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MParedon
16th June 2004, 03:47 PM
I've never been to one and since one of my friends converted to Methodist when she got married I might be going to one or two of her services in the future.
I know there are different types of Methodists, so I would like to learn about if there are different types of services.
Thanx in advance :)
HeatherJay
16th June 2004, 03:55 PM
A UMC service is generally pretty structure (but not too stuffy). There's an order to things. Certain recitations in places. Some singing. A well timed sermon. My Gram always admired the fact that the services there never ran too long. It's fairly meek and mild and you most likely won't have anyone shouting Hallelujah or anything (though, I guess you might ;)). Relax, my dear, there's nothing to fear. :)
I'm Nazarene now, but I was Methodist (UMC) for quite a number of years.
Dark_Lite
16th June 2004, 08:07 PM
Since we're a spinoff from the Anglican church (Which is basically Protestant Catholicism), it's kind of mystical, but not as mystical as a Catholic Mass or Anglican Mass.
The preachers wear robes. Communion is believed to be a spiritual presence of Jesus in the bread (I think). Anyhow, you NEED the little leaflet thing to follow the service, Methodist services are very odered and.... methodical. Just grab one of the leaflet things and you'll know what's going on. It's similar to a missalette, but things change so you'll need it to go through the service.
Kripost
16th June 2004, 10:16 PM
The impression I get is that the service is 'semi-liturgucal', in a sense that there is an orderly sequence in the service, which is more or less the same every week. Yet there seems to be some sort of leeway given for difference (e.g. for special occasions?)
Of course, I guess it may vary from parish to parish, and I have only been to a few Methodist services, so I my comments are based on why I have experienced.
elanor
16th June 2004, 11:50 PM
Think Liturgy-Lite. ;) Here's how our service generally goes:
About 15 minutes before the service actually begins, we have a praise time, singing hymns and choruses. Once service starts, we begin with welcoming visitors and announcements. Then the acolytes (children) light the candles on the altar, symbolic of God's light with us. Pastor then reads a short reflection that relates to what will be the overall theme of the service. This helps us focus our minds. We have a hymn, then the liturgist reads a call to worship. It's in call/response format, so for that you need the bulletin. Then we greet each other, there's a children's moment before they are dismissed for Sunday School, and then we have prayer. We always start with reading a corporate prayer of confession, then have silent prayer, then we read words of assurance of God's forgiveness and presence in our lives. Then we have corporate prayer. That varies a bit. Sometimes people share praises and prayer requests. Pastor says either, "In your mercy," or "We give you thanks." We respond with "Lord, hear our prayers." Sometimes pastor prays a lead prayer and pauses so we can chime in. For example, she may pray for those who suffer from pain and disease, and during the pause people from all around the room speak the name of someone they know who is ill. More singing, sharing of our tithes and offerings, the sermon, and (once a month) celebration of the Lord's Supper. In our church we go forward to the altar, breaking off a piece of bread and dipping it in the cup as we receive it. More singing, then we all join hands for a benediction.
It's not at all intimidating. It's actually very warm and friendly, and I love the moments of quiet scattered throughout that give me a chance to commune with the Lord.
That's probably more than you wanted to know, but there you go. :)
Edit: I'm in the United Methodist Church, by the way.
CryptoKnight
17th June 2004, 10:25 AM
I've never been to one and since one of my friends converted to Methodist when she got married I might be going to one or two of her services in the future.
Our UMC church has three distinctly different services. The 2nd service is similar to what has been described above, with robes, choirs and bell choirs, call to worship, and a vaguely Anglican feel. FWIW, because of our demographics, it also has the smallest attendance.
Our first service sings blended praise (i.e. praise songs typically from the 70's and newer, like "Come, Now is the TIme to Worship" and "Awesome God" being led my our music director from the Piano. No robes, but a very similar structure otherwise to the Traditional (second) service.
Our third service is a modern praise service. We don't hand out flyers or anything, because we want people's hands empty to clap and praise. We don't want them reading anything that's not up on the projection screen. We have a live praise band (lead, rhythm and bass guitars, drums, keyboards, and 6 vocalists) and sing *some* of the "Awesome God" type songs, but most of it is much newer Newsboys/Michael W Smith/Vineyard type music.
