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yinonyavo
25th June 2004, 03:05 PM
Definitive meaning of the SABBATH

Mt 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Mr 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Lu 6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

07676 tbv shabbath shab-bawth’
intensive from 07673, Greek 4521 sabbaton; TWOT-2323b; n f/m
AV-sabbath 107, another 1; 108
1) Sabbath
1a) sabbath
1b) day of atonement
1c) sabbath year
1d) week
1e) produce (in sabbath year)

07673 tbv shabath shaw-bath’ a primitive root; TWOT-2323, 2323c; v
AV-cease 47, rest 11, away 3, fail 2, celebrate 1, misc 7; 71
1) to cease, desist, rest
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to cease
1a2) to rest, desist (from labour)
1b) (Niphal) to cease
1c) (Hiphil)
1c1) to cause to cease, put an end to
1c2) to exterminate, destroy
1c3) to cause to desist from
1c4) to remove
1c5) to cause to fail




You should see that the meaning of Sabbath and Rest in all these verses is the same.
To REST in Christ is to CEASE from trusting in our WORKS for salvation. When God rested on the 7th day , he DID NOT WORK. When we enter into REST (faith) in JESUS we depend on HIS work of the Cross and quit WORKING for our salvation. So the definitive meaning of the Sabbath or 7th day is to have faith in JESUS for salvation…..this is the meaning of His being the LORD OF THE SABBATH.

Notice that in the NIV, Heb 4:8, the name is Joshua, and in the King James it is Jesus. This is because Jesus is the same name as the Hebrew Joshua. To avoid confusion the newer versions usually use the Hebrew transliteration Joshua, so that we know WHICH Jesus is being spoken of here. But we miss an important type by not realizing the names are the same. Moses represented the LAW or WORKS and therefore God could not let him lead the children of Israel into the LAND because the LAND was a type for FAITH and Salvation in Christ. (Scripture even mentions the reason as being Moses' disobedience) Therefore, JOSHUA (i.e. Jesus) led them into the LAND to make the type conform.



Mt 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest (373).
Mt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest (373) with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

373 anapauw anapauo an-ap-ow’-o from 303 and 3973; TDNT-1:350,56; v
AV-rest 4, refresh 4, take rest 2, give rest 1, take ease 1; 12
3973 pauw pauo pow’-o a root verb ("pause"); ; v
AV-cease 12, leave 2, refrain 1; 15
1) to make to cease or desist
2) to restrain a thing or person from something
3) to cease, to leave off
4) have got release from sin
4a) no longer stirred by its incitements and seductions


Jos 1:13 Remember the word which Moses the servant of the LORD commanded you, saying, The LORD your God hath given you rest, and hath given you this land.
Jos 1:15 Until the LORD have given your brethren rest, as he hath given you, and they also have possessed the land which the LORD your God giveth them: then ye shall return unto the land of your possession, and enjoy it, which Moses the LORD’S servant gave you on this side Jordan toward the sunrising.

05117 xwn nuwach noo’-akh a primitive root; TWOT-1323; v
AV-rest 55, ceased 1, confederate 1, let down 1, set down 1, lay 1, quiet 2, remain 1, set 1; 64


Heb 3:1 (NIV TRANSLATION) 1 Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess.
2 He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in all God’s house.
3 Jesus has been found worthy of greater honour than Moses, just as the builder of a house has greater honour than the house itself.
4 For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything.
5 Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house, testifying to what would be said in the future.
6 But Christ is faithful as a son over God’s house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast.
7 So, as the Holy Spirit says: "Today, if you hear his voice,
8 do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion, during the time of testing in the desert,
9 where your fathers tested and tried me and for forty years saw what I did.
10 That is why I was angry with that generation, and I said, ‘Their hearts are always going astray, and they have not known my ways.’
11 So I declared on oath in my anger, ‘They shall never enter my rest.’"{Psalm 95:7-11}
12 See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.
13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.
14 We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.
15 As has just been said: "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion." {Psalm 95:#7,8}
16 Who were they who heard and rebelled? Were they not all those Moses led out of Egypt?
17 And with whom was he angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the desert?
18 And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed? {Or disbelieved}
19 So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.
1 Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it.
2 For we also have had the gospel preached to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith. {Many manuscripts because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed}
3 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said, "So I declared on oath in my anger, ‘They shall never enter my rest.’"{Psalm 95:11; also in verse 5} And yet his work has been finished since the creation of the world.
4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: "And on the seventh day God rested from all his work." {Gen. 2:2}
5 And again in the passage above he says, "They shall never enter my rest."
6 It still remains that some will enter that rest, and those who formerly had the gospel preached to them did not go in, because of their disobedience.
7 Therefore God again set a certain day, calling it Today, when a long time later he spoke through David, as was said before: "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts." {Psalm 95:#7,8}
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day.
9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his.
11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no-one will fall by following their example of disobedience.

