Need more reading material!

[WildStrawberry]

Hey all!

Currently I'm reading Why I am a Lutheran: Jesus at the Center by Daniel Preus. I'm totally loving it and can hardly wait to climb into bed at night to read the next chapter. (I'm limiting myself to one chapter a day so I can savor it.)

Next up will be a rereading of The Spirituality of the Cross by Vieth (if it ever arrives from Amazon. I read a library copy the first time.

After that, I'm pretty much out except for my Table Talk and...I forget the other...oh yeah, In the Fullness of Time by Paul Maier.

I need more! I'd like to stick with both theology and historicity if possible.

Any suggestions?

And would anyone like to start a "book club" on here?

Kae

[filosofer]

The Hammer of God (Bo Giertz)

Skeleton in God's Closet (Paul Maier)

More than a Skeleton (Paul Maier)

Salt and Light: The Life and Times of Alfred Rehwinkel

Justification (Martin Cheminitz, translated by J. A. O. Preus, II)

Reversed Thunder: The Revelation of St. John and the Praying Imagination (Eugene Peterson)

The Theology of the Cross for the 21st Century: Signposts for a Multicultural Witness (ed: A. Garcia and Victor Raj)

Follow Me: Discipleship According to Matthew (Martin Franzmann)



Should keep you occupied for a few days. :D

[WildStrawberry]

Oooh Awsome! Thanks Filo.

I own and ADORE the Paul Maier Skeleton books. HIGHLY recommend them!

anything else?

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Hey all!

Currently I'm reading Why I am a Lutheran: Jesus at the Center by Daniel Preus. I'm totally loving it and can hardly wait to climb into bed at night to read the next chapter. (I'm limiting myself to one chapter a day so I can savor it.)

Next up will be a rereading of The Spirituality of the Cross by Vieth (if it ever arrives from Amazon. I read a library copy the first time.

After that, I'm pretty much out except for my Table Talk and...I forget the other...oh yeah, In the Fullness of Time by Paul Maier.

I need more! I'd like to stick with both theology and historicity if possible.

Any suggestions?

And would anyone like to start a "book club" on here?

Kae
I just downloaded two books on Lutheranism into my Treo 700p. One is American Lutheranism by Friedrich Bente and the other is Lutheranism Vindicated or Examination of the Lutheran Symbols, on Certain Disputed Topics by Samuel Simon S c hmucker. Both are available for download at: www.gutenberg.org (http://www.gutenberg.org). Have you read either of these? Yes I would be interested in a book club, bibliophile that I am.

[WildStrawberry]

Ooh, no I haven't. I'll have to check them out.

Thanks!

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Ooh, no I haven't. I'll have to check them out.

Thanks!

Kae
You're welcome. I'm always happy to help a fellow bookworm in need. :wave:

[WildStrawberry]

Well feel free to recommend anything! I'll read anything I can get my hands on anymore. Used to be, I was just into "romance" but...that got old pretty quickly.

Right now I'm on a non fiction kick (as you can tell) but I've also been reading quite a bit of Fantasy. I'm desperate for the new Harry Dresden book to come out!

Kae

[MarkRohfrietsch]

These might be a little heavy but the new edition of the BoC, Concordia, the Lutheran Confessions (Concordia St. Louis) would be an excellent Choice. There are many excellent notes, commentaries and explanations included which give Theological, Scriptural, and Historic context. They don't call it the "Reader's Edition" for nothing! I have the old red covered one, and have not opened it since.

Another book I refer to frequently is Martin Luther's Basic Theological Writings edited by Timothy F. Lull (Fortress, Minneapolis). This draws from the Confessions as well as other documents. It's a very broad view of what made the Lutheran Church then and now.

I found both these books to be edifying, interesting and even at times fun.

Also, another book that is serious, thought provoking and pure fun, yet also good for the soul is The Wit of Martin Luther by Eric W. Gritsch (also Fortress Press). A quote; "Tomorrow I have to Lecture on the drunkenness of Noah (Gen. 9:20-27), so I should drink enough this evening to be able to talk about that wickedness as one who knows from experience". LL 54:20 And... "The Franciscans are the lice which the devil put into the fur coat of God".

Heck, start with the last one, it'l give you an appetite for the first two!

:) Good Reading, :)

Mark

[WildStrawberry]

These might be a little heavy but the new edition of the BoC, Concordia, the Lutheran Confessions (Concordia St. Louis) would be an excellent Choice. There are many excellent notes, commentaries and explanations included which give Theological, Scriptural, and Historic context. They don't call it the "Reader's Edition" for nothing! I have the old red covered one, and have not opened it since.

I have all three editions. The red one (who edited that? I can't remember off the top of my head) The Kolb Tappert edition AND the new one. I ADORE the new one!

Another book I refer to frequently is Martin Luther's Basic Theological Writings edited by Timothy F. Lull (Fortress, Minneapolis). This draws from the Confessions as well as other documents. It's a very broad view of what made the Lutheran Church then and now.

Oooh thanks! I have it on my list now!

Also, another book that is serious, thought provoking and pure fun, yet also good for the soul is The Wit of Martin Luther by Eric W. Gritsch (also Fortress Press). A quote; "Tomorrow I have to Lecture on the drunkenness of Noah (Gen. 9:20-27), so I should drink enough this evening to be able to talk about that wickedness as one who knows from experience". LL 54:20 And... "The Franciscans are the lice which the devil put into the fur coat of God".

Heh! This one does sound like fun. I have an edition of Table Talk...is this more of the same? It's on my list no matter what. :D

Thanks! Keep 'em coming!

Kae

[DaRev]

I have all three editions. The red one (who edited that? I can't remember off the top of my head) The Kolb Tappert edition AND the new one. I ADORE the new one!

