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JM
26th June 2004, 03:57 PM
Just wondered how many on this forum felt a debt of graditude for the theological work done by Darby and Scofield? I'm hardy without my Ol' Scofield Bible. ;)

In what ways have they helped you better understand the word of God? I stop mixing Law and Grace after reading Scofields work on rightly dividing the word, it was in the Bible all along. :blush:

premilldispensationalist
27th June 2004, 06:57 AM
Just wondered how many on this forum felt a debt of graditude for the theological work done by Darby and Scofield? I'm hardy without my Ol' Scofield Bible. ;)

In what ways have they helped you better understand the word of God? I stop mixing Law and Grace after reading Scofields work on rightly dividing the word, it was in the Bible all along. :blush:


I am highly endebted to both of these great theologians. I have my Scofield Study Bible open daily and I love the eschatological notes. However the Scofeild and Darby dispensationalist scheme are different and Scofield is less strict on the New Covenant and so I lean more toward the Darbyite position.

Regards,
Richard Sherratt

JM
27th June 2004, 10:15 AM
I understand Darby and Scofield held different views, either way they still offer us a more pure form of understanding the word by showing us the difference between the Church and Isreal. This alone cleared up many problems I had with understanding the Bible...

God Bless you Richard.

White_Socks
27th June 2004, 02:05 PM
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Eusebios
28th June 2004, 12:01 AM
I do enjoy Scofield's commentary very much at times.

JM
28th June 2004, 12:03 AM
An Orthodox Scofield fan? Very cool, welcome.

TheScottsMen
28th June 2004, 01:55 PM
Rightly dividing the word of truth!;) The study of dispensationalism has brought great joy to my life! It's very interesting to study how different men of God viewed each age/dispen a bit different. Darby with his 5, Scofield with his 7, and Dakes with his 7 or 9. Great stuff! I've ordered an Old Scofield and a New Scofield last week via Amazon. Looking forward to having the Bible. I have both in digital format right now. I was introduced into dispensationalism when I started attending college. My Professor wrote a book called, "God's Purpose for Man", which she she talks about dispen. From there I picked up the Dakes Bible, WHOAH! Talk about notes!:) I don't agree with everything Dakes writes but he was used greatly by God. From Dakes I picked up the Bullinger Bible. Again, WHOAH. Bullinger was an Acts 28 or 9 dispen (depending on who you ask or what book you read by him). Right now I'm study about mid-acts dispens. Very interesting stuff.

http://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/

Excellent site. They have a lending library. So, I asked if I could use a audio program on "The Mystery". Sure enough, 1 week later I had been mailed a box with 9 tapes! They simply asked that I return them in a month and to be sure to pick up another series!

Well, there we go!:)

Oh yeah, one thought. The Pentecostal movement picked up a lot on dispensationalism, but correct me if I'm wrong, Scofield nor Darby had any type of pentecostal experience? I've not done my history well enough on both of these men.

Glad to see other dispens/bereans on this forum,

TSM

thaiv
28th June 2004, 04:31 PM
Where can I get a Darby translation?

JM
28th June 2004, 11:17 PM
On Esword. If you do a web search you'll find it, it's free.

thaiv
28th June 2004, 11:38 PM
Where can I get a printed version of the Darby translation?

premilldispensationalist
1st July 2004, 10:23 AM
Great stuff! I've ordered an Old Scofield and a New Scofield last week via Amazon. Looking forward to having the Bible.

I have the First Scofield and it is fantastic!! Let me know what the New Scofield is like!!

Regards,
Richard

premilldispensationalist
1st July 2004, 10:25 AM
Where can I get a printed version of the Darby translation?

Good question! Let me know when you find out!! :)

Regards,
Richard

JM
1st July 2004, 07:17 PM
The New Scofield is not a Scofield at all, I'd suggest reading the reviews on Amazon.com to find out more. I'm stayin' clear...

thaiv
2nd July 2004, 12:27 AM
I have heard similar reports about the New Scofield. Where could I get an original printed edition of it? Anyone find a printed Darby translation on sale?

premilldispensationalist
2nd July 2004, 07:09 AM
I have heard similar reports about the New Scofield.

