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JM
26th June 2004, 12:47 PM
A brand-new translation of the Bible – praised by Britain's archbishop of Canterbury, that nation’s senior Christian voice – flatly contradicts traditional core Christian beliefs on sex and morality. Found a new Bible translation but can't post the link yet...I'll add a couple of quotes for now.

In keeping with the times, translator Henson deftly translates "demon possession" as "mental illness" and "Son of Man," the expression Jesus frequently used to describe himself, as "the Complete Person."


Mark 1:4

Authorized version: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins."

New: "John, nicknamed 'The Dipper,' was 'The Voice.' He was in the desert, inviting people to be dipped, to show they were determined to change their ways and wanted to be forgiven."

Mark 1:10-11

Authorized version: "And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him. And there came a voice from the heaven saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

New: "As he was climbing up the bank again, the sun shone through a gap in the clouds. At the same time a pigeon flew down and perched on him. Jesus took this as a sign that God's spirit was with him. A voice from overhead was heard saying, 'That's my boy! You're doing fine!'"

BarbB
26th June 2004, 01:22 PM
It sounds gross to me. I think that we can carry the "contemporary translation" bit too far. Also, the eliminating of the sexual sin stuff is way out there. I wonder how pleased God is about this one? :sigh:

Ainesis
26th June 2004, 01:46 PM
Found a new Bible translation but can't post the link yet...I'll add a couple of quotes for now.
Hmmmmm.....:sigh:

There is really nothing to say. People who want to find ways to create their own gods will always do so. It is a way to diminish Jesus as the Son of God and the only way to the Father.

Yet, in spite of the perversion, this we know, "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled." Matthew 5:6

God is able to reveal Truth to those who seek Him.

Netzari5730
26th June 2004, 04:31 PM
Found a new Bible translation but can't post the link yet...I'll add a couple of quotes for now.
I have only two words for this new per-version...

OY VEY!!!:doh:

In Yeshua...
Netzari5730

Lady_Firehawk
27th June 2004, 11:34 PM
Give us a name for the version so we can sweep through the bookstores, buy every copy and BURN them! ;) Then again, it's summer and too hot to have a fire in the fireplace... maybe in the backyard firepit... :P

Ugh... sounds... incredibly stupid, that's what.

OY VEY!!!:doh:


My thoughts exactly...

HumbleMan
29th June 2004, 10:49 PM
I hope this is a joke.

No, I pray that this is a joke.

JM
29th June 2004, 11:30 PM
Nope, it's not. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3833693.stm

J.A.I
30th June 2004, 12:41 AM
The Message Bible is cool and modernizes it, but even it says that it is a paraphrase and that you should have an actual Bible alongside it... but atleast it sticks to the Biblical truths!

This new translation is horrible!

In the new version, St Paul's advice that men and women should marry is replaced with they should have a "regular partner".

Oh no, buddy, that isn't gonna fly at ALL. That is the devil.

J.A.I
30th June 2004, 11:00 AM
Here's a more extensive article. My friend showed me the link this morning.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39114

Foundthelight
30th June 2004, 11:48 AM
Here's a more extensive article. My friend showed me the link this morning.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39114
I just read this link. What a sick perversion of the Gospel! I want to vomit. I pray that the translators and publishers will come to their senses and beg God for forgivness.

Ainesis
30th June 2004, 11:53 AM
I cannot even bring myself to read it. I am sure that your witness to it is accurate.

It is such a dangerous thing to play with God and with His Words. How could we even presume to improve on what He has said (in terms of changing its context).

I too pray that they will repent, for what has been done is grievous. :(

joe_mikol
30th June 2004, 06:01 PM
How can someone call this a 'translation' when it has openly been modified as a completley different, twisted, and corrupted form of what was originally written by the apostles? This is NOT a translation, but a perverse new introduction of "modern" Christianity, which, indeed, is not Christianity at all.

In Christ,

Joe

BronxBriar
30th June 2004, 06:47 PM
Mark 1:4

Authorized version: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins."

New: "John, nicknamed 'The Dipper,' was 'The Voice.' He was in the desert, inviting people to be dipped, to show they were determined to change their ways and wanted to be forgiven."


I'm surprised they didn't call him the "Big Dipper".......I don't know wether to laugh or cry.

In Fellowship.

Celticflower
30th June 2004, 07:05 PM
[QUOTE=Lady_Firehawk]Give us a name for the version so we can sweep through the bookstores, buy every copy and BURN them! ;) Then again, it's summer and too hot to have a fire in the fireplace... maybe in the backyard firepit... :P

QUOTE]


You bring the graham crackers, I'll bring the hershey bars and marshmallows :yum: . No point in letting a good fire go to waste.

As far as the content of this book--no thank you! I can see modernizing some of the language (KJV is a bit tough for kids to read at times), but NIV is as far as I would go with that. The passages cited in other posts read like they were written by someone mocking Christianity. It is totally absurd.

Ainesis
30th June 2004, 07:08 PM
I'm surprised they didn't call him the "Big Dipper".......LOL!!! ^_^

Maybe those writers aren't as clever as they think!

kayanne
30th June 2004, 08:40 PM
The passages cited in other posts read like they were written by someone mocking Christianity. It is totally absurd.
definitely. though not the most theologically offensive change, i found myself wondering why in the world they would change "dove" to "pigeon." doves are beautiful and elegant; pigeons are a nuisance that poop everywhere. even that change sounds mocking.

Protoevangel
1st July 2004, 01:44 AM
Even after reading some of the articles, I thought it must be a hoax gone ape-doodoo. I have heard about articles from the Onion ending up in national and international news, because the reporter and editor get caught up in the story and never check their sources. I don't think this is the case here, though. :sigh: Anyone want to buy a copy to burn? http://www.chbookshop.co.uk/product.asp?id=2380182 :help:

MKalashnikov
1st July 2004, 03:51 AM
2 Timothy 3:1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was. 10 But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, 11persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra--what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. 13But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

2 Timothy 4:2Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

Svt4Him
1st July 2004, 05:01 AM
Perhaps get some info from someone who's not a KJV only activist before you go start burning the Bibles.

And the message is not a paraphrase.

J.A.I
1st July 2004, 09:24 AM
Perhaps get some info from someone who's not a KJV only activist before you go start burning the Bibles.

And the message is not a paraphrase.

1 - Regardless of who the info came from, it is the truth. I could care less if it came from a nonbeliever. That new so called Bible is twisting the words of God.

2 - On the Message Bible, it says itself - "Eugene Peterson's best selling paraphrasing translation of the Bible". I am looking at it right now. I own it.

Acquired Tastes
1st July 2004, 10:13 AM
Ugh, this is rather disgusting. :(

I can't believe people are actually endorsing this per-version of God's Holy Word. :sigh: