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k4c
28th April 2008, 06:46 AM
God created marriage and the seventh day even before sin was in the world.

Satan has attacted both these institutions, which had been created to be a blessing to God's children and have nothing to do with sin or the law at Mt.Sinai.

In six days God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them but He didn't stop there. He also created a seventh day. He blessed the seventh day and called it holy even before sin was in the world.

We can understand the six days of creation in that everyday consisted of something being made. But the seventh day is a creation in itself.

The seventh day is a day to refect on God and all the He has made for His children. It's a day that has been established for all time to bear witness to a creator.

Muslims celebrate Friday the sixth day, mainline religion celebrates Sunday the first day but the one true God calls His children to remember Saturday the seventh day.

When we, has God's children, remember to keep the seventh day holy and blessed, as God created it, we bear witness to the whole world as to which God we obey and love.

Exodus 31:13 "Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: `Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you.

When we remember the seventh day, God's holy day, to keep it separate from the other six days we will open the door for God's blessings.

Isaiah 58:13-14 "If because of the Sabbath, you turn your foot From doing your own pleasure on My holy day, And call the sabbath a delight, the holy day of the Lord honorable, And shall honor it, desisting from your own ways, From seeking your own pleasure, And speaking your own word, Then you will take delight in the Lord, And I will make you ride on the heights of the earth; And I will feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father, For the mouth of the Lord has spoken."

Jesus Himself understood the holiness of the seventh day. Listen to how Jesus was concerned about the Sabbath 40 years after His death, burial and resurrection.

Matthew 24:19-20 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those with nursing babies in those days! "And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.

Even Paul himself gathered every Sabbath with the Corinthian church, which consisted of Jew and Gentile. He did this for a year and half before he left for his next journey. That's a lot of Sabbaths...

Acts 18:1-4 After these things Paul departed from Athens and went to Corinth. And he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla (because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome); and he came to them. So, because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them and worked; for by occupation they were tentmakers. And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.
Acts 18:11 And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.

The Gentiles even begged Paul to teach them again next Sabbath.

Acts 13:42 And when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

This was long after the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. Why would a Gentile beg Paul to teach them next Sabbath? Why not Sunday, which would have been the next day?

Jesus said He is Lord of the Sabbath and how the Sabbath was made for man.

Jesus also said it was good to do good on the Sabbath.

These are not words that do away with the Sabbath, but rather, they confirm the Sabbath.

The institution of marriage and the seventh day are blessed of God and holy in His eyes. Satan hates this because he knows these things make God happy and bring blessing upon His people.

Let us remember the seventh day and the marriage covenant by keeping them holy for God.

IisJustMe
28th April 2008, 12:15 PM
Muslims celebrate Friday the sixth day, mainline religion celebrates Sunday the first day but the one true God calls His children to remember Saturday the seventh day.Firstly, there is no passage in the Bible that defines the Sabbath as being Saturday, for either Israel or the church. Sabbath simply means "a weekly rest," or simply "rest."

Second and more importantly, while it is often claimed that "God instituted the Sabbath in Eden" because of the connection between the Sabbath and creation in Exodus 20:11, that simply is not true. Although God's rest on the seventh day as noted in Genesis 2:3 did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no biblical record of the Sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. Not one Scriptural passage gives indication of Sabbath-keeping being practiced from Adam to Moses. In fact, worship was a daily matter, whether formal or informal, and any blessing was usually met with some form of worship and offering, be it large or small.

On the other hand, the Word of God makes it quite clear that Sabbath observance was a special sign between God and Israel and no one else:

Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain, saying, "Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob and tell the sons of Israel: 'You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings, and brought you to Myself. Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine ...' " (Exodus 19:3–5).

" `So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.' It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed." (Exodus 31:16–17).

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the ten commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel:

" `You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out of there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to observe the sabbath day.' " (Deuteronomy 5:15).

Notice the word "therefore." It is the simple Hebrew word 'al meaning "because of" or "on account of." The reason for the Sabbath was to remember the captivity and deliverance from Egypt. It was not God's intent in giving the Sabbath to Israel that they would remember creation, but that they would remember their Egyptian slavery and the Lord's deliverance. Note the requirements for Sabbath-keeping: A person placed under that Sabbath law could not leave his home on the Sabbath (Exodus 16:29), he could not build a fire (Exodus 35:3), and he could not cause anyone else to work (Deuteronomy 5:14). Those are pictures of captivity and enslavement, not worship, though the worship came from God's grace in choosing Israel, a nation of slaves, to be made a great and powerful nation evidencing His power and might. A person breaking the Sabbath law was to be put to death. (Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32–35) Obviously forgetting who you were because of God made you unworthy to celebrate Him by claiming to be His and showing that you were not.

An examination of New Testament passages shows us four important points:

1) Whenever Christ appears in His resurrected form and the day is mentioned, it is always the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1, 9, 10; Mark 16:9; Luke 24:1, 13, 15; John 20:19, 26).

2) The only time the Sabbath is mentioned from Acts through Revelation it is for evangelistic purposes to the Jews and the setting is usually in a synagogue (Acts chapters 13–18). Paul wrote, " ... to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews ... " (1 Corinthians 9:20) Paul did not go to the synagogue to fellowship with and edify the saints, but to convict and save the lost.

3) Once Paul states " ... from now on I will go to the Gentiles ... " (Acts 18:6), the Sabbath is never again mentioned.

4) Instead of suggesting adherence to the Sabbath day, the remainder of the New Testament implies the opposite (including the one exception to point 3 above, found in Colossians 2:16).

Looking more closely at point 4 above will reveal that there is no obligation for the New Testament believer to keep the Sabbath, and will also show that the idea of a Sunday "Christian Sabbath" is also unscriptural. As discussed above, there is one time the Sabbath is mentioned after Paul began to focus on the Gentiles:

Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day -- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. (Colossians 2:16, 17)

The Jewish Sabbath was abolished at the cross where Christ "... wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us." (Colossians 2:14)

This idea is repeated more than once in the New Testament:

One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God. (Romans 14:5–6a)

But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? You observe days and months and seasons and years. (Galatians 4:9–10)

But some claim that a mandate by Constantine in A.D. 321 "changed" the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. On what day did the early church meet for worship? Scripture never mentions any Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings by believers for fellowship or worship. However, there are clear passages that mention the first day of the week. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that "... on the first day of the week the disciples came together to break bread." In 1 Corinthians 16:2 Paul urges the Corinthian believers " ... on the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper." Since Paul designates this offering as "service" in 2 Corinthians 9:12, this collection must have been linked with the Sunday worship service of the Christian assembly. Historically Sunday, not Saturday, was the normal meeting day for Christians in the church, and its practice dates back to the first century.

Again, the doctrine of some denominations to the contrary, the Sabbath was given to Israel, not the church. The Sabbath is still Saturday, not Sunday, and has never been changed. But the Sabbath is part of the Old Testament Law, and Christians are free from the bondage of the Law. (Galatians 4:1-26; Romans 6:14) Sabbath keeping is not required of the Christian -- be it Saturday or Sunday. The first day of the week, Sunday, the Lord's Day (Revelation 1:10) celebrates the New Creation, with Christ as our resurrected Head. We are not obligated to follow the Mosaic Sabbath -- resting, but are now free to follow the risen Christ -- serving. The Apostle Paul said that each individual Christian should decide whether to observe a Sabbath rest, as stated in Romans 14:5 above. We are to worship God every day, not just on Saturday or Sunday.

k4c
28th April 2008, 03:28 PM
Firstly, there is no passage in the Bible that defines the Sabbath as being Saturday, for either Israel or the church. Sabbath simply means "a weekly rest," or simply "rest."

Second and more importantly, while it is often claimed that "God instituted the Sabbath in Eden" because of the connection between the Sabbath and creation in Exodus 20:11, that simply is not true. Although God's rest on the seventh day as noted in Genesis 2:3 did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no biblical record of the Sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. Not one Scriptural passage gives indication of Sabbath-keeping being practiced from Adam to Moses. In fact, worship was a daily matter, whether formal or informal, and any blessing was usually met with some form of worship and offering, be it large or small.

On the other hand, the Word of God makes it quite clear that Sabbath observance was a special sign between God and Israel and no one else:

Moses went up to God, and theLORD called to him from the mountain, saying, "Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob and tell the sons of Israel: 'You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings, and brought you to Myself. Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine ...' " (Exodus 19:3–5).

" `So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.' It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed." (Exodus 31:16–17).

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the ten commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel:

" `You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out of there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to observe the sabbath day.' " (Deuteronomy 5:15).

