The Order of the Candle

[Celticflower]

Any ideas on how to show love in the political forums? :)

By staying out of political forums??? ;)

Celtie

[dsdumpling]

By staying out of political forums??? ;)

Celtie


;) Good answer Celtie.

[Kokopelli]

Any ideas on how to show love in the political forums? :)

By casting a vote for me when I decide to run for President? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_204.gif

On a serious note, Celtie answered it best. However, the political forums can be used as a form of entertainment when reading some of the thoughts presented... ^_^

[wvmtnkid]

SandyLou-glad to hear you are doing well, but I am sorry to hear about your sister's house. Hoping repairs came fast and easy. And hoping Ivan will just go someplace else! :) I know, not probably going to happen, but I pray for God's hand to still the storm.

seeking.IAM-:wave: Glad you found your way over! Welcome!

ClementofRome-I have no idea why your candle would just disappear. The first thing I would do is check your Control Panel to make sure it is still "equipped". If not, let me know. Maybe something happened in some of the changes that Erwin did a couple of days ago.

WiredSpirit-Good question! I think sometimes we get so tied up in our own viewpoint that we forget that the person on the other side has their own experiences and viewpoints and while we don't agree with them, they are certainly entitled to their viewpoint. I read something this weekend that really helps me at times and I'll pass it on, maybe it will came in handy for you sometime. I was reading about how we are made in the image of God, all men and women. Not just me, but everyone. Even that person that I am arguing with. They have worth because God created them, just as he created me. Now, I may not agree with them, but that doesn't mean that they are any less or deserve any less than I do. God loves them. I need to treat them as such. Which might mean toning down my retorts or replies. I don't have to change my opinion, but I can express it in a more loving manner. I can pray for the person I am arguing or disagreeing with. And not one of those "Lord, show them where they are wrong" prayers, but "If I am wrong, please show me" and "How can I help the other person to see my viewpoint without alienating them in the process?" I hope those of those suggestions help.

This conversation comes up often with my mother. My mom works for a law firm, and she shares a different political view then the majority of the people (partners) in the firm. Her political party is ofter ridiculed and put down while she really has no defense because she is a secretary and her job has been threatened if she were to basically stand up and speak her mind. I feel that is so unfair. While the "powers that be" are certainly entitled to their opinions, the last time I looked this was America and we had the right to have a differing opinion. However, in some places that just isn't the case.

[Kokopelli]

This is off-topic... but what in world is this "health bar" near the avatar, something related to posting frequency?

[wvmtnkid]

I think so Kokopelli. I noticed this morning when I came on, mine was 80/100. When I started posting, it went up to 100/100. So that is my guess. I haven't found anything official on it has of yet. Hopefully something will be posted about it soon! :)

[Celticflower]

This is off-topic... but what in world is this "health bar" near the avatar, something related to posting frequency?
Yup, that's what it is. I just read about it under support. You need to average 7 posts per day to keep health at 100%. Stupid idea in my opinion.

Celtie

[ClementofRome]

I say that one healthy, thoughtful and well spoken post per day is worth 20 "dittos."

:)

[Kokopelli]

Yeah, I just posted my "humble opinion" on the matter in Erwin's thread. Also disabled it in the profile. :D

[wvmtnkid]

lol. :D You guys beat me to it. I was going to post the link. There wasn't anything earlier when I looked.

[Kokopelli]

lol. :D You guys beat me to it. I was going to post the link. There wasn't anything earlier when I looked.

Based on what he said, he might disable it altogether. Though I probably came off as a pettifogger when I posted. :D

[SandyLou]

Yes, there's an Official Poll. . .altho as I type this, the Make It Optional vote is beginning to catch up with the DITCH IT factor.

I voted DITCH IT.

How did you "disable it"?

--SandyLou

[SandyLou]

Just thinking about the Kathy Troccoli song. . .
We are a family whose hearts are blazing
We raise our candles and light up the sky
Praying to our Father, "In the name of Jesus
Make us a beacon in darkest times!"

Carry your candle, run to the darkness
Seek out the helpless, deceived and poor
Hold out your candle for all to see it
Take your candle and go light your world.

C'mon. . .let's go!http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/OLA.gif

[WesleyJohn]

I consider that a Chris Rice song...

Only because I like his version better, and it's what's playing on the radio up here!

I love that song...

WJ

[SandyLou]

http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/blush1.gif
I was listening to the kathy Troccoli version on the radio as I was posting -
TOTALLY wasn't thinking about it!
YES! Chris Rice wrote it and so (in my opinion too!)
does a better presentation.
If only more of us listened to the words behind it. . . . . :sigh:
We candle holders have to do what we can
to bring THE light to others

[WesleyJohn]

Did Chris Rice write it too? I didn't know that. He wrote a lot of music before he started recording then... wow.

WJ

[SandyLou]

yes. talented guy. and seems very down to earth from the couple interviews I've heard. (love "Questions for Heaven" *giggle*)

[cat has felt the light!]

woah :eek: I was away for two weeks and look what happened, u guys just typed loadsa posts. Its been an amazingly spiritual two weeks, I must now announce tho that I am soon to be leaving home! next weekend in fact and there is no internet there so visits to the site will be very few indeed :cry: , but try not to forget me in ur prayers in fact prayers about my big move would be very much appreciated!!!! :prayer: love u all :groupray:
C@ xx

[dsdumpling]

:prayer: for you Cat

[cat has felt the light!]

thankyou and bless u my child
c@
p:s: not meaning that ur a child or anything :eek:

[dsdumpling]

thankyou and bless u my child
c@
p:s: not meaning that ur a child or anything :eek:
No offense taken sweetie...I'm a child of the King :amen:

[cat has felt the light!]

:amen:
C@ xx

[SandyLou]

Its been an amazingly spiritual two weeks, I must now announce tho that I am soon to be leaving home! next weekend in fact and there is no internet there so visits to the site will be very few indeed :cry: , but try not to forget me in ur prayers in fact prayers about my big move would be very much appreciated!!!! :prayer: love u all :groupray:
C@ xx


Where are you off to, Cat? Is this a permanent move? :groupray: joining with The Order in praying for God's Will in your life.

