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Wags
17th April 2008, 12:06 AM
Some of you might find this guide to Passover (http://jvmi.convio.net/site/PageNavigator/Passover_feature_contents) from Jewish Voice Ministries instructive. If nothing else the music is good. :)

Lulav
17th April 2008, 01:17 AM
Yes, I think for some here, this may be a good read

Should Non-Jewish Believers Celebrate (http://jvmi.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=Should_NonJewish_Believers_Celebrate_the_Passover)
the Passover? (http://jvmi.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=Should_NonJewish_Believers_Celebrate_the_Passover)
(http://jvmi.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=Should_NonJewish_Believers_Celebrate_the_Passover)

Talmidah
17th April 2008, 01:21 AM
So when a Christian or Messianic non-Jew celebrates passover, it has nothing to do with being taken out of Egypt? Its like a totally different holiday?

I ask because of this part of the linked article:

Should Christians celebrate Passover? When we remain faithful to the Bible, the answer is clear and unequivocal: “Because Christ our Passover has been sacrificed for us; therefore, let us observe the festival [Passover and Unleavened Bread] ... with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth” (1 Cor. 5:7-8). This directive is from a Christian apostle who even then was still a Jewish rabbi, and it was given to Gentiles. What could possibly be more apparent?

The next question is, How should Christians observe the Passover? Again, the Bible gives a clear answer. What better example could we have than that of our Lord Jesus Himself? According to the Gospels, He celebrated the Passover with His Disciples in the traditional Seder that the sages had prescribed for His time. The core of the modern Seder predates the time of Yeshua and was the order which He employed in the Last Supper. Christians are free to imitate Jesus’ way of life at any time; however, they are bound to no specific ritual for their salvation. Freedom in the Messiah permits great flexibility of practice.

Should any remain confused, Paul gives the liturgical order for recognizing Yeshua’s sacrificial death in the Passover celebration: “For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, ‘Take, eat; this is My body which is given to you; do this in remembrance of Me.’ In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, ‘This cup is the New Covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.’ For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.” (1 Cor. 11:23-26)

Lulav
17th April 2008, 01:30 AM
That is a good, but hard question. As you have probably learned like I have , there is such a thing as a Christian Passover, I am not sure what is involved though and can be who knows what. but Messianic Jews, we hold the Seder like everyone else, except we see fulfillment of the cups in a different way, that Egypt was a symbol of what was to come.

I'll have to finish the article to see if they say how to do it.

Lulav
17th April 2008, 01:31 AM
He does say this:

CHRISTIAN PASSOVER 
A JEWISH INTERPRETATION
Both Jews and Christians need to recognize the fact that Christian understanding of prophecies and practices in the Hebrew Scriptures rests on interpretations of those Scriptures by Jews of the First Century who came to see Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah of Israel. Jesus Himself was a Torah-observant Jew. All of the apostles on whom the Church was built were Torah-observant Jews. Virtually the entire constituency of the Church’s first decade were Jews who were faithful to the Law. Indeed, many of their number were and continued to be Pharisees (Acts 15:5) and Temple priests. (Acts 6:7) As Jews, they had a clear and distinct right to interpret their Scriptures apart from any overarching dogma or systematic theology imposed upon them by another part of the traditional Jewish community, for no one branch of Judaism was dominant at that time.

Christian interpretations of the Passover and its manifestation in the death and resurrection of Jesus are established on the solid rock of Jewish interpretation. These Jewish followers of Jesus celebrated the Passover Seder traditions of their day, imbuing each part with additional meaning from the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus. When the early Jewish leaders of the Christian Church interpreted the Passover events allegorically as pointing to Jesus, they did so on the basis of Jewish hermeneutics. Later Gentile Christians’ allegorical interpretations of the Exodus Passover events merely expanded upon the foundation that their Jewish predecessors had laid. These ideas, then, were birthed in the fertile hearts of observant Jews: Jesus and His Apostles. They are, therefore, Jewish interpretations, not Gentile interpolations that can be casually dismissed as lacking authenticity.