View Full Version : Do you think there will be revival in the near future?
Neenie
4th June 2004, 03:15 AM
Hi,
I went to a large conference called open heavens earlier in the year, and the preacher was given prophetic words that Australia is about to have a huge revival! and that millions will turn to God, He called Australia "the great southern land of the holy spirit" everyone agreed and chanted revival... However I remained skeptical and thought this is what they have been saying about America for years, despite the fact that the whole world is moving further away from God (except for 3rd world places). The latest census in Australia shows an overall rapid decline of mainstream Christianity since 1920, though there has been quite increase in alternative religion.
My question is that how do people come up with the idea that God told them there will be a revival coming? I know there was revivals in the OT, but the scriptures clearly say there will only be apostasy in the last days, and that evil will wax worse and worse... which is very evident in our day and age.
Maybe these preachers are just trying to spread a positive message or something. But I believe in my heart there is no revival coming, even within the church.....There is no evidence to support it.
Call me a doom and gloomer ;)
Janine
TwinCrier
4th June 2004, 11:16 AM
I agree with you. We are entering the end times and people are becoming more evil. Small revivials in certain areas might be happening, but I don't expect to see anything on a grand scale ever again.
LuxPerpetua
4th June 2004, 11:28 AM
We are seeing major revivals in Africa right now, which is a great thing. However, I doubt that we'll see much happen in wealthy/industrialized countries because wealth is always an impediment to spirituality. I hope I'm wrong, though.
Grace_Alone4gives
4th June 2004, 12:04 PM
Hi,
I went to a large conference called open heavens earlier in the year, and the preacher was given prophetic words that Australia is about to have a huge revival! and that millions will turn to God, He called Australia "the great southern land of the holy spirit" everyone agreed and chanted revival... However I remained skeptical and thought this is what they have been saying about America for years, despite the fact that the whole world is moving further away from God (except for 3rd world places). The latest census in Australia shows an overall rapid decline of mainstream Christianity since 1920, though there has been quite increase in alternative religion.
My question is that how do people come up with the idea that God told them there will be a revival coming? I know there was revivals in the OT, but the scriptures clearly say there will only be apostasy in the last days, and that evil will wax worse and worse... which is very evident in our day and age.
Maybe these preachers are just trying to spread a positive message or something. But I believe in my heart there is no revival coming, even within the church.....There is no evidence to support it.
Call me a doom and gloomer ;)
JanineI may get slammed for this, but I advise to take a prophesy given at any 'conference' with a grain of salt. Rah Rah's and Hip Hip Horays don't mean that a prophetic word is accurate. Although I do believe in prophetic words...revivals can happen anytime anywhere - and may simply start with one person spreading God's words until it catches like wildfire, saving many. It needs no accompany of mass hysteria. JMO.
I hope it is true though - I would love to see millions saved anywhere...be it Australia or even here in Canada! I pray for it.
TheTempleTeam
4th June 2004, 03:43 PM
There is a revival going on in the UK at present, in areas.... and will continue and spread over the Summer. In fact, it will speed up! You may actually see it on the news by the end of summer, I wouldn't be suprised at all! Pray for the UK guys :) Please. God is really softening the hearts of the people, the big cities are really being blasted by the Spirit at the moment. It's incredible. I'm heading down to London in Late July/Early August for a huge mission event and worship weekend. It's in the very centre of the city, trafalgar square (very famous) and there should be around 30,000 Christians there! It's going to be incredible :)
Roll on 'The Summer Of Love' :D May God prepare the hearts of those that will be effected and reached now.
The Lord is my banner
5th June 2004, 05:22 PM
TheTempleTeam - where? I haven't heard of it.
But I agree, keep praying. the UK was blessed by a number of revivals, I think it was 2 or 3 hundred years ago, and repentance and prayer was ALWAYS the trigger.
At the moment though, Asia is the place I believe. China and Korea have had enormous numbers saved, and are also undergoing persecution.
I think we often mean different things from each other when we speak of revival.
To some it means a number of people experiencing renewal of faith, to others miraculous events.
Others, of which I'm one, would say it's when there are massive numbers touched by God, with repentance inside the churches first, then people from within church really being renewed, and outsiders begging to be shown how to find Christ. Church services sometimes lasted days, and sailors still on their ships at sea in Wales were literally "decked" by the glory of God hovering over the area.
I want to see that, i want my own husband saved, and I have prayed, but who knows?
Let's keep at it!
God bless, Susana
Kas
6th June 2004, 07:47 AM
Hi,
I went to a large conference called open heavens earlier in the year, and the preacher was given prophetic words that Australia is about to have a huge revival! and that millions will turn to God, He called Australia "the great southern land of the holy spirit" everyone agreed and chanted revival... However I remained skeptical and thought this is what they have been saying about America for years, despite the fact that the whole world is moving further away from God (except for 3rd world places). The latest census in Australia shows an overall rapid decline of mainstream Christianity since 1920, though there has been quite increase in alternative religion.
My question is that how do people come up with the idea that God told them there will be a revival coming? I know there was revivals in the OT, but the scriptures clearly say there will only be apostasy in the last days, and that evil will wax worse and worse... which is very evident in our day and age.
