View Full Version : Trinity -game-
stone
27th February 2008, 02:27 PM
Post scripure that supports the father, son and holy spirit.
Who's 1st?
Yuanshen
27th February 2008, 04:06 PM
I guess this will prove who are the real Trinitarians, because some are lying here. They say they are Trinitarians, but are just lying like the devil.
But I am not lying. To prove that there are three persons in the Godhead, just simply prove them.
Here is proof that the Spirit is a real person that talks and guides. He is not an impersonal force, but a real person:
John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
An impersonal force does not talk. An "it" cannot tell you of things to come. Those that call the Spirit an "it" are blasphemers guilty of the crime of blaspheme. What a rude thing to say about God's Spirit, to say He is an "it."
Now it is not hard to prove the Father is a person. His words and voice are all throughout the Bible. But I show this one for those who do not believe:
Peter2 1:16
We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.
Now who here is to say God is lying about his own child? To those that lie, be very afraid. You only have fire and crying to look forward to, for Jesus was a fire and brimstone preacher and he gave you all many warnings about that place. To those that get angry about a hell place of fire, shame on you for getting upset and what Jesus says about it. You cannot make it go away.
Now I prove Jesus is a real person too:
John 17
After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do. 5And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
So you see Jesus speaking of the Spirit as a person, the Father as a person, and you have seen the Father speak to his Son. Anyone who denies the Trinity is a liar and antiChrist. Devil wants to take people away from grace and truth. Do not listen to his lies. Who will you believe, the Bible or some ancient documents talking about some early Christian controveries?
yuan
Gwenyfur
27th February 2008, 04:44 PM
Genesis 1:26
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Even in the beginning He was announcing His triune nature :bow:
christinepro
27th February 2008, 05:21 PM
John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood[a (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%201&version=31#fen-NIV-26040a)] it.
Isaiah 9:6
[/URL] 6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given;
and the government shall be upon [URL="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Isaiah+9%3A6#f1"][1] (http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Isaiah+8) his shoulder,
and his name shall be called [2] (http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Isaiah+9%3A6#f2)
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
John 14:
Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 (http://bible.cc/john/14-9.htm) Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 (http://bible.cc/john/14-10.htm) “Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. 11 (http://bible.cc/john/14-11.htm) “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. 12 (http://bible.cc/john/14-12.htm) “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. 13 (http://bible.cc/john/14-13.htm) “Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 (http://bible.cc/john/14-14.htm) “If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
15 (http://bible.cc/john/14-15.htm) “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
Tonks
27th February 2008, 06:38 PM
Christ's baptism in the Jordan is always a good place to start.
Lulav
27th February 2008, 06:40 PM
John 1:1
visionary
27th February 2008, 11:01 PM
Yeshua ‘called God his own Father, making himself equal with God’ (Jn. 5:18). and said He would be sending His Holy Spirit to comfort us.
Yuanshen
28th February 2008, 08:42 PM
Yeshua ‘called God his own Father, making himself equal with God’ (Jn. 5:18). and said He would be sending His Holy Spirit to comfort us.
You believe in Trinity? I read you said that real Jews do not believe in Trinity.
yuan
Copyright ©2000-2008, ChristianForums.com