Contradiction of one evil, one maybe evil ?

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I have no idea where to post this other than here,
and it is mostly for prayers and not really for any other purpose that I can think of.

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It is very unusual as you shall see, and possibly very argumentative or controversial,
which is mute since this is for prayer and not for argument nor for controversy.
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Others outside will take great controversy with the very thought that
the government they trust could be so wrong, but that's for them to think for themselves and not for argument here, if possible.
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to the point, eh?
the lawyers who are representing the children kdnapped from the polygamy 'group' in texas

noted on tv today that all the children are very beautiful and very healthy !
(as I told those who would listen in person in tulsa a day or two ago)
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the women also, by the way APPEAR A LOT HEALTHIER than the residents of oklahoma. that I've seen for a few decades.
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(and by the way, more morally correct than the majority of the population also) (I know, controversial, but just being observant)

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That summing up,
the prayer is that the children will be returned to their rightful parents.
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and that the agencies that participate in breaking up families for their own usually hidden interests and agenda (like the money that they never discuss but that the plant signed into law - 15000 plus per child removed REGARDLESS OF ANY EVIDENCE OF HARM )
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perhaps prayer that the true and real MOTIVES of the agencies be exposed
like herod's was without prejudice in Scripture.
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Again, I know that those who trust their gov and think that their gov and agencies really do what they say
won't think praying is right,
but I still think it is the most important.
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[SGM4HIM]

I pray for the safety of the children involved and the truth is revealed regarding the allegations.

I don't feel we know enough about the allegations to question the governments motives and I am not persuaded by lawyers statements or the mothers on t.v.

There are checks and balances and a separate court system is involved in this whole process.

No, I'm not a Child Protection investigator, but I was one for 7 yrs and could tell you some stories................The public only hears about cases that go to court involving folks are willing to give court testimony

It may take some time for the truth to be revealed; let's not pass judgment to quickly.

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Too quickly ?gooogle real quick and read real slow:http://www.wkbw.com/younews/14472702.html (http://www.wkbw.com/younews/14472702.html?img=1&mg=t)
and SIMPLY GOOOOGLE cps truth and see their own record !!!
http://www.google.com/search?q=cps+truth&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

CPS is a facade to

'protect', functions to human traffick for federal funds


The truth is that the government agency, CPS, which is to protect children, fails to do so. The tendency of CPS is to ignore the children who really are in danger, and removed children from safe homes to place them into danger. Either way, the involvement of CPS places children into danger, as these state workers do not know the difference of safety vs. danger, truth vs. fiction, or how to investigate vs. bogus documentation.

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Does the gov have a GOOD RECORD ? NO !
at anything good ? NO!
anything at all ? NO!
so why think they've all ov a sudden become good at something ????

like I stated at first,
if you trust gov , you're outside.

these requests are not for those outside.
it is for those inside to pray.
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desperately
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children everywhere are threatened,
families everywhere are broken by gov
just like in germ., EXACTLY LIKE GERM in WWII times...

PLEASE don't talk about it here.
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PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY PRAY
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that you don't become prey, or your children...

[Steve Petersen]

I hear the sounds of black helicopters!

[SGM4HIM]

yeshuaslavejeff,

Check out CNN tonight or Fox.

A local judge, not CPS, kept the kids in custody. Believe me, it's very hard to get a conspiracy going between law enforcement, states attorney , CPS, Guardian Ad Litems and judges. There are too many people with different backgrounds, and values involved.

Listen to the females that left the "Family"years ago: After years of counseling they're still suffering.

Let's pray for the prey - for their healing.

[Kris10leigh]

this is for prayer and not for argument nor for controversy.
I'm going to hold you to this, if you don't mind. ;) I'd like to comment on some of what you've said as a discussion, not a debate.

...I noted on tv today that all the children are very beautiful and very healthy !


the women also, by the way APPEAR A LOT HEALTHIER than the residents of oklahoma. that I've seen for a few decades.
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(and by the way, more morally correct than the majority of the population also) (I know, controversial, but just being observant)

I have made the same observation. I'm not sure where your observations are leading you, but here is what I think. Not ALL of their beliefs are in question. I think perhaps some of their lifestyle is healthy and commendable. They are living on a self-sufficient ranch with food that is probably 100% organic. I'm not certain about this, but they seem to be a natural farming community, probably without pesticides and certainly most of their food does not contain corn-syrup as our does. They probably walk a whole lot more than we do and the children are out playing rather than sitting in front of the television. So from that stand point, I think they have something on the rest of the world.

They are all "beautiful" (by some standards) because of the inbreeding. I'm not sure that's such a good thing. Considering they're all blond haired and blue-eyed leads me down yet another road. :(
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That summing up,
the prayer is that the children will be returned to their rightful parents.

Personally, I have been praying that what is best for the children will prevail. I don't know what that is, but I know my prayers are being heard by the One who does. My heart breaks that they have been ripped away from their parents, but I can't condone the atrocities they are being brain washed with.
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and that the agencies that participate in breaking up families for their own usually hidden interests and agenda (like the money that they never discuss but that the plant signed into law - 15000 plus per child removed REGARDLESS OF ANY EVIDENCE OF HARM ) I don't want to go there. ;)

Please understand as this post continues that you've hit on a subject that has some pretty passionate views surrounding it.