Anyone Else Worried?

[AutumnSnow]

I don't know where to begin except to say this has been on my mind of late. I've kept an open mind as to ALL the hopeful presidential candidates as to be better prepared to make the best decision for my country. I did not start out opposed to Obama. However the more I heard from him, the more wary I became, something wasn't sitting well with me yet I couldn't put my finger on it ... I'd been through a tough time spiritually over the past few months, and quite recently made my peace with Jesus. It was at this time that I felt close to God again, and I began having these terrible feelings that were not linked to anything specific. The best way I can describe it is to compare it to an instinct when we know danger is near - we don't know what it is or when it will come, but we know something is coming.

I am not one to be caught up in paranpid delusions. I'm usually the one who is the voice of reason in the family. However, when I began weighing over this culture of death we live in, how the extreme liberal/secular progressive movement has spread worldwide, the though occurred to me that Barrack Obama seems to be the epitome of this movement & if he was to become President, there may be no turning back to traditional lifestyles.

Please do not judge me for as half baked as this sounds, the thought occurred to me that Obama seems to have many of the qualifications of the Antichrist. The man is, to me, the ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing. He is quite the deciever - he touts himself as a Christian yet his actions do not support this claim. I keep thinking of Jesus' warning to us: "Every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16-20)

Does Revelation not say that the Antichrist will be a "King" who will rule for two years? The False Prophet will herald his coming ... I was thinking this over ... the flase prophet would be someone influential, who had sway over large masses of people. There is no false prophet, right? Oprah Winfrey. I remember a while ago she was claiming on her show that there was more than one way to God - that we did not have to go through Jesus to get to the Kingdom of Heaven! Blasphemy! Jesus told us the only way to the Father is through the Son!!! She is an influential woman and when she talks, people listen. She put Obama on the map, there is no denying it. HE CAME FROM NOWHERE. His real coverage began when Oprah Winfrey endorsed him.

Another thing that bothers me is how people have flocked to him in massive numbers. A friend of mine was commenting on this and she called it mass hysteria ... ok, a misuse of the actual meaning of the word, but she's right. The way in which this country has latched on to him in such a short period of time is worrisome.

Remember the Antichrist's followers were supposed to have a number on their foreheads? What if this has something to do with a voting ID?

So here I am thinking I am mental when I decide to look up my fears on the internet - see if anyone else has made the conneciton. Turns out there are numerous websites making this claim, with scripture to back this up. I was shocked, yet relieved to learn I am not the only one who has made this connection. Here is one of the websites I came across that adressed almost every one fo the fears I'd had - even made the Oprah connection!!!!! http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/

Has anyone else here made these connections? What are your thoughts on this?

[MrJim]

:wave:

Scripture teaches us that fear and worry are not from God~no I am not concerned over who the next Prez will be; I like watching the political process and talking about but I do not participate in the process.

Bear in mind that as a Christian we are part of the Kingdom of God, and that supercedes all the political boundaries set up by men and laws and constitutions. We are ambassadors of that Kingdom to the world here on earth. The nations will rage, their Kingdoms will rise and fall, but ours is a calling from God to share the gospel, care for the sick and widowed and orphaned and imprisoned and hungry.

Obama as antichrist~no, I think that person will be far more clever and less prone to blunders;)

[Canuckmom]

Obama the Antichrist?? Don't think so -that gentleman has been with us for nearly 2000 years already! 1John 2:18,22

[polishbeast]

I also have disliked him the more ive heard of him. The entire thing with his pastor and his responce to the situation has only made my feelings more uneven. Just know that if you belive in God and Jesus and follow their will that you will not fall into falling to what Obama says if he is indeed the antichrist. I dont think he is but either way it is not good to put anyone above God.

[Izdaari]

:wave:

Scripture teaches us that fear and worry are not from God~no I am not concerned over who the next Prez will be; I like watching the political process and talking about but I do not participate in the process.

Bear in mind that as a Christian we are part of the Kingdom of God, and that supercedes all the political boundaries set up by men and laws and constitutions. We are ambassadors of that Kingdom to the world here on earth. The nations will rage, their Kingdoms will rise and fall, but ours is a calling from God to share the gospel, care for the sick and widowed and orphaned and imprisoned and hungry.

Obama as antichrist~no, I think that person will be far more clever and less prone to blunders;)
I'm with MrJim on this one. I don't think Obama is slick enough by half to be the anti-Christ. He's just another politician, though one with considerable charm.

If it were just a personality and character contest, I might be inclined to vote for Obama. I genuinely like the guy, and think he's the best of the three left in the race, issues aside. But I can't put issues aside, and he's dead wrong on the issues. Hillary is no better, and I would never support her in any case. That leaves with me no choice but to support McCain.

[ReformedChapin]

I think we should stop speculating who the anti christ is incorrectly since the church has been making that mistake for 2000 years.

[MrJim]

I think we should stop speculating who the anti christ is incorrectly since the church has been making that mistake for 2000 years.

Guess it's sorta like the lottery~eventually maybe it'll be a winner;)

[Simon_Templar]

I don't think Obama is the anti-christ, however, there is an alarming air of messianic fervor surrounding him and his movement.

If you look at the things his devotees say about him, it is scary.

This is of course nothing new, its happened before in politics, but it is not any better for the fact that its happened before.

There are a lot of people around drinking the Obama cool-aid. I personally think he will be the next president. I also suspect that his presidency, if it does occur will be very bad for the country.

[Simon_Templar]

that the problem with crying wolf... eventually there is going to actually be a wolf.

In the story only the kid who cried wolf got eaten.. in this particular example, lots of other people are likely to get eaten.

[LutheranChick]

Actually there have been many anti-christ's and there will continue to be until the end. But I don't really think Obama falls under that category. There are a lot of other reasons not to vote for him.

[PaladinGirl]

I am personally not happy with any of the candidates. None of them are truly pro-life, not even McCain as is shown by his political voting record.

[Nadiine]

I don't know who the antichrist will be, but I don't think we're biblically called to be looking for him - instead we're to keep our focus on the Lord's return.

I also think that the coming antichrist power isn't going to be from the USA, but from the EU or some other power elsewhere.
I think as Americans we live in a vacuum of what goes on in this country becuz our news is so poor and centralized to what happens here (most of it about Britney Spears or some other celebrity stuff) instead of what's really going on in this world.
We tend to see everythign in a small bubble imho.

I don't know who the antichrist will be, but I know God has it all under control & it will happen on His schedule when the time is right.

I'll continue to focus on the Lord & my service until He returns for me or takes me home before that.
:) :wave:

[MrJim]

:wave: Hey Nadiine~

[Nadiine]

Hey there MrJim!! great to see you! How's things going?
(I'm trying not to burn dinner while I type here, so I have to run check on the stove) ^_^

God bless you!

[MrJim]

Hey there MrJim!! great to see you! How's things going?
(I'm trying not to burn dinner while I type here, so I have to run check on the stove) ^_^

God bless you!

http://bestsmileys.com/fire/1.gif ^_^

[JPPT1974]

IMHO, the only one that has
The right to judge Obama is God
And that I will leave it at that.
But wished that Huckabee was still in the race
As I really don't like the candidates.
But would pick McCain anyday over the two.

[Nadiine]

IMHO, the only one that has
The right to judge Obama is God
And that I will leave it at that.
But wished that Huckabee was still in the race
As I really don't like the candidates.
But would pick McCain anyday over the two.
I would of wanted Huckabee till I heard Rush Limbaugh rehash his voting and proposed ideals.
As he read them off, I thought Rush was going over a liberal's record!
He may be Christian, but his policies are quite liberal - after hearing those details, I didn't want him at all and was very happy he was defeated.
I don't like McCain any either, but I find Mccain more conservative in his political policies than Huckabee (amazingly).
I think the only way Huckabee is hardcore conservative is in his moral views.