--SandyLou

[WesleyJohn]

:prayer: May the Lord bless you and keep you. :prayer:

[cat has felt the light!]

well what I'm about to say may be a little controversial, I am moving halfway across the country in order to live with my partner and his mum. I shall have my own room, or else for obvious reasons it wouldn't be possible, but this also means a greater chance of better worship more frequently (if u would like to know why please ask). Alex and I have been together for over 2 years now but the distance is very hard to overcome at times and we feel stronger and better equipped to face lifes difficulties when we are together. I shall be staying there for a year and then going to uni somewhere else next year, to study psychology.
I spent last week at Alex's house trying to decorate my room and spending quiet time with God, also went for a job interview and got the job!!!
I feel that God is with me in this move Dawn, Alex's mum is a devout christian and actually is one of the only people I can turn to at the moment for spiritual guidance and support, we went to church together last week and spent alot of time praying to God about this move and we are sure we have both had the same confirmation that it is right for me to be there! if u want to hear more about the reasons why we are both so sure feel free to ask I shall not be at all offended. Thankyou sooo much for the prayers I'm very very excited because everything is coming together so well!!!
I love u all,
C@ xx

[SandyLou]

sent you a PM. . . . . ;)

[cat has felt the light!]

thanx for the pm sandylou, it meant alot to me and made me feel warm and fuzzy.
C@ xx

[Gwynne]

I'm fairly new here, but I love the idea of your group and I've bid on a candle in the auction to donate to your cause :D

[Gwynne]

I won the candle :D So who do I give it to.

[WesleyJohn]

Gwynne...do you have a candle yourself?

If not, as Silver Knight of the Order, I formally offer you an invitation to join our group!

If you do, then find someone you think would be worthy of induction and invite them to join us!

Grace and Peace,

WJ

[wvmtnkid]

Hi Gwynne! :wave:

My thoughts are that since you are a Methodist, why don't you keep the candle and become a member of the order! Consider this your personal invitation, we would love to have you join us!

:hug:'s and :prayer:'s for you Cat! I hope things will work well for your move.

[cat has felt the light!]

:prayer: thankyou :hug:
c@ xx

[Celticflower]

Sorry I haven't been around much the past few days, I have been working on a prayer shawl for the secretary at church. She was diagnosed with diabetes 2 weeks ago, then with breast cancer last week. Luckily it was small and non-invasive so she should be ok. Anyway, I have the shawl done except for the fringe, and I can't do that until my husband gets home tonight. I had thought I had a skein of the yarn and color I'm using in my stash, but I was wrong. So wonderful hubby is picking me up a skein of the right stuff today.

I hope to do the fringe in time for my daughter to take the shawl with her to youth group and give to Sam who will pass it on to Carrie who heads up a prayer ministry. This group will be responsible for knotting the fringe, each knot representing one prayer that is said for Patsy (the secretary).

So that is what I have been up to in the real world. How about you guys and gals?

Celtie

[Gwynne]

Gwynne...do you have a candle yourself?

If not, as Silver Knight of the Order, I formally offer you an invitation to join our group!

If you do, then find someone you think would be worthy of induction and invite them to join us!

Grace and Peace,

WJ

I accept :D Guess that means I should get more candles to induct others!

[wvmtnkid]

/me thinks that WesleyJohn types faster than she does......;)

Welcome to the order Gywnne! :wave:

Celtie, what a wonderful idea! You come up with some of the most thoughtful things. I love the idea of the knots representing prayers said on behalf of someone.

[cat has felt the light!]

welcome to Gwynee, may the Lord guide you in your good work for the order!! :prayer: I would like to say a quick prayer for celtie's friend
:prayer: Lord please be with celtie's friend at this particularly difficult time in her life, may celtie's kind work and fantastic ideas be well used in the ministry and may u please help all of celtie's friends family and friends, including celtie at this hard time through their faith in you, give them guidance and reassurance and love everlasting,
Amen :amen:
love ya celtie,
C@ xx

[SandyLou]

Welcome Gwynne!

[SandyLou]

:prayer: I would like to say a quick prayer for celtie's friend
:prayer: Lord please be with celtie's friend at this particularly difficult time in her life, may celtie's kind work and fantastic ideas be well used in the ministry and may u please help all of celtie's friends family and friends, including celtie at this hard time through their faith in you, give them guidance and reassurance and love everlasting,
Amen :amen:
love ya celtie,
C@ xx

joining with c@ in prayer. . . thanking God for Celtie and her works and for Patsy, that His glory be seen thru this trial. :amen:

[kelco]

Welcome Gywenne! Glad to have you here!

[kelco]

:prayer: cat! Hope that everthing goes well for you and may God richly bless you in everthing you do.

[Celticflower]

Thanks for the prayers gang! I will knot them into the shawl if you don't mind.

Celtie

[cat has felt the light!]

thankyou kelco, and thankyou and your welcome celtie!
C@ xx

[SandyLou]

. . .. I will knot them into the shawl if you don't mind.

Celtie


I can't speak for the others. . . but I'm honored to now be a small part of the prayer shawl!
thank YOU, Celtie - for all the sweet caring things you do!

[overnight]

Hey its me its me. I know I have not been around for a long time but Tings have been kinda wierd lately with the comps at work being down and I have been extra busy but the overnight of the order is back.

[bigsierra]

It's good to have you back, overnight. :wave:

Sorry to hear of your computer probs. They can be such a pain sometimes.

[ClementofRome]

Welcome back overnight...I just had a crash meself! Fortunately, I recovered all critical data! :) Technology....a love/hate relationship!

[wvmtnkid]

Hi overnight and ClementofRome! :wave: Glad that you have joined us once more! Computers are great, when they are working! The biggest problem my computer has is it's operator! :P

[Gwynne]

Hi overnight and ClementofRome! :wave: Glad that you have joined us once more! Computers are great, when they are working! The biggest problem my computer has is it's operator! :P


^_^ That's my grandmother's problem ;) She lives in my backyard during the summer and goes to Florida in the winter. She just bought a new laptop last year. Calls me from hundreds of miles away to explain how to fix the printer because it won't print.... "Grandma... is it plugged in?"

[overnight]

the main comp at work is down again good thing they used a laptop from on campus or I would have had a slow weeked.

[kelco]

Thanks for the prayers gang! I will knot them into the shawl if you don't mind.

Celtie
That'd be a great honor! Thanks and prayers Celtie.

