In The Beginning...

[Asavedo]

What is the Fundamentalist's teaching on why God even made man? What was our "purpose", if you will, before sin ever entered into the world? Why were we put here? What would we have done all day had sin not entered into the world through Adam? Please, if you can, I'd love the scripture referrences to your replies too. Thanx for any and all thoughts ahead of time... :D

[TwinCrier]

Honestly the only reason there seems to be for God creating man is for fellowship. 1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. That's why anyone want to create beings in their image {children} It seems that all living beings want to reproduce themselves or create one of their kind. If God is really love as the bible says, doesn't He need someone TO LOVE?

[Svt4Him]

If I have a bunch of love, and I keep it to myself, what good is it?

What would we have done all day had sin not entered into the world through Adam? Played Mario64. Can't really give you a Scripture, as the Bible doesn't talk a lot about what could be. I guess heaven will be the closest thing to what it should have been like, but I don't know.

[Asavedo]

If I have a bunch of love, and I keep it to myself, what good is it?

But there is the Trinity... so God's love can be complete through expression simply through and to Himself.

Played Mario64. Can't really give you a Scripture, as the Bible doesn't talk a lot about what could be. I guess heaven will be the closest thing to what it should have been like, but I don't know.

*nods* That's what I'm wondering about. Thanx anyway.

[Asavedo]

Honestly the only reason there seems to be for God creating man is for fellowship. 1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. That's why anyone want to create beings in their image {children} It seems that all living beings want to reproduce themselves or create one of their kind. If God is really love as the bible says, doesn't He need someone TO LOVE?

This view is hard for me to grasp. This view says to me that God had a desire for something that could not be fulfilled in and of Himself exclusively. If that's the way it is, *shrugs*, then that's the way it is, but just to speculate that that's why He made us without any scripture proof that that's true sole purpose of it all... again, *shrugs*, tough to just swallow.

[Wilfred of Ivanhoe]

This view is hard for me to grasp. This view says to me that God had a desire for something that could not be fulfilled in and of Himself exclusively. If that's the way it is, *shrugs*, then that's the way it is, but just to speculate that that's why He made us without any scripture proof that that's true sole purpose of it all... again, *shrugs*, tough to just swallow.

Scripture also teaches that God doesn't need fellowship.

Acts 17:The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man, [2] 25 nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything.

[Asar'el]

Revelation 4:11

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou
hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Seems pretty simple, no ? It pleased God to create. No 'need'.

As to what we would have done, had Adam not sinned...

Larger Cathechism
Q1: What is the chief and highest end of man ?
A1: Man's chief and highest end is to glorify God, and fully to enjoy Him forever.

How we might have done that without sin is a matter of wild thought (so to speak). But think, if you can, of what mankind might have achieved without sin! Perhaps that's why the universe is so vast ... we surely would be far among the stars by now! No sin, no death. What limit is there ?

It would have been a different world, for sure; but one in which we would not (experientially) know (as the elect angels cannot) the grace of God that made the sacrifice of Christ a reality for us.

Does the mind not boggle, lol, both ways ?

[Eusebios]

It would have been a different world, for sure; but one in which we would not (experientially) know (as the elect angels cannot) the grace of God that made the sacrifice of Christ a reality for us.

Does the mind not boggle, lol, both ways ?
Mind boggling yes. But I would assert that we would in fact know God's grace experientially, though Christ's sacrifice would nor have been necessary. The incarnation would have taken place none the less, for man's ultimate theosis.
Under His Mercy,
Eusebios.
:bow:

[Asar'el]

Mind boggling yes. But I would assert that we would in fact know God's grace experientially, though Christ's sacrifice would nor have been necessary. Though yhe incarnation would have taken place none the less, for man's ultimate theosis.
Under His Mercy,
Eusebios.
:bow:
I was speaking specifically of that grace of the sacrifice; call it Mercy :) The elect angels have no need of it, the fallen ones cannot obtain it; the elect of God are (in that sense) the only ones blessed with it.

An interesting point about the incarnation; perhaps more suited for another thread; but before engaging in it, prayer and meditation is required, for I am not certain such speculation would be profitable for us...

[Eusebios]

... An interesting point about the incarnation; perhaps more suited for another thread; but before engaging in it, prayer and meditation is required, for I am not certain such speculation would be profitable for us...
I'm not certain how discussion of the incarnation and or man's theosis would be speculation. I mean, in terms of the OP, there has already been a good deal of speculation, including your own.
His unworthy servant,
Eusebios.
:prayer:

[Asar'el]

I'm not certain how discussion of the incarnation and or man's theosis would be speculation. I mean, in terms of the OP, there has already been a good deal of speculation, including your own.
His unworthy servant,
Eusebios.
:prayer:
Once again, I was referring in context with the start of this thread, and my reply to it; to wit, the discussion of incarnation would be speculation in the context of, would there have been an incarnation had Adam not tresspassed that first commandment. You are the one that suggested that the incarnation would have taken place nonetheless.