The red one is Tappert. The blue one is Kolb/Wengert.

I don't own the Tappert edition. The year I started sem was the year the Kolb/Wengert was published. And since two of our sem profs were involved in that edition (Rev Dr Robert Kolb and Rev Dr Charles Arand) it was the "official" version used on campus. :P

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I have all three editions. The red one (who edited that? I can't remember off the top of my head) The Kolb Tappert edition AND the new one. I ADORE the new one!

Heh! This one does sound like fun. I have an edition of Table Talk...is this more of the same? It's on my list no matter what. :D

Kae

The first version of the BoC that I read was the old "Concordia Triglotta" by Dau and Bente, with English, Latin, and German. Excellent foot notes.

The Wit of Martin Luther is taken from Table Talk, letters and other writings. There are extensive notes (about 11 pages). I found that without a working knowledge of German, a good German-English Dictionary helps with the notes.

Mark

[WildStrawberry]

The red one is Tappert. The blue one is Kolb/Wengert.

I KNEW something sounded off! :doh: Thanks. *G*

The first version of the BoC that I read was the old "Concordia Triglotta" by Dau and Bente, with English, Latin, and German. Excellent foot notes.

The Wit of Martin Luther is taken from Table Talk, letters and other writings. There are extensive notes (about 11 pages). I found that without a working knowledge of German, a good German-English Dictionary helps with the notes.

Mark

Ooh, cool. Thanks! Mike's gonna have a fit with my Amazon order this month. *G*

Kae

[porterross]

Have you read, This Faith is Mine by Richard Meyer? My mother bought us a copy at the National Cathedral of all places. Once my daughter is confirmed, I will make sure she moves on to it so we can discuss it.

[KimLCMS]

Thanks for the thread ... I'm always looking for a good read. I'm reading a lot of fiction right now though.

[WildStrawberry]

Have you read, This Faith is Mine by Richard Meyer? My mother bought us a copy at the National Cathedral of all places. Once my daughter is confirmed, I will make sure she moves on to it so we can discuss it.

I haven't...yet. :D Thanks!

Kim, if you haven't read them yet, the Paul Maier Skeleton books are GREAT. He also has 2 other fiction books, one based on Pontius Pilate's life and the other is sort of an Acts type of book. Both are excellent.

Kae

[WildStrawberry]

Did I ever tell the story of when I ordered "The Bondage of the Will" at the library and when it came in, the library aide (who is a friend of mine) looked at it and said "I didn't know you were into this sort of thing!"

I looked at her and said "What? Lutheran theology? Yes you do. I order books like this all the time."

Her: "OH! I thought it was...oh...well YOU know."

She thought it was a book on BDSM.

I cracked up even though I was pretty appalled.

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Did I ever tell the story of when I ordered "The Bondage of the Will" at the library and when it came in, the library aide (who is a friend of mine) looked at it and said "I didn't know you were into this sort of thing!"

I looked at her and said "What? Lutheran theology? Yes you do. I order books like this all the time."

Her: "OH! I thought it was...oh...well YOU know."

She thought it was a book on BDSM.

I cracked up even though I was pretty appalled.

Kae
Yeah, you gotta watch out for those librarians. That prissy, uptight, sexually repressed image they put forth is all an act as you found out. She probably has an inner dominatrix that comes out only at night and only online for $29.99 a month. LOL

[Zecryphon]

Heh, Zec you're not supposed to tell!! :sorry:

Kae (former librarian)
Who said I did? You could've just called me a "perv" and been done with it. You didn't have to confirm what I said! Sheesh! LOL And I volunteered in my high school's library many moons ago. Of course, I got stuck with all the old lady librarians. LOL

[WildStrawberry]

Well...I always was subversive. LOL

Kae

[WildStrawberry]

Heh, Zec you're not supposed to tell!! :sorry:

Kae (former librarian)

[Zecryphon]

Heh, Zec you're not supposed to tell!! :sorry:

Kae (former librarian)
Who said I did? You could've just called me a "perv" or asked me how I knew about such sites on the net and been done with it. But noooo. You have to go and confirm what I said! Sheesh! LOL I volunteered in my high school's library many moons ago. Of course, I got stuck with all the old lady librarians. LOL

[WildStrawberry]

well...I guess I did fall into that one huh? ;)

Kae

[Zecryphon]

well...I guess I did fall into that one huh? ;)

Kae
You may have to change your name now. Do you really want the word "wild" in your name, with others knowing what they now know about you? ^_^

[WildStrawberry]

You may have to change your name now. Do you really want the word "wild" in your name, with others knowing what they now know about you? ^_^

Well, I have to be fair and give them a warning or something...don't I? :D

[Zecryphon]

Well, I have to be fair and give them a warning or something...don't I? :D
Fairness? In this place? The hell you say! LOL

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Wow!

I just got back from the Augsburg Fortress Easter Sale in Kitchener, I think I got some great deals....
1. The Promise of Lutheran Ethics; Bloomquist and Stumme, Fortress 1998. $2.00

2. A summary of Christian Doctrine; Edward Koehler, Concordia
$4.00

3. The older interleaved dark blue Catechism; Augsburg.
$4.00

4. Another copy of Vieth's Spirituality of the Cross.
$8.00

5. Lutheran Worship Altar Book (red presentation edition) Concordia, 1982. Beautifully embossed with lots of Gold, fine grade of heavy wt. paper, both box and book wrapped in original plastic,
$4.00

It was a good day.:D

Mark

[latebloomer]

One thing I love about my husband's annual trip to the Mayo Clinic: BOOKSTORES!!! I wait all year for it. I found a novel in a Christian bookstore clearance rack--Leonardo's Chair. Leonardo da Vinci built a chair. Whoever owns it inherits his artistic talent at a terrible price. Haven't started it yet. Sounds like a DaVinci Code type but with a more Christian angle. Plus a biography of Martin Luther, Church History in Plain Language by Bruce Shelley, a history of the Reformation, Preus' Why I Am a Lutheran, and a couple others. And some storybooks for Tiger's birthday in a couple weeks, and my husband picked out a book about building sheds. I started on the Church History. Pretty interesting. I'm up to Constantine's time already.

[RadMan]

May I sugest the Bible? It's a good read. :eek:

[MarkRohfrietsch]

May I sugest the Bible? It's a good read. :eek:

Yup, got at least 12 of those! I'm in the midst of re-reading Acts.

Mark

[RadMan]

It's just interesting that the greatest theologians (the apostles) had nothing more than Jesus' teachings and the OT.

OK don't get me wrong. The "confessions", ane also Walther and Luther are not directly quoted from the Bible but they are about as close as you can get. That's the true essence of "Sola Scriptura".

[WildStrawberry]

Oh Rad. What are we going to do with you? Of COURSE I'm reading the Bible. Sheesh. Whaddya take me for? :D I'm in Jeremiah right now and feeling like I'm seeing it unfold before me...

Mark, it sounds like you had a perfectly lovely day of finds!

LateBloomer, I've heard about the Leonardo's Chair book...you'll have to let me know how it is. I put "Church History in Plain Language" on my wish list. *G* Just finishing up Why I am a Lutheran. Think I'll offer it to my Dad to read after I'm done.

Thanks everyone! My wish list is filling up! Keep 'em coming if you think of anything else.

I'm restarting "The Flames of Rome" by Maier. I realized that I'd read the first half of it when I bought it and put it down to read some library books and forgot to pick it back up! It was a good read and, upon rereading the begining, it's still a really good read.

Kae

[RadMan]

Oh Rad. What are we going to do with you? Of COURSE I'm reading the Bible. Sheesh. Whaddya take me for? :D I'm in Jeremiah right now and feeling like I'm seeing it unfold before me...

Mark, it sounds like you had a perfectly lovely day of finds!

LateBloomer, I've heard about the Leonardo's Chair book...you'll have to let me know how it is. I put "Church History in Plain Language" on my wish list. *G* Just finishing up Why I am a Lutheran. Think I'll offer it to my Dad to read after I'm done.

Thanks everyone! My wish list is filling up! Keep 'em coming if you think of anything else.

I'm restarting "The Flames of Rome" by Maier. I realized that I'd read the first half of it when I bought it and put it down to read some library books and forgot to pick it back up! It was a good read and, upon rereading the begining, it's still a really good read.

KaeThat wasn't necessarily meant for you WS. It was just a statement in general for everyone.

[DaRev]

That wasn't necessarily meant for you WS. It was just a statement in general for everyone.

I think it's safe to assume that everyone who regularly posts in this subforum does regularly read the Bible. Don't know if we can say that for the other one.

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I think it's safe to assume that everyone who regularly posts in this subforum does regularly read the Bible. Don't know if we can say that for the other one.

Now Rev.......

[synger]

Speaking of Bible reading, I was looking at Bibles in the bookstore the other day, and found a "chronological" Bible. I was almost tempted to get it, but I already have so many versions and sizes of Bibles at home that I can't justify the money for one more.

But it really looked interesting, in that the Psalms were interspersed with the books of history that they pertained to, the various prophets were near their books of history, and the various parallel passages in the Gospels were right after each other so you could easily compare and contrast them.

[Zecryphon]

May I sugest the Bible? It's a good read. :eek:
A bit wordy though, don't ya think? :P

[Zecryphon]

Speaking of Bible reading, I was looking at Bibles in the bookstore the other day, and found a "chronological" Bible. I was almost tempted to get it, but I already have so many versions and sizes of Bibles at home that I can't justify the money for one more.

But it really looked interesting, in that the Psalms were interspersed with the books of history that they pertained to, the various prophets were near their books of history, and the various parallel passages in the Gospels were right after each other so you could easily compare and contrast them.
I actually had a chronological Bible once and it was interesting. I eventually gave it away to my former church along with about 8 other Bibles I had. I didn't need all those Bibles and the Bibles that were donated went to people who couldn't afford a Bible of their own. But yeah, chronological Bibles are good I think, espeically if you're unfamiliar with when the various books were written. It puts everything into a "logical" order and people who are new to Christianity really appreciate that. I know I did.

[KimLCMS]

I just started a book club for my MOPS group. Our first book was Redeeming Love, by Francine Rivers. Now we are reading When Crickets Cry by Charles Martin. I thought they were both great.

[synger]

I really enjoyed Redeeming Love. But then, the Hosea story has always struck me strongly.

[porterross]

I've been reading more of Luther's writings and I am thoroughly enjoying them. Of course, I'm sure DeRev wishes I'd lay off so I'd stop with all the questions. :sorry:

[Zecryphon]

I've been reading more of Luther's writings and I am thoroughly enjoying them. Of course, I'm sure DeRev wishes I'd lay off so I'd stop with all the questions. :sorry:
Which ones are you reading? I'm currently reading the Bondage of the Will.

[WildStrawberry]

Kim, those 2 sound really good. Have to check out the library!

Oh MAN, Zec...you couldn't have told me you were reading that? We coulda started a group reading!

*G*

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Kim, those 2 sound really good. Have to check out the library!

Oh MAN, Zec...you couldn't have told me you were reading that? We coulda started a group reading!

*G*

Kae
How am I supposed to know what you're reading at the moment? My crystal ball is in the shop this week. LOL I'm not too far into it yet. Let me know if you still wanna do a group reading. I'll bring my Tarot Cards. LOL

[WildStrawberry]

How am I supposed to know what you're reading at the moment? My crystal ball is in the shop this week. LOL I'm not too far into it yet. Let me know if you still wanna do a group reading. I'll bring my Tarot Cards. LOL

I already sent it back to the library though. I figured I enjoyed what I read so much that I'd buy my own copy...someday. *G*

Kae

[DaRev]

I've been reading more of Luther's writings and I am thoroughly enjoying them. Of course, I'm sure DeRev wishes I'd lay off so I'd stop with all the questions. :sorry:

I don't mind at all, Sweety-kins. ;)

Which ones are you reading? I'm currently reading the Bondage of the Will.

That's the one!

[Zecryphon]

Kim, those 2 sound really good. Have to check out the library!

Oh MAN, Zec...you couldn't have told me you were reading that? We coulda started a group reading!

*G*

Kae
I'm also reading The Christian Faith by Robert Kolb and the Book of Concord. Any chance you're reading these as well?

[WildStrawberry]

Christian Faith is on my wish list at Amazon. I've been reading the BoC (the Readers edition)

Where are you in the BoC?

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Christian Faith is on my wish list at Amazon. I've been reading the BoC (the Readers edition)

Where are you in the BoC?

Kae
Just finished the Small Catechism. I actually have an extry copy of Christian Faith. I guess I could send it to you. I never got around to returning it to CPH. Duplicate Christmas gifty ya know.

[WildStrawberry]

Just finished the Small Catechism. I actually have an extry copy of Christian Faith. I guess I could send it to you. I never got around to returning it to CPH. Duplicate Christmas gifty ya know.

That's very sweet of you to consider me!

But, does your Church have a library? Perhaps you could donate it to them?

(not that I'm not appreciative, I AM!! but...*G* I'm all for Church libraries!)

Kae

[Zecryphon]

That's very sweet of you to consider me!

But, does your Church have a library? Perhaps you could donate it to them?

(not that I'm not appreciative, I AM!! but...*G* I'm all for Church libraries!)

Kae
That's very sweet of you to consider me!

But, does your Church have a library? Perhaps you could donate it to them?

Not officially. There's a portable building with books in it, but I don' that qualifies as a proper library. Oh well. I'll just hold on to it then.

(not that I'm not appreciative, I AM!! but...*G* I'm all for Church libraries!)

Kae

I think the average age in my church is 70 or so. So unless I had the large print edition I don't think anyone could read it, unfortunately. Alright. Anyone else want it?

[WildStrawberry]

Well then, if you're going to be offering it up...if no one else wants it, I'll take it. *G*

I'm never one to pass up a book! Let me know what you want for it and I'll PM you my details.

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Well then, if you're going to be offering it up...if no one else wants it, I'll take it. *G*

I'm never one to pass up a book! Let me know what you want for it and I'll PM you my details.

Kae
I don't want anything for it. Just send me the PM. But if you feel too guilty about taking a book for free, send me whatever you think is fair.

[WildStrawberry]

You're a sweetheart, Zec!

PM sent after this...*G*

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Awww! You're welcome Kae.

[WildStrawberry]

Okay, here's a question for you all...

As conservative Lutherans, how far would you trust things from Augsburg Press? Or Fortress? Is there anything from there that is good to read?

Kae

[Zecryphon]

I've never ordered anything from Augsburg so I have no opinion one way or the other. I'd need some proof of dishonesty before not trusting them.

[WildStrawberry]

well, my Kolb/Wengert translation of the BoC is from Fortress Press. But I just received a book I bought from Amazon about "My conversations with Martin Luther" and...well it seems a bit dicey...

Kae

[WildStrawberry]

Oh yeah, and what are you reading next in the BoC? If I can find a copy of Bondage tomorrow, I'll grab it and maybe Porter, you, me and anyone else who wants to join in can have a discussion on it.

That and the BoC. I think it's a great idea to read and have people to discuss these things with.

Kae

[DaRev]

Okay, here's a question for you all...

As conservative Lutherans, how far would you trust things from Augsburg Press? Or Fortress? Is there anything from there that is good to read?

Kae

It depends on the product. I absolutely hate their confirmation materials because they really push the women as pastors thing and open communion.

I take everything from Augsburg Fortress with a rather large grain of salt.

[latebloomer]

Kae, I finished Leonardo's Chair. Fast read, interesting story, but a bit creepy in places.

I have a couple Star Wars adventures from the library to finish. Then back to Why I am a Lutheran and that church history. I'm about at the beginnings of the papacy and the causes of the split between Catholic/Orthodox. At the end of every chapter there's a list of suggested reading about whatever the chapter's topic was. Bondage of the Will is on my list.

And I'm on Leviticus in NASB and Deuteronomy in ESV. Straight through in one and going back & forth between OT and NT in the other.

I frequently have more than one book going at a time.

[Zecryphon]

Kae, I figured I'd start next with the Large Catechism in the BoC. I also find myself reading the LSB daily too. Those hymns just really articulate the gospel message so well. I'm always awestruck by them.

[Tofferer]

I think I've read clean through the BoC twice. Can't say I completely understand it, however I find that I appreciate it and it is fun to look up the scripture references and think about them. I could spend days doing that.

[synger]

I've been enjoying my new chronological Bible. Reading about Saul and David now.

I bought and read the Bondage of the Will when I became a Presbyterian elder. My theology Sunday school teacher recommended it as supplementary to the Heidelberg catechism we were studying at the time. I'd love to re-read it, if we start a discussion on it.

[WildStrawberry]

Ooh which one did you get, Synger?

I just bought this one The Narrated Bible. (http://www.amazon.com/Narrated-Bible-F-LaGard-Smith/dp/0736902392/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208974808&sr=8-1) I'm really liking it.

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Ooh which one did you get, Synger?

I just bought this one The Narrated Bible. (http://www.amazon.com/Narrated-Bible-F-LaGard-Smith/dp/0736902392/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208974808&sr=8-1) I'm really liking it.

Kae
Hey what are we gonna call our book club?

[WildStrawberry]

Well, I SAW that you said "the WildStrawberry Book Club" but I totally veto that. :D

Hmm. Katie's Book Chat?

Anyone have another idea?

Martin's Theology Lectures 101?

*G*

Kae

[synger]

I got the One-Year Chronological NIV (http://http://www.amazon.com/One-Year-Chronological-Bible-NIV/dp/1414314094/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208976035&sr=1-1). It was the only one my bookstore had in hardcover. The softcovers were NIV or NLT.

Unfortunately, when I was doing my research I used the term "chronological" so your Narrated Bible didn't come up. *laughs* It looks like it's got more study helps in it.

But then, I'm looking at this more as a reading Bible than a study Bible. I have others for the in-depth stuff.

As reading Bibles go, I also REALLY like the ESV Literary Study Bible (http://www.amazon.com/Literary-Study-Bible-Hardcover-Letter/dp/1581348088/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208976175&sr=1-1). For one, I love the translation. And I love that it's single-column, set up for an easier flow of reading. But the real plus for me, as a reader, is the explanations it gives of the different forms of the writing, like the various parallel structures of the Psalms. It helps me understand why they were written the way they were, and has really opened my eyes to how better to understand them.

[Zecryphon]

Well, I SAW that you said "the WildStrawberry Book Club" but I totally veto that. :D

Hmm. Katie's Book Chat?

Anyone have another idea?

Martin's Theology Lectures 101?

*G*

Kae
I thought I put that in a PM. How'd you see it? You been hackin' into my computer... AGAIN?!?!??!? LOL

I'm drawin' a complete blank here. Maybe we should have a contest.

[synger]

I like "Book Chat".. that allows for anything from Scripture to fiction to doctrine to confessions to history...

ideas I've seen from other book clubs:

"Between the Covers"
"The Lutheran Bookies"
"Book Bites"

Is this something we want to do back here, or in TCL main forum?

[Zecryphon]

Maybe instead of a club, we can be a society. That sounds more distinguished. LOL The 1517 Society. hehehehe Our membership list will be totally secret. We'll conduct all our meetings in private. And we can even get a skull, say it's Luther's and start every reading by burning a Papal Bull. LOL It's kinda like Skull & Bones, just better. LOL

[DaRev]

Maybe instead of a club, we can be a society. That sounds more distinguished. LOL The 1517 Society. hehehehe Our membership list will be totally secret. We'll conduct all our meetings in private. And we can even get a skull, say it's Luther's and start every reading by burning a Papal Bull. LOL It's kinda like Skull & Bones, just better. LOL

I like my Papal Bull medium rare, please. :yum:

[WildStrawberry]

I got the One-Year Chronological NIV (http://http://www.amazon.com/One-Year-Chronological-Bible-NIV/dp/1414314094/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208976035&sr=1-1). It was the only one my bookstore had in hardcover. The softcovers were NIV or NLT.

Unfortunately, when I was doing my research I used the term "chronological" so your Narrated Bible didn't come up. *laughs* It looks like it's got more study helps in it.

But then, I'm looking at this more as a reading Bible than a study Bible. I have others for the in-depth stuff.

Yeah, that's what my crono Bible is for. Just to read through it.

As reading Bibles go, I also REALLY like the ESV Literary Study Bible (http://www.amazon.com/Literary-Study-Bible-Hardcover-Letter/dp/1581348088/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208976175&sr=1-1). For one, I love the translation. And I love that it's single-column, set up for an easier flow of reading. But the real plus for me, as a reader, is the explanations it gives of the different forms of the writing, like the various parallel structures of the Psalms. It helps me understand why they were written the way they were, and has really opened my eyes to how better to understand them.

Ooh, I'll have to check that out! Thanks!


I thought I put that in a PM. How'd you see it? You been hackin' into my computer... AGAIN?!?!??!? LOL

I'm drawin' a complete blank here. Maybe we should have a contest.

I'm not hackin'. You put it in another thread out in the Main forum. *G* Or maybe you transmitted it into my brain. Whichever, I saw it. ;)


I like "Book Chat".. that allows for anything from Scripture to fiction to doctrine to confessions to history...

ideas I've seen from other book clubs:

"Between the Covers"
"The Lutheran Bookies"
"Book Bites"

Is this something we want to do back here, or in TCL main forum?

I don't know...anyone have suggestions? Do we want to open it up and get thoughts and ideas from all or just keep it with the conservatives?


Maybe instead of a club, we can be a society. That sounds more distinguished. LOL The 1517 Society. hehehehe Our membership list will be totally secret. We'll conduct all our meetings in private. And we can even get a skull, say it's Luther's and start every reading by burning a Papal Bull. LOL It's kinda like Skull & Bones, just better. LOL

Um...I think someone forgot his anti-goofy pills this morning.

Acutally, I like the 1517 Society. Then it could be about more than just books...you know?

Kae

[porterross]

Ooh which one did you get, Synger?

I just bought this one The Narrated Bible. (http://www.amazon.com/Narrated-Bible-F-LaGard-Smith/dp/0736902392/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208974808&sr=8-1) I'm really liking it.

Kae
But, but, it's NIV. Is there a better translation available?

[synger]

No. *grumbles* I really wanted an ESV chronological, but the only options I found were NIV and NLT. Lesser of two evils, I guess.

[Zecryphon]

I like my Papal Bull medium rare, please. :yum:
Do you like your bull served with Cardinal Cajetan's famous bull sauce? LOL

[Zecryphon]

Yeah, that's what my crono Bible is for. Just to read through it.



Ooh, I'll have to check that out! Thanks!




