Which prayer book do you like better and why?

[Zacharias]

I'm looking into purchasing either the Jordanville prayer book, or the Holy Transfiguration Monastery prayer book. :)

Which one do you prefer to use? Why do prefer to use it?


Thanks!
Lokken

[ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs]

Woah, I was just thinking about starting a thread on this. I'm looking for a good one as well.

[Mytheodos]

Jordanville prayer book online...:thumbsup:

http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/prayerbook/main.htm

[Zacharias]

Jordanville prayer book online...:thumbsup:

http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/prayerbook/main.htm

Thanks for the link! I had read it online before. I couldn't find anything on the Holy Transfiguration Monastery prayer book. I hear that it is similar to the Jordanville except being from the Greek instead of Russian. Are there any other differences besides that? :)

[Mytheodos]

http://www.archangelsbooks.com/prodimages/Large/Books/HTRPRAYER-01.jpg Orthodox Prayer Book
Jordanville Edition
Contains Morning and evening prayers, excerpts from Vespers and Matins, the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, troparia and kontakia of Sundays and major feasts, canons and akathists, prayers before and after Communion, and a supplement on "How One Should Pray in Church."
Hardbound. 402 pp.


Our Price: $16.95



http://www.archangelsbooks.com/prodimages/Large/Books/HTMPRAYBK-01.jpg Prayer Book for Orthodox Christians, A
Holy Transfiguration Monastery Edition

Contains Morning Prayers and Prayers at Mealtime, and the complete services of Small Compline, Vespers, Matins, and the Divine Liturgy, together with the principal hymns of the feasts of the year, and the complete Service of Pascha. Also included are the Akathist Hymn to our Sweetest Lord Jesus Christ, the Akathist Hymn to the Most Holy Theotokos, a Supplicatory Canon to our Lord Jesus Christ, both the Small and the Great Supplicatory Canons to the Most Holy Theotokos (translated to fit the Greek melodies), a Supplicatory Canon to the Guardian Angel, and the Communion Prayers. Legible type in a volume that can be easily held, for use at home and at Church, printed in black and red throughout.

Hardbound. 384 pp.


Our Price: $16.95

This is the description given at Archangelsbooks.com.Both are available at this site:thumbsup:
Here's the link...
http://www.archangelsbooks.com/default.asp

[Mytheodos]

Here's more info on the Holy Transfiguration Monastery book....

Translated from the Greek by the Holy Transfiguration Monastery

“The Apostle of the Nations enjoins us to ‘pray without ceasing,’ and this goal of uninterrupte noetic prayer remains the goal of every Christian. In our times, however, we are faced with demands and distractions which make this goal all the more difficult. We would therefore especially urge all Christians to spend time in prayer in the morning, to remember the prayers before and after meals, and to read the Service of Small Compline in the evening. Every day, monastics are enjoined to read the Akathist to the Theotokos as part of their daily rule of prayer, and we would also commend this practice to all Orthodox Christians. These are small things, and yet the establishment of them as a cycle of daily prayers is of very great importance to our spiritual life[.]”
—“Preface”

CONTENTS

Preface
Morning Prayers
Prayers at Mealtime
The Service of Small Compline
The Service of Vespers
The Service of Matins
The Divine Liturgy
Dismissal Hymns of the Resurrection
Dismissal Hymns and Theotokia for Weekdays
Dismissal Hymns and Kontakia of the Feasts of the Master and the Mother of God
Dismissal Hymns and Kontakia of the Triodion
Dismissal Hymns and Kontakia for Holy Week
The Service of Matins for the Holy and Great Sunday of Pascha
The Paschal Hours
Dismissal Hymns and Kontakia of the Pentecostarion
The Akathist Hymn to our Sweetest Lord Jesus Christ
The Akathist Hymn to the Most Holy Theotokos
A Supplicatory Canon to our Lord Jesus Christ
The Service of the Small Supplicatory Canon to the Most Holy Theotokos
The Service of the Great Supplicatory Canon to the Most Holy Theotokos
A Supplicatory Canon to the Guardian Angel of a Man’s Life
The Service of Preparation for Holy Communion
Thanksgiving After Holy Communion
Item Number: BKHT347C
Publication data: Boston, MA: Holy Transfiguration Monastery, 2005
Format: hardcover
Number of pages: xviii + 366
Dimensions (l × w × h): 17.3 cm × 12.3 cm × 2.7 cm
Additional information: two-color printing, two-color illustrations
ISBN: 0‒943405‒01‒7

[Mytheodos]

Oh, And here's the contents on the Jordanville book...