KING JAMES VERSION:
1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
2 Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house. {appointed: Gr. made}
3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house.
4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.
5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) {They…: Gr. If they shall enter}
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. {the word…: Gr. the word of hearing} {not being…: or, because they were not united by faith to}
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: {it was: or, the gospel was}
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. {Jesus: that is, Joshua}
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. {rest: or, keeping of a sabbath}
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. {unbelief: or, disobedience}

2663 katapausiv katapausis kat-ap’-ow-sis from 2664; TDNT-3:628,419;
AV-rest 9; 9
1) a putting to rest
1a) calming of the winds
2) a resting place
2a) metaph. the heavenly blessedness in which God dwells, and of which he has promised to make persevering believers in Christ partakers after the toils and trials of life on earth are ended
2664 katapauw katapauo kat-ap-ow’-o from 2596 and 3973;
3973 pauw pauo pow’-o a root verb ("pause"); ; v
AV-cease 12, leave 2, refrain 1; 15
1) to make to cease or desist
2) to restrain a thing or person from something
3) to cease, to leave off
4) have got release from sin
4a) no longer stirred by its incitements and seductions




Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Ro 3:20 Therefore by the deeds (works) of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Ro 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
Ro 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
Ro 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Ro 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

*** 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

1Co 1:26-29 26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence.


This is also reflected in the making of the Covenant with Abraham regarding FAITH. The covenant was confimed by an OATH (this is repeated in Hebrews). The Hebrew word for OATH is SHEVA which is identical with the word for SEVEN in the Hebrew. Literally God confirmed or "SEVENED" the eternal covenant. Later he even states to Moses that the Sabbath is is token of the COVENANT. Christ is also given as a COVENANT. .......hence SABBATH = SEVENTH = REST = FAITH in CHRIST, rest from our working for our salvation.

07650 shavać shaw-vah’; a primitive root; propr. to be complete, but used only as a denominative from 07651; to seven oneself, i.e. swear (as if by repeating a declaration seven times):— adjure, charge (by an oath, with an oath), feed to the full [by mistake for 07646], take an oath, X straitly, (cause to, make to) swear.

Heb 6:17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
Ge 26:3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
1Ch 16:16 Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac;
Ps 105:9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;
Lu 1:73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

Ex 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Isa 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

visionary
25th June 2004, 04:20 PM
Amen.. you seem to have studied well on the Word SABBATH, it therefore remains a "state of being" with God, set aside, sanctified, hallowed, glorified, blessed, and sealing for all mankind.

Sephania
25th June 2004, 09:45 PM
How does that fit with what Sha'ul said about working out our salvation with fear and trembling?

Brother Owl
25th June 2004, 10:37 PM
I love the idea that Christ is my rest. I sure do need a rest! I sure do need to be carried on this journey and it is good to reflect upon Jesus strength to make up for my weaknesses.

The more I learn of God the more I see there is little I can do but if I simply trust in Him nothing is impossible.

Sephania
26th June 2004, 08:34 AM
But don't be complacent, faith without works is dead, Yeshua's brother said that I believe and He should have known, from what we can see his faith didn't come until after the resurrection of his brother.

debi b
26th June 2004, 01:25 PM
Sooo true Zayit, and we need to hold these concepts in equal measure - there are not at all in conflict!

Brother Owl
26th June 2004, 01:47 PM
I find that I'm not able but He is and He resides in me, He moves and leads, I follow. He goes where I can not and would not were I on my own. He has already won the battle, the work is already complete, if I but accept this truth, there is peace. The more I accept of my own frailty and weakness the more I learn to lean on His strength. His strength is unfailing mine has already failed. But I will not fail so long as I trust in Him who has gone before and follow on the path He's laid down for me.

yinonyavo
27th June 2004, 02:49 PM
You have to finish the verse......work out your salvaton with fear and trembling BECAUSE IT IS For it is GOD WHICH WORKETH IN YOU BOTH TO WILL AND TO DOOF HIS GOOD PLEASURE.

The minute we start trusting in our OWN works to save us, we are out of FAITH. The children of Israel did not have FAITH that GOD WOULD DO IT and were fearful of entering the LAND because they were looking to their OWN ability to do it.... they did not CEASE from their own WORK.

As far as becoming complacent, if the Spirit of Christ is truly in us he WILL work in us both to will and to do his good pleasure, or use chastisement to bring us back into line. When we are born again, our new spirit can no longer desire to sin. Our flesh will, of course, but when the flesh wins a battle, our spirit HATES the sin, and the HS in us will convict and keep us from being complacent about sin. We can not help but struggle against it, for it grieves us(the new man that is) so much to continue in sin.

When we have entered into true FAITH in the finished work of CHRIST, we are living in the SABBATH REST (the real spiritual SABBATH) all the time. We have CEASED from our faith in our own works to accomplish ANYTHING, yet we desire in our new creation to do the will of God, even though we often fail, and we cannot stop trying to be obedient, for that is our new nature to do so. We long to be obedient just because we love him and want to please him, not because we think we can do one thing without him, for Jesus says......:Joh 15:5 "for without me ye can do nothing". This is what I try to remember as the true meaning of the SABBATH....a reminder to not trust in anything but CHRIST to accomplish my salvation.

Sephania
27th June 2004, 03:39 PM
I consider obedience to the commandments to be the "work" of my faith. If I only put forth what seems right in my own eyes..................

Shabbat is a weekly celebration of a cessation of work, however to prepare for that day and to celebrate it properly one must work to please the L-RD. :)

visionary
27th June 2004, 06:03 PM
I consider obedience to the commandments to be the "work" of my faith. If I only put forth what seems right in my own eyes..................

Shabbat is a weekly celebration of a cessation of work, however to prepare for that day and to celebrate it properly one must work to please the L-RD. :)

Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Many people are getting the idea that working in the sense of obedience to the Word of God is evil. They have spiritualize away the good works that are acceptable to the Heavenly Father. They have looked down their nose at anyone who is following the Torah as if it is not valid advice to follow or is done away with and therefore only for the foolish to do. :wave:

John 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

I am like Yeshua, and I ask, "Is there something wrong with doing the things that God has asked from the beginning for us to do?" Do you think that Yeshua would want us to not do the things that the Bible says are for us to do from Mount Sinai?"

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

1 Timothy 5:10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.

2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

So what are the good works that give glory to God. It would be those works that have the Lord of the Bible's signature on it. Things that those around you without you saying a word can point to and say He/She does this because of His faith. They can point to the scriptural commandment and say this is why He/She does this.

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

If they worship the Lord of the Sabbath, their works would reflect this worship. They would stand out as one who worships the creator and redeemer of the universe. They would follow the directions given on how they are so show reverence for their God. :bow:

Titus 2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, 8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you

You may feel that you are standing out by doing things differently, and you do, to the glory of God. He designed the whole pattern of what He considered good works so that you would stand out and be a testamony of following His ways. :bow:

Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

If it were not for you standing out, you would give no opportunity for those watching to ask, why? If you stand ready to witness that all these things that you do are to the glory of God, they that ask may profit by it, and see the glory of God for their own lives and salvation comes by faith, and by faith, you are doing God's will. It is a blessing both for you and your personal relationship with the Lord. It is also a blessing for those around to witness you faithfulness to your Lord, doing the good works, to His glory. :bow:

yinonyavo
28th June 2004, 08:51 AM
Yes, the whole point is not about whether or not to do good works....it is clear that works are a RESULT of salvation. The point is what is our motivation for doing good works...do we remember that they ARE a result NOT a MEANS to salvation???

Henaynei
28th June 2004, 01:08 PM
Yes, the whole point is not about whether or not to do good works....it is clear that works are a RESULT of salvation. The point is what is our motivation for doing good works...do we remember that they ARE a result NOT a MEANS to salvation???By and large MJs as a whole are more accutely aware than most other believers that works are the natural out flow of love of G-d as expressed in obedience ("if you love Me obey My commandments") and NOT a tool of salvation. We obey because we ARE saved, not to acquire slavation :)

yinonyavo
28th June 2004, 01:47 PM
AMEN...and the definitive meaning and symbolism of the Sabbath is a reminder of just that.

debi b
28th June 2004, 02:20 PM
By and large MJs as a whole are more accutely aware than most other believers that works are the natural out flow of love of G-d as expressed in obedience ("if you love Me obey My commandments") and NOT a tool of salvation. We obey because we ARE saved, not to acquire slavation :)

YES! YES! YES! i couldn't have said it better ;)

now where is my little dancing guy - I NEED one!