Notice the word "therefore." It is the simple Hebrew word 'al meaning "because of" or "on account of." The reason for the Sabbath was to remember the captivity and deliverance from Egypt. It was not God's intent in giving the Sabbath to Israel that they would remember creation, but that they would remember their Egyptian slavery and the Lord's deliverance. Note the requirements for Sabbath-keeping: A person placed under that Sabbath law could not leave his home on the Sabbath (Exodus 16:29), he could not build a fire (Exodus 35:3), and he could not cause anyone else to work (Deuteronomy 5:14). Those are pictures of captivity and enslavement, not worship, though the worship came from God's grace in choosing Israel, a nation of slaves, to be made a great and powerful nation evidencing His power and might. A person breaking the Sabbath law was to be put to death. (Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32–35) Obviously forgetting who you were because of God made you unworthy to celebrate Him by claiming to be His and showing that you were not.

An examination of New Testament passages shows us four important points:

1) Whenever Christ appears in His resurrected form and the day is mentioned, it is always the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1, 9, 10; Mark 16:9; Luke 24:1, 13, 15; John 20:19, 26).

2) The only time the Sabbath is mentioned from Acts through Revelation it is for evangelistic purposes to the Jews and the setting is usually in a synagogue (Acts chapters 13–18). Paul wrote, " ... to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews ... " (1 Corinthians 9:20) Paul did not go to the synagogue to fellowship with and edify the saints, but to convict and save the lost.

3) Once Paul states " ... from now on I will go to the Gentiles ... " (Acts 18:6), the Sabbath is never again mentioned.

4) Instead of suggesting adherence to the Sabbath day, the remainder of the New Testament implies the opposite (including the one exception to point 3 above, found in Colossians 2:16).

Looking more closely at point 4 above will reveal that there is no obligation for the New Testament believer to keep the Sabbath, and will also show that the idea of a Sunday "Christian Sabbath" is also unscriptural. As discussed above, there is one time the Sabbath is mentioned after Paul began to focus on the Gentiles:

Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day -- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. (Colossians 2:16, 17)

The Jewish Sabbath was abolished at the cross where Christ "... wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us." (Colossians 2:14)

This idea is repeated more than once in the New Testament:

One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God. (Romans 14:5–6a)

But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? You observe days and months and seasons and years. (Galatians 4:9–10)

But some claim that a mandate by Constantine in A.D. 321 "changed" the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. On what day did the early church meet for worship? Scripture never mentions any Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings by believers for fellowship or worship. However, there are clear passages that mention the first day of the week. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that "... on the first day of the week the disciples came together to break bread." In 1 Corinthians 16:2 Paul urges the Corinthian believers " ... on the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper." Since Paul designates this offering as "service" in 2 Corinthians 9:12, this collection must have been linked with the Sunday worship service of the Christian assembly. Historically Sunday, not Saturday, was the normal meeting day for Christians in the church, and its practice dates back to the first century.

Again, the doctrine of some denominations to the contrary, the Sabbath was given to Israel, not the church. The Sabbath is still Saturday, not Sunday, and has never been changed. But the Sabbath is part of the Old Testament Law, and Christians are free from the bondage of the Law. (Galatians 4:1-26; Romans 6:14) Sabbath keeping is not required of the Christian -- be it Saturday or Sunday. The first day of the week, Sunday, the Lord's Day (Revelation 1:10) celebrates the New Creation, with Christ as our resurrected Head. We are not obligated to follow the Mosaic Sabbath -- resting, but are now free to follow the risen Christ -- serving. The Apostle Paul said that each individual Christian should decide whether to observe a Sabbath rest, as stated in Romans 14:5 above. We are to worship God every day, not just on Saturday or Sunday.

The seventh day is Saturday, which is also the Sabbath. Sunday is the first day, which followed the Sabbath.

Matthew 28:1 Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.

James tells us that if we break one of the commandments, we have broken them all. They are a unit of ten, which includes the fourth commandment.

James 2:10-11 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. For He who said, "Do not commit adultery,'' also said, "Do not murder.'' Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

The Sabbath will also be kept in the new heaven and earth.

Isaiah 66:22-23 "For as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make shall remain before Me,'' says the Lord, "So shall your descendants and your name remain. And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh shall come to worship before Me,'' says the Lord.

What are your thoughts?

PaladinGirl
28th April 2008, 03:59 PM
Firstly, there is no passage in the Bible that defines the Sabbath as being Saturday, for either Israel or the church. Sabbath simply means "a weekly rest," or simply "rest."