In our District (Rocky Mountain/Denver) there seems to be a general tendency to add contemporary worship to complement the traditional services.
ChristianTeen
17th June 2004, 10:46 AM
Well, since I am pretty sure I am the only Free Methodist here, I guess I should post.
Our services have a prelude, then announcements, offering, some songs then comes the sermon. Then we sing another song at the end after the sermon, or message as it is sometimes called. After that is the Pastoral Prayer, the Benediction, and the Doxology. Then we can leave. Usually lasts about an hour. Not much longer at least.
Plan 9
17th June 2004, 11:25 AM
I have attended all three of these in my lifetime, and I like them all, but I'm a member of a church now, which may constitute a fourth, although with perhaps some features of each, but I'm afraid my powers of description may be inadequate, so if anyone has any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
I belong to a UM church which a congregation which is approximately eighty percent black. We have two choirs, a professional one which pays for a lot of the church's maintenance, and a pathetically amateur one (and by that I mean incredibly bad; we had so few tenors that I sang tenor, like in the Johnny Cash song, so trust me on this one), because everyone with a really good voice is pulled for the professional one.
We have a printed order of service and everything, but the cool choir enters after the congregation is seated, and their small orchestra (pretty much a Gospel and Jazz band which can really wail) is already tuned up and strikes up the same the opening hymn each week, which is Black Gospel, and to which rhey choir mwmbers also clap, walking in a procession up each side aisle (there is no center one) to the front in a stylized, coordinated fashion to fit with the music, a little like a school graduations.
(The *ahem* below average choir is already seated, and when they perform their one number later (piano only), the cool choir can be counted on to enthusiastically applaud their effort with total sincerity).
Then the fun starts. LOL
The sermon style depends on what sort of part time pastor we can afford; the closest UM seminary is too far away to provide us with a supply of UM pastors-in-training, but even when we have a pastor who is rather high church, individual members of the congregation will quietly, but audibly and emphatically encourage him or her in a manner which is sincere, and not in the least distracting: "Amen, Brother!", "You're right, Sister!", "Preach it, Brother!", and sometimes repeating a short version of the pastor's statement : "Um um! No followin' the world!", and no one ever speaks up at the same time.
Some of the announcements will be in the nature of personal congratulations:
"Brother so-and-so has been accepted to Drury University (It's an excellent private school, and expensive). Let's congratulate him!" Then the embarrassed young man must stead to applause, while his parents sit there, beaming with pleasure and pride.
In the Narthex, our free copies of The Upper Room are cheek and jowl with the monthy newsletters from the local African ME and Christian ME churches.
In a city in which you can find UM churches within three blocks of each other, half with cornerstones showing that they used to be Southern ME churches, I'm couldn't be prouder to be a member of a Black ME church which never split away. My father's church is their "sister" church, and he's equally proud.
This is an old, and historically important church, and better yet, today's congregation is warm and welcoming to all. I can't tell you how very much I miss being able to attend; it was always the high point of my week.
Plan 9
17th June 2004, 11:31 AM
Well, since I am pretty sure I am the only Free Methodist here, I guess I should post.
Our services have a prelude, then announcements, offering, some songs then comes the sermon. Then we sing another song at the end after the sermon, or message as it is sometimes called. After that is the Pastoral Prayer, the Benediction, and the Doxology. Then we can leave. Usually lasts about an hour. Not much longer at least.
I wish we had a way to find everyone who's a member of this forum and personally invite them; surely you aren't the only Free Methodist here at CF! :(
I sure am pleased that you post here, though! Thank you! :)
MParedon
17th June 2004, 03:17 PM
Thanx you guys...so much. From the descriptions, it sounds like a cross between Baptist and Catholic. Like somewhere in the middle. I only make that description because I've only ever been to Catholic Mass and Fund.SouthernBaptist services.
I love your detailed descriptions, I think I'll probably be very comfortable at one of these services...I even got the "Lord hear our prayers" part down pat! :)
And now I finally know why there was a projection screen at my friend's wedding. They showed photos of the bride and groom growing up and together. Too sweet. I just thought that this was some sort of new trend that she started. I kept on thinking, "Boy, I wonder how she convinced the pastor to let her bring a projection screen?"