[gnombient]

Hi everyone, been a while since I visited... I still have my candle, but now that it's pasted into my sig I wonder-- should I pass it on? I feel I should... Do I need approval of the High Council of the Order before passing it along?

[wvmtnkid]

I don't think you need approval! :) Go forth and multiply! Well, you know what I mean.....:D

[jangnim]

Grace and Peace fellow warriors in the Love of Christ. WJ do you need more blessings for candle control? I could spare a tithe.

Thanks for the Light

[SandyLou]

Welcome to The Order Jangnim!
We look forward to you sharing the light!

[macspetra]

:clap:


HAPPY BIRTHDAY wvmtnkid!!!!!
:clap:

[WesleyJohn]

Greetings fellow Candlers...

I must confess that I have been rather occupied of late. I trust all members are doing their best to spread the light of love in these parts.

May each of our posts demonstrate "Truth in Love" and the Grace which God freely offers. Indeed, may we each be a re-presentation of Christ in these parts.

WJ

[SandyLou]

:amen:

[cat has felt the light!]

I'm visiting my parents, just thought I'd let u know that moving in with Alex has done me the world of good! I have been very happy to accept my responsibilities and love the independence, working every other weekend is a bit of a drag but having a job in which I feel so comfortable and such lovely people to work with is a real blesssing!
hope you are all well,still loving you,
C@ xx

[jangnim]

:amen:
Back at you. :amen:

[SandyLou]

I've been re-reading some of John Wesley's and diaries lately. . . . .loved this line. Something to strive for and live by.

"No, sir. I am always in haste, but never in a hurry. I never undertake more than I can do with perfect calmness of spirit." – John Wesley

[WesleyJohn]

I've been re-reading some of John Wesley's and diaries lately. . . . .loved this line. Something to strive for and live by.

"No, sir. I am always in haste, but never in a hurry. I never undertake more than I can do with perfect calmness of spirit." – John Wesley
That's a wonderful quote. Something to strive for. I fear that I too often take on too much and get overwhelmed... That's great wisdom.

Grace and Peace,

WJ

[SandyLou]

That's a wonderful quote. Something to strive for. I fear that I too often take on too much and get overwhelmed... That's great wisdom.

Grace and Peace,

WJ


I'm RIGHT there with you, WJ! My primary spiritual gift is that of service / helps - and I often overload my calendar, getting pulled in a gazillion directions. I think that's why that quote jumped out at me.

His hands & feet,
SandyLou

[Vi]

Hi, forgive me for posting here with questions, but I lost the email inviting me to join when I first signed up. I'm still fairly new and learning my way around... but I really love this place and I'm stayin'... someone please give me some information. Thanks

[wvmtnkid]

Hi virakech! :wave: Of course you are welcome to stay! :hug: What kind of info are you looking for? Info about the Order?

[SandyLou]

Hi, forgive me for posting here with questions, but I lost the email inviting me to join when I first signed up. I'm still fairly new and learning my way around... but I really love this place and I'm stayin'... someone please give me some information. Thanks


Hi Virakech! that was me, inviting you. It's awesome to see you here!

[jangnim]

Blessings to all.

Can anyone tell me where to get a really detailed and reasonably accurate biography of John Wesley? I really want to know the founder better.

[Adammi]

I really don't get the details but sounds WONDERFUL!!!

[SandyLou]

hello?
http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/misc/47.gif
anyone here?

[Celticflower]

Over here :wave: I've been sitting in the corner crocheting. Trying to get Christmas gifts done.


Celtie

[SandyLou]

Celtie - what a blessing you are to soooooo many! Those fingers of yours are always flying!

[herev]

I'm still here, just do more looking than posting the order of the candle. God bless you all

[jangnim]

Just checking in here. Blessings everyone, may our Lord shine forth in our lives today.

[ClementofRome]

PRAYER REQUEST

Today, the brother of one of my best friends died of a heart attack (45years old) while at the gym working out. The family is simply at wits end. Additionally, I learn that another friend is in the hospital after a drug overdose (44 years old) and may not make it....on life support. He had moved to the other side of the state a few years ago and I never even knew he had an addiction problem. I say him back in August and he looked worn out, but I do too! I go back with all of these folks 23 years, and they knew each other as well.

Not been a good day for my old cliq. Pray for these two families. Not having their permission, I must leave them anonymous. God knows who they are.

Thanks for the prayers.
C of R

[SandyLou]

:prayer:

[WesleyJohn]

:prayer:

[jangnim]

:crossrc: :crossrc:

[loveall]

C of R, I am praying too.

Hi everyone. New member of the Order here, let's spread the love and grace!

[SandyLou]

. . .Hi everyone. New member of the Order here, let's spread the love and grace!


Welcome LoveAll!

[SandyLou]

PRAYER REQUEST

Pray for these two families. Not having their permission, I must leave them anonymous. God knows who they are.

Thanks for the prayers.
C of R

CofR - any update? continuing to hold your friends and their families up in prayer :prayer:

[WesleyJohn]

C of R, I am praying too.

Hi everyone. New member of the Order here, let's spread the love and grace!
Welcome to the Order! Shine forth thy candle!

Grace and Peace,

The Silver Knight

[ClementofRome]

CofR - any update? continuing to hold your friends and their families up in prayer :prayer:
Thank you so much for asking. I have been hesitant to update due to the fact that there are conflicting reports and would not want to misinform. One report is that he is now somewhat responsive and will make a full recovery. Another report is that it is more serious than that. I tend to believe the second report, but am not jumping the gun. At any rate, it appears that his life is no longer in danger at present, but that there could be some permanent damage. Just waiting to see.

God bless you all,
CofR

[SandyLou]

whichever is the closest to the truth. . .God can use the situation. Continuing to :prayer:

[ClementofRome]

whichever is the closest to the truth. . .God can use the situation. Continuing to :prayer:
Thank you very much SandyLou!

[loveall]

I am praying as well. May you have a blessed Advent, and may God watch over you and yours.

[ClementofRome]

UPDATE:

He has come home. It was an amazing recovery as all early indications were that it would be a lengthy and painful recovery. His mind is beginning to clear up an as for his health he is almost out of the woods. He is able to recognize folks and his communication skills are returning slowly.

It is a blessing. I thank you all for the prayers. I hope and trust that this episode changes his life....and that God will make Himself a reality to that family.

