:

Where are you seeing that D?
Ditto, I'm not seeing that either.


Goes & leaves all the threads I don't want anyone to know I'm reading :blush:

ravenscape
15th May 2008, 04:32 PM
It's at the bottom of the forum lists. We don't see who is in the same threads with us (yet, anyway).

Criada
15th May 2008, 04:32 PM
Zoinks? I don't see that! :confused:

Where are you seeing that D?

Ditto, I'm not seeing that either.


Goes & leaves all the threads I don't want anyone to know I'm reading :blush:

It's at the bottom:)

Just to confuse you ;)

FriendsFellowship
15th May 2008, 04:39 PM
It's at the bottom:)

Just to confuse you ;)

No, I'm not seeing this on any page! :confused:

Unless you are talking about the main forum page.

I though D was referring to each individual thread page.