Plan 9
17th June 2004, 03:36 PM
Thanx you guys...so much. From the descriptions, it sounds like a cross between Baptist and Catholic. Like somewhere in the middle. I only make that description because I've only ever been to Catholic Mass and Fund.SouthernBaptist services.
That's a very good description! They very much run the gamut beteen Catholic and Southern Baptist. My church is every bit as conservative as a Southern Baptist church, in most respects. I see no reason why you wouldn't feel comfortable, and I think it's way cool that you came here to ask us. I had a lot of fun writing my post for you. :)
Not all of our ministers are the most magnetic of preachers, but as HeatherJay pointed out, the average service doesn't tend to be very long, and a big reason for that is that the minister had better have something pretty riveting to say if her or she is going to preach for longer than about 20 minutes. Our seminaries try to teach them to be concise speakers, because a lot of good stuff can be packed into 20 minutes of the speaker is organized.
I love your detailed descriptions, I think I'll probably be very comfortable at one of these services...I even got the "Lord hear our prayers" part down pat! :)
Did anyone give you the lyrics to the Doxology and the Gloria Patri yet? LOL
And now I finally know why there was a projection screen at my friend's wedding. They showed photos of the bride and groom growing up and together. Too sweet. I just thought that this was some sort of new trend that she started. I kept on thinking, "Boy, I wonder how she convinced the pastor to let her bring a projection screen?"
awww...That is sweet!
MParedon
17th June 2004, 04:40 PM
Gloria Patri:
Glory be to the Father,
And to the Son,
And to the Holy Spirit; (or do you say Holy Ghost, instead?)
As it was in the beginning,
Is now,
And ever shall be,
World without end
Is there a set doxology, or do you do different ones on different days?
HeatherJay
17th June 2004, 05:29 PM
The Doxology we always sang was :
Praise God from whom all blessings flow;
Praise Him all creatures here below;
Praise Him above ye heavenly host;
Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
Amen.
Are there different doxologies? I didn't know that. I always LOVED that one...it's so beautiful. I really miss it, I'm not sure if the Church of the Nazarene sings it at all. I wish they did, though. :)
And during the Gloria Patri we sing 'Holy Ghost' instead of 'Holy Spirit'. Also, add a couple of Amens at the end there, lol, like this :
Glory be to the Father
And to the Son
And to the Holy Ghost;
As it was in the beginning,
Is now and ever shall be;
World without end, amen, amen.
It's really pretty, too. We don't sing that one, either. :( Maybe I'll pay my friendly, neighborhood UMC a visit one of these Sundays. :)
elanor
17th June 2004, 08:50 PM
Yes, there are various doxologies. :) Our hymnal has several. This is the one we sing as the offering is brought forward and placed on the altar:
Praise God from whom all blessings flow.
Praise God all creatures here below.
Alleluia, Alleluia!
Praise God the source of all our gifts,
Praise Jesus Christ whose power uplifts,
Praise the Spirit, Holy Spirit,
ALLELUIA, ALLELUIA, ALLELUIA.
The Gloria Patri isn't part of our service. I wish it was! We do say the Lord's Prayer every week.
Oh, by the way, there are a few of us who do lift our hands during worship and prayer. And the practice is spreading. ;) :)
Plan 9
17th June 2004, 10:25 PM
Gloria Patri:
Glory be to the Father,
And to the Son,
And to the Holy Spirit; (or do you say Holy Ghost, instead?)
As it was in the beginning,
Is now,
And ever shall be,
World without end
Is there a set doxology, or do you do different ones on different days?
HeatherJay has given the lyrics to the only set doxology I'm familiar with as a United Methodist.
Your Gloria Patri must be sung to a different tune? Ours wouldn't scan properly if we we sang "Holy Spirit", rather than "Holy Ghost".
Btw, When I was a small child I found the term "Holy Ghost" disconcerting. I knew that he had to be a really good Ghost, but I didn't see how he could be much like Caspar the Friendly Ghost, either. I finally concluded that this obviously had to be one of those grownup things.