[SandyLou]

what WONDERFUL news!

yes, this IS a turning point for him - praying he makes a RIGHT turn.

thanks for updating us CofR

[ClementofRome]

THIS JUST IN...A BOOK RECOMMENDATION:

The Valley of Vision is a collection of Puritan prayers and devotionals that is really making a difference in my life. This is powerful stuff...not for the timid! :)

Just had to share this:
http://www.banneroftruth.org/pages/home.php

Also available on Amazon.
Blessings to you all.
C of R

[loveall]

How are everyone's Christmas preparations going? I love advent :)

[jangnim]

How are everyone's Christmas preparations going? I love advent :)
Very quiet this year. All children are gone, grandchildren won't be home. But the joy of Jesus is still in our hearts. Thanks for asking.

[SandyLou]

Luke 1:30-33
And the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end."

Rejoice!

[Celticflower]

How are everyone's Christmas preparations going? I love advent :)
Well, all the "must be done by Christmas" crocheting is finished, all gifts that needed purchased have been, I have 25 snowflakes drying and waiting for their smiley faces (for son's school party), I "scarfed" a family of 8 on Sunday (ie--gave each one a scarf for no apparent reason) and mailed out all my cards. Now I just need to pack everything into the van on Friday, along with clothing for 4 for a 10 day trip, take son to Bible Bowl, followed by lunch with friends before heading to PA.

Side note--please pray for nice weather on the 21st and 24th. My husband and 2 of his brothers will be flying to and from Idaho on those dates. They are going to visit their father who has end stage cancer. Thanks.

Celtie

[SandyLou]

Celtie, you're amazing! It's a privilege to pray for your family :prayer:

[wvmtnkid]

Wow! I was wore out just reading Celtie's post! What a beautiful heart you have, Celtie. Have a great trip and a joyous Christmas! :hug:

Will pray as you have requested!

[Celticflower]

Just letting you all know we are back home safe and sound! Unfortunately one of our cats has disappeared. We are afraid our indoor cat slipped out for some reason (she usually avoids the thought of going out). Tiger (the cat) is my son's pet. We hope that a neighbor has taken her in and we can get her back soon.

Celtie

[alaurie]

allye tiptoes back into the fellowship of the Order of the Candle and asks can she try carrying it once again? She's now refreshed and ready to spread love and light throughout the forums.

[Celticflower]

Just a quick update on the missing cat (for the animal lovers in the group). Turns out she was hiding under the house, in the crawl space. It took a day and a half to get her to come close enough to be caught. She has lost a little weight (we do not know how long she was out) but other than that she is fine. In fact, she is sitting on the desk enjoying a bath as I type this. But she seems to have lost her "yarn ettiquette". She used to leave it alone as I crocheted, now she wants to play with it (ICK!! wet yarn!!). Oh well.


Celtie

[SandyLou]

*giggle* Sounds like Kitty wants to be near and attached to humans again! ^_^ Glad everything worked out, Celtie! :clap:

[SandyLou]

allye tiptoes back into the fellowship of the Order of the Candle and asks can she try carrying it once again? She's now refreshed and ready to spread love and light throughout the forums.


Welcome back Allye!
;) You DO spread love & light wherever you go!
Nice to see you again

[alaurie]

Welcome back Allye!
;) You DO spread love & light wherever you go!
Nice to see you again


Thank you! Although I know haven't always :( . Will give it another go :)

[ClementofRome]

Have you all sworn off of CF for lent? Not just this tread, but the entire Naz/Meth/Wes forum???

Good grief, Charlie Brown!?

[Celticflower]

CoR-

I've noticed it has been quiet lately. I know some people have been busy with other things (;) herev), and some of us have been fighting off colds and flu and other ailments. Me--I've been helping my husband track down non-paying customers. Kinda puts me in a foul mood which I try not to inflict on my friends here.

Celtie

[SandyLou]

Whew!
I thought i was the ONLY one thinking. . .
where IS everyone?????


glad to hear I'm not alone in that thought. . . .

[ClementofRome]

Ahhhhh, there is life out there! :)

Just waiting for springtime here...won't be long now.....then I may be incommunicado! :)

[SandyLou]

. . . Me--I've been helping my husband track down non-paying customers. Kinda puts me in a foul mood which I try not to inflict on my friends here.[/b]

Celtie


Celtie -
my heart goes out to you! I used to work in the collections dept of a bank, mostly with car loans. . . . ..you see the best and (mostly) the worst of people. It CAN get to you if you aren't VERY careful.

:hug: :hug: Celtie :hug: :hug:

[loveall]

It's the busy college life keeping me away, but I have returned.

[Piano Player]

Still out here but in new job for ast 6 months.

[Celticflower]

Celtie -
my heart goes out to you! I used to work in the collections dept of a bank, mostly with car loans. . . . ..you see the best and (mostly) the worst of people. It CAN get to you if you aren't VERY careful.

:hug: :hug: Celtie :hug: :hug:



SandyLou-

Luckily my part in the process is just on paper. What gets to me is seeing how much some of the people owe. I can usually ignore that number unless I have to fill out the skip trace forms. Usually I just need the address off the receipt.
Today a got to do a good letter. A customer needed his account history and last receipt. He had bought a lot of stuff in the past year and his balance was 0!!!!! (I like guys like that!)

Kids are home today, so not a lot of housework will get done. I have a class to get ready for tomorrow (teaching 3rd - 5th graders to crochet) and there is always something in the yarn basket to work on. Three more rounds and my angel doily will be done!

Celtie

[SandyLou]

http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/nature/21.gifI'll be taking a group of 35 youngsters fishing Saturday. . . .normally my area of giftedness is with teens, not young'uns. . . . so hopefully I will be able to have patience and be a light to them.



ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. . . .don't warn the fish. . . and YES. . . we are practicing catch-n-release with barbless hooks ;)

[ClementofRome]

hummm...let's see....35 youngsters + fishing = chaos! :)

Just kidding! Ya'll have a great time!

[Celticflower]

http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/nature/21.gifI'll be taking a group of 35 youngsters fishing Saturday. . . .

Sounds like fun! Hope you have better luck than we did last year with our 2 kids---the fish won.