CONTENTS

Morning Prayers
Prayers during the Day
Prayers before Sleep
Selections from Vespers
Selections from Matins
The Divine Liturgy
Sunday Troparia and Kontakia
Daily Troparia and Kontakia
Troparia and Kontakia of the Twelve Feasts
Troparia, Kontakia, Prayers, and Stichera from the Triodion
Passion Week Troparia
PASCHA
The Paschal Hours
Troparia and Kontakia from the Pentecostarion
Supplicatory Canon to Our Lord Jesus Christ
Supplicatory Canon to the Most Holy Theotokos
Canon to the Guardian Angel
Akathist to Our Sweetest Lord Jesus
Akathist to Our Most Holy Lady the Theotokos
Canon of Repentance to Our Lord Jesus Christ
The Order of Preparation for Holy Communion
Prayers after Holy Communion
How One Should Pray in Church
The Order for Reading Canons and Akathists When Alone
Concerning the Jesus Prayer
Item Number: BKJ240C
Publication data: Jordanville, NY: Holy Trinity Monastery, 2003
Format: hardcover
Number of pages: 408
Dimensions (l × w × h): 16.0 cm × 12.1 cm × 2.3 cm
Additional information: black-and-white illustrations
ISBN: 0‒88465‒074‒X

[Thekla]

I'm not sure about the Jordanville,
but Holy Transfiguration Monastery uses low acid paper ; their books are made to last.

[Mary of Bethany]

I don't have the HTM prayerbook, only the Jordanville. I consider it my "main" prayerbook, though I use others, too.

The Jordanville has all the Canons and Preparation Prayers used for preparing for Communion, which I like.

Mary

[jckstraw72]

im down with Jordanville but theyre both pretty phatty. Jordanville has hte Canon of Repentance which I really like, but HTM has The Small AND Great Canon to the Theotokos which is good for Dormition. I also like that HTM has Small Compline, but I like that Jordanville has separate evening prayers. I got Jordanville for Christmas and I'm cool with it.

[JustinHesychast]

Does anyone know if they fold out flat, so one can lay them on the table while praying without them closing? Or must they be held open with the left hand?

[Zacharias]

Thanks for the replies! :)

[jckstraw72]

um prolly need to be held open

[Thekla]

Does anyone know if they fold out flat, so one can lay them on the table while praying without them closing? Or must they be held open with the left hand?
a book with a sewn binding should be able to withstand that sort of use without losing pages, cracked spine, etc.

when you go to order, ask the publisher if the pages are sewn or glued :)

[Anhelyna]

I like and use the Jordanville - not seen the HTM one but I have to admit that my favourite is the Old Orthodox Prayer Book from Erie .

After you have used any book for a while ,Justin, they will stay flat , more or less :) , on a table . You can always use a marker to hold your page in case they do shut :)

[angelosgabriel]

I use the little red pocket one put out by the Antiochians, which is great for me while I'm beginning the faith. I like it because it goes wherever I go. It would be nice to have a more extensive one for the home!

[Andrew21091]

I like and use the Jordanville - not seen the HTM one but I have to admit that my favourite is the Old Orthodox Prayer Book from Erie

I'm with you there. I love the Old Orthodox Prayer Book. I think that one is the best. I really like the Jordanville prayer book too. But really, if you really want a recomendation for a prayer book, the best place to turn is your spiritual father.

[Matrona]

I like Jordanville because it's made by real Orthodox rather than schismatic weirdos. :P

[Nichole]

I use the little red pocket one put out by the Antiochians, which is great for me while I'm beginning the faith. I like it because it goes wherever I go. It would be nice to have a more extensive one for the home!
We use the Antiochian one too! I love it and everytime we travel it goes with us! :D

[jckstraw72]

I like Jordanville because it's made by real Orthodox rather than schismatic weirdos.

yeah its a shame that the ppl doing so much great printing are shismatic weirdos

[Anhelyna]

I like Jordanville because it's made by real Orthodox rather than schismatic weirdos. :P
Matrona

just who are the schismatic weirdos to whom you referred ?

[Khaleas]

yeah its a shame that the ppl doing so much great printing are shismatic weirdos
There are even more scismatic weirdos now since St John of Kronstadt press folks left ROCOR as well...

[Matrona]

Matrona

just who are the schismatic weirdos to whom you referred ?
HOCNA, the so-called "Holy Orthodox Church of North America", which controls Holy Transfiguration Monastery in Brookline, MA, among other places. In other words, when you buy from HTM (or any of HOCNA's other monasteries), you are lining the pockets of people who make a mockery of the monastic life and the Orthodox Faith.

[Zacharias]

HOCNA, the so-called "Holy Orthodox Church of North America", which controls Holy Transfiguration Monastery in Brookline, MA, among other places. In other words, when you buy from HTM (or any of HOCNA's other monasteries), you are lining the pockets of people who make a mockery of the monastic life and the Orthodox Faith.

Why do online Orthodox stores (such as Life&Light) carry their books? :confused:

[Khaleas]

Why do online Orthodox stores (such as Life&Light) carry their books? :confused:
Unfortunately they are the only ones who publish certain books used... or their version is considerably better than the book published by a canonical jurisdiction.

[Zacharias]

Unfortunately they are the only ones who publish certain books used... or their version is considerably better than the book published by a canonical jurisdiction.

That makes sense.

[Orthocat]

Does anyone know if they fold out flat, so one can lay them on the table while praying without them closing? Or must they be held open with the left hand?


If you wear out a prayer book -
then God's blessings will certainly be upon you!!! :)