Filia Mariae
17th June 2004, 10:30 PM
Btw, When I was a small child I found the term "Holy Ghost" disconcerting. I knew that he had to be a really good Ghost, but I didn't see how he could be much like Caspar the Friendly Ghost, either. I finally concluded that this obviously had to be one of those grownup things.
:D :D :D Me too! I used to be Episcopalian and we said "Holy Ghost" too and I always thought about that.:P
Plan 9
17th June 2004, 11:36 PM
:D :D :D Me too! I used to be Episcopalian and we said "Holy Ghost" too and I always thought about that.:P
Really, Carly? Weren't we the Tiny Trinitarians! http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif
I love reading those books about what children think of God, but the Holy Ghost has never come up in any I've read, so I thought I might be the only one. http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_nerd.gif
Did you ask your parents, or did you keep trying to puzzle out this weighty theological concept all by yourself?
bigsierra
17th June 2004, 11:58 PM
I was going over the Angelus with the kids tonight and they freaked over the term Holy Ghost. They asked if they had to say Ghost, because they liked spirit better. I know I've said Holy Ghost around them before.
Plan 9
18th June 2004, 12:45 AM
I was going over the Angelus with the kids tonight and they freaked over the term Holy Ghost. They asked if they had to say Ghost, because they liked spirit better. I know I've said Holy Ghost around them before.
I'm afraid that "Holy Ghost" has become an oxymoron for children over time, and the meaning of a unfamiliar oxymoron isn't always easy for adults to immediately grasp.
HeatherJay
18th June 2004, 02:12 AM
My pastor was discussing this a while back in passing. He said that one of the reasons that pastors today commonly refer to being saved (at least in mixed company) as "recieving Jesus into your heart/life" instead of "receiving the Holy Spirit" is because it's so disconcerting for children. As adults we know it's the Holy Spirit that dwells within us, not Jesus.** But, Jesus, they get ("that friendly looking guy holding the lamb...yeah, He can come into my life")...the Holy Ghost ("huh??? There's WHAT living inside me???"), well, that's a difficult concept for little ones to wrap their brains around.
That may or may not be a common reason, but it makes sense to me. ;)
** Note, that I'm not trying to promote any sort of anti-Trinitarian philosophy. If it strikes you that way then just omit this sentence and re-read the post in the light hearted manner in which I intended it. :)
Plan 9
18th June 2004, 08:20 AM
That makes a lot of sense to me, too, HeatherJay. :)
We adults often teach children hymns and prayers which they don't actually understand, resulting in such renderings as
"Gladly, the Cross-eyed Bear"
and (a personal favorite of mine) :
"Our Father, which art in heaven,
Hello! What be Thy name?"
When you consider these mistakes, along with Carly's and my puzzlement over *ahem* "Casper, the Holy Ghost", I think they illustrate beautifully how very clear we need to be very when attempting to explain something to children as basic and vital to them as personal salvation.
...and don't we all, even as adults, love "that friendly looking guy holding the lamb" and think "Yeah, I want him in my life forever"?
After all, it was that friendly looking guy holding the lamb who said to let the children come to him, and if we don't accept the kingdom of God like children ourselves, we'll never enter it. (Mark 10:13-16)
The approach your pastor refers to is the one I prefer myself, for the simple reason that it was understandable to me at eighteen. I had "heard" the Gospel all my life, but since I couldn't comprehend it, I essentially hadn't heard it at all.
I was the first to respond to any altar call, and "renewed" my faith many times with zero results. Finally, a pastor who understood what I truly desired far better than I, and explained it to me in just that way when I responded to an altar call...for help in quitting smoking. http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_crazy.gif
ChiRho
18th June 2004, 08:21 AM
My pastor was discussing this a while back in passing. He said that one of the reasons that pastors today commonly refer to being saved (at least in mixed company) as "recieving Jesus into your heart/life" instead of "receiving the Holy Spirit" is because it's so disconcerting for children. As adults we know it's the Holy Spirit that dwells within us, not Jesus. But, Jesus, they get ("that friendly looking guy holding the lamb...yeah, He can come into my life")...the Holy Ghost ("huh??? There's WHAT living inside me???"), well, that's a difficult concept for little ones to wrap their brains around.
