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Vicky Reynolds
15th June 2004, 04:26 PM
Please someone answer this . Our pastor says that since Jesus blood was pure and could not possibly have touched Mary's blood since sin and God can not intertwine that a mothers blood never touches a baby only nutrients and Dna ,not blood comes from the mother. I agree that blood has been very important since the beginning of time but I believe that Gods blood is more powerful than our blood so it would not affect Jesus at all. But he said blood comes from the father only. I have read and asked one doctor one pastor and several nurses they all say this is not true. I did find on a DNA search ,a scientist that says it is true that blood does not pass through the baby from either parent but only DNA that the baby makes its own blood/DNA.
I want to get all my facts together before I talk to him. He says that this is very important to our belief(Methodist) to understand the purity of God's blood and that he was the perfect sacrifice therefore his blood could not touch mans (human) blood. Is this true, if so I'm not sure I can be a Methodist. I do believe in his perfectness, but his birth, conception and creation are unique . I believe that Mary was chosen just as Abraham, Moses,and Joseph was for their belief and that she was Holy in Gods sight and that possibly cleansed of sin moment she concieved. She made the customary sin offering required by Moses strictly because it was the requirement of the law at that time. I believe this because Jesus touched the clean and unclean, one touch from him healed. One drop of blood healed the guard of the cross and so on.

DNCM
4th October 2006, 11:47 PM
OK this is a tricky question to answer.

OK..I'll give my opinion. Sin is in our nature not in our blood. Sin is in our heart and mind. We (man) are sinful. The relevance to blood between Mary and Jesus is in my opinion has no relevance.

Jesus was created without sin and could, but never sinned. His blood is pure in relation.

Throughout the bible man gave sacrafice to God asking for forgiveness for sin. God gave a final sacrafice, Jesus. To forgive us for our sins. It is his blood in sacrafice that releases us from sin. There is no sin in blood.

I am not a teacher but I know how I understand and translate things. Hope this helps.

I will pray that if this does not properly answer your question that the answer comes to you...
God Bless

Angeldove97
5th October 2006, 12:44 AM
Moved from New Member Intros forum. :)

msbojingles
5th October 2006, 10:26 AM
Please someone answer this . Our pastor says that since Jesus blood was pure and could not possibly have touched Mary's blood since sin and God can not intertwine that a mothers blood never touches a baby only nutrients and Dna ,not blood comes from the mother. I agree that blood has been very important since the beginning of time but I believe that Gods blood is more powerful than our blood so it would not affect Jesus at all. But he said blood comes from the father only. I have read and asked one doctor one pastor and several nurses they all say this is not true. I did find on a DNA search ,a scientist that says it is true that blood does not pass through the baby from either parent but only DNA that the baby makes its own blood/DNA.
I want to get all my facts together before I talk to him. He says that this is very important to our belief(Methodist) to understand the purity of God's blood and that he was the perfect sacrifice therefore his blood could not touch mans (human) blood. Is this true, if so I'm not sure I can be a Methodist. I do believe in his perfectness, but his birth, conception and creation are unique . I believe that Mary was chosen just as Abraham, Moses,and Joseph was for their belief and that she was Holy in Gods sight and that possibly cleansed of sin moment she concieved. She made the customary sin offering required by Moses strictly because it was the requirement of the law at that time. I believe this because Jesus touched the clean and unclean, one touch from him healed. One drop of blood healed the guard of the cross and so on.
I heard something very similar to what you heard preached at my church before. It did not line up with what I was taught in biology class, so I asked my mom about it (she's a nurse), and just as you found out, the blood itself is not transfered, it is the DNA, and a baby gets their DNA from both the mother AND the father.

The Rh factor is always passed on - regardless of whether is came from the mother or the father.

Next time you visit a doctor, maybe ask him or her all about it, so you'll have it on good authority :).

Jesus had to be 100% God and 100% human. If He hadn't gotten anything from Mary, He wouldn't have been human.

svdbygrace
5th October 2006, 12:33 PM
Actually... the Methodist Articles of Religion (still part of the Book of Discipline of the United Methodist Church) state the following. :)

Article 2 - Of the Word of God, or Son of God who was made Very Man.The Son, who is the Word of the Father, the very and eternal God, of one substance with the Father, took man's nature in the womb of the blessed Virgin; so that two whole and perfect natures, that is to say, the Godhead and Manhood, were joined together in one person, never to be divided; whereof is one Christ, very God and very Man, who truly suffered, was crucified, dead, and buried, to reconcile his Father to us, and to be a sacrifice, not only for original guilt, but also for actual sins of men.

herev
5th October 2006, 07:48 PM
Please someone answer this . Our pastor says that since Jesus blood was pure and could not possibly have touched Mary's blood since sin and God can not intertwine that a mothers blood never touches a baby only nutrients and Dna ,not blood comes from the mother. I agree that blood has been very important since the beginning of time but I believe that Gods blood is more powerful than our blood so it would not affect Jesus at all. But he said blood comes from the father only. I have read and asked one doctor one pastor and several nurses they all say this is not true. I did find on a DNA search ,a scientist that says it is true that blood does not pass through the baby from either parent but only DNA that the baby makes its own blood/DNA.
I want to get all my facts together before I talk to him. He says that this is very important to our belief(Methodist) to understand the purity of God's blood and that he was the perfect sacrifice therefore his blood could not touch mans (human) blood. Is this true, if so I'm not sure I can be a Methodist. I do believe in his perfectness, but his birth, conception and creation are unique . I believe that Mary was chosen just as Abraham, Moses,and Joseph was for their belief and that she was Holy in Gods sight and that possibly cleansed of sin moment she concieved. She made the customary sin offering required by Moses strictly because it was the requirement of the law at that time. I believe this because Jesus touched the clean and unclean, one touch from him healed. One drop of blood healed the guard of the cross and so on.well, I can say this. i obviously don't know your pastor, but I can say that what he is saying is NOT important to UM beleifs. PERIOD. I would challenge him (politely) to point you to some UM theologians or to a place in either the Book of Discipline or the book of Resolutions that says this is vital in ANY way to our doctrines.
It hasn't been that long since I wrote all my papers for the Board of Ordained Ministry and I can assure you that I read many, many UM theologians and have never heard this. Additionally, it's not been that long since I graduated from seminary with my M.Div. and I never heard it there either.
Just ask him to recommend a book by a UM scholar that would help you understand what he is saying.
And don't leave the UM church. If it concerns you enough, Contact the District Superintendant.
Peace
Rev. Tommy Conder
Western North Carolina Conference of The United Methodist Church www.wnccumc.org (http://www.wnccumc.org)
pm me if you have further questions as I don't make it around here (WP) very often.

herev
5th October 2006, 07:49 PM
Actually... the Methodist Articles of Religion (still part of the Book of Discipline of the United Methodist Church) state the following. :)

Article 2 - Of the Word of God, or Son of God who was made Very Man.The Son, who is the Word of the Father, the very and eternal God, of one substance with the Father, took man's nature in the womb of the blessed Virgin; so that two whole and perfect natures, that is to say, the Godhead and Manhood, were joined together in one person, never to be divided; whereof is one Christ, very God and very Man, who truly suffered, was crucified, dead, and buried, to reconcile his Father to us, and to be a sacrifice, not only for original guilt, but also for actual sins of men.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: