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visionary
12th April 2008, 02:27 PM
Genesis 3:14-15, where it says:

"And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed ; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel".

This scripture gives the Torah its first prophecy on the "virgin birth" of the Messiah. According to Genesis 3:15, the English word, "seed", in Hebrew, is zera, which usually refers to that unseeable life-giving "force" – i.e. a microscopic "sperm"

Hebrew word, zera, had connotations of biological reproduction or references to geneologies – particularly as the word commonly related to the male gender – thus, the word rarely – if ever – made reference to a "woman" or the female gender – as in the way it is being applied in Gen. 3:15. As a matter of fact, by associating the Hebrew word, zera, with ishshah (Heb. "woman"), the writer of Genesis is indicating to the reader that the word "seed" itself – particularly as it applies to the "seed of Eve" – this same word, zera, uniquely applies in this verse – NOT to a man's geneology; but rather, to a woman's geneology. In other words, this human being called "the Seed" – i.e. the "Messiah" – of whom is prophesied to "bruise" Satan's head – is the same person that God refers, in Gen. 3:15, as "her seed" – or "Eve's seed".

Messiah WILL NOT be born of a man's "seed"; but rather, he will be born of a woman's "seed" i.e. – Eve's seed – or "her seed", as Gen 3:15 expresses so. Therefore, for the Son of God to enter into the world, the Lord has designed that His own "seed" – which nomally would "come out" of the loins of a man – instead "come out" of the woman. Thus, the Son of God would miraculously be born WITHOUT the involvement of a physical, biological father. And having no physical earthly father, Eve's "seed" would instead have God Himself as being his one and only Father ; while at the same time, Eve's "seed" would indeed have a God-appointed virgin serving as his earthly mother.

visionary
12th April 2008, 02:37 PM
THE two Hebrew nouns ish and ishshah were originally employed to designate the “male and female” of human beings, but were afterwards applied to the “male and female” of the other species of the animal creation. For instance, we read, “Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens,” ish ve-ishto (Gen. vii. 2), in the same sense as ish ve-ishshah, “male and female.” The term zakar u-nekebah was afterwards applied to anything designed and prepared for union with another object Thus we read, “The five curtains shall be coupled together, one (ishshah) to the other” (aḥotah). Ex. 26:3

Kris10leigh
12th April 2008, 05:49 PM
I read through your post very carefully. I was hoping it would clarify for me Yeshua's relationship with God, but it did not. It does prove that God is the Father (which I knew) but it does not prove that Yeshua IS God.

Ah well. I never made the exact connection you wrote out. That's pretty interesting.

johnd
12th April 2008, 09:20 PM
I read through your post very carefully. I was hoping it would clarify for me Yeshua's relationship with God, but it did not. It does prove that God is the Father (which I knew) but it does not prove that Yeshua IS God.

Ah well. I never made the exact connection you wrote out. That's pretty interesting.

To me the matter is simple. If you believe God created all things, then you already believe Yeshua is God incarnate. You acknowledge the Father begot the Son.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The one and only thing the Father created was the incarnate body of the Son... who preexisted as God the Word (John 1:1) who is the actual Creator of Heaven and Earth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

The Word who became the Son is who is meant by:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

No wonder its puzzling you about the relationship between God the Father and God the Son (dare I mention God the Holy Spirit?)...