Quest for the Holy Grail

[Rick of Wessex]

Hello everyone! :wave:

Our Roman Catholic brethren are talking bout pooling their blessings to acquire the Holy Grail from the Special Items sections in the Armor and then giving it to one of their knights for keeping.

Well, I say we could do the same. ;) What to you think?
Do we have any Knights here at TAW?

PS: I just hope our neighbors don't be upset at my suggestion.

Edit: anyway, I just saw the price of the Grail - 7,000,000 blessings! :eek: Perhaps we should can this whole idea... I'll be happy if I ever get a Dragonslayer (St. Georges Sword).

In XC,
Rick

[Reader Nilus]

Why give it to a knight? I think we here should get it, as the real Grail is in Orthodox hands.
Jeff the Finn

[Rick of Wessex]

Hi, Jeff. :wave:

Why give it to a knight?

To keep it in line with the Arthurian Legends of the Grail - only a knight with a pure heart could obtain the Grail. ;)

[Reader Nilus]

The real Grail is kept in a Church in Ethiopia and I don't think knights have anything to do with it.
Jeff the Finn

[Rick of Wessex]

Jeff,

What is supposedly kept in a church in the Ethiopian city of Axum is the Ark of the Covenant.

Take a look at these great articles:
http://www.oneworldmagazine.org/focus/etiopia/ark.html

http://goafrica.about.com/cs/adventures/a/lost_ark_axum.htm

According to Arthurian Myths, the Grail was taken from Jerusalem to Great-Britain by St. Joseph of Arimathea.

http://www.the-spa.com/kirk.burkins/GRAIL.htm

In XC,
Rick

[Eusebios]

All this Grail talk reminds me of Monty Python! My best friend of 15 years was for most of that time, a Youth Pastor in the Protestant world. (now my Orthodox godson and internet radio partner in crime!) He would regularly use the "Holy Grail" movie as ann object lesson for older teens. Why? To show them the absurdity of seeking after a cup instaed of seeking after Christ Himself.I don't know if John Clease and the rest of the whacky crew ever gave this any thought or not, but to me, it was a brilliant if slightly unorthodox method for conveying a deep truth.
As far as our obtaining the Grail, why not, sounds like fun.:)
His not-so-knightly servant,
Eusebios.
:bow:

[Grand_Duchess-Elizaveta]

Hi, Jeff. :wave:



To keep it in line with the Arthurian Legends of the Grail - only a knight with a pure heart could obtain the Grail. ;)
Ah, a direct quote from "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade." Good movie!:clap:

[Patristic]

Why don't they have an ark of the covenant as an object you can obtain? I would want one of those!

[Rick of Wessex]

The special items store should also have the "Holy Grenade of Antioch". ;)

Neeeeeeee... Neeeeeee...

Rick

[AdJesumPerMariam]

If anyone would like to contribute to OBOB, we will let you ;) . Just go to http://www.christianforums.com/t715655. Or, if you would like to participate in the lottery, http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=8396557#post8396557

Thanx!!

love-n-Blessings
dee

[Photini]

Why give it to a knight? I think we here should get it, as the real Grail is in Orthodox hands.
Jeff the Finn
Is it? I didn't know that. I have noticed, however, that about EVERY landmark precious to Christianity has an Orthodox Church on it. :) (i.e. the Holy Sepulchre, the Cave of the Nativity, the Grotto of the Revelation, the Upper Room, etc, etc, etc....) :priest:

[OrthodoxTexan]

Forget the Grail, we need an icon of the Mother of God painted by St. Luke.

[Greeter]

PS: I just hope our neighbors don't be upset at my suggestion.Not at all. I think it is neat that you all are doing it and quite appropriate. :)

[gorion]

"I don't think he'll be very keen, You see we've already got one" "And its very nice"

[marc37]

what if for the quest we become one "only then would there be an army of knights big and strong enough for such a heavy ''crusade''{get my hinting}
what sayed thou my brethren!!!!!!!!!!

[marc37]

I Cant Hear You!!!!!!

[Reader Nilus]

St Nilus of Sora whom I am named after felt that the Eucharist from a plain wooden cup was better than a fancy gold one. So I see no need to go questing after the Holy Grail, it is just a cup.

Jeff the Finn

[marc37]

no this grail is just a picture its about brotherhood

[The Prokeimenon!]