Can you clue me in?

JM
2nd July 2004, 08:27 AM
Found on Amazon.com

Reviewer: A reader from Las Vegas, NV United States For people who have been caught unaware, the "New Scofield Bible" is not a "Genuine" Old Scofield Bible. C.I. Scofield died in 1921. The New Scofield was put together in 1967 by an independant committee. They added numerous notes that certainly would not have agreed with Dr. Scofield. Example: Acts 8:12- They talk about baptism being not only done by immersion, but by sprinking and pouring. The KJB explains that true water baptism is by immersion only. They also mess with the KJV text by adding double meanings that are different from the Old Scofield Bible. For people wanting to buy a Scofield Bible because of the author's great umderstanding of the scriptures, should be advised to buy the "Real One". For people who don't care, anything on the market will do.
Here's one just for fun...:D

Reviewer: An Amazon.com Customer Buying a bible with commentaries from Scofield is like buying a Physics textbook by Aristotle. Times have changed. If you live in the past and you think that every major technological and theological development since 1900 is part of a liberal conspiracy, then THIS IS THE BIBLE FOR YOU! If you are a Christian and are also well educated and intelligent, try the Oxford NRSV or the Oxford REB.

premilldispensationalist
2nd July 2004, 09:41 AM
Found on Amazon.com


Here's one just for fun...:D

Well I am off for some exercise on my penny farthing! :D

JM
22nd September 2005, 04:02 PM
I do enjoy Scofield's commentary very much at times.

Are you still a fan?

Wolfman66
22nd September 2005, 09:33 PM
My parents gave me a Scofield for my high school graduation gift. I still have it even though it has been MANY years ago. (Its actually in good condition because I rarely used it back then.) Now, however, I have had to get a large print. I was amazed that the pages were exactly as they were in my original small print. It just has grown on me. Now, I dont think I will ever use anything else.
Never heard of the New Scofield. Dont sound much like anything I would purchase.
Darby....Darby...I've heard that name. Isnt he the father of dis.........uh dispens........sa...........dispensationalism or something?

Mick116
25th September 2005, 07:44 PM
(note: I posted this question on the brethren thread as well)

It has been stated on this thread that John Nelson Darby and the early pioneers of the brethren movement were responsible for restoring (introducing?) belief in dispensationalism (of the pre-tribulation rapture variety).

However, I've read in a few places that Edward Irving held very similar eschatological beliefs at about the same time, perhaps even slightly earlier. Does anyone know if this is accurate? I'm fairly certain that some of the Apostolic churches today (e.g. the New Apostolic Church), which are historically linked with Irving, emphasize dispensational beliefs.

Mick116
25th September 2005, 07:53 PM
Oh yeah, one thought. The Pentecostal movement picked up a lot on dispensationalism, but correct me if I'm wrong, Scofield nor Darby had any type of pentecostal experience? I've not done my history well enough on both of these men.


I don't know about Scofield, but I'm pretty sure that Darby did not hold any characteristically pentecostal beliefs. Edward Irving, who is also associated with the early revival of dispensationalism, emphasized speaking in tongues and prophecy in his preaching, and I think such practices were common amongst his congregations.

JM
26th September 2005, 11:16 AM
(note: I posted this question on the brethren thread as well)

It has been stated on this thread that John Nelson Darby and the early pioneers of the brethren movement were responsible for restoring (introducing?) belief in dispensationalism (of the pre-tribulation rapture variety).

However, I've read in a few places that Edward Irving held very similar eschatological beliefs at about the same time, perhaps even slightly earlier. Does anyone know if this is accurate? I'm fairly certain that some of the Apostolic churches today (e.g. the New Apostolic Church), which are historically linked with Irving, emphasize dispensational beliefs.

I believe that is accurate.

At the time the brethren popped up, a group of folks professing similar beliefs could be found in the US (1812) and a little latter in India. Edward Irving is often brought up and used as a 'guilt by association' argument which is a logical fallacy.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/guilt-by-association.html

JM
26th September 2005, 03:06 PM
http://www.christianforums.com/t1901612-brethren.html&page=3#post18762208