I'm not hackin'. You put it in another thread out in the Main forum. *G* Or maybe you transmitted it into my brain. Whichever, I saw it. ;)




I don't know...anyone have suggestions? Do we want to open it up and get thoughts and ideas from all or just keep it with the conservatives?




Um...I think someone forgot his anti-goofy pills this morning.

Acutally, I like the 1517 Society. Then it could be about more than just books...you know?

Kae
Um...I think someone forgot his anti-goofy pills this morning.


I'm a loony Lutheran. I don't believe in anti-goofy pills, therefore they don't exist! LOL Oh the hold overs from my ND days. LOL

Acutally, I like the 1517 Society. Then it could be about more than just books...you know?

Sure, I know what you're talking about. Just keep telling yourself that.

*backs away slowly from the crazy lady holding the anti-goofy pills* LOL

[WildStrawberry]

But, but, it's NIV. Is there a better translation available?

I haven't seen one. My google-fu turned this up though...

http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/devotions/chronological/?date=2008-01-01

it's available as an RSS feed as well.

I'm a loony Lutheran. I don't believe in anti-goofy pills, therefore they don't exist! LOL Oh the hold overs from my ND days. LOL

Heh. Yeah, sure. Okay then. ;)



Sure, I know what you're talking about. Just keep telling yourself that.

*backs away slowly from the crazy lady holding the anti-goofy pills* LOL

You know you understand me...we're like...connected man! [/goofy stoner voice]

Kae

[WildStrawberry]

Ahh and some more advanced Google-fu (don't try this at home! Zec, I'm lookin' at YOU! :D) turned up this

http://eword.gospelcom.net/year/

Don't know if they're all chronological but, they give a yearly schedule.

Kae

ETA: Yes. They all have chronological applications included.

[synger]

Maybe we can call it the

die Erdbeeregesellschaft

(though I'm not sure how to pronounce it)

[Zecryphon]

Maybe we can call it the

die Erdbeeregesellschaft

(though I'm not sure how to pronounce it)
After a couple of pints of good German beer, you'll get some ideas! LOL

[Till]

Maybe we can call it the

die Erdbeeregesellschaft

(though I'm not sure how to pronounce it)

Erdbeerengesellschaft

It is easy. It is pronounced as it is written:

Ardbarangazalshapht

[Zecryphon]

I haven't seen one. My google-fu turned this up though...

http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/devotions/chronological/?date=2008-01-01

it's available as an RSS feed as well.



Heh. Yeah, sure. Okay then. ;)
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You know you understand me...we're like...connected man! [/goofy stoner voice]

Kae
You know you understand me...we're like...connected man! [/goofy stoner voice]

If I may take a moment I would like to quote Stewie Griffin when he said to Brian Griffin while sharing a meal in Amsterdam:

[goofy stoner voice]"The only reason we die, is because we accept it as an inevitability" [/goofy stoner voice]

I just wish I could find the clip of this.

[synger]

So we have at least three people who are interested in a book discussion, and at least three immediate books we're all interested in, with lots of suggestions for other ones.

What do we want to start with?


The Bondage of the Will, Martin Luther
Christian Faith, Kolb
The Book of Concord (a selection from it)
I would be most interested in the Bondage of the Will. My second choice would be something from the BoC.

[Zecryphon]

So we have at least three people who are interested in a book discussion, and at least three immediate books we're all interested in, with lots of suggestions for other ones.

What do we want to start with?


The Bondage of the Will, Martin Luther
Christian Faith, Kolb
The Book of Concord (a selection from it)
I would be most interested in the Bondage of the Will. My second choice would be something from the BoC.
I'm always up for a little bondage...

of the will that is. LOL

[porterross]

I'm always up for a little bondage...



This doesn't surprise me. ;)

[Zecryphon]

This doesn't surprise me. ;)
You all know me so well. I'm wondering when I let all this stuff slip about me. Must've been drunk posting again. LOL

[Zecryphon]

If I may take a moment I would like to quote Stewie Griffin when he said to Brian Griffin while sharing a meal in Amsterdam:

[goofy stoner voice]"The only reason we die, is because we accept it as an inevitability" [/goofy stoner voice]

I just wish I could find the clip of this.

UPDATE!!!

I've found the clip!

http://www.imeem.com/blistersandscab..._comedy_video/ (http://www.imeem.com/blistersandscabs/video/NH_VJ1_w/family_guy_stewie_brian_in_amsterdam_comedy_video/)

[porterross]

I had a buddy in college who shared his experiences in Amsterdam, but I'm only interested in the beer and sight-seeing. ;)


That show is blocked in my house, BTW. It's just odd and even more rude.

[WildStrawberry]

I've watched Family Guy in the past but...lately it's gotten to be REALLY disgusting. So I usually leave the room if someone watches it.

Hmm. I'm pretty much up for anything...of the reading sort Zec!...anyone else wants to read. I'm going to try and get to the bookstore tonight to get a copy of Bondage of the Will (since if I order it again, that library assistant may just faint.) and perhaps other things if they grab me.

Kae

[synger]

Sounds good. We'll start with Bondage, and move on from there.

I'll post a discussion thread, and give folks a few days to get the book (from library or church or by buying it).

[Zecryphon]

I've watched Family Guy in the past but...lately it's gotten to be REALLY disgusting. So I usually leave the room if someone watches it.

Hmm. I'm pretty much up for anything...of the reading sort Zec!...anyone else wants to read. I'm going to try and get to the bookstore tonight to get a copy of Bondage of the Will (since if I order it again, that library assistant may just faint.) and perhaps other things if they grab me.

Kae
Hmm. I'm pretty much up for anything...of the reading sort Zec!...

Mmm hmmm! Yeah, the reading sort, that's it! LOL I'm not even touching the "grabbing" comment.