[Nadiine]

http://bestsmileys.com/fire/1.gif ^_^
ROFLOL
I missed this post. I love that! Gosh that could of come in handy lots of times at my house. ^_^ :P

[Chococat]

I don't know where to begin except to say this has been on my mind of late. I've kept an open mind as to ALL the hopeful presidential candidates as to be better prepared to make the best decision for my country. I did not start out opposed to Obama. However the more I heard from him, the more wary I became, something wasn't sitting well with me yet I couldn't put my finger on it ... I'd been through a tough time spiritually over the past few months, and quite recently made my peace with Jesus. It was at this time that I felt close to God again, and I began having these terrible feelings that were not linked to anything specific. The best way I can describe it is to compare it to an instinct when we know danger is near - we don't know what it is or when it will come, but we know something is coming.

I am not one to be caught up in paranpid delusions. I'm usually the one who is the voice of reason in the family. However, when I began weighing over this culture of death we live in, how the extreme liberal/secular progressive movement has spread worldwide, the though occurred to me that Barrack Obama seems to be the epitome of this movement & if he was to become President, there may be no turning back to traditional lifestyles.

Please do not judge me for as half baked as this sounds, the thought occurred to me that Obama seems to have many of the qualifications of the Antichrist. The man is, to me, the ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing. He is quite the deciever - he touts himself as a Christian yet his actions do not support this claim. I keep thinking of Jesus' warning to us: "Every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16-20)

Does Revelation not say that the Antichrist will be a "King" who will rule for two years? The False Prophet will herald his coming ... I was thinking this over ... the flase prophet would be someone influential, who had sway over large masses of people. There is no false prophet, right? Oprah Winfrey. I remember a while ago she was claiming on her show that there was more than one way to God - that we did not have to go through Jesus to get to the Kingdom of Heaven! Blasphemy! Jesus told us the only way to the Father is through the Son!!! She is an influential woman and when she talks, people listen. She put Obama on the map, there is no denying it. HE CAME FROM NOWHERE. His real coverage began when Oprah Winfrey endorsed him.

Another thing that bothers me is how people have flocked to him in massive numbers. A friend of mine was commenting on this and she called it mass hysteria ... ok, a misuse of the actual meaning of the word, but she's right. The way in which this country has latched on to him in such a short period of time is worrisome.

Remember the Antichrist's followers were supposed to have a number on their foreheads? What if this has something to do with a voting ID?

So here I am thinking I am mental when I decide to look up my fears on the internet - see if anyone else has made the conneciton. Turns out there are numerous websites making this claim, with scripture to back this up. I was shocked, yet relieved to learn I am not the only one who has made this connection. Here is one of the websites I came across that adressed almost every one fo the fears I'd had - even made the Oprah connection!!!!! http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/

Has anyone else here made these connections? What are your thoughts on this?

While I'm no fan of Mr Obama, mainly because of his liberalism, especially his support for abortion and hope he does not become the next US President for that reason (though I have a feeling he will) I don't believe he is the Antichrist. For one thing Scripture indicates that the AC will arise from the boundaries of what used to be the ancient Roman Empire which suggest he will be European.

[Spudgrandma]

Well, Obama really worries me.....not that I in anyway think he is the anti-christ, but we sure do not know what his agenda is (change means nothing to me, change what his socks)

I find comfort in the fact that God is in control, but I still don't want to go through what we will if Obama becomes prez....... I don't think it will be plesant.

Praise God I have my faith in the Lord and the knowledge that He will never leave me or forsake me. :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Nadiine]

Well, Obama really worries me.....not that I in anyway think he is the anti-christ, but we sure do not know what his agenda is (change means nothing to me, change what his socks)
Goodness, but I sure hope so. lol :)~


I find comfort in the fact that God is in control, but I still don't want to go through what we will if Obama becomes prez....... I don't think it will be plesant.

Praise God I have my faith in the Lord and the knowledge that He will never leave me or forsake me. :clap: :clap: :clap:

:thumbsup: Frankly none of the candidates float my boat, but I sure won't be voting for Obama or Hillary.

I have 1 word:

PRAY. :groupray:

[Spudgrandma]

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Goodness, but I sure hope so. lol :)~


:thumbsup: Frankly none of the candidates float my boat, but I sure won't be voting for Obama or Hillary.

I have 1 word:

PRAY. :groupray:



I agree, don't really like any of them either and if ever there was an election of the lesser of two evils, I think this one qualifies. ;)

I guess we will get what we get and we will live with it until the next election :P

We just have to pray that they don't break things tooooooo bad in the mean time. :sigh: :swoon:

[edb19]

1. I agree with all who say we aren't to be concerned with who the anti-christ is (I also agree with those who said there have been many - it's someone who stands against Jesus the Christ)

2. as far as the next POUSA - whoever is the next resident of the Oval Office - he/she will be there because he's supposed to be there in accordance with God's plans

[Sojourner1]

Obama isn't the antichrist, but I think that this whole situation has demonstrated how the AC will be able to get everyone to follow him. People have become followers and they are looking for a leader, but they want a leader who will tell them what they want to hear and entice them with promises of change and unity. This is just one more step in getting the world ready for the appearance of the AC.

[JimfromOhio]

I am not worrying because I cannot and will NOT dispute God's word how He manages this world. Governments are God's ordained. This is the concept of Romans 8:28-29 "And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them." God governs (controls) the world (Isa. 40:22-24), the nations (Isa. 40:15-17), and us (Proverbs 16:9).

No matter what happens, God is still in control .

[salida]

No, I'm not worried. Its not just Obama - McCain is a liberal with a R on him. I pray that Congress will become much more conservative and fight any of these three candidates. I'm voting all conservative to fight against any of these three.

[MrJim]

God's got it all under control~I trust so much I don't even bother with the voting thing ;)

[AJblaise]

I don't see any logical base to the theory of the OPer.

[Nadiine]

God's got it all under control~I trust so much I don't even bother with the voting thing ;)
=)
I trust just the same:thumbsup: only I believe that as His "servants",
God involves us (uses us) as His "hands and feet" in employing those plans He has

[Spudgrandma]

=)
I trust just the same:thumbsup: only I believe that as His "servants",
God involves us (uses us) as His "hands and feet" in employing those plans He has




Amen..... I also believe that God is in complete control, but I don't believe we are to sit back and do nothing. And, as I said in an earlier post, I know God is in control but I still don't think I will like what we will have to go through if certain things come to pass......that does not mean I do not have faith and that I don't believe that God is in control.

[Nadiine]

Amen..... I also believe that God is in complete control, but I don't believe we are to sit back and do nothing. And, as I said in an earlier post, I know God is in control but I still don't think I will like what we will have to go through if certain things come to pass......that does not mean I do not have faith and that I don't believe that God is in control.

This is how I feel too Spud - let's face it, anyone claiming they will enjoy and like the persecution, intensifying evil and hatred for what is righteous, plus end times disaster signs (like food shortages, sun burning people, etc.) is just nuts lol.

I don't know what will happen in this election, but whatever it is, I pray God help us and keep us protected.

[MrJim]

Who said anything about sitting back and doing nothing~all I said was I trust God to provide our leaders, and as the thread has indicated the system is corrupted and the candidates are suspect~so why bother with that little detail. That doesn't equal "sitting back and doing nothing".

[Spudgrandma]

Who said anything about sitting back and doing nothing~all I said was I trust God to provide our leaders, and as the thread has indicated the system is corrupted and the candidates are suspect~so why bother with that little detail. That doesn't equal "sitting back and doing nothing".


Sorry, I just made a statement, not directed at ANYONE. Sorry if you took offense but I was just speaking in general.

BTW, had I been addressing you I would have quoted you.

Guess I will bow out now. Bye!

[MrJim]

Sorry, I just made a statement, not directed at ANYONE. Sorry if you took offense but I was just speaking in general.

BTW, had I been addressing you I would have quoted you.