Second and more importantly, while it is often claimed that "God instituted the Sabbath in Eden" because of the connection between the Sabbath and creation in Exodus 20:11, that simply is not true. Although God's rest on the seventh day as noted in Genesis 2:3 did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no biblical record of the Sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. Not one Scriptural passage gives indication of Sabbath-keeping being practiced from Adam to Moses. In fact, worship was a daily matter, whether formal or informal, and any blessing was usually met with some form of worship and offering, be it large or small.

On the other hand, the Word of God makes it quite clear that Sabbath observance was a special sign between God and Israel and no one else:

Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain, saying, "Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob and tell the sons of Israel: 'You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings, and brought you to Myself. Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine ...' " (Exodus 19:3–5).

" `So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.' It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed." (Exodus 31:16–17).

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the ten commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel:

" `You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out of there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to observe the sabbath day.' " (Deuteronomy 5:15).

Notice the word "therefore." It is the simple Hebrew word 'al meaning "because of" or "on account of." The reason for the Sabbath was to remember the captivity and deliverance from Egypt. It was not God's intent in giving the Sabbath to Israel that they would remember creation, but that they would remember their Egyptian slavery and the Lord's deliverance. Note the requirements for Sabbath-keeping: A person placed under that Sabbath law could not leave his home on the Sabbath (Exodus 16:29), he could not build a fire (Exodus 35:3), and he could not cause anyone else to work (Deuteronomy 5:14). Those are pictures of captivity and enslavement, not worship, though the worship came from God's grace in choosing Israel, a nation of slaves, to be made a great and powerful nation evidencing His power and might. A person breaking the Sabbath law was to be put to death. (Exodus 31:15; Numbers 15:32–35) Obviously forgetting who you were because of God made you unworthy to celebrate Him by claiming to be His and showing that you were not.

An examination of New Testament passages shows us four important points:

1) Whenever Christ appears in His resurrected form and the day is mentioned, it is always the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1, 9, 10; Mark 16:9; Luke 24:1, 13, 15; John 20:19, 26).

2) The only time the Sabbath is mentioned from Acts through Revelation it is for evangelistic purposes to the Jews and the setting is usually in a synagogue (Acts chapters 13–18). Paul wrote, " ... to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews ... " (1 Corinthians 9:20) Paul did not go to the synagogue to fellowship with and edify the saints, but to convict and save the lost.

3) Once Paul states " ... from now on I will go to the Gentiles ... " (Acts 18:6), the Sabbath is never again mentioned.

4) Instead of suggesting adherence to the Sabbath day, the remainder of the New Testament implies the opposite (including the one exception to point 3 above, found in Colossians 2:16).

Looking more closely at point 4 above will reveal that there is no obligation for the New Testament believer to keep the Sabbath, and will also show that the idea of a Sunday "Christian Sabbath" is also unscriptural. As discussed above, there is one time the Sabbath is mentioned after Paul began to focus on the Gentiles:

Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day -- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. (Colossians 2:16, 17)

The Jewish Sabbath was abolished at the cross where Christ "... wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us." (Colossians 2:14)

This idea is repeated more than once in the New Testament:

One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God. (Romans 14:5–6a)

But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? You observe days and months and seasons and years. (Galatians 4:9–10)

But some claim that a mandate by Constantine in A.D. 321 "changed" the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. On what day did the early church meet for worship? Scripture never mentions any Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings by believers for fellowship or worship. However, there are clear passages that mention the first day of the week. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that "... on the first day of the week the disciples came together to break bread." In 1 Corinthians 16:2 Paul urges the Corinthian believers " ... on the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper." Since Paul designates this offering as "service" in 2 Corinthians 9:12, this collection must have been linked with the Sunday worship service of the Christian assembly. Historically Sunday, not Saturday, was the normal meeting day for Christians in the church, and its practice dates back to the first century.

Again, the doctrine of some denominations to the contrary, the Sabbath was given to Israel, not the church. The Sabbath is still Saturday, not Sunday, and has never been changed. But the Sabbath is part of the Old Testament Law, and Christians are free from the bondage of the Law. (Galatians 4:1-26; Romans 6:14) Sabbath keeping is not required of the Christian -- be it Saturday or Sunday. The first day of the week, Sunday, the Lord's Day (Revelation 1:10) celebrates the New Creation, with Christ as our resurrected Head. We are not obligated to follow the Mosaic Sabbath -- resting, but are now free to follow the risen Christ -- serving. The Apostle Paul said that each individual Christian should decide whether to observe a Sabbath rest, as stated in Romans 14:5 above. We are to worship God every day, not just on Saturday or Sunday.
Exactly and besides that, there is a scripture in the Bible that is relevant to this as well:

Col 2:16 KJV Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 KJV Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

If interpreted correctly, this verse would basically say that it doesn't matter what day of the week we worship on so long as we worship on one day of the week. I personally prefer to worship on Sunday because that is what the early church did.

