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Skeeterbug
9th April 2008, 04:23 PM
Last Seder I used Beaver creek Mild horseradish and my husband jumped up screaming and running around the table and by the time we done the ?Hillel I practically had to threaten him to get him to do it.
Now he is getting nervous even though it is funny to watch. Does anyone know of a milder horseradish or a substitution. of course me being a smark alek told him the maror had to hot enough to bring tears to his eyes.:D

FaithfulWife
12th April 2008, 06:31 PM
Last Seder I used Beaver creek Mild horseradish and my husband jumped up screaming and running around the table and by the time we done the ?Hillel I practically had to threaten him to get him to do it.
Now he is getting nervous even though it is funny to watch. Does anyone know of a milder horseradish or a substitution. of course me being a smark alek told him the maror had to hot enough to bring tears to his eyes.:D

:wave: Hey Skeeterbug!

In real life, the maror is supposed to be bitter because it's supposed to remind us of the bitterness of slavery. However, it's my understanding that rather than using horseradish, it is just as halachically appropriate to use romaine lettuce leaves.

I know some people make their charoset without wine. Then they use actual horseradish root and grate off some of the root. For Hillel's sandwich they wrap the charoset and the grated horseradish in the romaine leaves, and they dip that wrap into wine. Then they "dry" off the wine and eat it with matzah (so that no wetness touches the matzah).

I personally do not enjoy the horseradish part, but I grate the root, the lettuce helps mute the taste a bit, and the little maror 'wrap" works. For those who still find that too much, the romaine leaves alone DO meet the requirement for maror.

:pink: YAY Pesach! I love it! It's something new every year.


~Faithful

Wags
12th April 2008, 07:25 PM
Boy if he can't handle a little Beaver Creek he certainly wouldn't be able to handle what my hubby makes! We keep it wrapped in cello on the seder plate just to spare folks the tears until the appropriate time. :D

HadassahSukkot
15th April 2008, 08:42 AM
:d Lol!

visionary
15th April 2008, 09:48 AM
I do not know what horseradish they use at the synagogue I go to, but it sent sparks off the tips of my ears. Then my body craved it and kept going back for more..

Lulav
16th April 2008, 04:17 PM
I am oversensitive to it, even the smell on the sederr plate can make me cry. I have asked one of the guests to bring a piece for the plate from her garden, freshly dug this week, and good thing , the pitiful things I saw in the market set out for us ...........:eek: I found some 'sauce' this year that is creamy and has some lemon in it, thought it would go well with the fish. Gold's also make a beet variety that is K4P, but I have to be careful of that because of the MSG connection.

thing is, when I hear the telling, I cry without help, so horseradish is pointless to me. We are supposed to eat bitter herbs.

you don't have to use horseradish, in fact I don't think it's native to Egypt, is it?

The Israelites were commanded to eat the Paschal lamb "with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs." Ex 12:8 These "bitter herbs" consisted of such plants as chicory, bitter cresses, hawkweeds, sow-thistles and wild lettuces,

In the book Plants of the Bible t (http://books.google.com/books?id=EEt3GA6CxNwC&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=bitter+herbs+grow+egypt&source=web&ots=JZ6KiNuDv6&sig=4lKaZARTAvTdAlQyJLceH2ey0ck&hl=en)hey say that one of these bitter herbs ( notice the plural) could be dandelion, which is available in spring to practically everyone. A nice dandelion salad may be more acceptable and less harmful.

Torah613
17th April 2008, 11:34 AM
I use raw garlic, as horseraddish isn't readily available in these parts except for canned varieties that I'm not sure were actually horseraddish at one time or another. So garlic it is for me (and when raw, its bitter enough...)

Yochanan

Lulav
17th April 2008, 01:30 PM
That actually could have been one of the 'bitter' herbs eaten with the original passover. And garlic goes well with lamb ( sorry Joseph), and also was something they complained about missing in the wilderness.
At my seder I am making sure to have the 6 things they listed in Numbers that they missed, since we are enacting the first passover which was still in Egypt. So, melons, cucumbers, leeks, onions, garlic and fish And numbers 11 is the only place in the bible where garlic is mentioned! I love garlic!

Torah613
18th April 2008, 10:26 AM
That actually could have been one of the 'bitter' herbs eaten with the original passover. And garlic goes well with lamb ( sorry Joseph), and also was something they complained about missing in the wilderness.
At my seder I am making sure to have the 6 things they listed in Numbers that they missed, since we are enacting the first passover which was still in Egypt. So, melons, cucumbers, leeks, onions, garlic and fish And numbers 11 is the only place in the bible where garlic is mentioned! I love garlic!
If you would please, refrain from calling me Joseph. That was my baptismal name in the Eastern Orthodox Church, and when I made Tshuva I left all that behind. I still have that as my username here because I can't figure out how to change it.

My given name is Yochanan, after my great-grandfather. among goyim, I generally go by Joe after my great love of coffee.

Yochanan

Torah613
18th April 2008, 10:28 AM
Garlic does go well with lamb! (I know this from distant memories of those darkdays in my life when I ate animal flesh ;) )

Actually, garlic goes well with everything and is good for the health. So I shall be saying L'chaim to you over a nice ripe clove!

Yochanan

Lulav
18th April 2008, 02:51 PM
L'chaim! Yes, I love garlic and try to incorporate it in everything I can. One of the things I make and everyone says that its strong but they eat it till its all gone and I don't get any, is a spinach garlic roasted red pepper spread. I know you don't do dairy but it's made with 2 blocks cream cheese, as many cloves of garlic as I dare, usually about 5-6 and a about a half tabl of roasted red pepper tapinade, and a large handful of fresh spinach . This I serve with veggie chips.

I also like to use the garlic scapes for various things and get them at my organic farm I have a share in.

johnd
20th April 2008, 09:34 AM
Till it's gone? Who could resist noshing on chips and and a shmear?

Lebesgue
23rd April 2008, 03:48 PM
I love horseradish!

We had that with the lamb at the seder my family and I had at home last Saturday night for Erev Pesach.

My wife is a Christian but she is observing Pesach with me including matzah only for bread the whole week.
She is really fascinated by my observing Torah and living a Jewish life as a Messianic believer, it is appearing to be a real witness for her and has been a total blessing for me.

Since I had t'shuvah this past Yom Kippur when I realised the need for t'shuvah and rededicated my life to the L-rd I have had such joy and peace! All I can say is Baruch HaShem!

Shalom,

Lebesgue

Lulav
23rd April 2008, 04:09 PM
Good to see you back, how have your studies been going?

:)

Lebesgue
23rd April 2008, 05:34 PM
Good to see you back, how have your studies been going?

:)

They're going well. I had mixed results last quarter I did really well in one class and not so good in the other.

Things are going better this quarter.

It's good to be back.

Shalom,

Lebesgue