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tpony298
30th April 2008, 05:31 PM
On another thread we were talking about stealing in regards to our thithe. Question

Did John Wesley ever steal anything? :o

cristianna
30th April 2008, 06:13 PM
:scratch: Probably his mother's heart. Other than that I have no idea.

GraceSeeker
30th April 2008, 10:46 PM
There's still an outstanding warrant for his arrest if he ever shows his face in Georgia again, but I've forgotten what it's for.

tpony298
30th April 2008, 10:58 PM
lol...Cute, both of you...I was reading on the Peel web under religion and found:
Wesley was not only a powerful preacher but was also a fluent writer with a shrewd appreciation of the techniques of mass communication. Wesley's most complete triumph was as a hack author. His plagiarism was notorious and in most cases unconcealed. The object was joy above all earthly riches, so the infringement of copyright was not something Wesley felt embarrassed about - arguments which tended to the defeat of Satan were worth using wherever they came from.
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http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/adw03/peel/religion/method.htm (http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/adw03/peel/religion/method.htm)

cristianna
1st May 2008, 06:39 AM
Very interesting Tpony!

hlaltimus
7th May 2008, 06:09 PM
lol...Cute, both of you...I was reading on the Peel web under religion and found:
Wesley was not only a powerful preacher but was also a fluent writer with a shrewd appreciation of the techniques of mass communication. Wesley's most complete triumph was as a hack author. His plagiarism was notorious and in most cases unconcealed. The object was joy above all earthly riches, so the infringement of copyright was not something Wesley felt embarrassed about - arguments which tended to the defeat of Satan were worth using wherever they came from.
:
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/adw03/peel/religion/method.htm
You beat me to it as I had read the same essential claims made against Wesley by his arch opponent, Augustus Toplady, who seemed to have amassed an embarrassing amount of credible evidence against Wesley and even printed up publications to that effect. If God were to only use angelically perfect human beings though, He would use no one at all. I'm glad that God used a Jacob in the Old Testament and a Peter in the New!

tpony298
7th May 2008, 06:32 PM
You beat me to it as I had read the same essential claims made against Wesley by his arch opponent, Augustus Toplady, who seemed to have amassed an embarrassing amount of credible evidence against Wesley and even printed up publications to that effect. If God were to only use angelically perfect human beings though, He would use no one at all. I'm glad that God used a Jacob in the Old Testament and a Peter in the New!


Oh I agree, I certainly was not putting Wesley down, we were talking about stealing and the artical came to mind. All it does to my admiration of this man is to remind me that he was a man. A Godly man by all means, but still a man. I keep praying God to use me in someway and He does. Love, Pony