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HadassahSukkot
15th April 2008, 01:56 PM
Ok, so my dad sends me an email and I think "this has to be something Sci-fi, there's no way this can be for real..." until I remembered all about the newer developments in Genetically Modified Foods and the new labelling laws that are allowing them to do a lot of things to food items without telling people...

Anyway...

Here two links about it:

...In five years, you'll be eating a hamburger that no animal died for. Instead, that burger will have been grown from a tiny sample of cells in a plant-and-mushroom bath. The cow who donated the cells will be frolicking in a meadow somewhere, having long forgotten the annoying poke from a tissue engineer with a syringe.

...This meeting, the first of its kind, signaled the beginning of a viable industry around the production of vat-grown meat....
Tissue Engineering: Vat-Grown Meat about to hit your Supermarket (http://io9.com/379280/vat+grown-meat-about-to-hit-your-local-market)


...The group noted that costs for research, large-scale testing, and public relations will be significant, and anticipated that governments and nonprofit groups would chip in. That seems idealistic, at best, in a world with deeply entrenched interests (http://www.beef.org/) linking ranching, the agrochemical industry, and giant restaurant chains. But one could envision someday a model, say, of a solar-powered facility in southern California or Singapore basically turning sunlight and desalinated seawater into growth medium and then tons of cruelty-free, sustainable nuggets of chicken essence. (The promoters of this technology don’t envision anything, for now at least, beyond nuggets and ground meat. No filet mignon.)
For the moment, startup costs aside, the conferees concluded that unsubsidized chicken-raising still comes in at half the price. But the century is yet young....

and an article with The Telegraph: Can People have Meat and a Planet, Too? (http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/11/can-people-have-meat-and-a-planet-too/)



Who the backers are:

The In Vitro Meat Consortium (http://invitromeat.org/content/view/14/29/) and New Harvest: Advancing Meat Substitutes (http://new-harvest.org/default.php)


All I can think other than obvious cues from "Soylent Green" and other freakish movies... :sorry: is that this certainly cannot be kosher, and really flies in the face of a lot of things in Scripture (Say, mixing animal product with vegetable product like one shouldn't with wool and flax/cotton).. and I can't even begin to imagine what this would do to one's body, if they could handle it. eww. :sick:

Color me squicked.

Lulav
15th April 2008, 02:57 PM
I hear you, and how long before we hear that they are doing this with humans? Notice I said hear, not that they are doing, because if we are hearing of it, it means they are so much more advanced from that and just waiting for us to 'catch-up' to lulled acceptance.

One thing you can say about this so called food is that you can't call it soul food!

I think even Mary Shelly would be shocked!

ChavaK
15th April 2008, 03:19 PM
All the more reason to eat only kosher meat!

Lulav
15th April 2008, 06:51 PM
All the more reason to eat only kosher meat! That opens up a whole other can of worms, what will be Kosher?

Similarly, recent news stories about meat grown
from meat cells in vitro. If the initial sample
is too small to see, is the grown meat a pareve
davar chadash? Is kosher vat-grown pork in
our future? Contrariwise, would kosher vat meat
have to come from shechted animals?

Just so you all know this here thread has already been picked up by google and is seventh in line with under the heading vat grown meat kosher

ChavaK
15th April 2008, 07:05 PM
That opens up a whole other can of worms, what will be Kosher?



Just so you all know this here thread has already been picked up by google and is seventh in line with under the heading vat grown meat kosher

I can't imagine vat meat being kosher....it will be interesting
to see what the poskim think....no doubt there
will be a whole lot of machlochets on this topic.

Lulav
15th April 2008, 07:09 PM
Guaranteed there is lots to hash out and chew on, but to me, the bottom line would be, would any of these be acceptable to HaShem as a sacrifice in his Holy Temple? I think not and so wouldn't eat them myself.

ChavaK
15th April 2008, 08:01 PM
Guaranteed there is lots to hash out and chew on, but to me, the bottom line would be, would any of these be acceptable to HaShem as a sacrifice in his Holy Temple? I think not and so wouldn't eat them myself.

Even if they ruled it kosher-which I doubt-it sounds too
disgusting to eat anyway :sick:

HadassahSukkot
23rd April 2008, 08:56 AM
Remember me mentioning this before?
I just saw another article about it...

PETA offers $1 million for lab-created meat (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-04-22-peta_N.htm?csp=15)

...The reward would go to the first scientist who ....produces enough meat to be marketed in 10 U.S. states at a price competitive with prevailing chicken prices...
(see a little more at the link)