That may or may not be a common reason, but it makes sense to me. ;)
This sounds almost anti-Trinitarian. :eek: Where there is One, there is all Three.
Pax Christi,
ChiRho
ChiRho
18th June 2004, 08:24 AM
That makes a lot of sense to me, too, HeatherJay. :)
We adults often teach children hymns and prayers which they don't actually understand, resulting in such renderings as
"Gladly, the Cross-eyed Bear"
and (a personal favorite of mine) :
"Our Father, which art in heaven,
Hello! What be Thy name?"
When you consider these mistakes, along with Carly's and my puzzlement over *ahem* "Casper, the Holy Ghost", I think they illustrate beautifully how very clear we need to be very when attempting to explain something to children as basic and vital to them as personal salvation.
...and don't we all, even as adults, love "that friendly looking guy holding the lamb" and think "Yeah, I want him in my life forever"?
After all, it was that friendly looking guy holding the lamb who said to let the children come to him, and if we don't accept the kingdom of God like children ourselves, we'll never enter it. (Mark 10:13-16)
The approach your pastor refers to is the one I prefer myself, for the simple reason that it was understandable to me at eighteen. I had "heard" the Gospel all my life, but since I couldn't comprehend it, I essentially hadn't heard it at all.
I was the first to respond to any altar call, and "renewed" my faith many times with zero results. Finally, a pastor who understood what I truly desired far better than I, and explained it to me in just that way when I responded to an altar call...for help in quitting smoking. http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_crazy.gif
As a mature Christian, what does it mean to "comprehend it"?
Pax Christi,
ChiRho
HeatherJay
18th June 2004, 11:11 AM
This sounds almost anti-Trinitarian. :eek: Where there is One, there is all Three.
Pax Christi,
ChiRho
I assure you, we are very much a Trinitarian church. The idea being that for many children, the idea of a 'ghost' is either a scary thing or a completely foreign thing. When referring to 'accepting Jesus' with children, it's much more familiar and comfortable, and perfectly acceptable to God, I believe.
And we all do it to a certain extent, I think. Do you ever say a prayer to Jesus? I do, sometimes, even though it's proper to prayer to the Father through the Son for the Holy Spirit. And if you do sometimes pray to Jesus, do you also ever pray to the Holy Spirit? And if not, why?? Personally, I don't think I've ever said a prayer addressed to the Holy Spirit...even though the Holy Spirit is co-equal in the Trinity along with the Father and the Son. It's just something that is unfamiliar to me, though I'm sure, there's not a thing wrong with it in God's eyes.
It's just a different terminology...'accepting Christ' or 'receiving the Spirit'...for the same basic thing. :)
Plan 9
18th June 2004, 11:36 AM
I assure you, we are very much a Trinitarian church. The idea being that for many children, the idea of a 'ghost' is either a scary thing or a completely foreign thing. When referring to 'accepting Jesus' with children, it's much more familiar and comfortable, and perfectly acceptable to God, I believe.
And we all do it to a certain extent, I think. Do you ever say a prayer to Jesus? I do, sometimes, even though it's proper to prayer to the Father through the Son for the Holy Spirit. And if you do sometimes pray to Jesus, do you also ever pray to the Holy Spirit? And if not, why?? Personally, I don't think I've ever said a prayer addressed to the Holy Spirit...even though the Holy Spirit is co-equal in the Trinity along with the Father and the Son. It's just something that is unfamiliar to me, though I'm sure, there's not a thing wrong with it in God's eyes.
It's just a different terminology...'accepting Christ' or 'receiving the Spirit'...for the same basic thing. :)
You know, Heather, I've been puzzling over ChiRho's post all day. I have no clue how he derived that from your post. None! Nada! Zilch! :scratch:
ChiRho
18th June 2004, 12:15 PM
You know, Heather, I've been puzzling over ChiRho's post all day. I have no clue how he derived that from your post. None! Nada! Zilch!
My pastor was discussing this a while back in passing. He said that one of the reasons that pastors today commonly refer to being saved (at least in mixed company) as "recieving Jesus into your heart/life" instead of "receiving the Holy Spirit" is because it's so disconcerting for children. As adults we know it's the Holy Spirit that dwells within us, not Jesus. But, Jesus, they get ("that friendly looking guy holding the lamb...yeah, He can come into my life")...the Holy Ghost ("huh??? There's WHAT living inside me???"), well, that's a difficult concept for little ones to wrap their brains around.