But yeah Family Guy is hard to watch at times. There's things that are wrong and then there's things that should NEVER be said. Family Guy is usually right at the NEVER mark.

[WildStrawberry]

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-022.gif to Zec!!

I actually did get a couple of other things. A new copy of Mere Christianity 'cause my copy got caught in the "great pee of 93" (one of my cats was sick and she took to pottying in one of my boxes of books. *SIGH*)

And a copy of The Lost Books of the Bible and the Hidden Books of Eden. Or something like that. I've glanced through it a couple of times and it's interesting in a "huh" kind of way. Somethings to make you blink and go "uh yeah...right. Pull the other one" and others to make you think. Mostly the former rather than the latter though. :D

Kae

[Zecryphon]

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-022.gif to Zec!!

I actually did get a couple of other things. A new copy of Mere Christianity 'cause my copy got caught in the "great pee of 93" (one of my cats was sick and she took to pottying in one of my boxes of books. *SIGH*)

And a copy of The Lost Books of the Bible and the Hidden Books of Eden. Or something like that. I've glanced through it a couple of times and it's interesting in a "huh" kind of way. Somethings to make you blink and go "uh yeah...right. Pull the other one" and others to make you think. Mostly the former rather than the latter though. :D

Kae
Okay, that's it! We must share a brain. I too had a copy of The Lost Books of the Bible once too! LOL The funny thing about books like "The Lost Books of the Bible" is that they're not really lost so much as tossed. They didn't make it into the canon. Everybody knew about them though. If these books were really "lost" we wouldn't have books like the one you just bought telling us about the lost books, because we wouldn't know they exist. LOL

[RadMan]

So we have at least three people who are interested in a book discussion, and at least three immediate books we're all interested in, with lots of suggestions for other ones.

What do we want to start with?

The Bondage of the Will, Martin Luther
Christian Faith, Kolb
The Book of Concord (a selection from it)I would be most interested in the Bondage of the Will. My second choice would be something from the BoC.
Bondage? Where??? :sorry:

[Zecryphon]

Rad, start carryin' some handcuffs with you and you can have bondage anywhere you want! LOL Sadly, I know some sites if you need cuffs. LOL

[WildStrawberry]

Okay, that's it! We must share a brain.

Ahhh! SCARY!

It's like you're the younger brother I never wanted. ;) ;)


I too had a copy of The Lost Books of the Bible once too! LOL The funny thing about books like "The Lost Books of the Bible" is that they're not really lost so much as tossed. They didn't make it into the canon. Everybody knew about them though. If these books were really "lost" we wouldn't have books like the one you just bought telling us about the lost books, because we wouldn't know they exist. LOL

LOL Yep. Mike questioned me quite a bit on WHY I wanted something that wasn't really THE BIBLE. My main reason was "'cause I'm interested." but there was also "It's a neat study into the minds of strange people...you know, who make things up 'n stuff."

I have a feeling that most of it is going to read like Science Fiction/Fantasy. *G*

Kae

[Zecryphon]

Ahhh! SCARY!

It's like you're the younger brother I never wanted. ;) ;)




LOL Yep. Mike questioned me quite a bit on WHY I wanted something that wasn't really THE BIBLE. My main reason was "'cause I'm interested." but there was also "It's a neat study into the minds of strange people...you know, who make things up 'n stuff."

I have a feeling that most of it is going to read like Science Fiction/Fantasy. *G*

Kae
Ahhh! SCARY!

It's like you're the younger brother I never wanted. ;) ;)


Ouch! :(


LOL Yep. Mike questioned me quite a bit on WHY I wanted something that wasn't really THE BIBLE. My main reason was "'cause I'm interested." but there was also "It's a neat study into the minds of strange people...you know, who make things up 'n stuff."

I have a feeling that most of it is going to read like Science Fiction/Fantasy. *G*


From what I remember, and I probably still have that book, it's buried somewhere in the garage I'm sure, it was interesting. But alot of it too, like the Gospel of Judas, which isn't in there is always interesting to me. Exactly when did Judas have time to either teach students or write a gospel? :scratch:

[WildStrawberry]

Ouch! :(

I was teasing! :( I'm sorry. :cry:



From what I remember, and I probably still have that book, it's buried somewhere in the garage I'm sure, it was interesting. But alot of it too, like the Gospel of Judas, which isn't in there is always interesting to me. Exactly when did Judas have time to either teach students or write a gospel? :scratch:

Heh, yep. Proof that it was written sometime in the centuries after he died.

Kae

[Zecryphon]

I was teasing! :( I'm sorry. :cry:





Heh, yep. Proof that it was written sometime in the centuries after he died.

Kae

I was teasing! :( I'm sorry. :cry:


I know you luv me. I was just actin' all butt-hurt when I really wasn't. LOL

[WildStrawberry]

I know you luv me. I was just actin' all butt-hurt when I really wasn't. LOL

SEE! JUST like a younger brother! *G* You make me all

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-109.gif

you know? :D

Kae

[Zecryphon]

SEE! JUST like a younger brother! *G* You make me all

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-109.gif

you know? :D

Kae
I can't be that much younger than you. We like the same tv shows, we like the same books. When it comes to music, I'm pretty sure I'm the ONLY Iron Maiden fan in here. Or at least the only one willing to admit it. LOL

[LilLamb219]

Wanna bet? In 9th grade I did an oil pastel drawing of the creature...what was his name...eddy? The guys in my bio class thought it was awesome and were bidding money on it to buy it from me! I ended up just giving it to the cutest guy. :blush:


I can't be that much younger than you. We like the same tv shows, we like the same books. When it comes to music, I'm pretty sure I'm the ONLY Iron Maiden fan in here. Or at least the only one willing to admit it. LOL

[WildStrawberry]

Yep, I don't listen much anymore (I'm usually listening to talk radio. *G*) but in my day I liked Iron Maiden! (sounds of air guitars playing)

You're 3 or 4 years younger than me...just about the same age as my sister and younger brother. And Mike. I'd say that's younger brother territory ;)

Kae

[porterross]

Bondage? Where??? :sorry:


:o :ebil: ;)

[DaRev]

:o :ebil: ;)

:eek:

[RadMan]

Iron maiden? More like Iron Butterfly for me.

