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ewnet
23rd June 2004, 03:26 PM
Before i come to the main subject i would like to invite people to read the following logical point of why we are so divided? is that our wish or Not?

In the name of our Creator as one God for all i do believe and appreciate in advance for christian forum administrators and moderator to allow me this topic to glorify the name of the Lord.

Dear fellow believers and (incase non believers) i have some testimony to share with you that enables you to see the reality of the work of God. There fore to encourage and to show the Love of God for all of us i would like to present my logical introduction as follows:-


We, human beings as a nature didn’t individually determined our beginning or destiny. Let alone the unknown but no one decided to be born in the beginning either from this or the other parents.

And no one decided before time in his mothers womb or in other nature to be born in this land or the other land. No one decided and wanted to be who he (she) is before his birth and still today and in the future but he is who he is and will be anyway. No one decided before time to follow such religion or such idea but he is the follower of what he or she believes in any way.
No one chose to be black or white; red or yellow before his birth etc. or to choose his race what to be or not to be.

What and who knows and able to determine about any individual destiny is the only one who have the Knowledge and the Power of every thing, that is the Living God.

And to understand that mystery
(some one) needs at least the time to live forever.

However, I can try to give you a hint that can help you to realize the power, the love, the mercy, the word, the spirit, the joy and the anger etc. of the Lord that showed me and teach me all this things to witness the Glory of Himself. He is the one who knows about us but we are not able to know about him forever with out his will.

So that, nobody should use the following posted writing by any means to cause any kind of trouble, hate or make any kind of advantage to be against any one. It is just posted for the purpose to glorify the work of God and peace in this present time. Those who read this message and helps the good will of Christ or the Messiah may have the part of the eternity if we do only his will, thus i am hopeful we can make together our aim fullfield for this family and further!

The general purpose of this writing helps us also to answer the doubt
“is God real?”

I start by saying "yes" -and the detail of explanation will continue!

ewnet
23rd June 2004, 03:32 PM
I am writing this to praise the Lord with all who have breath,


Psalm 150

1: Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.
2: Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.
3: Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.
4: Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
5: Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
6: Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.

ewnet
23rd June 2004, 03:35 PM
For the purpose of the knowledge of God not,

The following suggestion, message, information, comments, idea and thoughts are written based on personal researched knowledge found from self experience and other sources. The writing is intended to satisfy and comfort believers as much as possible.

I used to quote the biblical phrases to show the believers the credibility of this writing; however after considering the different level of knowledge acquired by the believers and the problem of the bible translation by itself, I obliged to make it short, fair and balanced for all believers. The bible phrases quote most of them taken from King James version that has been translated from the original tongue even that with many modifications mistranslations and misinterpretations.
To see this differences one can just enough to inspect some phrases. Specially, nowadays the translation seems more corrupted than ever to destroy the real meaning in the mission to distract the salvation of many.
That is in addition of every preacher misinterpretations. Imagine even the main commandments and short phrases are become different from book to book. For instance one of the main and the mysterious commandment that warns about taking the name of the Lord in vain seems confused in three different books; actually it might be even in every printing time.
I have taken the following example from the mostly read books- English version from King James; Amharic (Ethiopian) from Orthodox; and Torah (Jewish book) from 1917 publications.

That is according to King James Version Exodus 20:7 says: Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guilt less that takes his name in vain. That can have many misrepresentation and misinterpretation but it seems clear that the message or the commandment is ordered “not to take the name of the God in vain”.

For instance, to take personal names such as called God, Lord, light, savior, Jesus etc. Even other biblical names like Abraham, Rachel etc. would be guilty to use the name in vain; people taking names like being called as Gods people, Jewish people or Christians would be also guilty if they take that name in vain because using the name of God directly or indirectly in vain wouldn’t make some one guiltless for that.

Countries called like Israel, Ethiopia,Zion, Jerusalem or Christian advocated countries in the name of Christ or using the law of God for misguiding others or leading to evil purpose is equal to be considered to take the name of God in vain. That seems one of the meanings denotes that found from the King James Version.

According to the Torah version- I found on one book that says Exodus 20:7- “you shall not swear falsely by the name of the lord for the lord will not clear one who swears falsely”

That shows a huge difference from the first one however there is a foot note that tries to explain why they changed the commandment. The foot note says “tradition varies as to the division of the commandments in Vs 2-14, and as to the numbering of the verses from 13 on bb others “take in vain”

that clearly shows the deliberate distracting of the message to the Jewish people who are suppose to consider the taking of the name in vain is very serious commandment and on the other hand it seems to be disadvantage
for the Jewish people and for all believers unable to wait the person according to the commandment written on the Torah that supposed to come in the name of the Lord.


According to the Amharic version the same thing seems happened. That says “do not call the name of the Lord in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guilt less that calls his name in vain.

In general it seems the translator and distributors of the bible the wrong people helped by some misguided thought tried to distribute the message here and there wrongly.

There are many misinterpretations that do not seem to fit the place the history and the purpose. They didn’t understand that bible is not a political or a philosophy book that can be changed and can be used as like other ideology.
It is very serious messages that can no one delete it or change its reality. In doing that we can win only to destroy our selves like we started already if we don’t know how to avert the maximum danger.

That was the reason the chronology was written in the book. That is for the reason that nobody would try to cheat any one. So, to work these to bring the real scripture message back in reality we need to strive, other wise it would be very difficult to bring the dream of peace and prosperity for the believers and other good peoples in reality. In general, the message of the book seems far away from its purpose these days, that is why the consideration of many factors should be given a value to bring the hope in reality than to create difficult situation.

ewnet
23rd June 2004, 03:37 PM
 what is the specialty of this writings
The message

This writing is the general idea of the writer thought to suggest or to share ideas how we should react towards the current conflicted situation. The message of the writing could be taken as major principle of the writer than the final decision, in this case, the position of the writer. Thus, the writing should be taken to the positive advantage for all party than to take it as a tool to mishandle the message. Expect the writing may have slight grammatical and vocabulary errors however not far from giving enough messages.

I wrote this general information to help many to widen their knowledge regarding the current situation related with the scriptures message (Gods will) and to indicate the truth to help them to take firm stand to the immutable destiny of our future
The titles, the content and detail of the following writings are the basic question of many people even though in different magnitude. So, to make it very easy I used some phrases from Bible to encourage some people reading more about the details that have connection with it. These are very short writings as introductions to give very short answers for big questions.
The system of the writing is arranged methodically to make the complicated matter very short and informative.
As an example, the following step shows the idea of its arrangements.

 I ask questions-for example – (see one of the Titles)
“What is the most important thing I need to know most?”
 I look for answers-I have to think thoroughly about the question to find the answer. I found ultimately that the most important thing I need to know most is to know about God or gods and his works and the relationship we have.

 To know about God I have to read books that narrates or explains about such matter. In this case, the religion books, myth, philosophies, histories and cultural books etc. are the interesting subjects.


 From all those books I choose religion books are more direct and closer to tell about God unlike philosophies.

 From religion books I choose bible to be more satisfactory than the others for good reasons.


 From the Bible histories I searched which part of history or which commandments are more important than the others.

 I tried to find the most wise person in the bible as a human being to learn from his words because I do understand through his teaching I may know God. In this case, I found King Solomon to be the wisest man to teach me from human beings and wanted to know his teachings.

 That is because any one who has a very wide knowledge of bible as human being can not be by any means greater than King Solomon. That is because simply and reasonably.


 According to the bible history God promised only to Solomon during his prayer to give him a wisdom and knowledge more than any one before him and after him. So, we don’t have a chance to know the mystery of bible more than him except learning from him. However, if any one claims to be more than Solomon, then that man must be his God. Otherwise as human being only his descendents can be his proportion even though still they can not be able to be wiser than him because of the promise of the Lord.

 From the above research I put my confidence in his teaching and I tried to test his knowledge to conclude the matter in the following ways.


 A, I read some of his knowledge from the bible itself to measure his capacity of knowledge in that old time? Better to read from the ecclesiasts, proverb. Song and other that are not available for many including myself that explains the whole matter of our life experience that has been long before the existence of our current civilized world.
 B, I studied and observed the history of our world that I find that most of the world philosophers are emerged after the existence of Solomon kingdom.