Maybe these preachers are just trying to spread a positive message or something. But I believe in my heart there is no revival coming, even within the church.....There is no evidence to support it.
Call me a doom and gloomer ;)
Janine
I think there can be but we have to stop talking bout it as if it is some event out of our hands! (Kas puts on anti stoning device) when we stop speaking about our faith and start to reflect upon how to put it into practice with and unashamedly Christian identity, then we will begin to see a Christian revival: that means personally, and socially, and politically and economically! Revivals in the past happened when people started acting on their faith! Usually lead by some charasmatic (no reference to the denomination) leader/preacher!
Peace, and love
Kas.
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
6th June 2004, 07:08 PM
There are revivals going on at every place at every time. Wherever there are lies, the truth will again revive itself. As for Australia being the Great Land of the South..... :P Hope the revival works wonders though!
Duggie
7th June 2004, 05:49 PM
Interestingly one of the signs of the end times is actually the opposite of revival.
"then many false prophets will rise up and decieve many and because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold." Mathew 24:11-12)
I would genuingly love to see some scriptures that say revival and salvation on a grand scale will take place. Anyone can help please post. :)
Asar'el
8th June 2004, 12:50 AM
I'm sorry to think there won't be a great revival coming - especially because I can't shake that thought, and I think we need a revival of revivalists ...
Too many people ( I included ) often overlook that it is not the times, or the people, that causes revival, but the Spirit of God Almighty. I'm not sure why, when I know God's power, I can't seem to bring myself to expect a revival. Does anyone else feel like a gloomy darkness is laid on the world ??
Perhaps it is the sad state that the world seems to be in - but that should be even more encouragement for God's people to pray for revival! Perhaps it is the expectation of the end times (some might say desire for it!).
It is great to meet (or read, as above) of people both experiencing and praying for revival; I'm a bit wary of modern prophecies and predictions, but it is still good to see people expecting revivals. Never forget, or underestimate, the power of prayer.
Gunny
8th June 2004, 01:41 PM
The countries that worship that which is created rather than the Creator, IMHO are not experiencing revial.
Third world countries are in great revial.
TheTempleTeam
8th June 2004, 01:49 PM
I wouldn't completely agree, I think God's working Worldwide! Not just in the third world :)
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
8th June 2004, 02:49 PM
He is working worldwide, but the 3rd world countries are strongholds for Christ. One pure 3rd world believer is worth more than many fake 1st world believers
Perceivence
8th June 2004, 02:58 PM
Sheesh. You people talk almost as if it's the first time the third world is hearing about Jesus....
Anyway, I think that a revival or something of the sort is probably a requisite to the end:
Matthew 24: 3, 14
3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
All the nations must hear it first.
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
8th June 2004, 03:00 PM
All nations have heard it, and had heard it from a long time ago
Perceivence
8th June 2004, 03:02 PM
On the contrary. You'd be surprised to know the number of people who haven't.
kdet
8th June 2004, 03:06 PM
IMO God is such a merciful God that He will want to reach as many people as possible in order for them to have an opportunity to accept Him, and in order for that to happen we MUST have a great revival.
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
8th June 2004, 05:51 PM
People is not the same as nations
Gunny
9th June 2004, 05:15 PM
He is working worldwide, but the 3rd world countries are strongholds for Christ. One pure 3rd world believer is worth more than many fake 1st world believers
AMEN, Brother in Christ!
Beauty4Ashes
9th June 2004, 10:35 PM
to the OP, was it a Todd Bentley conference you were at? just curious
little_tigress
10th June 2004, 12:54 AM
I believe that we are living in the last days and there will be no great revival coming. I think there might be revivals in small groups, but nothing as big as an entire country coming to know Christ.
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
10th June 2004, 01:29 AM
We are living in the end times, but why no more revivals? Do you think God will just give up in the time before judgement?
Asar'el
10th June 2004, 01:37 AM
One thing I have found weighs heavy with me is the second part of Luke, 18:8, where Christ asks, as it were,
Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Is this not a rhetorical question, with the sad answer, 'No', implied ? I find myself hoping it is not, but more often than not unable to shake the feeling it is.
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
10th June 2004, 11:27 PM
Indeed. Faith is something many claim to have but few do anymore :(
Neenie
11th June 2004, 01:33 AM
to the OP, was it a Todd Bentley conference you were at? just curious
Yes it was, I was invited to the conference by a friend. I don't know what you think of him, apparently he performed healings and all (i wasn't at the other dates) but he went on about about the revival, and most people agreed except for me :)
I would love to see a revival here where I live, but isn't going to happen. If there was a revival it wouldn't last long Because there is too much influence from the media and America..... We need to remind ourselves that world is different from what is was 200 years ago. A revival would have been possible before then, but not in our modern times. Things are going to continue to get worse and worse....but it's true.
Do I not have enough faith? :sigh:
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
11th June 2004, 01:40 AM
No, I think you are seeing things just right. The way America is now, its going to decline very rapidly very soon. That influence may soon be removed and you may actually see a huge revival!