In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

YEA! :clap:

I used to play that in church when I was practicing for the service. Hope I don't need to do penance.

In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?

Oh won'tcha come with me,
and take my hand?
Oh won'tcha come with me,
and walk this land?

Please take my hand...

Let me tell ya now.
In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?

Oh won'tcha come with me,
and take my hand?
Oh won'tcha come with me,
and walk this land?

Please take my hand...

Let me tell ya.


Two,three,four!

In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?


http://shopbase.finetunes.net/shopserver/BinaryCacheServlet?albumid=1186745316880&datatype=fc300

[Zecryphon]

Wanna bet? In 9th grade I did an oil pastel drawing of the creature...what was his name...eddy? The guys in my bio class thought it was awesome and were bidding money on it to buy it from me! I ended up just giving it to the cutest guy. :blush:
Yeah the creature's name is Eddie. Actually, the creature's name was originally Electric Matthew and was a random painting that Derek Riggs, who did all the Maiden cover art for their albums, kept in his art portfolio as an example of what he could do. Was this pastel a drawing of an existing cover or did you do something different?

[Zecryphon]

Yep, I don't listen much anymore (I'm usually listening to talk radio. *G*) but in my day I liked Iron Maiden! (sounds of air guitars playing)

You're 3 or 4 years younger than me...just about the same age as my sister and younger brother. And Mike. I'd say that's younger brother territory ;)

Kae
I always end up being somebody's younger brother. It never fails! LOL

[seajoy]

Iron maiden? More like Iron Butterfly for me.

In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

YEA! :clap:

I used to play that in church when I was practicing for the service. Hope I don't need to do penance.

In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?

Oh won'tcha come with me,
and take my hand?
Oh won'tcha come with me,
and walk this land?

Please take my hand...

Let me tell ya now.
In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?

Oh won'tcha come with me,
and take my hand?
Oh won'tcha come with me,
and walk this land?

Please take my hand...

Let me tell ya.


Two,three,four!

In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?


http://shopbase.finetunes.net/shopserver/BinaryCacheServlet?albumid=1186745316880&datatype=fc300
I'm listening to it on YouTube right now.

My neighbor used to sing it do his dog when he gave him a tranqualizer (from the vet :) ) at our 4th of July parties. The little fat dachsund seemed to love it, of course he was most mellow to anything on that one day a year. ^_^

[LilLamb219]

The drawing I did was just a copy of the creature. I wasn't good enough to create on my own!

Yeah the creature's name is Eddie. Actually, the creature's name was originally Electric Matthew and was a random painting that Derek Riggs, who did all the Maiden cover art for their albums, kept in his art portfolio as an example of what he could do. Was this pastel a drawing of an existing cover or did you do something different?

[seajoy]

Sorry to get off topic *still swingin' to the beat*

I am reading a wonderful book right now from Pastor Mark A Paustian (WELS), called: Prepared to Answer

It's the first book, and the 2nd is, More Prepared to Answer

He was one of my daughter's profs at college. The book is great. When speaking to a seeker, it tells you how to say more than "come to church with me sometime." Which I hate to say, gets me "off the hook" sometimes. We need to be more prepared than that.

[synger]

Sounds rather similar to Evidence that Demands a Verdict, with answers to many of the common arguments non-Christians make about the authority of Scripture, historical evidence for Jesus and the early Church, misunderstandings of basic doctrines, etc.

[Zecryphon]

My first pastor wrote a book like that called Give Me An Answer. Here's a link to both the Give Me An Answer page:

http://www.givemeananswer.org/main/home/index.html

and a link about the book:

http://www.givemeananswer.org/main/home/index.html

[DominusIesus]

Some good books by N. T. Wright are:
1. Simply Christian
2. Surprised by Hope
3. Christian Origins and the Question of God

[RadMan]

Some good books by N. T. Wright are:
1. Simply Christian
2. Surprised by Hope
3. Christian Origins and the Question of GodWright is Anglican. This is a Lutheran sub forum.

[DominusIesus]

Wright is Anglican. This is a Lutheran sub forum.

There is no real difference between a evangelical Anglican and a Lutheran in terms of belief, the Thirty-Nine Articles were based upon the Augsburg Confession. The Thirty-nine Articles developed from the Forty-Two Articles, written by Archbishop Cranmer in 1553 “for the avoiding of controversy in opinions.” These had been partly derived from the Thirteen Articles of 1538, designed as the basis of an agreement between Henry VIII and the German Lutheran princes, which had been influenced by the Lutheran Augsburg Confession (1530).

[DaRev]

There are many differences between Anglican and Lutherans in terms of belief. How each views the Scriptures is one big difference.

[RadMan]

There is no real difference between a evangelical Anglican and a Lutheran in terms of belief, the Thirty-Nine Articles were based upon the Augsburg Confession. The Thirty-nine Articles developed from the Forty-Two Articles, written by Archbishop Cranmer in 1553 “for the avoiding of controversy in opinions.” These had been partly derived from the Thirteen Articles of 1538, designed as the basis of an agreement between Henry VIII and the German Lutheran princes, which had been influenced by the Lutheran Augsburg Confession (1530).As I said. This is a "protected" Lutheran sub-forum and only Conservative/confessionals post here. You obviously are Anglican and need to stay in the main TCL forum. Read our forum rules for posters