I have noticed, however, that about EVERY landmark precious to Christianity has an Orthodox Church on it. (i.e. the Holy Sepulchre, the Cave of the Nativity, the Grotto of the Revelation, the Upper Room, etc, etc, etc....)


We have our Holy Father and Mother Sts Constantine and Helen to thank for a lot of that. :clap:

Holy Sts Constantine and Helen, pray for us! :prayer:

Moses

[Photini]

I've been noticing the reactions over this "CF grail" lately. There's even talk in OBOB of charging folks 50 blessings to come to their Chapel to "view" it. It's a little computer image. I don't get it.

Can't someone here format one for TAW? Is that alot of trouble? Maybe we could all have it in our sigs or something. The CF grail is kind of ugly. Why would anyone want to "pay" 7 MILLION blessings?

[Reader Nilus]

Photini, it seems that cyberland is becoming like the real world to the extent that if there is something, we just got to have it, it is called the passion GREED.
Jeff the Finn

[Plan 9]

I've been noticing the reactions over this "CF grail" lately. There's even talk in OBOB of charging folks 50 blessings to come to their Chapel to "view" it. It's a little computer image. I don't get it.

Charging to view it? Really?

Can't someone here format one for TAW? Is that alot of trouble? Maybe we could all have it in our sigs or something. The CF grail is kind of ugly. Why would anyone want to "pay" 7 MILLION blessings?

Wowser, Photini! If you did that, we could see yours for free! :cool:

[Photini]

Charging to view it? Really?



Wowser, Photini! If you did that, we could see yours for free! :cool:
Yeah...I hope that the person who said it wasn't serious about charging for it. That's kind of crazy if you ask me.

I wish I knew how to do such a thing. I only know how to copy other people's stuff. :sorry: I'll try some experimenting though.

[Reader Nilus]

http://s88610834.onlinehome.us/cfchalice.GIF

How is that?
Jeff the Finn

[Photini]

http://s88610834.onlinehome.us/cfchalice.GIF

How is that?
Jeff the Finn
Awesome! Is there a way to enlarge it a little bit?

[Rick of Wessex]

Jeff,

It's beautiful!! :clap: Congratulations.

We then could add it to our sigs.

In XC,
Rick

[Reader Nilus]

How big do you want it, that is the same height as the 7000000 grail, which is 15 pixels in height. The officer icon on this post is about 35 pixels high. I can make it bigger that is not a problem, I do not think I can get much smaller though.
Jeff the Finn

[Photini]

I'd say about the same as the Officer icon...or a smidgen larger, but not much.

[Greeter]

Photini, it seems that cyberland is becoming like the real world to the extent that if there is something, we just got to have it, it is called the passion GREED.
Jeff the FinnSince I am the one who came up with the suggestion I feel I should explain my reasoning behind it. It took me some time before I purchased anything of the new items we now have access to. The only item I purchased was the Holy Rosary since it is something that means a lot to me. The other two items I have were gifts to me. In looking over the items I came across the Holy Grail. Being a huge fan of Arthurian Legend and having a love for tales involving knights and quests, it was natural for me to link that to my desire for a way to help bring my fellow brothers and sisters in OBOB closer together. I also saw with it a way to honor the Blessed Mother. Thus the Quest came into being for OBOB. I hope that explains it for everyone. Once we have gained it we are going to create a Blessed Mother account and have the Grail on display there in honor to her. Until we reach that point I thought it would be both honoring to the Blessed Mother, and a nice change of pace (especially since I am a fan of Joan of Arc) to have one of our Lady Knights be the keeper of the blessings and the purchaser of the Grail.

[jameseb]

If anyone would like to contribute to OBOB, we will let you ;) . Just go to http://www.christianforums.com/t715655. Or, if you would like to participate in the lottery, http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=8396557#post8396557

Thanx!!

love-n-Blessings
dee


Okay! That does it for me! :P When an OBOB member solicits me for donations so they can have the Grail, I'm motivated to get it for ourselves! ;)

I'm in!

What now? :P

[Photini]

Greeter...no need to explain. I was just amazed at some of the reaction I'm seeing.