That may or may not be a common reason, but it makes sense to me. ;)
this is how...
Pax Christi,
ChiRho
HeatherJay
18th June 2004, 12:53 PM
this is how...
Pax Christi,
ChiRhoAh, well, then I retract that sentence. I'll even edit it from my post, if you like. It was a gross over simplification. The point I was trying to make is made well enough without it. Sorry for the confusion. :)
But, and this is way off topic, if you recognize that each of the three co-equal parts of the Trinity have unique characteristics, then I fail to see the problem with what I said in that post. Recognizing the nature of the Holy Spirit in no way lessens the role of Jesus in the Trinity.
Love, Heather
Plan 9
18th June 2004, 01:34 PM
Ah, well, then I retract that sentence. I'll even edit it from my post, if you like. It was a gross over simplification. The point I was trying to make is made well enough without it. Sorry for the confusion. :)
Now, Heather, that so easily proved from the words of Jesus that you should not retract or edit it out it, IMO.
But, and this is way off topic, if you recognize that each of the three co-equal parts of the Trinity have unique characteristics, then I fail to see the problem with what I said in that post. Recognizing the nature of the Holy Spirit in no way lessens the role of Jesus in the Trinity.
Agreed, Heather! :)
Plan 9
18th June 2004, 01:42 PM
this is how...
ChiRho, there's already a thread on the Trinity here.
http://www.christianforums.com/t696071
This one is about church services, and has now moved into how children perceive what they hear and learn in church services.
If you'd like to post about what Lutheran church services are like, or how Lutheran children may perceive what they hear and learn in them, etc., then I, for one, would love to read such posts.
Plan 9
18th June 2004, 02:00 PM
That makes a lot of sense to me, too, HeatherJay.
We adults often teach children hymns and prayers which they don't actually understand, resulting in such renderings as
"Gladly, the Cross-eyed Bear"
and (a personal favorite of mine) :
"Our Father, which art in heaven,
Hello! What be Thy name?"
When you consider these mistakes, along with Carly's and my puzzlement over *ahem* "Casper, the Holy Ghost", I think they illustrate beautifully how very clear we need to be very when attempting to explain something to children as basic and vital to them as personal salvation.
...and don't we all, even as adults, love "that friendly looking guy holding the lamb" and think "Yeah, I want him in my life forever"?
After all, it was that friendly looking guy holding the lamb who said to let the children come to him, and if we don't accept the kingdom of God like children ourselves, we'll never enter it. (Mark 10:13-16)
The approach your pastor refers to is the one I prefer myself, for the simple reason that it was understandable to me at eighteen. I had "heard" the Gospel all my life, but since I couldn't comprehend it, I essentially hadn't heard it at all.
I was the first to respond to any altar call, and "renewed" my faith many times with zero results. Finally, a pastor who understood what I truly desired far better than I, and explained it to me in just that way when I responded to an altar call...for help in quitting smoking. http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_crazy.gif
Note: I don't know if you've noticed this, Heather, but as some of us get older, we tend to repeat ourselves repeat ourselves. ;)
overnight
20th June 2004, 11:52 AM
there is a great gambit of service types. At my church we have two services. The first is contemporary which is more like a blended. We sing praise and worship music. We do hand out a small bullietin that has prayer requests and such but that is about it. In fact this morning I led the service and it was a good service if I say so myself. The Secound service is very traditional, robes, choir, organ, method.
Filia Mariae
20th June 2004, 12:19 PM
Really, Carly? Weren't we the Tiny Trinitarians! http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif
I love reading those books about what children think of God, but the Holy Ghost has never come up in any I've read, so I thought I might be the only one. http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_nerd.gif
Did you ask your parents, or did you keep trying to puzzle out this weighty theological concept all by yourself?
