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[cactusj]

How do yall feel about the "Charismatic" worship, tongues, slain in spirit, etc. Is this becoming more prevalent in the Methodist and Nazarene Churches? Thanks

[overnight]

How do yall feel about the "Charismatic" worship, tongues, slain in spirit, etc. Is this becoming more prevalent in the Methodist and Nazarene Churches? ThanksI'm going to say something that might get me in trouble. But "charismatic worship" is alot of trouble. Often people who don't speak in toungues feel obligated or that they are not saved because they speak in toungues so it causes rifts in congregations. How do you saparate what is actually a spirit move other than a human trying to "look good". I was involved with one of these orginizations and they can be trouble let me tell you. People often go to them because it makes them "feel good". Well let me tell you being a christian and serving the Lord is not always a bed of roses. As far as Methodists I know a few who beilieve in tounges and have the gift. But as far a service mostly I THINK the UMC beilieves that it is not to be used in corporate worship.
Don't even get me started on the Nazarene church. DId you know it was once called the Pentacostal NAzarene CHurch but changed its name because they did not want to be asssociated with tounges. For as long as I have know the Naz church has taken a stronger stand againsts speaking in tounges. But one of my Naz brothers could probably tell you the "Official" stand.
Let me conclude by saying that the Holy Spirit moves in mystierious ways. Gifts are given to all peoples. If we quit focusing on gifts that edify ourselves and focus on what we can do for others then we are being true Christians.

[cactusj]

Thanks for your reply. I agree completely. Some have invaded our small congregation and it is causing big problems. Worship, to me is about God/Christ, not self.

[HeatherJay]

Our church's stand is that God speaks to each us individually. He calls us to respond in many different ways...sometimes we're simply 'called' to the altar to kneel and pray, sometimes we're 'called' to clap during a worship song, sometimes we're 'called' to give a testimony, back in the old days people would 'run the aisles' because they'd been 'called' to do so. The important thing is that we obey that call when we get it.

Our church does not speak in tongues and stuff, but we don't deny that God certain has the power to call others to respond in that way.

[bigsierra]

http://www.abeaconofhope.org/whoweare/nazarene.html
We are not Charismatics -- No, we do not "speak in tongues" in our services -- but like the Charismatics we believe in the gifts of the Spirit, who gives people the power to live a Christlike life and to make a real difference in their world.

[wvmtnkid]

My church did a study on the spiritual gifts not that long ago. My understanding is that the Spirit still gives gifts today, including speaking in tongues. Speaking in tongues is a more personal gift in that it is used in talking and praying to God in the "tongue" of the Spirit. If it is given to a person in a corporate setting, it is to be used to unify and build up the church, not to build up the person given the gift. Also if it is given in a corporate setting, the gift to interpret will also be given to someone to interpret what was spoken in tongues.

I was going to say my church isn't a tongue speaking church, but I guess it would be more appropriate to say, the gift has not been given to a person in the church during a service.

We also learned that the churches that become the Pentecost church broke off from the Methodist Church over the disagreement of speaking in tongues and healing.

I never really have understood slain in the spirit. I am not disagreeing with it, I just don't understand what is happening when someone is "slain".

[myfullness]

Hello, :clap: first time here and thought I would join in... fwiw look up speaking in tongues in your cyclopedic index or whatever you have to reference words and answer the questions here:In how many books of the bible is speaking in tongues mentioned? What church was it spoken in? What is recorded there as being spoken in tongues? Paul didn't forbid speaking in tongues he said but rather prophesy(1st Cor. 14:1-4) ...In your search go to the United Methodist Church website and click on MY SPIRITUAL JOURNEY...you will find 20 gifts mentioned...interestingly, the definition for TONGUES is 2...communication and understanding and deals with foreign languages, signing for the deaf and any method of communicating with others including those gifted with speaking an understanding foreign languages... All with the express purpose of edifying the church...Peace and God bless

[bigsierra]

Hello myfullness :wave:

Welcome to CF (Christian Forums)

[ceedaisy]

In my Church we haven't had speaking of tongues. And I do not know what Slain in the spirit means. We have felt the spirit among us, during certain times. As myfullness has said, speaking in tongues is like speaking to a huge crowd and everyone hears it in their own language. BUT is also something you do in prayer to God. And Paul said in Corinthians that he would rather you Prophesie than speak in tongues since it scared non believers. That speaking in tongues should be done quietly during Church and was between you and God. I myself have always wondered if those who do it, are doing it for public show. No offense to any who has this ability, but we must agree that there are those who do it to "look" spiritual.