IisJustMe
28th April 2008, 05:45 PM
The seventh day is Saturday, which is also the Sabbath. Sunday is the first day, which followed the Sabbath."Saturday" is an invention of man, not God. Again, "Sabbath" simply means "rest" and generally on a weekly basis. ... What are your thoughts?That you didn't deal with the fact that the Sabbath and the commandments were given to Israel, as I elaborately pointed out. With detail. :doh:

Oh, and that your understanding of Isaiah 66:22, 23 is wrong. Isaiah was a prophet to Israel. He's not going to say "Lord's Day" to mean a weekly day of worship to a nation that understands sabbath. Also, v. 23 says that "all mankind will come to bow down before Me." Not all will be Jews. Not all, therefore, will be welcome at what you think is a Jewish Sabbath. The truth is, we will be in God's very presence every single minutes of every day, and will praise Him constantly. This is not sabbath as the Jews understand it, but it is the rest Jesus promised us in Matthew 11:28. Again, sabbath means "rest."

Moriah_Conquering_Wind
29th April 2008, 01:54 AM
The seventh day is Saturday, which is also the Sabbath. Sunday is the first day, which followed the Sabbath.

Matthew 28:1 Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.

James tells us that if we break one of the commandments, we have broken them all. They are a unit of ten, which includes the fourth commandment.

James 2:10-11 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. For He who said, "Do not commit adultery,'' also said, "Do not murder.'' Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

The Sabbath will also be kept in the new heaven and earth.

Isaiah 66:22-23 "For as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make shall remain before Me,'' says the Lord, "So shall your descendants and your name remain. And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh shall come to worship before Me,'' says the Lord.

What are your thoughts?

You need to read more Bible and less Ellen G. White?
Read scripture in context, not proof texts yanked out of their setting and strung like charms on a bracelet to establish prefabricated doctrinal positions which form part of a specific sectarian meta-narrative.

Artificial Intelligence
29th April 2008, 02:40 AM
Exactly and besides that, there is a scripture in the Bible that is relevant to this as well:

Col 2:16 KJV Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 KJV Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

If interpreted correctly, this verse would basically say that it doesn't matter what day of the week we worship on so long as we worship on one day of the week. I personally prefer to worship on Sunday because that is what the early church did.Uh-huh… who? The second international Wiccan Church of the harvest moon? Is that the “we” you are referring to? :doh:

TankGirl
29th April 2008, 07:46 AM
Uh-huh… who? The second international Wiccan Church of the harvest moon? Is that the “we” you are referring to? :doh:

The icons change roughly three times a day...at the time of posting, it probably said RCC, or somesuch... Best to ignore...

k4c
29th April 2008, 08:36 AM
You need to read more Bible and less Ellen G. White?
Read scripture in context, not proof texts yanked out of their setting and strung like charms on a bracelet to establish prefabricated doctrinal positions which form part of a specific sectarian meta-narrative.

I don't read EGW...

rmw8855
30th April 2008, 06:54 PM
Thread moved to the ND Debate subforum

Frisbee
1st May 2008, 01:15 AM
Leviticus 23 addresses times and seasons

1. Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath: Mar 3:27-28
2. Christ became the springs feasts: Death, burial, resurrection, Pentecost
3. We wait for the fulfillment of the fall feasts in Christ (literally and bodily)

Those things are the shadow of Jesus Christ. It is profitable to know these things, to honor them in light of Jesus Christ, but not to keep them as if you were a Jew keeping the law. I suggest you read the Book of Galatians (all of it) and Acts (all of it) for the context for Galatians.

Besides, the sabbath begins on Friday evening at Sundown and lasts until Saturday evening at sundown. It begins with a family where you honor God, and I think that in and of itself is a good thing that families should do 7 days a week. Maybe even invite a Messianic Jew over to lead you in a Seder so that you understand how it is all just a reflection of Christ. But don't chain yourself to the law. Again, read the entire books Acts and Galatians, and read it with the understanding that Paul was trying to impress on the churches of Galatia.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind
1st May 2008, 03:38 AM
I don't read EGW...
Humans don't eat grass, either, unless you want to count that which makes up the flesh of a cow.