I was puzzling over not only that, but who this guy who was apparently awake flying a plane in the Apostle's Creed (Conscious Pilot).:P
wvmtnkid
21st June 2004, 01:57 PM
I was puzzling over not only that, but who this guy who was apparently awake flying a plane in the Apostle's Creed (Conscious Pilot).:P
:D
wvmtnkid
21st June 2004, 02:04 PM
We have two different services too. Our early one is more contemporary in style and our later one is more traditional. The tradtional one has a choir, responsive readings, 3 scripture readings, sermon, musical groups such as choirs, handbells, church band. Both services have childrens time. We have a liturgist (also know as a worship leader) that helps with the service with the readings and prayers. I don't know as much that happens at our contemporary service because I don't attend that one very often. Not that I don't like it, but I am a creature of habit-I like church at 11:00. :) I know that there is some talk of incorporating some of the contemporary worship into the traditional worship service so I am interested to see how that pans out.
Plan 9
21st June 2004, 04:49 PM
I was puzzling over not only that, but who this guy who was apparently awake flying a plane in the Apostle's Creed (Conscious Pilot).:P
http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif http://sevenofnine.cherrytaco.com/Miscellanea/Emoticons/icon_rotfl.gif
There's this guy hanging out in the Pledge of Allegiance, too. (Richard Stands).
Do Catholics ever find they've confused their children by trying to do right by them, or is it just us? :blush:
Plan 9
21st June 2004, 04:56 PM
We have two different services too. Our early one is more contemporary in style and our later one is more traditional. The tradtional one has a choir, responsive readings, 3 scripture readings, sermon, musical groups such as choirs, handbells, church band. Both services have childrens time. We have a liturgist (also know as a worship leader) that helps with the service with the readings and prayers. I don't know as much that happens at our contemporary service because I don't attend that one very often. Not that I don't like it, but I am a creature of habit-I like church at 11:00. :) I know that there is some talk of incorporating some of the contemporary worship into the traditional worship service so I am interested to see how that pans out.
Overnight and wvmtnkid, I think the idea of having double services in different styles is a fun one. :)
That was done, in a fashion, at the Pentacostal church in which I began my Christian life. The Sunday service was just what you'd expect of you were attending a large AG service, but the Sunday night and Thursday night services were concert-like; especially the Thur. night ones. :)
wvmtnkid
21st June 2004, 08:45 PM
We've tried our hands at a contemporary service several times and just haven't quite gotten it right. Plus we have a lot of opposition to it at the moment. So, here is the way around it. We only have early service in the summer. Gradually over the years, this service has gotten more contemporary where we "try out new ideas". For some reason, this is more accepted. Now, we still have our complainers, but they more or less will come on to the 11:00 service if the early one gets "too contemporary".
People are funny. :)
overnight
21st June 2004, 10:48 PM
Overnight and wvmtnkid, I think the idea of having double services in different styles is a fun one. :)
That was done, in a fashion, at the Pentacostal church in which I began my Christian life. The Sunday service was just what you'd expect of you were attending a large AG service, but the Sunday night and Thursday night services were concert-like; especially the Thur. night ones. :)
It may sound fun but let me speak as a member of a church with two services we also have two differnt congregations. There tends to be little to no fellowship between the two congreagtions either. However, we have started trying things like having cookies and a drink between services, having one blended service now and again.
At my church my family and I attened the contemporay service which has really become a wonderful time. We have communion once a month (which has not always been done at the contemp service) We have baptisims now and again. The music is very worshipful. IT is also at 8:00 am which mean that when sunday school is going on we ussually get home by 10:00 or so ;). Just Joking I love my church and I love the Contemporay worship service. Even in our small town it is growing. In the year I have been there is has grown from around 115 average to about 125 average. Praise be to God.:bow:
Celticflower
22nd June 2004, 09:47 AM
[QUOTE=Plan 9There's this guy hanging out in the Pledge of Allegiance, too. (Richard Stands).
Do Catholics ever find they've confused their children by trying to do right by them, or is it just us? :blush:[/QUOTE]
And let's not forget Harold the angel who "barks" at Christmas time :D
A Catholic friend of mine sang "Ave Maria" at her father's funeral. Sitting in the front row was her young nephew. Part way thru the song the boy pokes his father and asks "Is Aunt Chrissy singing in a different language or did she forget the words?" :blush:
Celtie
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