Celtie

[SandyLou]

*giggle*
I totally understand THAT!
I tell people that I teach FISHING. . . .not necessarily CATCHING
Fishing is more fun and less clean up work. . . *giggle*

But it's mostly the kids from the church's "neighborhood program" so taking them out into God's creation seems a logical way to expose them to thoughts, ideas and dreams they haev never experienced! And I always manage to learn something from them as well. :doh:

[xhristlives]

peace and goodwill to all my fellow Order of the Candle members. Thank you to Wesley john for his invitation, and please ask me any time help is needed in this most holy of quests...

yours in peace, goodwill & Christ,
corey.d (a.k.a. xhristlives)

[xhristlives]

NB there is a candle currently on auction, seller is noellejoi...

[carmi]

I got one candle from the armory for you. There are more in the armory but it won't let me buy one as long as I have this one.

- Who's keeping them (to whom do I send it?)

Confused but willing to learn:)

[WesleyJohn]

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[kierkegaard214]

Hey everyone, I am a new memeber and happy to be part of teh Order of the Candle, how is everyone?

[WesleyJohn]

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[loveall]

I am quite good, thanks for asking! and welcome!

[WesleyJohn]

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[WesleyJohn]

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[desert_island_1]

I just got invited! Thanks WesleyJohn!

[WesleyJohn]

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[SandyLou]

Welcome desert_island!

[ParaCristo]

Thanks for the Invite WJ.......I will have to read all the threads to catch up!!!!
To God be the Glory

[WesleyJohn]

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[ParaCristo]

actually the irony is.....no but somebody thought I did, not knowing that ParaCristo is spanish for ForChrist and kept sending me skydiving stuff.....so the avatar stuck!

[southrnbygrace]

Thanks so much for the invite, WesleyJohn. :) I'll look forward to more great things to come. I hope I got the candle on my armor correctly.

God Bless,
Becki

[carmi]

Did you know...the order of the candle turns one-year-old this month! Unfortunately, I'll be away at the time, but we ought to have a party!

WJ

Please assure me that you will be back (just on temporary leave of absence :)).

Also:

Let me remind Knights of the Candle that the armory has been restocked, and so now is a great time to invite new members to join us in our quest!

F.Y.I.: I am still keeping a candle. In case the armory is out of stock or somebody does not have enough blessings, post a short message here so and I can deliver

[WesleyJohn]

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[kierkegaard214]

I'm sort of taking a summer sabbatical from CF. During that time, I'll be attending our General Assembly, and going to Quito, Ecuador with ZOEGirl. (And a bunch of other stuff too!)

So, I'm not on staff for June, July, and August. I'm also reducing my online activity, since I'll be traveling quite a bit. Hence, I won't be here when the Order turns 1... :)

Grace and Peace,

WJ

*waves good-bye* have a good time

[SandyLou]

I'm sort of taking a summer sabbatical from CF. During that time, I'll be attending our General Assembly, and going to Quito, Ecuador with ZOEGirl. (And a bunch of other stuff too!)



How wonderful! Is that the mission trip they are planning again for July? Go and spread the LIGHT!!!

[WesleyJohn]

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[Celticflower]

Have a safe and productive trip WJ!

[ParaCristo]

ZOEGirl has gone on several missions trips (or so I'm told). They partner with an organization called "Big World Ventures" that helps them bring people along. Anyone can go on the trip (although it's probably past the deadline now). During the 10 days in July, participants will be involved in church projects, orphanages, retirement homes, etc. They will also help do some street evangelism and help with the major ZOEGirl evangelistic outreach.

I'm actually going as a representive of our Christian Radio Station, and will be calling in (by Satellite Phone) to give updates to the listeners each day.

Thanks for the prayers.

Grace and Peace,

WJ
Have a great time brother!!!!! i wanna hear all about GA when you get back....HeHe

[Try]

Hi I'm going to start posting again after a long time away from CF. I hope that this time I'll post more then lurk.

[Henaynei]

Welcome back :D :wave:

[ozman]

Count me in...

[cat has felt the light!]

hi guys, hows everyone I havent bin on 4 nearly a year so if anyone wants to give me a quick recap as to anyfing I may ave missed pls do so lols,
luv ya xxxxxxxxx kitten xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[SandyLou]

CAT!!!!!
how are you???

This place is pretty deserted without you! Hope all is well with you!

--SandyLou

[cat has felt the light!]

my boyfriend and I now live alone, in a big city called Leeds! its kinda scary lols. I now go to uni, I started about 2 or 3 weeks back and its good to have the friends that I have there (well most of them anyway....but thats another story), it is kind of stressful but I feel well prepared for it. I missed you all very much, your guidance and support is amazing, cant believe how many of the same ppl are still here really lols!
anyways, I best be off for now, dont want to hog the forum lols!
kitten xxx

[cat has felt the light!]

anybody here, anybody :wave: what happened to all the party's we used to have :cool: , the gorup hugs :groupray: and prayers :prayer: u no...the good times?, dont u love me anymore :cry: .
cat xxx

[SandyLou]

Hey Cat! without you, WesleyJohn, and Dumpling, this thread has, sadly :( , gone cold.

WooooHOOOO! Enrolled at uni? Very cool!
What happened to the boyfriend's mom? Did that not work out?
Sounds like things are going well for you! Good for you! :hug: I miss you anyway! :hug:

[Celticflower]

Hey Cat! without you, WesleyJohn, and Dumpling, this thread has, sadly :( , gone cold.



What has happened to our fearless leaders anyhow?:confused:

Here Cat-- just for you :groupray:

[SandyLou]

~sandylou jumping into :groupray: group hug :groupray: for Cat~

[cat has felt the light!]

well hey, at least u gals are still here, maybe the others are just taking a break...u know. we can bring back the party times!
woohoo *singing.. celebrate good times come on.
Alex's mum now lives in Derby and we live in leeds thats about an hour and a half away! she has also just started at uni, tho illness has meant she's been in hospital for over a week now :( but shes a fantastic lady and I'm praying for her :pray: that this isnt going to be too big a problem with regards to the rest of her life. She's a good lady, tho confused, (arent we all from time to time) and she loves God with all her love. :amen:
so ok, lets discuss something here! any ideas welcome?!!
take care,
c@ xxxx
thanx celtie :groupray:

[cat has felt the light!]

okay, I wouldnt normally do this I'm not sure if I even should but please can I draw your attention to a post in prayer requests called,
Please pray for our dear member Im-Revived, it is really urgent that you read atleast some of this thread and I ask that if u havent already please please remember her in your prayers, I'm really worried in case she is thinking of doing the worst and think that she needs everyone she can at this time. Sorry if it feels like I am guilt tripping u into this at all, I dont mean to, I am worried!
please help,
yours prayerfully,
kitten xxxx

[SandyLou]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh Cat! What a blessing you are to so many.
Keep sharing that LIGHT of yours. http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/misc/47.gif

[kelco]

Hi all!! It's been a really long time since I have been in here. I passed my candle along a while back but I think I was one of the original members way back when...