[Reader Nilus]

I'd say about the same as the Officer icon...or a smidgen larger, but not much.Here is the same icon at 35 pixels in height:http://s88610834.onlinehome.us/cfchalice2.GIF
Jeff the Finn

[Greeter]

I've been noticing the reactions over this "CF grail" lately. There's even talk in OBOB of charging folks 50 blessings to come to their Chapel to "view" it. It's a little computer image. I don't get it.
I don't think it is ever a good idea to take what one person says as being representative of the entire group unless the person doing the talking is the leader of that group. If you look at my posts on the subject you will notice that I am asking others for their opinions through out the Quest. There is very little that is official or written in stone. The only thing that we know is that we will create a Blessed Mother account for the Grail to give honor to the Blessed Mother should we actually acquire the Grail.

[Photini]

Okay! That does it for me! :P When an OBOB member solicits me for donations so they can have the Grail, I'm motivated to get it for ourselves! ;)

I'm in!

What now? :PLoL!! Jeff is working on making one of our own!

[Greeter]

Greeter...no need to explain. I was just amazed at some of the reaction I'm seeing.
You are not the only one. I would wear the :doh: smilie out if I was to use it every time I felt like it.

[Photini]

I don't think it is ever a good idea to take what one person says as being representative of the entire group unless the person doing the talking is the leader of that group. If you look at my posts on the subject you will notice that I am asking others for their opinions through out the Quest. There is very little that is official or written in stone. The only thing that we know is that we will create a Blessed Mother account for the Grail to give honor to the Blessed Mother should we actually acquire the Grail.
That's great Greeter.

[jameseb]

LoL!! Jeff is working on making one of our own!



Well, I suppose that'll work, though its not the CF Grail which I suddenly want us to have now. ;)

[Photini]

Here is the same icon at 35 pixels in height:http://s88610834.onlinehome.us/cfchalice2.GIF
Jeff the Finn
That's perfect!

[Photini]

Well, I suppose that'll work, though its not the CF Grail which I suddenly want us to have now. ;)
I did too, believe me.

[Greeter]

Well, I suppose that'll work, though its not the CF Grail which I suddenly want us to have now. ;)Well it isn't too late for you all to go for it. We haven't even hit 200k yet so there is plenty of time for you to catch up. Besides, I find it quite appropriate for you all to be after it as well and I was hoping for some friendly rivalry as that would help keep the Quest exciting and motivated. :)

[jameseb]

Well it isn't too late for you all to go for it. We haven't even hit 200k yet so there is plenty of time for you to catch up. Besides, I find it quite appropriate for you all to be after it as well and I was hoping for some friendly rivalry as that would help keep the Quest exciting and motivated. :)


*just returns from a secret scouting trip to OBOB lands where he engaged in espionage to find their total blessings thus far....*


:eek: :sigh: All that hard work, and here you go volunteering the number.... ;) :P


Well, I was about to suggest to my brothers and sisters that we are vastly outnumbered... not only on the sizeable head start you all have, but that you guys and gals also have the numbers. We're slightly outgunned. :(

[Rick of Wessex]

Folks,

Now that we have a golden grail (thanks again, Jeff), we could found a holy knightly order to keep it.

Knights of St. George or St. Theodore Stratelates. ;)
What do you think?

[Rick of Wessex]

Sir James,

Well, I was about to suggest to my brothers and sisters that we are vastly outnumbered... not only on the sizeable head start you all have, but that you guys and gals also have the numbers. We're slightly outgunned. :(

Do not despair! The Quest is not over yet!!

Sir Richard ;)

[Greeter]

Well, I was about to suggest to my brothers and sisters that we are vastly outnumbered... not only on the sizeable head start you all have, but that you guys and gals also have the numbers. We're slightly outgunned. :(
The Anglicans graciously offered to join us in the Quest but we declined as we are trying to mend broken fences along our own lines. I am sure they would accept the Orthodox as allies in the Quest. I don't know if it would even up the numbers but it should help.

[jameseb]

Sir James,



Do not despair! The Quest is not over yet!!

Sir Richard ;)



*saddles up on his horse, still ready to ride for their Quest*

:)

[jameseb]

The Anglicans graciously offered to join us in the Quest but we declined as we are trying to mend broken fences along our own lines. I am sure they would accept the Orthodox as allies in the Quest. I don't know if it would even up the numbers but it should help.



That's an idea the members here might consider. Thank you for the tip. :)

[Greeter]

That's an idea the members here might consider. Thank you for the tip. :)
Anytime. :)

[Reader Nilus]

Folks,

Now that we have a golden grail (thanks again, Jeff), we could found a holy knightly order to keep it.

Knights of St. George or St. Theodore Stratelates. ;)
What do you think?It should be the knights of St Aleksandr Nevsky.
Jeff the Finn

[jameseb]

It should be the knights of St Aleksandr Nevsky.
Jeff the Finn


Ah, the man that vanquished the Teutonic knight invaders.

On a sidenote, Prokofiev composed some incredible scores for that old, B&W Russian movie entitled 'Alexander Nevsky.'

[Oblio]

Not to disrupt this virtual questing but I was-a-wondering: Is there an actual Holy Grail relic IRL ?

[Plan 9]

The Anglicans graciously offered to join us in the Quest but we declined as we are trying to mend broken fences along our own lines. I am sure they would accept the Orthodox as allies in the Quest. I don't know if it would even up the numbers but it should help.

Greeter, this is not what happened, and you can go to the Anglican's Grail thread and read it for yourself. A Catholic came to the Anglicans and invited them to join your Quest. Then the Anglicans responded and were ungraciously rejected by all but one Catholic, whose opinion was completely ignored.
In attempting to "mend your own fences", only damage to your neighbors has resulted, perhaps beyond repair, considering the horrifying amount of prior damage done in previous threads, where Catholics set upon non-Catholics like Pit Bulls for God, as though they constituted a serious threat to the entire Catholic church, when all they wanted to be was your friends.
Then a fight started over a joke made in the AF about this rivalry, which was no different than the jokes which which you have made about them. There was a genuine attempt to heal that smaller breech, which may even have worked, but it doesn't change the fact that you had your friendly rivalry, you blew it, and you blew it badly.
However well-intentioned InnerPhyre's idea was, it's done nothing but harm, to date, Greeter, and if you win it, contrition will need to be offered up along with it, in my opinion.

My Orthodox friends, please think carefully before you involve yourself with this: the Anglicans wanted that friendly rivalry, but happened was no fun.
We turn everything into a fight here, it's turned CF into a nightmare for me, and now that the pet daycare option is functioning, and I'm going to have to take some time off from the travesty of Christian fellowship which exists here right now.
Please don't involve yourself in anything which is likely to harm your Christian inner peace and walk, as mine has been.
I don't want to discourage you from getting involved, if that's what you want, and the Anglicans would happily share the Grail with you. Just please just count the cost first. We don't need any more casualties.
Greeter wants some fences mended, and he wants you to help him, but some of the fences we have around here need to be lowered, not repaired; good fences don't make good neighbors:

"Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence."

(Robert Frost, Mending Wall)

[Reader Nilus]

Not to disrupt this virtual questing but I was-a-wondering: Is there an actual Holy Grail relic IRL ?I do not know if it exists, but Charles Williams wrote a great novel about it, War in Heaven.
Jeff the Finn

[Plan 9]

I do not know if it exists, but Charles Williams wrote a great novel about it, War in Heaven.
Jeff the Finn

If it exists, its location is unknown, and yes, that's a wonderful novel, Jeff. :)

[Eusebios]

It seems tome that this whole thing is getting seriously whacked out.It is once again bringing up "Monty Python" like imagery, with grown men (and women) making horses-asses out of themselves over a cup when it is Christ himself and his precious Body and Blood with which we should really concern ourselves.
His unworthy servant,
Eusebios.

[Plan 9]

It seems tome that this whole thing is getting seriously whacked out.It is once again bringing up "Monty Python" like imagery, with grown men (and women) making horses-asses out of themselves over a cup when it is Christ himself and his precious Body and Blood with which we should really concern ourselves.
His unworthy servant,
Eusebios.

That's a fine summation of what the Grail symbolizes, Eusebios. I think Jeff's grail is quite lovely, and you could all don it to remind you (and us) of Christ's sacrifice, which is a definite plus. :)
Thus sayeth this horse's @ss. ;)

[Photini]

Thank you Planny for your post. I've observed what's been happening. It's not something I feel comfortable getting involved with, precisely for the reasons you mentioned above.

Besides, I like Jeff's grail.

Now where's the reliquary? (Did I spell it right?)

[jameseb]

Eusebios[/B]]It seems tome that this whole thing is getting seriously whacked out.It is once again bringing up "Monty Python" like imagery, with grown men (and women) making horses-asses out of themselves over a cup when it is Christ himself and his precious Body and Blood with which we should really concern ourselves.
His unworthy servant,
Eusebios.


You've got a very good point, Eusebios. I did enjoy the idea of a lil' fun inter-faith sport, but it is important that we do not forget what is most precious to us and our beliefs.