Beauty4Ashes
11th June 2004, 02:31 AM
Yes it was, I was invited to the conference by a friend. I don't know what you think of him, apparently he performed healings and all (i wasn't at the other dates) but he went on about about the revival, and most people agreed except for me :)
I would love to see a revival here where I live, but isn't going to happen. If there was a revival it wouldn't last long Because there is too much influence from the media and America..... We need to remind ourselves that world is different from what is was 200 years ago. A revival would have been possible before then, but not in our modern times. Things are going to continue to get worse and worse....but it's true.
Do I not have enough faith? :sigh:
I didn't go to his last healing prophetic conference but a couple of my good friends did. I did go to the Soaking in the secret place in january and also the apostolic conference in april.
I've seen him heal people but I've also seen many other people at his conferences heal people and the last one I was at even I healed a couple people. There is some major annointing there for sure. The january conference totally changed my life. About the revival stuff, I've heard some of that and I'm not too sure myself. It would be wonderful to have revival and I do think its going to be happening and already is happening now and in the near future. But our timeline and God's are so different that the near future could mean a whole slew of different things. Regardless, God wants to do big things in these days. That I believe.
NJA
12th June 2004, 07:38 PM
People are revived spiritually when they turn back to God's way of salvation:-
"And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. . . . Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear . . . For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." (Acts 2v4, 33, 39)
Whether this happens in great or small numbers makes no difference as "none of the sheep shall be lost". The wise thing is to make sure that you are revived, then God will use you to bring it to others.
Try this church:-
http://www.trf.org.au
Seeing true sustained revival in Australia, USA and Europe etc
Marissa
13th June 2004, 05:28 AM
IMO God is such a merciful God that He will want to reach as many people as possible in order for them to have an opportunity to accept Him, and in order for that to happen we MUST have a great revival.
How so?
In order for God to reach people and for people to have an opportuntity to accept Christi the Gospel has to be spread. Whether or not it is accepted is an entirely separate kettle of fish.
God will get the word out. It's still up to us whether or not we'll live by it.
I hope there will be a revival and I pray that I'll be used (and that every christian will be willing to be used) to spread the gospel. Yet, if people aren't seeking the truth rather than a goodtime, what can be done?
PaladinGirl
21st June 2004, 01:18 PM
I honestly don't think there will be any huge and widespread revival among the church as a whole anytime soon. I believe we are in the end times and one of the signs of the end times is that there will be a great apostasy in the church which I can honestly say that I see happening more and more each and every day. I believe that there will still be some revivals in local churches and on a local scale but I don't think there will be any huge widespread revival. As I'd say in Networking terms, we might have a LAN (Local Area Network which generally is about the size of one or two computer labs) revival but not a WAN (Wide Area Network which can be as large as a nation-wide or even world-wide network) revival. lol
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
21st June 2004, 03:08 PM
It only takes a small change to change a LAN, and a true Christian LAN to start affecting a WAN. It is not about size, but about whether the people are really dedicated to God.
Harry the Heretic
22nd June 2004, 01:39 AM
I do not know if I would call it a revival but I believe that the home church movement will get a lot bigger in the next few years.
little_tigress
22nd June 2004, 01:59 AM
Its a sad statement but I agree with you, the less churches there are willing to stand up for the word of God the more home churches we'll see.
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
22nd June 2004, 02:02 AM
Well, a lot of true churches started that way. Look at Acts, almost all were house churches. Maybe it'll help?
Harry the Heretic
23rd June 2004, 12:46 AM
It is interesting to note how homeshcooling has grown because parents have drawn a land in the sand concerning their children. The Internet has allowed grass roots movements a lot of support and organization. I think many Christians have spring boarded off of this into other areas.
So in one way the home church is quite archaic, but in another it has the potential to be very progressive.
Yet another Christian paradox.:D
premilldispensationalist
27th June 2004, 07:03 AM
Hi,
ICall me a doom and gloomer ;)
Janine
Janine you are a doom and gloomer however I agree with you.
Regards,
Richard Sherratt
Lady_Firehawk
28th June 2004, 12:54 AM
Sometimes I almost hope all this steadily anti-Christian sentiment in Amrica leads to greater intolerance of Christians, maybe full-blown persecution... that'll seperate the wheat from the tares in a hurry!
joe_mikol
29th June 2004, 08:53 PM
A revival can happen anywhere at anytime, and they happen in small, seemingly insignificant countries all the time. The problem with the world's major countries, like the US, is that no one has faith. The Lord can only do as much as we believe He can, and until someone stands up, called by the Holy Spirit, to insight this faith, then no revivals will occur. However, I believe that there will be all kinds of revivals, and all we need is just that: belief, faith.
In Christ,
Joe
Bizzlebin Imperatoris
2nd July 2004, 10:44 PM
Sometimes I almost hope all this steadily anti-Christian sentiment in Amrica leads to greater intolerance of Christians, maybe full-blown persecution... that'll seperate the wheat from the tares in a hurry!
A large amount of the persecution isn't against truth, but against false teaching.
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