[Penguin50388]

Howdy, Just letting all of the other Order members know I'm still alive and kicking. :)

Sorry I haven't posted in so long, but lifes been busy :)

[cat has felt the light!]

things are tuff at the moment, I cant really explain why...its all too much to put into words...maybe some of my order friends cud say a lil prayer for me! Gud to hear that penguin...gud to hear there are more than 3 members still here lols xxxx :thumbsup:

[Penguin50388]

things are tuff at the moment, I cant really explain why...its all too much to put into words...maybe some of my order friends cud say a lil prayer for me! Gud to hear that penguin...gud to hear there are more than 3 members still here lols xxxx :thumbsup:

:prayer:

[cat has felt the light!]

thankyou so very much penguin.
C@ xx

[SandyLou]

things are tuff at the moment, I cant really explain why...its all too much to put into words...maybe some of my order friends cud say a lil prayer for me!


:groupray: ~*~Order of the Candle gathers to lift Cat in prayer~*~ :groupray:

and of course, Sandylou continues in prayer :prayer: for her friend across the pond ;)

It's all gonna work out, Cat. It's all working for God.

[cat has felt the light!]

:groupray: ~*~Order of the Candle gathers to lift Cat in prayer~*~ :groupray:

and of course, Sandylou continues in prayer :prayer: for her friend across the pond

It's all gonna work out, Cat. It's all working for God.


:hug: :cry:
tryin to keep ma chin up doll, thankyou for your support!
kitten xxx

[Celticflower]

joining the others in prayers for Cat and each other.:prayer:

[cat has felt the light!]

Lord this day, I want to say, thankyou for giving me such friends as these! Lord thankyou for listening to me, I need to listen to you... I need to know ur will for me lord, please continue ur work within me, the pain is getting unbearable now :amen:

[charvel]

Yes,am praying for you Cat. In need of prayer for my Dad right now.He has suffered a light heartattack,now hospitalized and they are watching him for another.This is stressful even more so because I have not seen him for over a year.

[cat has felt the light!]

Big prayers for your dad brother! and for you and your family in your hard times! :prayer:
isnt God amazing though?!!! he can do the most powerful things with the least powerful people!
luv u guys!!!
amen xxx

[Penguin50388]

So, what's happening with my other Order Members? Can we get an update on the prayer requests? How's your problem Cat? is it any better?

Charvel, is your dad doing any better?

Both of you and your families are still in my prayers. :prayer:

[cat has felt the light!]

ok penguin, here goes, God has helped me through most of the hard times, there's still some heart fixing to do and I've got to remember to keep him involved in that...because otherwise my attempts at helping myself become kind of futile! lols, but thanks to all of you lovely brothers and sisters in christ, I am coping much better now! ur prayers were answered and continue to be so as were mine, thankyou very very much I hold you all in my heart as very very special friends :groupray:
C@ xxx

[Penguin50388]

ok penguin, here goes, God has helped me through most of the hard times, there's still some heart fixing to do and I've got to remember to keep him involved in that...because otherwise my attempts at helping myself become kind of futile! lols, but thanks to all of you lovely brothers and sisters in christ, I am coping much better now! ur prayers were answered and continue to be so as were mine, thankyou very very much I hold you all in my heart as very very special friends :groupray:
C@ xxx

That's awesome, you're still in my prayers and if you need to talk send me a PM :) .

[cat has felt the light!]

anyway whats goin on with anyone else? where is everyone?, anything exciting happen to anyone recently? what are you all doing for christmas? It'll be upon us soon, yaaaaaaaaaay I really cant wait! :clap:
C@ xxxx

[Celticflower]

Christmas??I'm trying to get thru Thanksgiving! DH decided we were going to PA to spend Turkeyday with the families. Actual travel plans have changed 3 times so far. At the moment it looks like I will be getting up at 4 AM on Thursday for an 8 hour drive (luckily dinner with my family isn't until 5:30pm). Dinner with his family is on Saturday.

Christmas, thank goodness, will be spent at home with just the 4 of us.

[cat has felt the light!]

Christmas??I'm trying to get thru Thanksgiving! DH decided we were going to PA to spend Turkeyday with the families. Actual travel plans have changed 3 times so far. At the moment it looks like I will be getting up at 4 AM on Thursday for an 8 hour drive (luckily dinner with my family isn't until 5:30pm). Dinner with his family is on Saturday.

Christmas, thank goodness, will be spent at home with just the 4 of us.


wowsers, I 4got u guys had thanksgiving, strange English girl question, I know some of the things behind thanksgiving but I dont know...do u guys give presents on thanksgiving? for christmas Alex and I are having brekfast here, just the 2 of us and swapping pressies and cards, then driving to my parents...about an hour and a half away, staying for the rest of the day and over night then the next day going to suffolk about four hours, to see his family and staying for a few nights then back to see my grandparents and a buffet (yum) and finally home, for work on New years day!...but I still cant beat an 8 hour stint phew, thats gonna wear ya out! :sleep:
take care, anyone else?!
C@ xxx
p:S its ma birthday on the 12th Dec I'm so excited.....

[Penguin50388]

Most people don't give presents on thanksgiving, but I have heard of some people doing so.

My Grandparents are comming up for thanksgiving so I'll be spending it with them.

Christmas is rather busy for me. I'll be working a good bit around it (raising money for mission trips and college), I'm performing in a Christmas musical at my Church and then I'm singing in a Christmas cantada with the "adult" choir. A couple days before Christmas I'm heading down to stay with my cousin and her hubby in Fl. And then spending Christmas day with both sides of the family (morning with mom's afternoon/evening with dad's). Then back home to start on the next musical I'm in. :)

[cat has felt the light!]

phew, another busy one eh? I quite like the busyness of it all tho! its exciting!!!
lols
C@ xxx

[Penguin50388]

phew, another busy one eh? I quite like the busyness of it all tho! its exciting!!!
lols
C@ xxx

I do get rather bored when there is nothing to do, but sometimes there is just too much work.

Hey ya'll, hows about we start recruiting for the Order again, when WJ gets back I think he would be proud if we had some serious numbers. :)

[cat has felt the light!]

I do get rather bored when there is nothing to do, but sometimes there is just too much work.

Hey ya'll, hows about we start recruiting for the Order again, when WJ gets back I think he would be proud if we had some serious numbers. :)


ok I'm up for that, when is he due back? got anyone in mind?!
C@ xx

[Penguin50388]

ok I'm up for that, when is he due back? got anyone in mind?!
C@ xx

I'm not sure when he's due back, but I'll go try to find out.

And I don't have too many people in mind, but I'm looking. :)

[cat has felt the light!]

I'm nearly 20 can u believe it? I know I dont act it lols, but I've decided I've still got to be a teenager, so instead I'm going to be twenteen lols
hope y'all are good?
C@ xx

[Celticflower]

Happy Birthday Cat! Sometimes I wish I was 20 again! (then my back wouldn't hurt). And remember--growing older is mandatory, growing old is not.

[Hediru]

So, I've been reading some of the posts here. How can I get inducted into this order?

[Penguin50388]

So, I've been reading some of the posts here. How can I get inducted into this order?

The way that a person gets inducted into the Order is an existing member notices you portraying one of the attributes we look for in posters. They will then send you a PM of induction, and either they, or one of the Candle Holders will bless you with a Candle. And that's it. The order is close to dying out right now... but I am about to try to re-amp it with any existing members who are willing to help, so go make some good posts and if an Order member notices you, you might be inducted, but there might not be any inductions for a month or so, depending on how long it takes to get the Order back on it's feet.

[Penguin50388]

Let's get this Order going again! Any existing members who want to help are more than welcome to.

First, we need to decide on a leader (be it permanent or Interim, they will discuss with WesleyJohn when/if he comes back).
Next, we need to get the existing Order Members back.
Thirdly, find the Candle Holders (who has them)
Lastly, invite more people and spread the ideals of the Order over CF (Peace, Love, Harmony, all good stuff :P )


Any existing Order Member willing to be leader post by Jan. 14th that you will be willing and then I will make a poll in an undisclosed location (I have some forums that aren't really forums (I'm the only member and they aren't really about anything) and I'll make the poll there so as to not have people who are not in the order mess up the vote) for the Order Members to Vote.

All existing Order Members, please post in this thread so I can send you the PM with the voting place.

I would be willing to be an interim leader until WJ shows back up or I ship out for basic.

[ParaCristo]

I am an Existing member.......Great idea!!!!Penguin!!!!...count me in to help!!!

[Celticflower]

I'm a member (but I don't feel called to be a leader)

[Penguin50388]

So, the way I read this is I'm the only one who is willing to lead for the present. ParaCristo, you said you'd help, does that mean you would be willing to lead, or that you would help whoever is in charge?

[ParaCristo]

So, the way I read this is I'm the only one who is willing to lead for the present. ParaCristo, you said you'd help, does that mean you would be willing to lead, or that you would help whoever is in charge?I will lead if you don't care to...Or I can help you?....Pm me Penguin and let me know!!!

[cat has felt the light!]

so come on whats goin on with the order? I cud find ppl, but having never recruited anyone before might need sum help doin that bit?
C@ xxxx

[cat has felt the light!]

why aint nobody here, is this really a silence in the order? how come? what happened? anybody still around i cud do wiv prayers from my order sisters and brothers. read my blog if u want to know more, guys? helloooooooooooooo
C@ x

[Celticflower]

Hi Cat :wave: Will be sure to keep you in my prayers. Don't know why this thread is always so quiet. You might want to pray for me--this week is spring break for my kids. Trapped in a house with an 11 yr old, a 13 yr old and a PS2!!! :eek: Oh the horror!!!!;)

[cat has felt the light!]

Hi Cat :wave: Will be sure to keep you in my prayers. Don't know why this thread is always so quiet. You might want to pray for me--this week is spring break for my kids. Trapped in a house with an 11 yr old, a 13 yr old and a PS2!!! :eek: Oh the horror!!!!;)
ur in ma prayers xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[SandyLou]

anybody still around i cud do wiv prayers from my order sisters and brothers. read my blog if u want to know more, guys? helloooooooooooooo
C@ x


continuing to lift you in prayer,Cat!:prayer: :prayer:

[cat has felt the light!]

continuing to lift you in prayer,Cat!:prayer: :prayer:
thankyou for ur prayers, i grow stronger everyday from my heavenly father x
C@ xx

[Plan 9]

thankyou for ur prayers, i grow stronger everyday from my heavenly father x
C@ xx

Greetings, cat has felt the light! I see you're doing the exemplary job I knew you would when I suckered you into--ahem--I meant to say invited to to take my candle and my place in the Order of the Candle.

God bless you! :)

~Planny

[cat has felt the light!]

hey hun,
where've ya been lols, r u gud? thankyou for the complement i think? in what way am i doing a good job?
hope ur well,as ever u r in my prayers and thoughts,
C@ xxx

[Plan 9]

hey hun,
where've ya been lols, r u gud?

I have a job at another internet community, which keeps me very, very busy, especially since I was just given more duties there. As much as I enjoy it, I'm always a day late and a dollar short when it comes to my work there. :doh:

thankyou for the complement i think?

Of course, it's a compliment! :hug:

in what way am i doing a good job?

As always, you're a good example to all and a faithful friend. What more could I ask from a Christian sister who I asked to take my place here that she outstrip me in being both these things, hmm? :)

hope ur well,as ever u r in my prayers and thoughts,
C@ xxx

Thank you, Cat! I especially appreciate your prayers at this time.
May God bless you richly!

I hope everyone here has a blessed Easter!

[charvel]

Good Afternoon Plan9! Charvella(LOL) checking in!

[cat has felt the light!]

:hug: for plan nine.
Hope all is well my hunny. :prayer: for planny.