Shamash Of Yeshua
2nd July 2004, 02:49 AM
By and large MJs as a whole are more accutely aware than most other believers that works are the natural out flow of love of G-d as expressed in obedience ("if you love Me obey My commandments") and NOT a tool of salvation. We obey because we ARE saved, not to acquire slavation :)
Amein

yinonyavo
2nd July 2004, 12:32 PM
The seventh Hebrew letter zayin in the Temple script is written with a crown of three "taggin". Six other letters containing the form of a zayin within them also have the three taggin crown. The taggin itself is said to be a zayin. This is an obvious honor to the Sabbath or "7th".

from "The Tefillin Manual: The New Revised Edition" (1975):

THE CROWNS

The Talmud teaches that 7 regular letters and two final letters are crowned with three tagin. These are shin, zayin, tes, nun, zayin, gimel, and tzadi. All of these letters have as a basic part of their construction, the letter zayin. Indeed, the tagin themselves are so made as to resemble the zayin and are often referred to as "zaynin". There are three forms of tagin in use, the most common is a single dot of ink with a fine line descending from it to rest on the roof of the letter. Other draw the top of the tag like the roof of the letter vov, and still others make simple vertical lines. The tagin on these letters consist of three lines. Some scribes draw all three lines vertical and of equal height, while others draw the middle tag taller then the end ones. These seven letters are adorned with three tagin as opposed to single tagin and points found on other letters.


The Greek word "tittle", keraia {ker-ah'-yah} means "little horn" from the root keras, a horn, which comes from the Hebrew karen (kaf/resh/nun) a horn, or to shine/send out rays. It also means a hill or apex, or point. This is very similar to the meaning for the word root of the word "thorn" as in the Greek for the "crown of thorns". Jesus IS our Sabbath rest. ...and the "crown of thorns" on the "Sabbath" letters, I believe is really honoring Christ and his death which purchased our Sabbath rest..............

Henaynei
2nd July 2004, 01:25 PM
The seventh Hebrew letter zayin in the Temple script is written with a crown of three "taggin". Six other letters containing the form of a zayin within them also have the three taggin crown. The taggin itself is said to be a zayin. This is an obvious honor to the Sabbath or "7th".

from "The Tefillin Manual: The New Revised Edition" (1975):

THE CROWNS

The Talmud teaches that 7 regular letters and two final letters are crowned with three tagin. These are shin, zayin, tes, nun, zayin, gimel, and tzadi. All of these letters have as a basic part of their construction, the letter zayin. Indeed, the tagin themselves are so made as to resemble the zayin and are often referred to as "zaynin". There are three forms of tagin in use, the most common is a single dot of ink with a fine line descending from it to rest on the roof of the letter. Other draw the top of the tag like the roof of the letter vov, and still others make simple vertical lines. The tagin on these letters consist of three lines. Some scribes draw all three lines vertical and of equal height, while others draw the middle tag taller then the end ones. These seven letters are adorned with three tagin as opposed to single tagin and points found on other letters.


The Greek word "tittle", keraia {ker-ah'-yah} means "little horn" from the root keras, a horn, which comes from the Hebrew karen (kaf/resh/nun) a horn, or to shine/send out rays. It also means a hill or apex, or point. This is very similar to the meaning for the word root of the word "thorn" as in the Greek for the "crown of thorns". Jesus IS our Sabbath rest. ...and the "crown of thorns" on the "Sabbath" letters, I believe is really honoring Christ and his death which purchased our Sabbath rest.............. KEWL:D

visionary
2nd July 2004, 01:28 PM
Way Awesome...the deeper you look the more you find Yeshua

Simple amazing.

yinonyavo
2nd July 2004, 04:52 PM
Almost every Jewish source describes the letter ZAYIN as a "vav" with a crown.....the vav is a nail, so that would be a nail with a crown..........with thorns.

The meaning of the word zayin is a sword.....

Eph 6:17 .....and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Christ is the word, i.e. the sword, i.e. the zayin.....the Sabbath

Sephania
3rd July 2004, 08:19 AM
yinoyavo, I appreciate your sharing your teaching here but wouldn't it be better sharing this with other Christians? I think this would be very enlightening to them to learn these Hebrew roots teachings.

May I ask, since you obviously aren't Messianic, but a Christian by wording and icon, do you observe the Shabbat? Or do you believe like most Christians that everyday is a rest "in Jesus"? See most mis-understand the meaning of "Shabbat made for man not man for the Shabbat", and "Resting in Y'shua". Shabbat has always been a memorial to what HaShem did, the creation. And until heaven and earth pass away I dare say it will always be, it was not changed to represent something else 2-000 yrs ago, except for those that wanted nothing to do with "anything Jewish".

I appreciate your studies on the Hebrew letters, but that use of the word "Christ" in here just sets my teeth on edge.