Guess I will bow out now. Bye!


:hug: didn't mean to sound mean:sorry:

[NorrinRadd]

I don't think Obama is the Anti-Christ, but I'm concerned about his politics and his associations.

And I think if he gets elected AND has any overwhelmingly Dem Congress (which becomes more and more likely), they'll collectively plunge the country into a Carter-esque morass -- or worse.

[Nadiine]

I don't think Obama is the Anti-Christ, but I'm concerned about his politics and his associations.

And I think if he gets elected AND has any overwhelmingly Dem Congress (which becomes more and more likely), they'll collectively plunge the country into a Carter-esque morass -- or worse.
Ya... well I've heard plenty of times lately that he was voted the most liberal in his voting record.

That tells me all I need to know!
(I've also gotten emails that Muslims are actually hoping he gets elected - that tells me something too) :idea:
:swoon:

[MrJim]

(I've also gotten emails that Muslims are actually hoping he gets elected - that tells me something too) :idea::swoon:

Yeah, but you'll see WN/s endorsing a conservative candidate~a lot of the boys at Stormfront are huge Ron Paul supporters...

[Nadiine]

Yeah, but you'll see WN/s endorsing a conservative candidate~a lot of the boys at Stormfront are huge Ron Paul supporters...
Hi Jim =)
pardon my ignorance, but what is WN? wing nuts? lol

[Izdaari]

I bet it is. There are wing nuts who'll support just anybody. By their fruits, ye shall know them... but not necessarily by their wing nuts. ;)

[Nadiine]

I bet it is. There are wing nuts who'll support just anybody. By their fruits, ye shall know them... but not necessarily by their wing nuts. ;)
hehe ya.
Well, here in Cal. there was some porn star girl running for an office. (seriously)...
I about croaked. Not a whole lot shocks me these days - altho I do get surprised here and there (and not in a good way).

[Izdaari]

hehe ya.
Well, here in Cal. there was some porn star girl running for an office. (seriously)...
I about croaked. Not a whole lot shocks me these days - altho I do get surprised here and there (and not in a good way).
IIRC, one of those ran for parliament in Italy, and was elected. ^_^

P.S.: Yep, I was right. Illona Staller aka Cicciolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Staller), was elected in 1987. She served one term, then lost her bid for re-election, but continues to be active in Italian politics. She's a leftie, no surprise there.

[Nadiine]

IIRC, one of those ran for parliament in Italy, and was elected. ^_^

P.S.: Yep, I was right. Illona Staller aka Cicciolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Staller), was elected in 1987. She served one term, then lost her bid for re-election, but continues to be active in Italian politics. She's a leftie, no surprise there.

:eek:

*note to self: cancel trip to Italy

lol

[dayhiker]

Seems to me that to say an American running for president is the antichrist is making America way too importand. I don't even see America mentioned in the Bible.

Besides why would a Christian become the antichrist? Makes no sense to me.

[BigBrotherDan]

I believe the "Flying Eagle" discussed in the book of Revelation is the United States.

[JPPT1974]

I don't think Obama is the Anti-Christ, but I'm concerned about his politics and his associations.

And I think if he gets elected AND has any overwhelmingly Dem Congress (which becomes more and more likely), they'll collectively plunge the country into a Carter-esque morass -- or worse.

He isn't the anti-Christ
As there are more worse than
He is I think. I am like you
Concerned about his politics and beliefs.

[MrJim]

really, what is there to worry about...?


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[twistedsketch]

I think it's possible, but I won't go so far as to say he is. Whenever the Antichrist does reveal himself, it's not as if we'll be able to stop him, anyway.

[twistedsketch]

IIRC, one of those ran for parliament in Italy, and was elected. ^_^

P.S.: Yep, I was right. Illona Staller aka Cicciolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Staller), was elected in 1987. She served one term, then lost her bid for re-election, but continues to be active in Italian politics. She's a leftie, no surprise there.

She has the face of a tranny. :sick:

[Teh0bb3s]

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