 C, we can see how countries like western being civilized based on his knowledge. Etc.

So, finally I reach to know exactly the main point of his knowledge was not yet completed but concluded by saying:

“ the duty of man is just to keep the commandment of God” That is all his knowledge and research brought him to know the purpose of his life.

That is why I learned from him and wrote the following messages and suggestion to balance and know the reason why we are being created?; who are we as a being?; what is the most burning issue the human being need to know most?; what is our future?; Who may know the history of bible at most today?; Why anti Semitism again and again?; what is the cause of our conflict?; the meaning of my personal history and persecution etc why?. These writings are all intended to bring peace in working in detail to avoid any unwanted huge problems. So, to find more useful meaning and research please read the following writings.
The writing specially arranged to help Judo-Christians. In the writing the mentioning of the persecution of Christian Ethiopian should be considered also to be equally or more severely for Israelis. These days In Israel people suffering more than other places. However, I didn’t write about it that much for the reasons I have enough history by myself to know the magnitude of suffering of Israelis with out being there; hopefully, for good end.
The other one is I want to focus on the evidential history that no body denies me that happening today’s persecution than focusing about the histories written long ago to be confused with irrelevant histories. I wouldn’t be foolish to focus in the difference of denominations or in the difference of Jewish and Christian religion followers we have in Jesus (because if things happened nothing could happened with out the will of the GOD). I may focus rather against the people who are denying Gods existence in general in any kind of phenomenon to be the cause just for a reason to be against the existence of Israel and its people. More heavily I am focusing with the help of others to find out the personal enemies of real believers to avert them from being the witness of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and his anointed. That means they were fighting even with out our knowledge against all believers and against nature.

In this case it has a big meaning for all believers and non-believers in general.

I think and at least we have to have a chance to live in peace while we believe in the true God the creator of all, other wise we have to make real strong position to avert and avoid this problem to defend our existence as a human race. That is the general message of the writing.

ewnet
23rd June 2004, 03:38 PM
 Why we are being created?


If we think thoroughly and honestly we, as human being are created only to Serve our creator and to keep the duty of his commandments (Ref. ecclesiasts 12: 13, 14 Matthew 22:35-40) in doing that in return to receive from the creator of us the true Knowledge, life, love, joy, happiness, peace, health, prosperity and every good of emotions in free will that can lead us closer to his eternity."

So, every time and everywhere the most important thing as a human being we supposed to think and doing in our life is as a purpose to know how we really can serve our creator to win those favors. Unfortunately, by the work of God himself most of us don't know how to do that except very few; specially the one that would be elected by the Creator himself to show this job. That is to prevent the claim of every one of us to be the teacher of how to serve the creator because we may fail to do the right thing and leading astray the others too. Thus, to serve the Creator we have to follow the instruction or suggestion from that person that is elected by him. We know these days we have millions of churches and leaders they are very honest and willing to serve their God but the interpretation of serving God by each one of them is different and mostly inconsistent.

They may be competent and very good to lead churches and their congregations even their countries. But as we know that, mostly it is all about them and their people that uses may be for earthly life but the service is not actually for God but for them through his name. Serving the Creator is some how reserved to be done in his own choice for unique reason not in the advantage of the server but the served. That is to show listening of those persons to be very important. That is why the choosing of Aaron was reserved for priesthood than his own kids, that is why the leadership was reserved to Moses not for his sister or brother that is why kingship was reserved to the house of David and his descendents until the end.

In this matter, even though, in our world started since many years in this centuries alone different time people claimed to be more important than the others, deceiving even to be the messiah or Christ etc. However, they never proved their personal history to match or to be the real witnesses of the Lord our God who is just one, or to be his messenger. That is why I do invite scholars to read the following story as testimony to show relevant credibility that requires and needs to write in detail many years. However you can read the following short summarized history to make quicker step to cooperate each other but to work toward peace through careful and wise steps in patience.

Sephania
23rd June 2004, 06:05 PM
What is this debate about? :scratch:

visionary
23rd June 2004, 06:13 PM
Keep talking, I am listening

iitb
28th June 2004, 12:15 AM
Moved to main MJ forum, as this isn't actually a debate. ;)