So how was Easter everyone? mine was fairly uneventful really, but spirit filled none the less. Heard this great preacher who was goin on about Good Friday and he was like (to paraphrase) yes its Friday and its awful and the guards have come to take Jesus but SUNDAY'S COMING! :) and I just keep thinking what a great way to live our lives, cos we know that times are hard now but one day we'll be with him, our sunday is definitely coming!!!
XXXXXxxxXXXXXxxxxXXXXXxxx C@ xx

[overnight]

Hello everyone. I am not sure if there is anyone around who even still rememebrs me. I looked back and the last time I was on was like 2004. Wow, things have sure changed. I knida miss the Final fantasy type figures but the new figures are ok too. Here is a quick synopsis of what has happened in my life. I moved from Iowa back to Kentucky, which I was happy about. Then things kinda went downhill, I have gone from being homeless with my family to now I no longer have a car etc. Well things are starting to look up. I have a good job, my family and I have a place to stay. I have come back to God. We still do not have a car but one step at a time. I am glad to be back and hello all. Please pray for me as I am going through tough times. God Bless

[Morgaine1205]

I'll be praying that God will provide for your family's needs. God Bless!

[aigiqinf]

So how is the "order of the candle"?

[Morgaine1205]

I don't know - I need to go back and read some pages to see what's up with the Order of the Candle - I'd like to be a part of this! :)

[ParaCristo]

I don't know - I need to go back and read some pages to see what's up with the Order of the Candle - I'd like to be a part of this! :)
it seems to be going kinda slowly!!!

howdy though Morgaine

[Morgaine1205]

Greetings ParaCristo! Haven't seen you in awhile! Hope things are well for you!

[ParaCristo]

Things are going well....how about you?

[aigiqinf]

lol

*looks at candle*
Err... I was sent this... but what is the order of the candle?

[Morgaine1205]

Things are going well....how about you?
Things are going great for me! My husband was blessed with a wonderful new job, we had to move to a new city about 2.5 hours away from our old town - and we were also blessed to find a lovely house that we could afford. God is good!

[Morgaine1205]

lol

*looks at candle*
Err... I was sent this... but what is the order of the candle?
Hmm, are there more than one candles out there? Are you the keeper of the flame now? :) Lucky! I promise to read all these pages more so I know what's going on, and we can get this Order going again!

[aigiqinf]

Hmm, are there more than one candles out there? Are you the keeper of the flame now? :) Lucky! I promise to read all these pages more so I know what's going on, and we can get this Order going again!
*Nods like he has some idea about what's going on* :confused::scratch:

[aigiqinf]

I found were you can buy candles. http://www.christianforums.com/cf.php?showshop=29

[nanz2688]

heloo everyone I'm new here God bless everyone

[aigiqinf]

Well welcome

[contriteheart]

heloo everyone I'm new here God bless everyone

Hello nanz2688! :wave:

Welcome to Wesley's Parish! :) I think you'll find that most of the action in our parish at the moment is in the fellowship thread (called the ASA thread). Please feel free stop by and say hello!

-Grace

[aigiqinf]

Yeah, that's been going for a while now...

[ParaCristo]

This thread makes me a bit sad....knowing that My friend WesleyJohn (who started it) is gone...
I wish he would come back!!!

[Celticflower]

This thread makes me a bit sad....knowing that My friend WesleyJohn (who started it) is gone...
I wish he would come back!!!
Me too! I miss him!

[Reborn_in_Christ2003]

Well, it's been awhile, but it's good to be back!

[cristianna]

I didn't even know this thread existed. :scratch: I guess I haven't been all too observant.

I've been learning soooo much about CF these past couple of days. lol I'm amazed at the magnitude of threads and sections!

[SandyLou]

Me too! I miss him!

add me to the list of people missing Wesleyjohn!:(
This Loyal Order of the Candle seemed to extinguish itself without him to fan the embers

[aigiqinf]

This thread makes me a bit sad....knowing that My friend WesleyJohn (who started it) is gone...
I wish he would come back!!!
(Doesn't know who this person is.)

[wmlbrn]

What candle? I'm not sure what everyone is rambling on about. Can someone explain please. :)

[aigiqinf]

What candle? I'm not sure what everyone is rambling on about. Can someone explain please. :)
I've been here for I don't know how long and I still have no idea
what's going on. And I was even sent a candle thing.

[IamProLife]

I don't know anything about this either. I hope someone does explain all of this soon.

[Celticflower]

When CF started with the armory objects to purchase, WesleyJohn came up with the idea of gaining control of all the candles. If you were offered and accepted a candle and inclusion into the "secret club" you were supposed to let your light of love shine here on CF. (ie show love, honesty, compassion, unity etc to other members of CF). It was a for fun type thing that has, alas, fallen by the wayside.

[IamProLife]

Thank you for that explanation.

[contriteheart]

Well, I'm not an order member, but I'm a Methodist with a candle and a strong desire to let my light shine for the glory of God.

Maybe we could resurrect this, not as a secret by-invitiation-only society, but rather as a simple voluntary gathering of those of anyone who wishes to commit to letting their light shine here on CF.

[IamProLife]

I think that would be a good idea.

[aigiqinf]

When CF started with the armory objects to purchase, WesleyJohn came up with the idea of gaining control of all the candles. If you were offered and accepted a candle and inclusion into the "secret club" you were supposed to let your light of love shine here on CF. (ie show love, honesty, compassion, unity etc to other members of CF). It was a for fun type thing that has, alas, fallen by the wayside.
Well I think it was WesleyJohn who sent me the candle when I first joined.

[meganahan]

Well I think it was WesleyJohn who sent me the candle when I first joined.
I'm game for the candle holding, but I guess I'll have to put down my french horn. hmmmmm......and I couldn't hold my tricorder any more. Or my ice cream.

hmmmmmm......

I LOVE Playing dress up here. Maybe we could convince someone to design a special background. I want to promote unity AND play with my toys.

(My inner 6 year old has to come out every now and then)

[Abel1337]

god bless

[jadekap]

haha megan

[aigiqinf]

LOL Do such candles even exist now?

[Zoness]

Probably not, I joined about three months ago and have never heard that concept mentioned.

[aigiqinf]

^
Probably not, I joined about three months ago and have never heard that concept mentioned.

I received a candle from WesleyJohn a very long time ago. I just don't think the armory carries them any more and all items from CF 1.0 were deleted.

[Celticflower]

Actually there is a candle available. Look in the "assorted" file in the Special Items catagory. It isn't the same as the original, but it is a candle none the less.